NigerianSage:


I don't remember saying they can not or are not allowed to and the last time I checked, it is Russia going berserk and fuming because other countries are joining their own preferred alliance and even foolishly going to war because of self-induced paranoia about other countries joining NATO.

Excuzeme:




Is America a member of the European Union, what is its Business in a War between Russia and Ukraine?
- Why is America spending $15Billion, plus another $40Billion in weapons to assist Ukraine?
- Why is America providing accurate GPS Location Data of Russian Assets (Weapons, Tanks, even Senior Officers) to Ukrain, who then use it in targeting Russian Assets?
- Why is the UK living next door to Ukraine and if not, why is it trying to go bankrupt in supplying weapons and Mercenaries to Ukraine?
- What about Germany who had to change its laws, so it can supply weapons to Ukraine?
- Did Russia attack Poland? If not, why did Poland send all its 27 Pieces of MiG Fighter Jets to NATO European headquarters in Germany, for them to be sneaked into Ukraine, to aid Ukraine in the fight?

What is the common denominator in all these?
Answer: America is the head of NATO, UK is ranked next, then Germany and so many other members like Poland that are arming Ukraine and sanctioning Russia and stealing Russian Wealth.

So, it is a No-Brainer to see that this War, though between Russia and Ukraine on the surface, it is actually a War between Russia and NATO, judging from the above analysis.

So, for those abusing Russia that "small Ukraine" has given it a lot of difficulty, l ask them to be honest with themselves.
Its like the Mob that killed that Lady Deborah Samuel, in Sokoto!
One Person can only do as much, when confronted with [color=#990000]the strongest Power in the World and about 35 other mid-Power nations like Germany, UK, Italy, France, Japan, Canada, etc.[/color]

Despite all that, Russia is still standing firm on its objectives:
- Neutralizing the Neo-Nazis in Ukraine (achieved today, with the final SURRENDER and CAPTURE of the Azorv Battalion, in the Arzov Steel Plant in Mariupol)
- Preventing Ukraine from developing Nuclear and Biological Weapons to be used against Russia, with American Assistance( Achieved the the seizure and destruction of Ukrainian Weapons Labs and exposing their nefarious work at the United Nations, for the whole world).
- Ensuring that the Donbas Region (Luhansk and Gdansk) is liberated, independent and rid of all the Neo-Nazis (In Progress at about 70% completion)
- Ensure that Ukraine remains "Neutral and does not join NATO" (as l am writing this, l am not aware that Ukraine is a NATO member or has even "applied" to be so )
- Ensure that it will survive the sanctions imposed on it by the "Gang of NATO Mobsters" (though it has suffered a lot, due to the theft of its Foreign Reserves and other assets, by America, UK and European Countries, the ongoing Russo-phobia, etc, as of today, the Russian Ruble's value is FIVE TIMES its value before the Invasion, Enemy European countries are still dependent on Russian Energy, their Citizens are almost revolting due to the high price of Fuel/Gas and unprecedented Inflation and funnily enough, they are all paying for their Oil and gas in Rubles, as ordered by Putin.

Like they say, "Count your Blessings, One by One and it will surprise you what the Lord has done".

We may not like him, we may not like his style, we may be afraid of him (Russia), we may even be jealous of him(Russia), despite all that, one thing we cannot deny is that he has taken on Mighty-Mob NATO and still standing!
It stakes strength and intelligence to survive such NATO, mob onslaught.

And please, while l dont mind you responding, kindly do it civilly, maturely and without insults, abuse and name-calling, as you will notice l did not insult you or anyone in my own response.
It just does not show decency to be insulting people we dont know, not to mention that it distorts the discusiion.

NigerianSage:




1. Putin sent more fighters, more tanks, more military hardware and support infrastructure to Ukraine than the West sent to Ukraine.

2, Russia has over 3,000 aircraft, Ukraine has nothing and the west did not send any.

3. Russia has 2,500 cruise missiles, Ukraine has nothing and the West did not send any.

4. Russia has 1,500 combat helicopters, Ukrain has none and the West did not send any.

5. Russia has 6,000 artillery pieces. Ukraine has 1,800.

6. Russia has 36,000 armored vehicles, and Ukrain has 7,000

The list goes on..

