[quote author=Igbofam post=112937718]1. He warned that myths of the Ukrainian army being demoralised and in disarray are 'to put it mildly, false'

2. Said Ukraine may soon have 1m troops armed with western weapons who are ready to 'fight to the last man'

3.Russia is in 'full geopolitical isolation' with 'virtually the entire world against us', Khodaryonok added, saying it is a situation that the country 'needs to get out of'

Russian state media's trumped-up narrative of Putin's glorious war in Ukraine was last night shattered by a retired colonel who gave an unusually frank and damning assessment of the situation on the frontlines and world stage.


Mikhail Khodarenok, a former air defence commander and graduate of some of the Soviet Union's top military schools, used his platform on one of Russia's most-watched talk shows to warn that the war is going badly and is likely to get worse, and that nuclear sabre-rattling - far from being threatening - actually 'looks quite amusing'.

Ukraine, he said, will soon have mobilised more than a million soldiers who will be trained by the West and equipped with modern weapons, ready to fight and die to protect their homeland against Russia.

Batting aside repeated interruption from propagandist Olga Skabeyeva that the army will be mostly made of conscripts, Khodarenok insisted that how an army is recruited is irrelevant - what really matters is willingness to fight, and Ukraine 'intends to fight to the last man.'

Russia's position on the world stage is no better, he added, pointing out that 'we are in full geopolitical isolation, and that, however much we would hate to admit this, virtually the entire world is against us. And it's that situation that we need to get out of.'

Khodarenok's remarks, broadcast to millions of Russians who until now have been spoon-fed a narrative of their military's prowess and Ukraine's weakness, mark a stunning break with the state-sanctioned narrative and puts him at extreme odds with the Kremlin stooges stood to either side of him.

Speaking on Skabeyeva's evening talk show - which toes the Kremlin line so tightly that she has become known as the 'iron doll of Putin TV' - Khodarenok urged his fellow panellist to wean themselves off of 'information tranquilisers' and look objectively at the situation.

First of all, he said, rumours of a 'moral and psychological breakdown in the Ukrainian armed forces which are allegedly on the verge of some kind of crisis in morale' are 'to put it mildly, is false'.

'The situation... is that the Ukrainian armed forces are able to arm a million people,' he added, who will be equipped with western weapons and trained how to use them by armies that are part of NATO. 'So a million armed Ukrainian soldiers needs to be viewed as a reality of the very near future,' he said.


Batting aside objections from Skabayeva that most of those men will be conscripts, he insisted that what really matters isn't how an army is recruited but its willingness to fight.

'A desire to protect one's homeland, in the sense that it exists in Ukraine, it really does exist there, they intend to fight to the last man,' he said. 'Ultimately victory on the battlefield is determined by a high level of morale among personnel, which sheds blood for the ideas which it's prepared to fight for.'

On the world stage, Khodarenok added, things hardly look better. 'We are in full geopolitical isolation,' he said, adding that: 'However much we would hate to admit this, virtually the entire world is against us.'

Nuclear sabre-rattling, he insisted, will do little to deter Russia's enemies and in fact 'actually looks quite amusing' when the whole world is arrayed against the Kremlin.

Urging those around him to 'maintain a sense of realism', he warned that 'sooner or later the reality of history will hit you so hard that you'll regret it.'

It is hardly the first time that Khodarenok has voiced concerns. Even before the war started, he wrote that Ukrainians would fight like hell to defend their country and that Russia was walking into a longer, bloodier, and far more costly conflict than it was preparing for.

It is not even the first time he has spoken out on state TV. Ahead of Putin's Victory Day speech on May 9, he warned that a rumoured mass mobilisation of troops would not solve the problems Russia's military is facing.

But his latest remarks are the lengthiest, most in-depth analysis of the corner that Moscow has backed itself into and seems intended to spark a conversation about how exactly the country gets itself out again.

What remains unclear - however - is whether anyone, and in particularly those in the Kremlin, are listening to him.

He spoke out after repeated briefings from western intelligence agencies said that Russia's offensive in the Donbass has stalled and that a path to Ukrainian victory is now emerging.

In a sign of growing desperation in the Kremlin, military sources said last night that Putin is now micro-managing the war effort - taking decisions that are typically left to colonels as his battleplan falters.

