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Re: Russia, You Can't Eat Your Cake & Have It by olas24u(f): 1:23am On May 18, 2022 |
oz4real83: This was not a war and the intentions was not to win a war. It focused more on the economy of Europe,get that, but you can try the real war with Russia and see result. The Nato planners can never think like you. 1 Like |
Re: Russia, You Can't Eat Your Cake & Have It by Merisbankie(m): 1:24am On May 18, 2022 |
gambojimeta:with your screenshot how many officers has Ukraine loses go to Lord of war on telegram and see for yourself bro |
Re: Russia, You Can't Eat Your Cake & Have It by olas24u(f): 1:27am On May 18, 2022 |
Bentizil: Georgia is an American allie, its a country that is less than 10million and they thought America will support them because they buy and have americsn weapons. Russia does not attack countries unless threatened or that country is being used as a lunch pad to get to it.e.g all the countries listed. Crimea use to be Russia and was a gift to Ukraine. 1 Like |
Re: Russia, You Can't Eat Your Cake & Have It by gambojimeta: 1:30am On May 18, 2022 |
Merisbankie:No be only lord of war, na lord of heaven you go see. . Why don't you tell us after counting on lord of war |
Re: Russia, You Can't Eat Your Cake & Have It by Merisbankie(m): 1:34am On May 18, 2022 |
gambojimeta:y are you pained |
Re: Russia, You Can't Eat Your Cake & Have It by gambojimeta: 1:35am On May 18, 2022 |
Merisbankie: 1 Share
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Re: Russia, You Can't Eat Your Cake & Have It by Merisbankie(m): 1:37am On May 18, 2022 |
[quote author=gambojimeta post=112934088][/quote]
lol
all defense is weak and scared like NATO |
Re: Russia, You Can't Eat Your Cake & Have It by gambojimeta: 1:41am On May 18, 2022 |
Merisbankie:Whatever helps you sleep at night |
Re: Russia, You Can't Eat Your Cake & Have It by olas24u(f): 1:51am On May 18, 2022 |
KillerCrocodile: Putin is a very patriotic citizen of Russia, he built the country to what you now know today as Russia. They cannot afford to be another yugoslavia,now splited into pieaces. Yugoslavia use to be a powerful country in time past, when you break countries to pieces, they become weak, Croatia, Montenegro, Serbia, Slovenia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, and Macedonia. 2 Likes |
Re: Russia, You Can't Eat Your Cake & Have It by VOICEofORIENTAL: 1:14pm On May 18, 2022 |
olas24u:The Best patriotic men I have met & know are those who built their country very strong & still maintained a strong cordial relationship with its neighbors. A patriot is someone who believes in "LIVE & LET'S LIVE! A true patriot cannot threaten his/her INDEPENDENT neighbor's if any decides to join an association. |
Re: Russia, You Can't Eat Your Cake & Have It by olas24u(f): 1:15pm On May 18, 2022 |
VOICEofORIENTAL: You are reversing it ,Nato is moving near its borders and using Russian neighbours as bait . |
Re: Russia, You Can't Eat Your Cake & Have It by olas24u(f): 1:17pm On May 18, 2022 |
VOICEofORIENTAL: china wants to trade and be peaceful ,but its being surrounded ,in india in Nepal ,Taiwan ,japan and the rest ,to check mate them |
Re: Russia, You Can't Eat Your Cake & Have It by VOICEofORIENTAL: 1:22pm On May 18, 2022 |
Merisbankie:The US does not invade members of Nato. This is an area Russia & Putin failed woefully |
Re: Russia, You Can't Eat Your Cake & Have It by VOICEofORIENTAL: 1:26pm On May 18, 2022 |
olas24u:Do you think that Russia can defeat Nato,in a real war? |
Re: Russia, You Can't Eat Your Cake & Have It by VOICEofORIENTAL: 1:30pm On May 18, 2022 |
olas24u:How did Georgia threatened Russia in 2008? Don't forget that Georgia tilted towards the west after Russia annexed Abkhazia & South Ossetia. |
Re: Russia, You Can't Eat Your Cake & Have It by olas24u(f): 1:34pm On May 18, 2022 |
