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Re: Putin Signals Acceptance Of Finland, Sweden Joining NATO by kristo123: 7:42am On May 20, 2022
with all the nuclear threat... Russia is finally accepting defeat.
Re: Putin Signals Acceptance Of Finland, Sweden Joining NATO by GEJDHERO: 7:43am On May 20, 2022
Emperorx:
You are very stupid to say such a thing to a human being like you .Are u God? Idiot
E pain am chai
Re: Putin Signals Acceptance Of Finland, Sweden Joining NATO by Igbofam2: 7:44am On May 20, 2022
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Excuzeme:
Problem with most Nigerians is that they lack Analytical Skills or maybe they are just too lazy to seek information and would just make ignorant unfounded statements that lack any form of credit!

In Ukraine, the War is still ongoing and Ukrainian Officials just confirmed that "Russia is taking Village and Village, though their advance is slow but Certain". I have quoted it Verbatim.
Does that sound like Russia is tired/defeated?

Yesterday, Russia paraded about 1700 Ukrainian Special Forces, (Battalion 34th and 36th) and the "crack" Azov Battalions that it Captured and they SURRENDERED. It was on many TV Stations, (including our own ARISE NEWS) though CNN refuse to carry it so that it can continue to fool Americans that Ukraine is "fighting and advancing" against Russia. grin
Does that sound like a defeated or tired Army?

About HALF of all GAZPROM Customers (European Countries that put Sanctions on Russian Energy) have OPENED RUBLE Bank Accounts as of today! Italy just said it would take far longer than it thought, to win itself off Russian Energy (meaning, paying in Ruble is Game! grin ).
Does that look like a Russia that is crippled and tired?

The Russian Currency has gained FIVE TIMES its Pre-War Value, as of TODAY and still increasing, while Europe and America are steeped in spiraling Inflation, due to High Energy and Food Costs! Even Baby Food is in Shortage in America, as of Today. grin grin
Does that sound like a Russia whose Economy is destroyed?

MrBiggs (of America) Business Franchise in Russia has just been BOUGHT OVER by a Russian, other Fast Foods like KFC to follow.
Does that look like Russia facing food Shortages or Economy suffering?

On Sweden and Finland:
Truth is, Russia is in a War with over "30 Countries" and it is still STANDING. It deserves respect joor.
As long as all these Countries, are supplying Weapons to Ukraine, training Ukrainian Soldiers to use them, Discretely Supplying "Contract Soldiers and Mercenaries" to Ukraine, to fight Russia, Supplying Military Intelligence to Ukraine (Troop and Weapons Movement, target Coordinates for Missiles, etc), ALL those over THIRTY COUNTRIES are in a "Pseudo War" with Russia.
It does not matter what anyone thinks or says, the FACTS is what l have stated above., Happy about it or not, is immaterial.
"Weapons and Intelligence" is what wins War of the 21st Century, not the number of Troops you station somewhere, that can be wiped out with a Missile.

No one expects Russia to start another War with Sweden, they have No Existing Dispute at the Moment.
America and Europe (NATO) are just trying to "drag" everyone around Russia into their "Orbit of Control", so it can give them advantage over Russia.
Not one of these Countries ON IT OWN, can face Russia, that is why they need to gang-Up
.

Russia has done what it needs to do and what it always do: Lay Down the WARNING! Whether Sweden and Finland decide to heed it or not, is their own problem.
Any sane Country knows that it is disadvantageous, especially if you are facing threats from multiple Nations, including America, to start another War when the "Threat is not as imminent" ....... unlike the case with Ukraine.

Even America "took steps" to reduce its number of Enemies, when this War started!
For example:
- America which has put Turkey under sanctions (Sweden and Finland also did at the same time) since early last year, decided that it is not in its interest, to make Turkey an Enemy at this point, otherwise it will side with Russia! America quickly reversed all its sanctions on Turkey! It even decided to SELL the F-35 Fighter Jets it said it would not sell to Turkey before (they built it together, Turkey invested over $5Billion, Man-Power and Software into it but America just "kicked them out" because they bought Russian S-4000 Missiles!)
Now, America is the one begging Turkey. You see why it is not just only Russia that knows it limits? undecided grin

- Venezuela, with the largest Oil Reserve in the World, was reduced to a poor Country, due to American Sanctions on its Oil.
It cannot Sell its oil to anyone, America also sieved its Foreign Reserve!
But due to this Russia/Ukraine War, leading to shortage of Energy World Wide, America went abegging to Venezuela and is urging it to ramp up and start exporting Oil to "American Allies" in Europe! grin grin
Na so, "Strong-Man" take calm down to small Venezuela. undecided Why should Russia be different?

The list is endless. Even to test its Hypersonic Missile whose Tests was already scheduled before the War started and it was to take place TWO WEEKS after the War started, America POSTPONED the Test (It just did it last Monday!) because, according to it, it does not want to spook Russia and make it think it was launching a Missile at it, so that Russia will not go and RETALLIATE for something that was not intended.
That is America using its brain and "calming down" before it regrets its action.