Now, when people like you and other Putin fans go on and on about the West and 30 countries fighting Russia, you are basically scoring your own goal because regardless of the weapons the West sent to Ukraine, Russia retains the advantage many times over from land, sea to air.

What killed Russia in Ukraine are MANPADS, basic shoulder-held weapons that decimated many Russian convoys, tanks, and supply lines.

You are not making any sense because what the West sent to Ukraine is minuscule to Russia's arsenal. Ukrainians are doing more with less, they are better militarily and strategically, and they are more disciplined, more focused, more determined, and exceptionally good at what they do.

You can take the horse to the stream, but you can not force the horse to drink, meaning even though the West sent weapons to Ukraine, Ukrainians did the fighting on their own.

Putin fans are always scoring their own goals and turning their own logic upside down, even to make Russia look bad.

It is not about

Excuzeme:


I would have robustly responded to your Post, because l do enjoy educative discussions but l wont because it appears that you cannot discuss with0ut INSULTING your co-debater.
Saying "I am not making Sense", is insulting.
I wont say so to you (as you can see in my lengthy Posts, No Insults) and l wont accept it from you or anyone, l would rather not engage anyone who insults others to get their point across.

Cheers.

Igbofam:


Shit isn't going to happen because we already cleaned the shit using the Russian flag

Amayabor1:


You can go and bomb them for commiting such mistakes!

lecowas:
Nice one. Putin bots think backwards. That is why their view of this invasion is skewed. Check most of them, they support Putin not because they think he did the right thing but because they hate U. S. A

Grandemperor:
It is well-nigh impossible for all or a group of African countries to plan to annihilate one African country. We have always resolved issues without conspiring to intimidate a belligerent party, even when a coup occurs. The conspiracy in the Northern Hemisphere bespeaks of expansive truancy amongst barbarians unforeseen in our Hundredth World Countries -

Excuzeme:


You see what we have been saying all along?
Those of you that are against Russia and saying it has No REASON/JUSTIFICATION to attack Ukraine are now using the same reason to justify your taunting of Russia.

Russia has a legitimate Existential, Security Threat in Ukraine joining NATO, developing Nuclear and Biological Weapons, with American help and the proliferation of Neo-Nazis (some of which Russia just captured after they surrendered in Mariupol Steel Plant) within Ukraine

But l am sure Russia will defend itself if attacked, every problem has a solution. it is those in Europe l pity

Russia is repositioning its Nuclear Weapons to Finland Border, as a response to their request to join NATO.
Question is: Is it worth it? Eventually, can NATO Guarantee their Safety? (it may be able defend their destruction, as it is doing in Ukraine)

Excuzeme:


Like you, l am certain that No Western World Country wants to end up like Ukraine is, RIGHT NOW.
Nuclear Weapons is enough deterrence that will make any nation think twice before joining fight directly., when it is not under attack.

Between 2014 and 2022, just before the Russia invasion, America has assured Ukraine of defending it, it if was attacked.
They worked together, to confront Russia in a future war, trained their army, and assured them of NATO membership, when they apply.
Ukrainian President before Zelensky even signed their NATO ascension into Ukraine's constitution.

Ukraine was so certain that if Russia ever attacked it, America will "send Boots on the Ground" to defend it, hence we all saw the way Zelensky was insulting America and other NATO members, including those in the EU, for doing a U-turn, when the war started and only sending Weapons.

The answer an American congress man gave was that "Russia did not attack America and that America cannot puts American lives at risk, when it is not attacked". Finito!

Now, even Israel, as small as it is (size and military strength) has defied the whole World, defined hundreds of UN Resolutions passed, concerning Palestinian Sovereignty, simply because it is a NUCLEAR POWER (Go and Read the Book: "The Samson Option", by an Israeli Author, cant remember his name right now).

Once you have Nuclear Bomb, you have entered another league, that is why North Korea is still standing today and America has not attacked it!
It is a Mutual Assured Destruction (MAD) for the Attacker and the Person being Attacked.
Both will go down (I am not talking about small tactical Nuclear weapons, l am talking about the Real Deal.

Now, do we really think that America, Germany, France, UK, Canada, Italy, is ready to DIRECTLY attack Russia (lets say it attacked Poland or Finland or Sweden, its neighbors) and risk a Mutual Assured Destruction War where they all use Nuclear Weapons?
Do you think these countries are ready to lay waste (and destroy Russia too, in the process), just because of any of these Countries?

