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Personal Lessons Learnt From Russia -ukraine War by MT: 4:28pm On May 16, 2022
1. Don't overplay your hands - Before the war, Russia was in a position of advantage. The West over exaggerated Russia military and they were literarily begging Putin to come to the table for negotiation. If Russia had agreed, the West would have conceded a lot to Russia and Russia perceived fearsome military respect would have still been preserved.

2. Everybody has a plan till punched in the face - This Mike Tyson quote could not be more relevant. Putin felt he could overrun Ukraine but not only has the Ukrainians stood up to him, Putin's Russia has lost the global respect. Now, Ukrainian army are ready to slug it out with the Russians, having known that they are not as great as they thought.

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Re: Personal Lessons Learnt From Russia -ukraine War by MT: 4:28pm On May 16, 2022
3. Calculate, calculate but don't miscalculate - Putin grossly miscalculated. He didn't see the Western nations giving such a massive support to Ukraine. He didn't see the sanctions from Hell coming from a united EU and US. Now, Putin has lost almost everything.

4. It takes a few moment for situation to change - Russia is now in a position iof weakness, exactly the spot where the west wants her to be. Russia has lost all leverages he once had. Everything is going south for her.

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Re: Personal Lessons Learnt From Russia -ukraine War by MT: 4:29pm On May 16, 2022
5. What you fear most can happen - Having depleted her war chest, military arsenal, Putin can only watch as Finland and Sweden join NATO. Finland share the longest border with Russia, and both Finland and Sweden have sophisticated military compared to Ukraine. Russia is so weakened and grossly disadvantaged now.

6. Always have a strategy - While Finland and Sweden just expressed their intention, anything can happen during the transition period. UK signed a security pact with both country to defend them in case of attack from Russia during the transition. Some will say why UK and not US? That's a strategy. If Russia attacks either Finland or Sweden, UK will step in. If Russia attacks UK, Russia will have NATO to deal with. It's like a game of chess, Russia is cornered.

7. You can only know how war will start but not how it will end - No matter how strong you are, always take caution. The opposition you undermine might have everything figured out than you. Always try to negotiate rather than go in all muscles like Russia. Funny enough, Russia seized assets and oligarchs seized assets will be used to rebuild Ukraine. What a waste for Russia

Source: Me�

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Re: Personal Lessons Learnt From Russia -ukraine War by pharmagba: 4:48pm On May 16, 2022
Excellent!
Captured succinctly

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Re: Personal Lessons Learnt From Russia -ukraine War by AldrichAmes: 4:52pm On May 16, 2022
cheesy

Dumb take based on propaganda, lol.

This should be directed to the US and its adventure in Afghanistan and Vietnam. 20yrs, $3trillion and ugly defeat.

Donbass has almost collapsed and Ukraine should be landlocked by the end of this year. Putin has never lost a war.

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Re: Personal Lessons Learnt From Russia -ukraine War by Nobody: 4:53pm On May 16, 2022
Your head dey dere.
Re: Personal Lessons Learnt From Russia -ukraine War by Neddstark: 5:46pm On May 16, 2022
100% crap.
Even in the internet age, grown ass human beings choose to be brainwashed. Sad

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Re: Personal Lessons Learnt From Russia -ukraine War by MT: 5:55pm On May 16, 2022
Neddstark:
100% crap.
Even in the internet age, grown ass human beings choose to be brainwashed. Sad

Wake up and smell the coffee

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Re: Personal Lessons Learnt From Russia -ukraine War by Neddstark: 6:04pm On May 16, 2022
MT:


Wake up and smell the coffee

I am smelling it all. With the information I am privy to, all you're saying is trash.
The war is going well as planned for the bolsheviks. West propaganda wants you to think the Russians are losing. Man, that army is fúvking bad. Every night they shell the UAF. The minor battles are handled by the DPR troops. The major ones by the Russian army. This war is like the US war in Iraq. To test the country's war strengrh.
Praying there is no war between Nato and Russia. There will be no winners.
Go on Twitter, follow "Russians with Attitude" and "AZmilitary1" and see the reality on ground. You dont have to if you're biased though. I follow both pro-Ukrainian and pro-Russian twitter accounts and can tell the difference.