So, for all those gloating here about Russia not invading Sweden or Finland because they applied to join NATO, sounds "somehow" to me.
I will think that we should be more objective than this, if we want to venture into discussing International Issues that are critical to everybody/
It this was in the "Romance Section" and we are catching cruise, l wont mind at all but we are talking about "WAR, Nuclear Powered Countries, Hundreds of thousands of Lives and Destinies at Stake, etc.

NB: The above are just my Opinion, for Academic Purposes only, l have No Horse in this Race.
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Lengthy yet senseless post

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Re: Putin Signals Acceptance Of Finland, Sweden Joining NATO by Flamezreal(m): 7:45am On May 20, 2022
Political power has a way to manipulate things and humble the "strong" Putin, Nnamdi Kanu, Sunday Igboho .......
Re: Putin Signals Acceptance Of Finland, Sweden Joining NATO by Excuzeme: 7:46am On May 20, 2022
Igbofam2:



How is the geographical location of Ukraine different from that of Finland where Russia is concerned? Do both countries not share the same border with Russia?

You Putin bots always sound stupid when you want to defend the one whose ass you so love to lick


Habba!
Stop using Insults and foul language to convey whatever you want to say!
It does not show maturity or good Upbringing.

You have the Right to air your own Opinion, just like anyone here,
You dont have to accept what those on the other side say, and they dont have to accept yours
but we all deserve a "Healthy Space" where we can learn from each other, free of these sort of Insults and Abuses that undermine whatever you are saying.
I am certain you have more important things to say, so why waste time on Insults, instead of saying those things, so other people can learn from you?

There are lot of difference between Finland/Sweden and Ukraine:
1) Russia and Ukraine are in a border dispute over Crimea, Russia does not have a border dispute with Sweden/Finland.
With Ukraine in NATO, that military Group HAS TO PHYSICALLY fight on behalf of Ukraine! That is why the Article of Association says "You cant join NATO (or even the E.U), if you are currently engage in a War with another country".

2) Sweden/Finland have friendly Relations with Russia, they have Non-Aggression treaties, Russia does not have that with Ukraine.

3) Ukraine is trying to secretly develop Nuclear Weapons. Just like Israel will not accept its neighbor, Iran develop Nuclear Weapons (Existential threats) and it still bombed them last Weekend), Russia will not allow Ukraine to develop a Nuclear bomb.
Sweden and Finland have No Interest in the Nuclear Bomb.

4) Ukraine was also developing Chemical and Biological Weapons. Finland and Sweden are not.
Russia raided the WMD Laboratories in Ukraine (they tried to destroy as much of it as possible), sieved the items and documents and presented them to the UN Security Council.
(I can bet, 90% of People commenting here have not read that Report, I have read it and have a Copy).

So, in conclusion, We cant compare Sweden/Finland joining NATO, to Ukraine trying to joing NATO, they are a World apart, when it comes to the Threat it posses to Russia.
Every Country with the Muscle to Act, will do so, if the action of its Neighbor threatens its Security.


I know a lot of People dont appreciate Russia, we dont appreciate the stability they are bringing to the table, when it comes to "Geo-Balance" in the World Order. Just like we never appreciated the USSR until it was imploded by America and then we all saw ho America was matching and inflicting War on one country after another, with No one to challenge its hegemony. But it was too late, USSR was gone already. undecided

"Majority of the Masses cannot be trusted to take the right decisions that is best for them, that is why we have "Government and Leaders", let us just hope they are not like the Nigerians Leaders/Government. grin


NB: No Offense, l will be glad to read your own OPINION as well, just let it be devoid of Abuses/Insults.
We are all learning from each other.

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Re: Putin Signals Acceptance Of Finland, Sweden Joining NATO by Amayabor1: 7:46am On May 20, 2022
alabo1:


Go and read you will not. Finland and Sweden in NATO pose no threat unless strategic missiles are deployed there. Ukraine poses a major threat due to its geographical location and Russian previous experiences with invasions. You Western BOTS will never read only get your information from CNN

Lol. So if Finland and Sweden joins NATO tomorrow, Putin will stop strategic missiles from being placed in countries that are now in NATO? Una too funny Sha

But he was raking before that there will be consequences if Finland and Sweden join Nato. What changed?

For your information, any NATO country can house Nato's strategic weapons. If Sweden and Finland joins NATO tomorrow, NATO will place strategic weapons in Finland and Sweden and nothing Russia can do about it.