They may not say so openly or say so now but when the Chips are down, Capitalist Countries love themselves and their freedom too much, to risk it for a third Country, Article 5 of NATO or not.

This is the "lesson" Ukraine just learned..... in the hard way. You are on your own.
Joining NATO does not Guaranty ANYTHING, if your foe is a Nuclear Power like Russia.
That is WHY President Putin is warning Sweden and Finland to "Think Properly" on the Step they are taking as it will further put them in more danger, because after joining, they have automatically declared themselves as "enemy countries", which they are not, right now and Russia has not attacked them since it was formed.


Imagine for a second, if the country that attacked Ukraine (Russia), does not have a Nuclear Weapons, you think American boots wont have rolled it with some "Shock and Awe" as we had in Iraq, (when it invaded Kuwait who is also not a NATO member), Syria, Libya, Afghanistan, Yemen, etc.
America's Military just moved into Somalia again, TODAY.

NB: I am writing all these for Educational Purposes Only, l dont have a Horse in this fights.

Edit: I also notice that a lot of people here dont know the difference between a "Military Alliance", with Article 5, as in NATO ..
And an Economic Alliance like BRICS, E.E.C, African Union,, without any Military Objective.

Anyone can join the latter (BRICS) but if you want to join the former (NATO), you definitely have to put your Nuclear Power Neighbor's Security into consideration.

That would be a wise thing to do, to avoid stories like Ukraine.

Mccullum:


you've nailed it, as many of them doesn't understand that no nation in possession of nuclear weapons can be invaded.

Cubalabloo:
Whois now gonna bell the cat?

ken6488:
Same as the west

Sixfiguresmart:
Do you think the west can defeat Boko Haram without nukes?

YoungLionken:
Way to go Sweden! More tears for Putin and his sympathizers!!

If Kremlin thinks physical bombardment is the way forward, then they have to think again..

While Kremlin (just like the helpless dog) is busy using heavy fire weapons of war against Ukraine, the west is engaging them with the economic and psychological system of war. Of which, the latter will produce better results ..

Below is Putin after hearing this ...

NigerianSage:



Since Ukraine don render Russia and Putin weak and powerless in front of the world, you've abandoned Putin and moved to China to confront the West.

Cubalabloo:
Are you aware that Turkey is also against Finland joining NATO?

Excuzeme:


No need to use foul or insulting language on others, for their OPINION on this subject.
You are neither Russian nor Ukrainian, learn to just air your views maturely and have a healthy debate, it takes nothing away form you.

\
Cheers.

ken6488:
I can't tell Vietnam single handed defeated USA, China, France

NigerianSage:




So, if you didn't make sense, I can not say you are not making sense?

Yes, you did not make any sense and that's not an insult, I stated facts based on your post because I don't see the sense in going on and on about NATO and 30 countries fighting Russia when in fact NATO is not on the ground fighting for Ukraine and regardless of the mainly MANPADS and artillery pieces the West sent to Ukraine, Russia retained overwhelming advantage over Ukrain from land to sea and air.

It's quite easy to conclude that your post made no sense.

I know your type, when you are confronted with your own flawed posts and reasonings, you hide behind shouts and claims of insults and run away, all because you can not intelligently respond to or counter superior facts and arguments.

You are free to run away because you are not making sense, you never do anyway.

lecowas:


U’re right, what America is doing is not the best thing to do, but Russia has been bullying other neighboring countries instead of wooing them in a diplomatic way to form a strong alliance. Some of these countries have been neutral since the 2nd world war. Everyone is trying to develop what they have but Russia is trying to annex other people’s territory, hence the need for alliance with Russian enemy, the U.S

goodheart01:


There’s a difference between someone airing views and someone sounding stupid. That comment from that dude was a stupid and moronic one. Sometimes I wonder what they smoke before coming online to drop comments

Excuzeme:




It is WEAPONS, used by Trained Personnel, that Win Wars!

NATO has been giving their Weapons to Ukraine and training Ukrainian Soldiers to use it on Russia.

So,, it is NATO fighting a Proxy War with Russia.

pennywys:

Same

NATO who couldn't save Ukraine?

subsidywise18:


Well in 1978 Uganda invaded Tanzania and in the 1990s several African countries essentially fought in the DRC..and let's not forget Somalia's invasion of Eritrea in the 1970s

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