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Re: Personal Lessons Learnt From Russia -ukraine War by lordm(m): 6:31pm On May 16, 2022
100% correct. Russia is a paper tiger

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Re: Personal Lessons Learnt From Russia -ukraine War by MT: 6:39pm On May 16, 2022
Neddstark:


I am smelling it all. With the information I am privy to, all you're saying is trash.
The war is going well as planned for the bolsheviks. West propaganda wants you to think the Russians are losing. Man, that army is fúvking bad. Every night they shell the UAF. The minor battles are handled by the DPR troops. The major ones by the Russian army. This war is like the US war in Iraq. To test the country's war strengrh.
Praying there is no war between Nato and Russia. There will be no winners.
Go on Twitter, follow "Russians with Attitude" and "AZmilitary1" and see the reality on ground. You dont have to if you're biased though. I follow both pro-Ukrainian and pro-Russian twitter accounts and can tell the difference.

Everything you read must be genuine, every opposition to what you wrote must be a propaganda. Typical!

Well, to you, it's a western propaganda that Finland and Sweden have declared to join NATO, and another propaganda that Russia has not run over Ukraine. In your own version of what you are "privy" to (on Twitter...laughs) , Russia must have destabilised Zelensky government in Kyiv.

Again, wake up and smell the coffee.

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Re: Personal Lessons Learnt From Russia -ukraine War by tonididdy(m): 6:53pm On May 16, 2022
I hate to admit what you've written out is the bitter truth


But



...all of this can be corrected with a few nukes from Moscow grin

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Re: Personal Lessons Learnt From Russia -ukraine War by MT: 7:30pm On May 16, 2022
Neddstark:


I am smelling it all. With the information I am privy to, all you're saying is trash.
The war is going well as planned for the bolsheviks. West propaganda wants you to think the Russians are losing. Man, that army is fúvking bad. Every night they shell the UAF. The minor battles are handled by the DPR troops. The major ones by the Russian army. This war is like the US war in Iraq. To test the country's war strengrh.
Praying there is no war between Nato and Russia. There will be no winners.
Go on Twitter, follow "Russians with Attitude" and "AZmilitary1" and see the reality on ground. You dont have to if you're biased though. I follow both pro-Ukrainian and pro-Russian twitter accounts and can tell the difference.

Mr Analyst, you said everything written here was a western propaganda. Will you read what Al Jazeera wrote about it ?. Are they propaganda too ?. The article starts like this:
"Kyiv, Ukraine – Russian President Vladimir Putin is waking up to a security disaster."

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/5/16/moscows-full-defeat-as-finland-sweden-move-to-join-nato

Dey there let pants dey wear you...lol

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Re: Personal Lessons Learnt From Russia -ukraine War by owolabi5: 7:46pm On May 16, 2022
Nice One




CAR PAPERS
Re: Personal Lessons Learnt From Russia -ukraine War by PoliteActivist: 7:48pm On May 16, 2022
MT:
5. What you fear most can happen - Having depleted her war chest, military arsenal, Putin can only watch as Finland and Sweden join NATO. Finland share the longest border with Russia, and both Finland and Sweden have sophisticated military compared to Ukraine. Russia is so weakened and grossly disadvantaged now.

6. Always have a strategy - While Finland and Sweden just expressed their intention, anything can happen during the transition period. UK signed a security pact with both country to defend them in case of attack from Russia during the transition. Some will say why UK and not US? That's a strategy. If Russia attacks either Finland or Sweden, UK will step in. If Russia attacks UK, Russia will have NATO to deal with. It's like a game of chess, Russia is cornered.

7. You can only know how war will start but not how it will end - No matter how strong you are, always take caution. The opposition you undermine might have everything figured out than you. Always try to negotiate rather than go in all muscles like Russia. Funny enough, Russia seized assets and oligarchs seized assets will be used to rebuild Ukraine. What a waste for Russia

Source: Me�

Well done.
But for me the most important lesson is:
8. As a feared person, the fear of what you may do is always more potent than you actually doing it.
Just imagine how sky-high Russian prestige would be if Putin had paused things at that point everybody was kissing his ass not to invade. If he had allowed himself to be "persuaded" to delay things and just kept amassing troops and equipment at the border!

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Re: Personal Lessons Learnt From Russia -ukraine War by texazzpete(m): 8:03pm On May 16, 2022
AldrichAmes:
cheesy

Dumb take based on propaganda, lol.

Which propaganda? you don’t have eyes to see maps? you didn’t see the Russian BTG slaughtered at the river crossing last week?



AldrichAmes:


This should be directed to the US and its adventure in Afghanistan and Vietnam. 20yrs, $3trillion and ugly defeat.

And yet the Russian deaths in three month are more than 3x the American deaths in 21 years of occupying Afghanistan. Or nearly half as much as the entire US losses in Vietnam.