Russia can't stop Finland and Sweden from joining Nato but it is after they join that Russia will stop NATO from deploying weapons in Finland and Sweden. Una too funny abeg grin

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Re: Putin Signals Acceptance Of Finland, Sweden Joining NATO by Excuzeme: 7:46am On May 20, 2022
Igbofam2:
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Lengthy yet senseless post


You see what l am saying..... undecided undecided

Very Sad.
Re: Putin Signals Acceptance Of Finland, Sweden Joining NATO by hermesprogidy(m): 7:48am On May 20, 2022
alabo1:


Go and read you will not. Finland and Sweden in NATO pose no threat unless strategic missiles are deployed there. Ukraine poses a major threat due to its geographical location and Russian previous experiences with invasions. You Western BOTS will never read only get your information from CNN
Last time I checked, Russia shares borders with Ukraine, Belarus, Latvia, Estonia, and FINLAND!!!. So when you imply that Finland doesn't pose a threat to Russia geographically, what does that even mean?

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Re: Putin Signals Acceptance Of Finland, Sweden Joining NATO by Temi2468: 7:48am On May 20, 2022
Terrence99:


By midnight, you dey beg. Your life is completely damaged.

This is too harsh on him. If you can't help, don't add to people's issues. Some may actually be going through a lot though we know many here just like soft landing by resorting to begging.
Re: Putin Signals Acceptance Of Finland, Sweden Joining NATO by Igbofam2: 7:48am On May 20, 2022
[s]
Excuzeme:



Habba!
Stop using Insults and foul language to convey whatever you want to say!
It does not show maturity or good Upbringing.

You have the Right to air your own Opinion, just like anyone here,
You dont have to accept what those on the other side say, and they dont have to accept yours
but we all deserve a "Healthy Space" where we can learn from each other, free of these sort of Insults and Abuses that undermine whatever you are saying.
I am certain you have more important things to say, so why waste time on Insults, instead of saying those things, so other people can learn from you?

There are lot of difference between Finland/Sweden and Ukraine:
1) Russia and Ukraine are in a border dispute over Crimea, Russia does not have a border dispute with Sweden/Finland.
With Ukraine in NATO, that military Group HAS TO PHYSICALLY fight on behalf of Ukraine! That is why the Article of Association says "You cant join NATO (or even the E.U), if you are currently engage in a War with another country".

2) Sweden/Finland have friendly Relations with Russia, they have Non-Aggression treaties, Russia does not have that with Ukraine.

3) Ukraine is trying to secretly develop Nuclear Weapons. Just like Israel will not accept its neighbor, Iran develop Nuclear Weapons (Existential threats) and it still bombed them last Weekend), Russia will not allow Ukraine to develop a Nuclear bomb.
Sweden and Finland have No Interest in the Nuclear Bomb.

4) Ukraine was also developing Chemical and Biological Weapons. Finland and Sweden are not.
Russia raided the WMD Laboratories in Ukraine (they tried to destroy as much of it as possible), sieved the items and documents and presented them to the UN Security Council.
(I can bet, 90% of People commenting here have not read that Report, I have read it and have a Copy).

So, in conclusion, We cant compare Sweden/Finland joining NATO, to Ukraine trying to joing NATO, they are a World apart, when it comes to the Threat it posses to Russia.
Every Country with the Muscle to Act, will do so, if the action of its Neighbor threatens its Security.


I know a lot of People dont appreciate Russia, we dont appreciate the stability they are bringing to the table, when it comes to "Geo-Balance" in the World Order. Just like we never appreciated the USSR until it was imploded by America and then we all saw ho America was matching and inflicting War on one country after another, with No one to challenge its hegemony. But it was too late, USSR was gone already. undecided

"Majority of the Masses cannot be trusted to take the right decisions that is best for them, that is why we have "Government and Leaders", let us just hope they are not like the Nigerians Leaders/Government. grin


NB: No Offense, l will be glad to read your own OPINION as well, just let it be devoid of Abuses/Insults.
We are all learning from each other.
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Another lengthy yet senseless post

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Re: Putin Signals Acceptance Of Finland, Sweden Joining NATO by Igbofam2: 7:50am On May 20, 2022
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Excuzeme:



You see what l am saying..... undecided undecided

Very Sad.
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All shades of senselessness

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Re: Putin Signals Acceptance Of Finland, Sweden Joining NATO by Excuzeme: 7:50am On May 20, 2022
alabo1:


Go and read you will not. Finland and Sweden in NATO pose no threat unless strategic missiles are deployed there. Ukraine poses a major threat due to its geographical location and Russian previous experiences with invasions. You Western BOTS will never read only get your information from CNN

The bolded is also True!
The issue of Ukraine and Russia is very Deep!
America/Europe know this as well.

When Two Elephants Fight, it is the Grass that suffers.
We shall see where this will end for Ukraine.
Re: Putin Signals Acceptance Of Finland, Sweden Joining NATO by Centrallock: 7:50am On May 20, 2022
Excuzeme:
Problem with most Nigerians is that they lack Analytical Skills or maybe they are just too lazy to seek information and would just make ignorant unfounded statements that lack any form of credit!

In Ukraine, the War is still ongoing and Ukrainian Officials just confirmed that "Russia is taking Village and Village, though their advance is slow but Certain". I have quoted it Verbatim.
Does that sound like Russia is tired/defeated?