VOICEofORIENTAL: There will be no winners ,NATO does not have hypersonics and its defence systems yet. Even the s400 defence system they dont have the equivalent ,they are just scamming ukraine and smiling to the bank |
Re: Russia, You Can't Eat Your Cake & Have It by olas24u(f): 1:35pm On May 18, 2022 |
VOICEofORIENTAL: it wanted to welcome an american base on its soil ,its a threat to its neigbours and Russia |
Re: Russia, You Can't Eat Your Cake & Have It by KillerCrocodile: 1:47pm On May 18, 2022 |
olas24u: And who is trying to break up Russia ? Let me guess your answer... I know you will say The United States and NATO member countries. That would not happen.. NATO has not planned or would plan to Invade Russia militarily and break up the country. NATO knows the disastrous outcome of such a move. Even North Korea with few Nuclear Weapons has not been invaded and broken up. Russia is among the P5 of the UN Security Council and there exists a treaty among the P5 members never to resort to Nuclear War because there is no winners in a Nuclear War. Joe Biden (A seasoned Politician) understand this fact, that is why when my Comedian President was calling on NATO to declare a No fly Zone and close the Ukrainian airspace, Biden Rejected it outrightly. NATO does not want a broader War. Nato does not want an Escalation of the War because of the reasons stated above. Purin's Russia on the other hand understands this too... During his victory day speech, Putin said and I quote him verbatim : "We must do everything possible to avoid the horrors of a global war" That is why he did not declare an all out war in Ukraine on victory day. That is why so far, Putin's Russia has not targeted Poland, where most of the weapons are flowing into Ukraine. What we commentators in Nairaland fail to mention often is the mutual respect between the East and the West. Between Russia and NATO. Nobody can attack the other and remain safe. Nobody can attack the other and not pay a high price......... Hence the United Nations Treaty I alluded to above. Putin's victory day speech about NATO's plan to "Invade" his country is simply Hogwash and Balderdash. The Invasion he is afraid of is Idealogical invasion. Western values Invasion that would rout his system of government. If they allow Western values to creep into the system, Putin and his Cronies would loose Power. So Putin's Patriotism to Russia is questionable since he cannot allow his people to choose their way of life without censorship and suppression. Remember, Russia is the people not the vast expanse of land Putin is Patriotic to the Authoritarian style of leadership and I understand that. The whole world cannot be Democratic. If that is the Grand plan of the United States and NATO, then I am afraid that their plan is Dead on Arrival. The World would always be East versus West. Democracy versus Authoritarianism / Religious Extremism. |
Re: Russia, You Can't Eat Your Cake & Have It by olas24u(f): 1:53pm On May 18, 2022 |
KillerCrocodile: Do you know the meaning of these? Full-spectrum dominance also known as full-spectrum superiority, is a military entity's achievement of control over all dimensions of the battlespace, effectively possessing an overwhelming diversity of resources in such areas as terrestrial, aerial, maritime, subterranean, extraterrestrial, psychological, and bio- or cyber-technological warfare. Full spectrum dominance includes the physical battlespace; air, surface and sub-surface as well as the electromagnetic spectrum and information space. Control implies that freedom of opposition force assets to exploit the battlespace is wholly constrained. |
Re: Russia, You Can't Eat Your Cake & Have It by VOICEofORIENTAL: 1:53pm On May 18, 2022 |