General Valery Gerasimov is also said to be making similar tactical decisions, micro-managing the war in minute detail which would normally be overseen by a colonel.

'We think Putin and Gerasimov are involved in tactical decision-making at a level we would normally expect to be taken by a colonel or a brigadier', said a Western military source, according to The Guardian.

The same source said that Russian battalion tactical groups (BTGs) had been 'battered', adding: 'If Putin is doing the job of a brigade commander' then 'he could be delving into a force that could be as small as 700 to 1,000 soldiers'.

Putin's soldiers have so far failed to achieve their military objectives in eastern Ukraine, where Russian forces have been attempting to mount a breakthrough in order to encircle Ukrainian troops in the Donbas region.

Officials believe Putin's decision to take personal control of on-the-ground troop movements could be contributing to the military failures.

Radio jamming has forced Moscow to send more battalion leaders to the front line in order to communicate with their troops, only for Ukrainians to take advantage by killing Russia's generals - with 12 confirmed dead.

The news comes after Ukrainian soldiers became the country's first to reach the Russian border after retaking Kharkiv from occupation.

Ukraine’s ministry of defence said on social media that the 227th Battalion of the 127th Brigade of its military had reached the border with Russia, marking the closest Ukrainian soldier's have come to their neighbour since it was invaded on February 24.

On Monday, one of Putin's top propagandists has declared Russia's offensive in the Donbas region has failed as incredible pictures show the inside of the steel plant at Azovstal which has been under siege for much of the war.

Russian intelligence officer and commander Igor Girkin took to his Telegram channel to summarise the situation for Russian forces in Ukraine and said their intention was 'so obvious' that Ukraine Armed Forces have been able to resist.

Meanwhile, incredible photos have been shared of the inside of Azovstal steel works - which has been under siege in Mariupol for months - after wounded Ukrainian soldiers were evacuated.

Girkin, who has spoken frankly about the difficulties facing Putin's forces in recent weeks as their invasion of Ukraine drags on, shared a detailed summary of their progress, or lack thereof, on his Telegram channel, adding that the failure to make headway was not a surprise.

He wrote: 'With regret I must say that the widely advertised [...] operation to defeat the Donetsk group of the enemy has FAILED.

'In more than two weeks of fierce hostilities (which have cost both sides huge losses) only tactical successes have been reached. Not a single large locality has been liberated.'

Girkin said that perhaps some 'local tactical successes' could be achieved before a counter-offensive by Ukraine forces but said it was unlikely the Donbas region would be 'fully liberated', adding: 'It's likely the UAF will not even be pushed away from the outskirts of Donetsk. And I cannot say that this result is unexpected for me. Quite the opposite.'

It comes as Russia said on Monday that it had agreed to an evacuation effort from the bunkers below the besieged plant in Mariupol to a medical facility in the Russian-controlled town of Novoazovsk.

As the soldier were evacuated, incredible images were shared online showing inside the plant earlier today.

One photo shows a Ukrainian soldier standing under a beam of light in the now-wrecked steel plant as wounded forces were evacuated.

The fighting at Azovstal in ruined Mariupol has symbolised Ukrainian resistance throughout Russia's nearly three-month-old invasion. Most civilians who had sought shelter at the vast Soviet-era plant were evacuated earlier this month.

'In order to save lives, the entire Mariupol garrison is implementing the approved decision of the Supreme Military Command and hopes for the support of the Ukrainian people,' the Azov Regiment said in a social media post.

In an accompanying video, one of the unit's senior commanders, Denys Prokopenko, said: 'The main thing is to realise all the risks, is there a plan B, are you fully committed to that plan which must allow for fulfilling the assigned tasks and preserve the lives and health of personnel?'

'This is the highest level of overseeing troops. All the more so when your decision is endorsed by the highest military command.'

Prokopenko did not spell out what action the defenders were taking. The video was released hours after Russia said it had agreed to evacuate wounded Ukrainian soldiers to a medical facility in the Russian-controlled town of Novoazovsk.

Ukraine estimates tens of thousands of civilians died in Mariupol during months of siege by Russian forces who destroyed the Sea of Azov port, a city of around 400,000 people.

The last defenders, including many who were wounded, had been holding out for weeks in bunkers beneath Azovstal, one of the largest metallurgical plants in Europe.