Yesterday, Russia paraded about 1700 Ukrainian Special Forces, (Battalion 34th and 36th) and the "crack" Azov Battalions that it Captured and they SURRENDERED. It was on many TV Stations, (including our own ARISE NEWS) though CNN refuse to carry it so that it can continue to fool Americans that Ukraine is "fighting and advancing" against Russia. grin
Does that sound like a defeated or tired Army?

About HALF of all GAZPROM Customers (European Countries that put Sanctions on Russian Energy) have OPENED RUBLE Bank Accounts as of today! Italy just said it would take far longer than it thought, to win itself off Russian Energy (meaning, paying in Ruble is Game! grin ).
Does that look like a Russia that is crippled and tired?

The Russian Currency has gained FIVE TIMES its Pre-War Value, as of TODAY and still increasing, while Europe and America are steeped in spiraling Inflation, due to High Energy and Food Costs! Even Baby Food is in Shortage in America, as of Today. grin grin
Does that sound like a Russia whose Economy is destroyed?

MrBiggs (of America) Business Franchise in Russia has just been BOUGHT OVER by a Russian, other Fast Foods like KFC to follow.
Does that look like Russia facing food Shortages or Economy suffering?

On Sweden and Finland:
Truth is, Russia is in a War with over "30 Countries" and it is still STANDING. It deserves respect joor.
As long as all these Countries, are supplying Weapons to Ukraine, training Ukrainian Soldiers to use them, Discretely Supplying "Contract Soldiers and Mercenaries" to Ukraine, to fight Russia, Supplying Military Intelligence to Ukraine (Troop and Weapons Movement, target Coordinates for Missiles, etc), ALL those over THIRTY COUNTRIES are in a "Pseudo War" with Russia.
It does not matter what anyone thinks or says, the FACTS is what l have stated above., Happy about it or not, is immaterial.
"Weapons and Intelligence" is what wins War of the 21st Century, not the number of Troops you station somewhere, that can be wiped out with a Missile.

No one expects Russia to start another War with Sweden, they have No Existing Dispute at the Moment.
America and Europe (NATO) are just trying to "drag" everyone around Russia into their "Orbit of Control", so it can give them advantage over Russia.
Not one of these Countries ON IT OWN, can face Russia, that is why they need to gang-Up
.

Russia has done what it needs to do and what it always do: Lay Down the WARNING! Whether Sweden and Finland decide to heed it or not, is their own problem.
Any sane Country knows that it is disadvantageous, especially if you are facing threats from multiple Nations, including America, to start another War when the "Threat is not as imminent" ....... unlike the case with Ukraine.

Even America "took steps" to reduce its number of Enemies, when this War started!
For example:
- America which has put Turkey under sanctions (Sweden and Finland also did at the same time) since early last year, decided that it is not in its interest, to make Turkey an Enemy at this point, otherwise it will side with Russia! America quickly reversed all its sanctions on Turkey! It even decided to SELL the F-35 Fighter Jets it said it would not sell to Turkey before (they built it together, Turkey invested over $5Billion, Man-Power and Software into it but America just "kicked them out" because they bought Russian S-4000 Missiles!)
Now, America is the one begging Turkey. You see why it is not just only Russia that knows it limits? undecided grin

- Venezuela, with the largest Oil Reserve in the World, was reduced to a poor Country, due to American Sanctions on its Oil.
It cannot Sell its oil to anyone, America also sieved its Foreign Reserve!
But due to this Russia/Ukraine War, leading to shortage of Energy World Wide, America went abegging to Venezuela and is urging it to ramp up and start exporting Oil to "American Allies" in Europe! grin grin
Na so, "Strong-Man" take calm down to small Venezuela. undecided Why should Russia be different?

The list is endless. Even to test its Hypersonic Missile whose Tests was already scheduled before the War started and it was to take place TWO WEEKS after the War started, America POSTPONED the Test (It just did it last Monday!) because, according to it, it does not want to spook Russia and make it think it was launching a Missile at it, so that Russia will not go and RETALLIATE for something that was not intended.
That is America using its brain and "calming down" before it regrets its action.

So, for all those gloating here about Russia not invading Sweden or Finland because they applied to join NATO, sounds "somehow" to me.
I will think that we should be more objective than this, if we want to venture into discussing International Issues that are critical to everybody/
It this was in the "Romance Section" and we are catching cruise, l wont mind at all but we are talking about "WAR, Nuclear Powered Countries, Hundreds of thousands of Lives and Destinies at Stake, etc.

NB: The above are just my Opinion, for Academic Purposes only, l have No Horse in this Race.
You don't need to educate people for free let it slide..

Everyone is entitled to their opinions until reality sets in..
On nairaland i have learnt to read, laugh and ignore..
Repeat same over time.
Allow whatever anyone belives to guide them until reality sets in

Was this azov surrendering now aren't the ones that some posters said thier bunker was untouchable and they can't surrender?