olas24u:Nato is just a union/organization/association formed in 1945, for any country which desired to be part of her, irrespective of your region or continent. Russia formed her own Warsaw pact in 1955.. however after the collapse of the Soviet Union, members of the Warsaw pact WILLINGLY joined Nato. Please name one country that Nato FORCED OR DRAGGED into Nato? Did Nato force Sweden & Finland to join them? David Mark, former Senate president of Nigeria, is a staunch member of PDP whereas his daughter is a member of APC. Russia & Putin does not have this kind of flexibility & tolerance. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Russia, You Can't Eat Your Cake & Have It by olas24u(f): 1:56pm On May 18, 2022 |
VOICEofORIENTAL:you are funny and am not in the mood for your type .go and read up and stop assumption .i dont know when nato was created for all countries to join.am hearing it for the first time. |
Re: Russia, You Can't Eat Your Cake & Have It by VOICEofORIENTAL: 2:08pm On May 18, 2022 |
olas24u:There must be a winner. So you think that Nato don't have it equivalent..& you also think that ONLY hypersonics would win a war between Russia & over 25 member countries of Nato.? |
Re: Russia, You Can't Eat Your Cake & Have It by olas24u(f): 2:11pm On May 18, 2022 |
VOICEofORIENTAL: In a nuclear war ,there are no winners 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Russia, You Can't Eat Your Cake & Have It by olas24u(f): 2:15pm On May 18, 2022 |
VOICEofORIENTAL: They dont ,Russia is far ahead in hypersonics ,it takes time to catch up |
Re: Russia, You Can't Eat Your Cake & Have It by VOICEofORIENTAL: 2:35pm On May 18, 2022 |
olas24u:Hungry, Poland, Romania, Albania, Czechoslovakia, East Germany, Bulgaria were all members of Russia's Warsaw pact. In 1989, after the collapse of the Berlin Wall, East Germany left the Russia's Warsaw pact & joined her brother West Germany who was already a member of Nato to become a united Germany. After the collapse of the Soviet Union,in 1990, Poland, Romania, Albania, Hungary, Czechoslovakia WILLINGLY joined Nato. Every right thinking person wants to be part of a strong military alliance. In Nigeria today,we have more than 5 political parties but APC & PDP dominates the political space. APC or PDP cannot force or drag any person to join them. If the whole world decides to join Nato what would Russia do? nothing. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Russia, You Can't Eat Your Cake & Have It by VOICEofORIENTAL: 2:51pm On May 18, 2022 |
olas24u:That's perception not reality. How many nuclear war head does Russia have?... Germany, France, Japan, UK, US,Italy, Canada, Australia have there own version of nuclear weapons. These countries are not even up to 1/3 of Nato members. Just take a look at those countries & judge whether Russia can face them. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Russia, You Can't Eat Your Cake & Have It by VOICEofORIENTAL: 2:54pm On May 18, 2022 |
olas24u:How many hypersonics do you think Russia would use to defeat 30 countries? |
Re: Russia, You Can't Eat Your Cake & Have It by KillerCrocodile: 2:58pm On May 18, 2022 |
olas24u: Military Strategist I salute you. Slava Ukraini..... Glory to the Heroes 1 Like |
Re: Russia, You Can't Eat Your Cake & Have It by olas24u(f): 3:05pm On May 18, 2022 |
VOICEofORIENTAL: I was making a point on capabilities, and Russian military instructors are top notch with low budget, they donated 40 billion dollars to Ukraine, without any result and Russia so far as spent maximum 4b.arebyou not tired of the Bretton wood system. Are you sure you are Nigerian. I am tired of fighting gravity every day. We need a new system. 1 Like |
Re: Russia, You Can't Eat Your Cake & Have It by olas24u(f): 3:06pm On May 18, 2022 |
VOICEofORIENTAL:You must have been in support of the bombing of Libya just because of an internal crisis, with all you have stated, without united nations mandate. 1 Like |
Re: Russia, You Can't Eat Your Cake & Have It by Merisbankie(m): 1:04am On May 19, 2022 |
VOICEofORIENTAL:what are you saying is Ukraine nato member |
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