'An agreement has been reached on the removal of the wounded,' Russia's defence ministry said in a statement.

'A humanitarian corridor has been opened through which wounded Ukrainian servicemen are being taken to a medical facility in Novoazovsk.'

Ukraine's Deputy Defence Minister Hanna Malyar earlier told Ukrainian television: 'Any information can harm the processes that are taking place ... Inasmuch as the process is under way, we can't say what's happening right now.'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10823981/Ukraine-war-Retired-colonel-tells-Russian-state-media-world-against-us.html[/q



This would serve as a lesson to any " highly rated world powerfull" nation like Russian that thinks that she would wake up one morning and invade an "underestimated " nation like ukraine on grounds that it has amassed "nuclear weapons and tanks" and without the support her allies like North Korean and China. Russian alone has to bear the consequences of "isolation", "stigmatization" and "sanctions".

Babapyro:
This is IGBOFAM dp

Meanwhile second picture is how your daily mail source apparently reported the over a thousand ukrainian forces that surrendered in azovstal hours ago.
Your heads are empty as is the people pushing your crap to Fp and ignoring real news.
Daily mail that Thier logo is Ukraine flag,they are the number one state propaganda for ukraine

3rd picture is your Nazi defenders going to Russia after surrendering

Excursion to Siberia gulag

nams77:
Two things are evidently clear to a logical mind.


1) The army on the Ukrainian side side are foreigners. Highly trained special forces from different countries. In reality, Putin is fighting military personnel from several countries and adequately armed too. Even if Putin wins, it will be a phyrric victory.

I would add that the Ukrainans are probably benefiting from high quality intelligence on Russian movements.

Where are the Putian did you all read the first 3 paragraph?

Dem no dey telli person in Timaya voice.

You can't shy away from the truth forever.

I said it then when Putin madness started that the Russia I know and have lived in can not over run Ukrain. I said it then that Russia is just existing in past glory their army are quack among the so called Super Power Country per standard but the Putian said No, Ukrain we fell within 1 hour that 1 hour never come till today.

Putin go learn hard way.

Discombulator:

At least you didn't claim to be a pro, about 7200 of Ukraine soliders have surrendered or captured by Russia in less than 3 months,the Port City of mauripol which is a strategic gold mine to Link Russia troops in Donbass to the other part of Ukraine has been captured, Kherson has been liberated so is a couple dozen towns,Donbass the whole of Eastern Ukraine is 75% controlled by Russia.
The fiercest must powerful Ukraine forces the infamous Azov battalion has been totally destroyed with thousands of them surrendering to Russia.

All this accomplished against 31 countries including USA fighting Russia in Ukraine over $40b in weapons,tanks, switchblades, aircrafts,ammo etc. And still they could not stop a small faction of Russian forces.
It is your western media that is hyping up ukraine,they are resilient but totally incapable of stopping Russia.

As for Finland and NATO,they are not important,they share no history with Russia, they were not part of the Soviet union and they are not yet American puppets so if they succeed in join NATO there is no need for invasion all Russia will do is deploy nukes to Thier border for protection,those countries will have to live with nukes deployed towards them forever, that would be Thier punishment and if war breaks out between NATO they are the first to perish obviously

E say ‘Kherson has been liberated’. Imagine boasting with a town that fell in the early days of the war

Even videos only show hundreds of Azov fighters surrendering. They achieved their mission. Tied down large Russian BTGs, fighting on despite being encircled since March 1st. Inflicting MASSIVE casualties on Russian forces. They’ve achieved their mission.

E say na ‘small fraction’. Russia’s pumped the bulk of their standing fighting force into this war. Only way they get substantially more troops is if they declare full mobilization. And your beloved tyrant doesn’t want to admit this because it will make him look weak.

Even if they fully mobilize, they’ll be facing an Ukrainian army that’s combat tested and better trained with their army of conscripts. There’s really no exit route for Putin

Dawn91:



This is one of them... Visa rejects... they are so bitter and pained . they hoped Russia would have won since just because they can never leave Nigeria...

These are keke riders. University dropouts ... Poverty stricken people

See them so angry

I'm an American loser, what is with you improverished Nigerians and the need to to embarrass yourself online

texazzpete:


Crimea was annexed in 2014. The vast majority of the rest were taken in the early days of the war after Russia’s sneak attack on Ukraine.