What happened today?
Some may say it's because of food supply, medication and the rest but if you follow up well, you will notice the more they kept being bomb the more thier ventilation and bunker heats up..
Just allow everyone with thier belives..
Time solves it all..

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Re: Putin Signals Acceptance Of Finland, Sweden Joining NATO by Elliotwaveforec: 7:50am On May 20, 2022
No money to replenish weaponry; economic sanctions biting hard.
Re: Putin Signals Acceptance Of Finland, Sweden Joining NATO by Igbofam2: 7:51am On May 20, 2022
Amayabor1:


Lol. So if Finland and Sweden joins NATO tomorrow, Putin will stop strategic missiles from being placed in countries that are now in NATO? Una too funny Sha

But he was raking before that there will be consequences if Finland and Sweden join Nato. What changed?

For your information, any NATO country can house Nato's strategic weapons. If Sweden and Finland joins NATO tomorrow, NATO will place strategic weapons in Finland and Sweden and nothing Russia can do about it.

Russia can't stop Finland and Sweden from joining Nato but it is after they join that Russia will stop NATO from deploying weapons in Finland and Sweden. Una too funny abeg grin

They clearly do not have any iota of sense
Re: Putin Signals Acceptance Of Finland, Sweden Joining NATO by victorv12(m): 7:51am On May 20, 2022
OBALOLA55:
SARKINYARKI HELP US TAG YOUR FELLOW RUSSIAN BOTS

You're a fool. Putin is only trying to re-strategize. How many war does he want to fight at once?

"Appear weak when you're strong, and strong when you're weak." - Sun Tzu

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Re: Putin Signals Acceptance Of Finland, Sweden Joining NATO by Excuzeme: 7:52am On May 20, 2022
Igbofam2:
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Another lengthy yet senseless post


People who have something Upstairs, will say it, those who dont, will resort to abuse and Insult.
I will ignore you henceforth. Seems you are IRREDEEMABLE.
undecided

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Re: Putin Signals Acceptance Of Finland, Sweden Joining NATO by Igbofam2: 7:53am On May 20, 2022
[s]
Excuzeme:



People who have something Upstairs, will say it, those who dont, will resort to abuse and Insult.
I will ignore you henceforth. Seems you are IRREDEEMABLE.
undecided
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Still an irredeemably senseless post undecided

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Re: Putin Signals Acceptance Of Finland, Sweden Joining NATO by Excuzeme: 7:56am On May 20, 2022
victorv12:


You're a fool. Putin is only trying to re-strategize. How many war does he want to fight at once?

"Appear weak when you're strong, and strong when you're weak." - Sun Tzu


Please, dont use foul words/Insults on those with a different Opinion to yours, No Matter how you feel about their Post.
We can all have a good discussion without resorting to abusing each other.

No one here has shook the hands of Putin or Zelensky..... why should we insult ourselves over them?
grin

I read that Book too! Very Inspiring

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Re: Putin Signals Acceptance Of Finland, Sweden Joining NATO by Igbofam2: 7:56am On May 20, 2022
victorv12:


You're a fool. Putin is only trying to re-strategize. How many war does he want to fight at once?

"Appear weak when you're strong, and strong when you're weak." - Sun Tzu




Lmao cheesy

Re-strategize after first threatening them of TERRIBLE CONSEQUENCES if they actually joined?

You Putin bots never cease to amaze me.

So in essence you are saying Putin was stupid to have said that first since he is now swallowing his own vomit smiley

Why must he always resort to aggression first before Diplomacy if he isn't actually stupid?

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Re: Putin Signals Acceptance Of Finland, Sweden Joining NATO by hermesprogidy(m): 7:57am On May 20, 2022
Excuzeme:



Habba!
Stop using Insults and foul language to convey whatever you want to say!
It does not show maturity or good Upbringing.

You have the Right to air your own Opinion, just like anyone here,
You dont have to accept what those on the other side say, and they dont have to accept yours
but we all deserve a "Healthy Space" where we can learn from each other, free of these sort of Insults and Abuses that undermine whatever you are saying.
I am certain you have more important things to say, so why waste time on Insults, instead of saying those things, so other people can learn from you?

There are lot of difference between Finland/Sweden and Ukraine:
1) Russia and Ukraine are in a border dispute over Crimea, Russia does not have a border dispute with Sweden/Finland.
With Ukraine in NATO, that military Group HAS TO PHYSICALLY fight on behalf of Ukraine! That is why the Article of Association says "You cant join NATO (or even the E.U), if you are currently engage in a War with another country".

2) Sweden/Finland have friendly Relations with Russia, they have Non-Aggression treaties, Russia does not have that with Ukraine.

3) Ukraine is trying to secretly develop Nuclear Weapons. Just like Israel will not accept its neighbor, Iran develop Nuclear Weapons (Existential threats) and it still bombed them last Weekend), Russia will not allow Ukraine to develop a Nuclear bomb.
Sweden and Finland have No Interest in the Nuclear Bomb.