And the Ukrainian counter-offensive never start


AldrichAmes:
cheesy

Donbass has almost collapsed and Ukraine should be landlocked by the end of this year. Putin has never lost a war.

Putin has been finding small nations like Chechnya, Georgia and rag tag rebels in Syria.

He’s tried to swallow a country of 45 million people with a determined, motivated populace. And he’s getting his ass handed to him.

See how you’ve lost shame, talking about Donbas. As if the Russian invasion didn’t start with huge Columns heading to Kyiv. How come you aren’t mentioning their loss? Or the fact that they’ve been beaten away from Kharkiv? Or they’ve had to cancel plans for an amphibious assault on Odessa after sense told them it was a suicidal plan ?

You’ll see sha grin

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Re: Personal Lessons Learnt From Russia -ukraine War by texazzpete(m): 8:04pm On May 16, 2022
PoliteActivist:


Well done.
But for me the most important lesson is:
8. As a feared person, the fear of what you may do is always more potent than you actually doing it.
Just imagine how sky-high Russian prestige would be if Putin had paused things at that point everybody was kissing his ass not to invade. If he had allowed himself to be "persuaded" to delay things and just kept amassing troops and equipment at the border!

Wise point indeed!

Putin could have gotten a lot of concessions if he didn’t invade. Now look at him.

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Re: Personal Lessons Learnt From Russia -ukraine War by AldrichAmes: 8:18pm On May 16, 2022
texazzpete:


Which propaganda? you don’t have eyes to see maps? you didn’t see the Russian BTG slaughtered at the river crossing last week?





And yet the Russian deaths in three month are more than 3x the American deaths in 21 years of occupying Afghanistan. Or nearly half as much as the entire US losses in Vietnam.

And the Ukrainian counter-offensive never start




Putin has been finding small nations like Chechnya, Georgia and rag tag rebels in Syria.

He’s tried to swallow a country of 45 million people with a determined, motivated populace. And he’s getting his ass handed to him.

See how you’ve lost shame, talking about Donbas. As if the Russian invasion didn’t start with huge Columns heading to Kyiv. How come you aren’t mentioning their loss? Or the fact that they’ve been beaten away from Kharkiv? Or they’ve had to cancel plans for an amphibious assault on Odessa after sense told them it was a suicidal plan ?

You’ll see sha grin

Patience - by next month things will unfold.

We shall see. But as a betting man and a military vet - I’m betting on Donbass defences to collapse in 2-3wks.

Let’s talk about this in June.
Re: Personal Lessons Learnt From Russia -ukraine War by chopnaira: 8:21pm On May 16, 2022
Brilliant submission. Respect cool
Re: Personal Lessons Learnt From Russia -ukraine War by chopnaira: 8:21pm On May 16, 2022
I remember the French president begging him and trying hard to convince him to take the diplomatic route. But just like God hardened the heart of Pharaoh, Putin's heart was hardened too.

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Re: Personal Lessons Learnt From Russia -ukraine War by PoliteActivist: 9:45pm On May 16, 2022
texazzpete:


Wise point indeed!

Putin could have gotten a lot of concessions if he didn’t invade. Now look at him.

Even I knew right away Russia made a big mistake by atually invading Ukraine. It is like fighting someone everybody already thinks you'd easily beat - unless the person strikes you first.

Meanwhile nothing would have stopped Putin from extreme saber-rattling right at the border - demonstrating Russia's perceived awesome power, without actually deploying them!
Re: Personal Lessons Learnt From Russia -ukraine War by texazzpete(m): 6:11am On May 17, 2022
AldrichAmes:


Patience - by next month things will unfold.

We shall see. But as a betting man and a military vet - I’m betting on Donbass defences to collapse in 2-3wks.

Let’s talk about this in June.

Even the Russian imperialist Strelkov is predicting the failure of the russian offensive.

Next 2 -3 weeks fits quite nicely in the timeline for Ukraine’s major counter offensive. Better be prepared for more Russian losses.
Re: Personal Lessons Learnt From Russia -ukraine War by Nobody: 7:31am On May 17, 2022
Well captured in your writeup,Bravo. Russia Military is now a joke, Thanks to Putin.
Re: Personal Lessons Learnt From Russia -ukraine War by Nobody: 7:39am On May 17, 2022
AldrichAmes:


Patience - by next month things will unfold.

We shall see. But as a betting man and a military vet - I’m betting on Donbass defences to collapse in 2-3wks.

Let’s talk about this in June.

You talk too much craps, face the reality, Russia ass are getting kicked.

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