You didn’t mention the cities and forests that have become burial grounds for Russian soldiers. Or the fact that the bulk of Russia’s elite paratroopers were shot, burnt and crippled around Kyiv.

See what you’ve listed above. The minor gains of an army that claimed they would seize ALL of Ukraine in days. Failure

This was not intended for a win, they plan things very well and win very well.

Igbofam:
1. He warned that myths of the Ukrainian army being demoralised and in disarray are 'to put it mildly, false'

2. Said Ukraine may soon have 1m troops armed with western weapons who are ready to 'fight to the last man'

3.Russia is in 'full geopolitical isolation' with 'virtually the entire world against us', Khodaryonok added, saying it is a situation that the country 'needs to get out of'

Russian state media's trumped-up narrative of Putin's glorious war in Ukraine was last night shattered by a retired colonel who gave an unusually frank and damning assessment of the situation on the frontlines and world stage.


Mikhail Khodarenok, a former air defence commander and graduate of some of the Soviet Union's top military schools, used his platform on one of Russia's most-watched talk shows to warn that the war is going badly and is likely to get worse, and that nuclear sabre-rattling - far from being threatening - actually 'looks quite amusing'.

Ukraine, he said, will soon have mobilised more than a million soldiers who will be trained by the West and equipped with modern weapons, ready to fight and die to protect their homeland against Russia.

Batting aside repeated interruption from propagandist Olga Skabeyeva that the army will be mostly made of conscripts, Khodarenok insisted that how an army is recruited is irrelevant - what really matters is willingness to fight, and Ukraine 'intends to fight to the last man.'

Russia's position on the world stage is no better, he added, pointing out that 'we are in full geopolitical isolation, and that, however much we would hate to admit this, virtually the entire world is against us. And it's that situation that we need to get out of.'

Khodarenok's remarks, broadcast to millions of Russians who until now have been spoon-fed a narrative of their military's prowess and Ukraine's weakness, mark a stunning break with the state-sanctioned narrative and puts him at extreme odds with the Kremlin stooges stood to either side of him.

Speaking on Skabeyeva's evening talk show - which toes the Kremlin line so tightly that she has become known as the 'iron doll of Putin TV' - Khodarenok urged his fellow panellist to wean themselves off of 'information tranquilisers' and look objectively at the situation.

First of all, he said, rumours of a 'moral and psychological breakdown in the Ukrainian armed forces which are allegedly on the verge of some kind of crisis in morale' are 'to put it mildly, is false'.

'The situation... is that the Ukrainian armed forces are able to arm a million people,' he added, who will be equipped with western weapons and trained how to use them by armies that are part of NATO. 'So a million armed Ukrainian soldiers needs to be viewed as a reality of the very near future,' he said.


Batting aside objections from Skabayeva that most of those men will be conscripts, he insisted that what really matters isn't how an army is recruited but its willingness to fight.

'A desire to protect one's homeland, in the sense that it exists in Ukraine, it really does exist there, they intend to fight to the last man,' he said. 'Ultimately victory on the battlefield is determined by a high level of morale among personnel, which sheds blood for the ideas which it's prepared to fight for.'

On the world stage, Khodarenok added, things hardly look better. 'We are in full geopolitical isolation,' he said, adding that: 'However much we would hate to admit this, virtually the entire world is against us.'

Nuclear sabre-rattling, he insisted, will do little to deter Russia's enemies and in fact 'actually looks quite amusing' when the whole world is arrayed against the Kremlin.

Urging those around him to 'maintain a sense of realism', he warned that 'sooner or later the reality of history will hit you so hard that you'll regret it.'

It is hardly the first time that Khodarenok has voiced concerns. Even before the war started, he wrote that Ukrainians would fight like hell to defend their country and that Russia was walking into a longer, bloodier, and far more costly conflict than it was preparing for.

It is not even the first time he has spoken out on state TV. Ahead of Putin's Victory Day speech on May 9, he warned that a rumoured mass mobilisation of troops would not solve the problems Russia's military is facing.

But his latest remarks are the lengthiest, most in-depth analysis of the corner that Moscow has backed itself into and seems intended to spark a conversation about how exactly the country gets itself out again.