4) Ukraine was also developing Chemical and Biological Weapons. Finland and Sweden are not.
Russia raided the WMD Laboratories in Ukraine (they tried to destroy as much of it as possible), sieved the items and documents and presented them to the UN Security Council.
(I can bet, 90% of People commenting here have not read that Report, I have read it and have a Copy).

So, in conclusion, We cant compare Sweden/Finland joining NATO, to Ukraine trying to joing NATO, they are a World apart, when it comes to the Threat it posses to Russia.
Every Country with the Muscle to Act, will do so, if the action of its Neighbor threatens its Security.


I know a lot of People dont appreciate Russia, we dont appreciate the stability they are bringing to the table, when it comes to "Geo-Balance" in the World Order. Just like we never appreciated the USSR until it was imploded by America and then we all saw ho America was matching and inflicting War on one country after another, with No one to challenge its hegemony. But it was too late, USSR was gone already. undecided

"Majority of the Masses cannot be trusted to take the right decisions that is best for them, that is why we have "Government and Leaders", let us just hope they are not like the Nigerians Leaders/Government. grin


NB: No Offense, l will be glad to read your own OPINION as well, just let it be devoid of Abuses/Insults.
We are all learning from each other.
Finland shares a border with Russia. Ukraine was the nuclear and industrial hub of USSR, they have nuclear power. Where do you think Chernobyl is located?
The matter is simple, Putin is realizing he has bitten more than he can chew and is slowly back tracking to save face. Wars are won by alliance. Enough of the sugar coating.

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Re: Putin Signals Acceptance Of Finland, Sweden Joining NATO by LordVarys1: 8:00am On May 20, 2022
I'm shocked Putin idiots ran very far from this thread. Useless people grin

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Re: Putin Signals Acceptance Of Finland, Sweden Joining NATO by Benny6944: 8:00am On May 20, 2022
Russia will soon join NATO

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Re: Putin Signals Acceptance Of Finland, Sweden Joining NATO by hotseat: 8:03am On May 20, 2022
The scales are beginning to fall off madman Putin's eyes!



I, including several other political analysts, pointed out at the onset that the thoughtless, senseless, unprovoked, bloody and delusional invasion of the sovereign state of Ukraine was bound to end in at least a Pyrrhic victory for Russia, his Nairaland Forum evil hailers were blinded by their hate for the the USA, the ultimate champion of world politics and military supremo, that madman Putin would bring mother earth to an abrupt end with the deployment of his nuclear arsenals.




Putin is simply living a delusional anachronistic euphoria of the USSR era which is no longer tenable in modern day political realities.




After threatening both Sweden and Finland of any attempt at joining NATO, now resort to a mere face saving issuance of feeble conditionalities.




See how the cookie crumbles!

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Re: Putin Signals Acceptance Of Finland, Sweden Joining NATO by Saint1477(m): 8:05am On May 20, 2022
Truly Russia Might may just be a myth
Re: Putin Signals Acceptance Of Finland, Sweden Joining NATO by REALretep(m): 8:06am On May 20, 2022
MMWandali:
Putin has been technically defeated

He probably can't do anything now

Sorry Kremlin
True
It's completely impossible for him to attack 3 countries at the same time.
He's completely defeated. He cannot stop NATO expansion. NATO is a moving train

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Re: Putin Signals Acceptance Of Finland, Sweden Joining NATO by Herostar24: 8:08am On May 20, 2022
YOU ARE A MAN WITH INTELLECTUAL SAGACITY, MORE OIL ON YOUR HEAD:

Excuzeme:
Problem with most Nigerians is that they lack Analytical Skills or maybe they are just too lazy to seek information and would just make ignorant unfounded statements that lack any form of credit!

In Ukraine, the War is still ongoing and Ukrainian Officials just confirmed that "Russia is taking Village and Village, though their advance is slow but Certain". I have quoted it Verbatim.
Does that sound like Russia is tired/defeated?

Yesterday, Russia paraded about 1700 Ukrainian Special Forces, (Battalion 34th and 36th) and the "crack" Azov Battalions that it Captured and they SURRENDERED. It was on many TV Stations, (including our own ARISE NEWS) though CNN refuse to carry it so that it can continue to fool Americans that Ukraine is "fighting and advancing" against Russia. grin
Does that sound like a defeated or tired Army?

About HALF of all GAZPROM Customers (European Countries that put Sanctions on Russian Energy) have OPENED RUBLE Bank Accounts as of today! Italy just said it would take far longer than it thought, to win itself off Russian Energy (meaning, paying in Ruble is Game! grin ).
Does that look like a Russia that is crippled and tired?

The Russian Currency has gained FIVE TIMES its Pre-War Value, as of TODAY and still increasing, while Europe and America are steeped in spiraling Inflation, due to High Energy and Food Costs! Even Baby Food is in Shortage in America, as of Today. grin grin
Does that sound like a Russia whose Economy is destroyed?

MrBiggs (of America) Business Franchise in Russia has just been BOUGHT OVER by a Russian, other Fast Foods like KFC to follow.
Does that look like Russia facing food Shortages or Economy suffering?