What remains unclear - however - is whether anyone, and in particularly those in the Kremlin, are listening to him.

He spoke out after repeated briefings from western intelligence agencies said that Russia's offensive in the Donbass has stalled and that a path to Ukrainian victory is now emerging.

In a sign of growing desperation in the Kremlin, military sources said last night that Putin is now micro-managing the war effort - taking decisions that are typically left to colonels as his battleplan falters.

General Valery Gerasimov is also said to be making similar tactical decisions, micro-managing the war in minute detail which would normally be overseen by a colonel.

'We think Putin and Gerasimov are involved in tactical decision-making at a level we would normally expect to be taken by a colonel or a brigadier', said a Western military source, according to The Guardian.

The same source said that Russian battalion tactical groups (BTGs) had been 'battered', adding: 'If Putin is doing the job of a brigade commander' then 'he could be delving into a force that could be as small as 700 to 1,000 soldiers'.

Putin's soldiers have so far failed to achieve their military objectives in eastern Ukraine, where Russian forces have been attempting to mount a breakthrough in order to encircle Ukrainian troops in the Donbas region.

Officials believe Putin's decision to take personal control of on-the-ground troop movements could be contributing to the military failures.

Radio jamming has forced Moscow to send more battalion leaders to the front line in order to communicate with their troops, only for Ukrainians to take advantage by killing Russia's generals - with 12 confirmed dead.

The news comes after Ukrainian soldiers became the country's first to reach the Russian border after retaking Kharkiv from occupation.

Ukraine’s ministry of defence said on social media that the 227th Battalion of the 127th Brigade of its military had reached the border with Russia, marking the closest Ukrainian soldier's have come to their neighbour since it was invaded on February 24.

On Monday, one of Putin's top propagandists has declared Russia's offensive in the Donbas region has failed as incredible pictures show the inside of the steel plant at Azovstal which has been under siege for much of the war.

Russian intelligence officer and commander Igor Girkin took to his Telegram channel to summarise the situation for Russian forces in Ukraine and said their intention was 'so obvious' that Ukraine Armed Forces have been able to resist.

Meanwhile, incredible photos have been shared of the inside of Azovstal steel works - which has been under siege in Mariupol for months - after wounded Ukrainian soldiers were evacuated.

Girkin, who has spoken frankly about the difficulties facing Putin's forces in recent weeks as their invasion of Ukraine drags on, shared a detailed summary of their progress, or lack thereof, on his Telegram channel, adding that the failure to make headway was not a surprise.

He wrote: 'With regret I must say that the widely advertised [...] operation to defeat the Donetsk group of the enemy has FAILED.

'In more than two weeks of fierce hostilities (which have cost both sides huge losses) only tactical successes have been reached. Not a single large locality has been liberated.'

Girkin said that perhaps some 'local tactical successes' could be achieved before a counter-offensive by Ukraine forces but said it was unlikely the Donbas region would be 'fully liberated', adding: 'It's likely the UAF will not even be pushed away from the outskirts of Donetsk. And I cannot say that this result is unexpected for me. Quite the opposite.'

It comes as Russia said on Monday that it had agreed to an evacuation effort from the bunkers below the besieged plant in Mariupol to a medical facility in the Russian-controlled town of Novoazovsk.

As the soldier were evacuated, incredible images were shared online showing inside the plant earlier today.

One photo shows a Ukrainian soldier standing under a beam of light in the now-wrecked steel plant as wounded forces were evacuated.

The fighting at Azovstal in ruined Mariupol has symbolised Ukrainian resistance throughout Russia's nearly three-month-old invasion. Most civilians who had sought shelter at the vast Soviet-era plant were evacuated earlier this month.

'In order to save lives, the entire Mariupol garrison is implementing the approved decision of the Supreme Military Command and hopes for the support of the Ukrainian people,' the Azov Regiment said in a social media post.

In an accompanying video, one of the unit's senior commanders, Denys Prokopenko, said: 'The main thing is to realise all the risks, is there a plan B, are you fully committed to that plan which must allow for fulfilling the assigned tasks and preserve the lives and health of personnel?'

'This is the highest level of overseeing troops. All the more so when your decision is endorsed by the highest military command.'

Prokopenko did not spell out what action the defenders were taking. The video was released hours after Russia said it had agreed to evacuate wounded Ukrainian soldiers to a medical facility in the Russian-controlled town of Novoazovsk.

Ukraine estimates tens of thousands of civilians died in Mariupol during months of siege by Russian forces who destroyed the Sea of Azov port, a city of around 400,000 people.

The last defenders, including many who were wounded, had been holding out for weeks in bunkers beneath Azovstal, one of the largest metallurgical plants in Europe.

'An agreement has been reached on the removal of the wounded,' Russia's defence ministry said in a statement.

'A humanitarian corridor has been opened through which wounded Ukrainian servicemen are being taken to a medical facility in Novoazovsk.'

Ukraine's Deputy Defence Minister Hanna Malyar earlier told Ukrainian television: 'Any information can harm the processes that are taking place ... Inasmuch as the process is under way, we can't say what's happening right now.'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10823981/Ukraine-war-Retired-colonel-tells-Russian-state-media-world-against-us.html

They should overthrow Putin. Russian Army can do this if they are serious. America will be willing to provide logistics. There will be bloodbath but it will worth it.

They are in your homeland. They have to give you humanitarian corridor for your wounded.

It's good to keep an open mind. In that singular fact above lies the answer to the question "what is happening in Ukraine?"

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shogsman:

I'm an American loser, what is with you improverished Nigerians and the need to to embarrass yourself online

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nams77:
Two things are evidently clear to a logical mind.


1) The army on the Ukrainian side side are foreigners. Highly trained special forces from different countries. In reality, Putin is fighting military personnel from several countries and adequately armed too. Even if Putin wins, it will be a phyrric victory.


2.) Putin is becoming like a pariah. Very few support base on a global scale. On how many fronts can he fight? With Sweden and Finland joining NATO?

I'm neither pro- Russia or Pro-ukraine. Just an objective observer

Aptly said, let me clarify some points though;

1. Yes, there are a lot of mercenaries and also soldiers under direct NATO command operating in Ukraine. Plus the mobilization base of the Ukrainians is over a million personnel against about 150,000 to 200,000 Russian forces comprising frontline combat, National Guard and auxiliary support forces (note that Russia has refused to mobilize as mobilizing means that the narrative changes from a Special Military Operation into full blown war - the politics of the narrative is a different matter entirely though). Hence, no matter how many Ukrainian soldiers are dying or surrendering, there are still many available to send to the front and they are being supplied with Western weapons (although certain obsolete models) and REAL TIME intelligence which is very valuable. Another point to note here is that Ukraine's economy is in a war mode, while Russia's is still operating normally. Hence, the dynamics are different.
Essentially, this a civil war which is fought between two brotherly nations but has now metamorphosed into a proxy war with the USA/NATO (who effectively controls the decision making organs of one of the parties to the conflict - Ukraine). For Russia, this is existential, so this conflict will gradually escalate until either victory (Pyrrhic or not) is achieved or it tips over into WW3.

2. Very few people understand the reason for this conflict and this is deliberate, as the global media has scrubbed all information to reflect only ONE POINT OF VIEW, which is that Russia is an aggressor and Ukraine is a victim. However, if you take pains to research and look at the root cause of this issue right from 2004, it becomes clear that this was a trap set for Russia, and Russia had to walk into it knowing the enormous cost it will bear nonetheless, as the alternative will have been to have a loaded gun pointed at the heart of Russia via the territory of Ukraine.
With regards to Putin being a Pariah globally, I wouldn't really say so. Majority of the nations in the Global South i.e. Africa, South America, Mexico, South East Asia, India & China are in support of the Russians. Their voices aren't the loudest because they don't have the media empire that the United States possesses, even the media that these countries possess aren't exactly broadcasting in English (so we don't really consider them) and they too are afraid of Sanctions to one degree or the other so they wouldn't openly voice out support.
However, if Russia does manage to win against all odds and breaks the hold of the United States over Ukraine, then expect a major seismic shift to occur with regards to the World Order (both politically and economically). This battle is for Russia's future as much as it is also for the future of the United States.

olas24u:
Berdyansk, Kherson, Melitopol, Crimea Sea of Azov, Volnovakha, Popasnaya in Donbass, including Izyum near Kharkov.all Russian play ground.