On Sweden and Finland:
Truth is, Russia is in a War with over "30 Countries" and it is still STANDING. It deserves respect joor.
As long as all these Countries, are supplying Weapons to Ukraine, training Ukrainian Soldiers to use them, Discretely Supplying "Contract Soldiers and Mercenaries" to Ukraine, to fight Russia, Supplying Military Intelligence to Ukraine (Troop and Weapons Movement, target Coordinates for Missiles, etc), ALL those over THIRTY COUNTRIES are in a "Pseudo War" with Russia.
It does not matter what anyone thinks or says, the FACTS is what l have stated above., Happy about it or not, is immaterial.
"Weapons and Intelligence" is what wins War of the 21st Century, not the number of Troops you station somewhere, that can be wiped out with a Missile.

No one expects Russia to start another War with Sweden, they have No Existing Dispute at the Moment.
America and Europe (NATO) are just trying to "drag" everyone around Russia into their "Orbit of Control", so it can give them advantage over Russia.
Not one of these Countries ON IT OWN, can face Russia, that is why they need to gang-Up
.

Russia has done what it needs to do and what it always do: Lay Down the WARNING! Whether Sweden and Finland decide to heed it or not, is their own problem.
Any sane Country knows that it is disadvantageous, especially if you are facing threats from multiple Nations, including America, to start another War when the "Threat is not as imminent" ....... unlike the case with Ukraine.

Even America "took steps" to reduce its number of Enemies, when this War started!
For example:
- America which has put Turkey under sanctions (Sweden and Finland also did at the same time) since early last year, decided that it is not in its interest, to make Turkey an Enemy at this point, otherwise it will side with Russia! America quickly reversed all its sanctions on Turkey! It even decided to SELL the F-35 Fighter Jets it said it would not sell to Turkey before (they built it together, Turkey invested over $5Billion, Man-Power and Software into it but America just "kicked them out" because they bought Russian S-4000 Missiles!)
Now, America is the one begging Turkey. You see why it is not just only Russia that knows it limits? undecided grin

- Venezuela, with the largest Oil Reserve in the World, was reduced to a poor Country, due to American Sanctions on its Oil.
It cannot Sell its oil to anyone, America also sieved its Foreign Reserve!
But due to this Russia/Ukraine War, leading to shortage of Energy World Wide, America went abegging to Venezuela and is urging it to ramp up and start exporting Oil to "American Allies" in Europe! grin grin
Na so, "Strong-Man" take calm down to small Venezuela. undecided Why should Russia be different?

The list is endless. Even to test its Hypersonic Missile whose Tests was already scheduled before the War started and it was to take place TWO WEEKS after the War started, America POSTPONED the Test (It just did it last Monday!) because, according to it, it does not want to spook Russia and make it think it was launching a Missile at it, so that Russia will not go and RETALLIATE for something that was not intended.
That is America using its brain and "calming down" before it regrets its action.

So, for all those gloating here about Russia not invading Sweden or Finland because they applied to join NATO, sounds "somehow" to me.
I will think that we should be more objective than this, if we want to venture into discussing International Issues that are critical to everybody/
It this was in the "Romance Section" and we are catching cruise, l wont mind at all but we are talking about "WAR, Nuclear Powered Countries, Hundreds of thousands of Lives and Destinies at Stake, etc.

NB: The above are just my Opinion, for Academic Purposes only, l have No Horse in this Race.
Re: Putin Signals Acceptance Of Finland, Sweden Joining NATO by InoGetJoy: 8:10am On May 20, 2022
Putin should form a military alliance with China, India and other countries and then they'll build bases in Cuba and other countries near the US.
Re: Putin Signals Acceptance Of Finland, Sweden Joining NATO by Herostar24: 8:11am On May 20, 2022
My brother, don be angry, are you these dumb and didn't grab anything truth from EXCUSEME obvious startegic analysis, whose knows how ur ancestors will be weeping in underworld 4u right now. Saying our son, buy the truth n sell it not.

Igbofam2:
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Another lengthy yet senseless post
Re: Putin Signals Acceptance Of Finland, Sweden Joining NATO by Igbofam2: 8:12am On May 20, 2022
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Herostar24:
My brother, don be angry, are you these dumb and didn't grab anything truth from EXCUSEME obvious startegic analysis, whose knows how ur ancestors will be weeping in underworld 4u right now. Saying our son, buy the truth n sell it not.

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Even more senselessness in a post

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Re: Putin Signals Acceptance Of Finland, Sweden Joining NATO by InoGetJoy: 8:14am On May 20, 2022
Excuzeme:
Problem with most Nigerians is that they lack Analytical Skills or maybe they are just too lazy to seek information and would just make ignorant unfounded statements that lack any form of credit!

In Ukraine, the War is still ongoing and Ukrainian Officials just confirmed that "Russia is taking Village and Village, though their advance is slow but Certain". I have quoted it Verbatim.
Does that sound like Russia is tired/defeated?