Minutes ago, about 700 Soldiers in Mariupol surrendered and buses were sent to move them to Russian base.

Ukraine is calling for swap.

shogsman:
Seun don push another crap from his minions to fp, thousands of Ukraine soliders surrendered to Russia today in the biggest move since the war broke out there is no mention of it on fp o.
The same daily mail that is your source reported Ukraine surrender like this

I just knew after the surrender, they will push some fake news to the front page.

Meanwhile:

Neither France, nor the EU, nor NATO want war with Russia - representative of the French Foreign Ministry.

Babapyro:
This is IGBOFAM dp

Meanwhile second picture is how your daily mail source apparently reported the over a thousand ukrainian forces that surrendered in azovstal hours ago.
Your heads are empty as is the people pushing your crap to Fp and ignoring real news.
Daily mail that Thier logo is Ukraine flag,they are the number one state propaganda for ukraine

3rd picture is your Nazi defenders going to Russia after surrendering

Omo na so you just wake enter colo,
Chaiii, you Don dey crase ooo....eiyaaaa...doh.
Matter wey you go just read then move on, no go drink sniper o...
Put in wey dem go soon push out of sit or even assassinate

When is that man's burial? He is a dead man already.

frankson1:




Minutes ago, about 700 Soldiers in Mariupol surrendered and buses were sent to move them to Russian base.

Ukraine is calling for swap.

960 have surrendered so far. I don't think that they will be swapped, as these guys are the Azov battalion soldiers which the Russians want to prosecute.

Moreso, Russia as at last count had about 3,000 regular Ukrainian soldiers in captivity excluding the 960 mentioned above. While Ukraine has between 250-300 Russians soldiers remaining in their custody (they had previously swapped about 140 persons so far).

The truth always comes out

Discombulator:

At least you didn't claim to be a pro, about 7200 of Ukraine soliders have surrendered or captured by Russia in less than 3 months,the Port City of mauripol which is a strategic gold mine to Link Russia troops in Donbass to the other part of Ukraine has been captured, Kherson has been liberated so is a couple dozen towns,Donbass the whole of Eastern Ukraine is 75% controlled by Russia.
The fiercest must powerful Ukraine forces the infamous Azov battalion has been totally destroyed with thousands of them surrendering to Russia.

All this accomplished against 31 countries including USA fighting Russia in Ukraine over $40b in weapons,tanks, switchblades, aircrafts,ammo etc. And still they could not stop a small faction of Russian forces.
It is your western media that is hyping up ukraine,they are resilient but totally incapable of stopping Russia.

As for Finland and NATO,they are not important,they share no history with Russia, they were not part of the Soviet union and they are not yet American puppets so if they succeed in join NATO there is no need for invasion all Russia will do is deploy nukes to Thier border for protection,those countries will have to live with nukes deployed towards them forever, that would be Thier punishment and if war breaks out between NATO they are the first to perish obviously

Ukraine is begging that Azov fighters be swapped with Russian Soldiers. Lots of them surrendered and buses were sent to move them.

Putin had already said that Nukes would be moved to Finland and Sweden borders.

olas24u:

This was not intended for a win, they plan things very well and win very well.

They planned to send elite troops to seize Zelensky in the first day, then in support sent a huge convoy of tanks and other armor to encircle and seize the capital.

Plan fell apart and the convoy was crushed.

So no, they didn’t ‘plan very well’ since logistics failure was one of the key reasons for their defeat. And they don’t ‘win decisively since the war has come to a bloody back and forth affair months after the war started.

They Couldn’t even achieve air superiority over Ukraine!

One thing that is sure after this war, whether Ukraine "wins or loses", is that they'll come out with a significantly stronger military strength... whether in number of personnel or equipment.

olas24u:


Sorry brother, ukraine is now landlocked, 5 Sea strategy fully implemented, next stop odessa.

How is Ukraine ‘landlocked’ when Odessa is a famous seaport town?

Kai. I lower myself to argue with you Putin cultists. Because it’s hard to understand how you people are so bereft of facts and logic.

mach7:
960 have surrendered so far. I don't think that they will be swapped, as these guys are the Azov battalion soldiers which the Russians want to prosecute.

Moreso, Russia as at last count had about 3,000 regular Ukrainian soldiers in captivity excluding the 960 mentioned above. While Ukraine has between 250-300 Russians soldiers remaining in their custody (they had previously swapped about 140 persons so far).