Yesterday, Russia paraded about 1700 Ukrainian Special Forces, (Battalion 34th and 36th) and the "crack" Azov Battalions that it Captured and they SURRENDERED. It was on many TV Stations, (including our own ARISE NEWS) though CNN refuse to carry it so that it can continue to fool Americans that Ukraine is "fighting and advancing" against Russia. grin
Does that sound like a defeated or tired Army?

About HALF of all GAZPROM Customers (European Countries that put Sanctions on Russian Energy) have OPENED RUBLE Bank Accounts as of today! Italy just said it would take far longer than it thought, to win itself off Russian Energy (meaning, paying in Ruble is Game! grin ).
Does that look like a Russia that is crippled and tired?

The Russian Currency has gained FIVE TIMES its Pre-War Value, as of TODAY and still increasing, while Europe and America are steeped in spiraling Inflation, due to High Energy and Food Costs! Even Baby Food is in Shortage in America, as of Today. grin grin
Does that sound like a Russia whose Economy is destroyed?

MrBiggs (of America) Business Franchise in Russia has just been BOUGHT OVER by a Russian, other Fast Foods like KFC to follow.
Does that look like Russia facing food Shortages or Economy suffering?

On Sweden and Finland:
Truth is, Russia is in a War with over "30 Countries" and it is still STANDING. It deserves respect joor.
As long as all these Countries, are supplying Weapons to Ukraine, training Ukrainian Soldiers to use them, Discretely Supplying "Contract Soldiers and Mercenaries" to Ukraine, to fight Russia, Supplying Military Intelligence to Ukraine (Troop and Weapons Movement, target Coordinates for Missiles, etc), ALL those over THIRTY COUNTRIES are in a "Pseudo War" with Russia.
It does not matter what anyone thinks or says, the FACTS is what l have stated above., Happy about it or not, is immaterial.
"Weapons and Intelligence" is what wins War of the 21st Century, not the number of Troops you station somewhere, that can be wiped out with a Missile.

No one expects Russia to start another War with Sweden, they have No Existing Dispute at the Moment.
America and Europe (NATO) are just trying to "drag" everyone around Russia into their "Orbit of Control", so it can give them advantage over Russia.
Not one of these Countries ON IT OWN, can face Russia, that is why they need to gang-Up
.

Russia has done what it needs to do and what it always do: Lay Down the WARNING! Whether Sweden and Finland decide to heed it or not, is their own problem.
Any sane Country knows that it is disadvantageous, especially if you are facing threats from multiple Nations, including America, to start another War when the "Threat is not as imminent" ....... unlike the case with Ukraine.

Even America "took steps" to reduce its number of Enemies, when this War started!
For example:
- America which has put Turkey under sanctions (Sweden and Finland also did at the same time) since early last year, decided that it is not in its interest, to make Turkey an Enemy at this point, otherwise it will side with Russia! America quickly reversed all its sanctions on Turkey! It even decided to SELL the F-35 Fighter Jets it said it would not sell to Turkey before (they built it together, Turkey invested over $5Billion, Man-Power and Software into it but America just "kicked them out" because they bought Russian S-4000 Missiles!)
Now, America is the one begging Turkey. You see why it is not just only Russia that knows it limits? undecided grin

- Venezuela, with the largest Oil Reserve in the World, was reduced to a poor Country, due to American Sanctions on its Oil.
It cannot Sell its oil to anyone, America also sieved its Foreign Reserve!
But due to this Russia/Ukraine War, leading to shortage of Energy World Wide, America went abegging to Venezuela and is urging it to ramp up and start exporting Oil to "American Allies" in Europe! grin grin
Na so, "Strong-Man" take calm down to small Venezuela. undecided Why should Russia be different?

The list is endless. Even to test its Hypersonic Missile whose Tests was already scheduled before the War started and it was to take place TWO WEEKS after the War started, America POSTPONED the Test (It just did it last Monday!) because, according to it, it does not want to spook Russia and make it think it was launching a Missile at it, so that Russia will not go and RETALLIATE for something that was not intended.
That is America using its brain and "calming down" before it regrets its action.

So, for all those gloating here about Russia not invading Sweden or Finland because they applied to join NATO, sounds "somehow" to me.
I will think that we should be more objective than this, if we want to venture into discussing International Issues that are critical to everybody/
It this was in the "Romance Section" and we are catching cruise, l wont mind at all but we are talking about "WAR, Nuclear Powered Countries, Hundreds of thousands of Lives and Destinies at Stake, etc.

NB: The above are just my Opinion, for Academic Purposes only, l have No Horse in this Race.
Spoken as a true wise man. Most people on this forum seem to lack objectivity; they refuse to think for themselves and just go with whatever Western news agencies tell them

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Re: Putin Signals Acceptance Of Finland, Sweden Joining NATO by soloehis(m): 8:14am On May 20, 2022
Unfortunately he has used Ukraine as a sacrificial lamb..

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