You're right, Ukraine is calling for swap but Russia wants to prosecute.

The Azov fighters are blaming the politicians in Kiev for not being sincere to them.

olas24u:
Berdyansk, Kherson, Melitopol, Crimea Sea of Azov, Volnovakha, Popasnaya in Donbass, including Izyum near Kharkov.all Russian play ground.

And yet they still can't win a war against a minnow..
Some playground..
Na Basketball them dey play?

ponishah:

Omo na so you just wake enter colo,
Chaiii, you Don dey crase ooo....eiyaaaa...doh.
Matter wey you go just read then move on, no go drink sniper o...
Put in wey dem go soon push out of sit or even assassinate

But no be your father buy my china phone for me na how u go tell me which post to react to

Benjaniblinks:

Na so

The same state sponsored delusion the Commander was talking about?
It's been 3 months Oga ,and Russia is no nearer to winning the war than the first day of invasion..
That on itself is a big time failure,for an invasion that was supposed to be a routine take over..
The Clowns are even threatening with Nuclear warfare..

Pro-Kremlin Nairalanders, over to you guys

mach7:
Aptly said, let me clarify some points though;

1. Yes, there are a lot of mercenaries and also soldiers under direct NATO command operating in Ukraine. Plus the mobilization base of the Ukrainians is over a million personnel against about 150,000 to 200,000 Russian forces comprising frontline combat, National Guard and auxiliary support forces (note that Russia has refused to mobilize as mobilizing means that the narrative changes from a Special Military Operation into full blown war - the politics of the narrative is a different matter entirely though). Hence, no matter how many are dying or surrendering, there are still many available to send to the front and they are being supplied with Western weapons (although certain obsolete models). Another point to note here is that Ukraine's economy is in a war mode, while Russia's is still operating normally. Hence, the dynamics are different.
Essentially, this a civil war which is fought between two brotherly nations but has now metamorphosed into a proxy war with the USA/NATO (who effectively controls the decision making organs of one of the parties to the conflict). For Russia, this is existential, so it this will gradually escalate until either victory (Pyrrhic or not) is achieved or it tips over into WW3.

2. Very few people understand the reason for this conflict and this is deliberate, as the global media has scrubbed all information to reflect only ONE POINT OF VIEW, which is that Russia is an aggressor and Ukraine is a victim. However, if you take pains to research and look at the root cause of this own issue right from 2004, it becomes clear that this was a trap set for Russia, and Russia had to walk into it knowing the enormous cost it will bear nonetheless, as the alternative will have been to have a loaded gun pointed at the heart of Russia via the territory of Ukraine.
With regards to Putin being a Pariah globally, I wouldn't really say so. Majority of the nations in the Global South i.e. Africa, South America, Mexico, South East Asia, India & China are in support of the Russians. Their voices aren't the loudest because they don't have the media empire that the United States possesses, even the media that they possess aren't exactly broadcasting in English (so we don't really consider them) and they too are afraid of Sanctions to one degree or the other so they wouldn't openly voice out support.
However, if Russia does manage to win against all odds are breaks the hold of the United States over Ukraine, then expect a major seismic shift to occur with regards to the World Order. This battle is for Russia's as much as it is also for the United States.

why are u even wasting ur time... pro-ukrainians aren't interested in anything other than Ukraine is winning... Secondly, this igbofam is a chronic lier who claims is an EU energy expert working on some phantom energy deal, thirdly, 90% of his thread always turns out to be pure lies or out of context.. Finally, even Seun is pro-ukraine, u can see him even on Twitter shilling them....

In conclusion, just let them do thier thing, they have got multiple monikers to attack anybody who disagrees with them either neutral or pro-russia

for Finland and Sweden to want to join NATO is enough info that Russia can't take over Ukraine, because which is also a sign that Russia is not that powerful as people portray it to be yes they might av weapons of mass distruction but for those two countries to ignore Putin and want to join NATO just know that they're not scared of Russia maybe except Putin use nuclear that's the only way....

ken6488:

Any body can be bribed to come online and be deceiving them selves like you


But that doesn't change reality on ground
Ukraine is loosing

I'm from dumbass and I think I know somewhere around the hood