alabo1:


Go and read you will not. Finland and Sweden in NATO pose no threat unless strategic missiles are deployed there. Ukraine poses a major threat due to its geographical location and Russian previous experiences with invasions. You Western BOTS will never read only get your information from CNN

Excuzeme:


You are right, Putin wants to remove Zelensky and replace him with a more sensible (in my own opinion) President.
One Russian "Puppet" President was replaced by another American "Puppet" President and Putin is making an attempt to replace the American "Puppet" President again.

I hope we have not forgotten so soon, that President Yanukovych of Ukraine, was removed in 2014,by these same Neo-Nazi Azorv Battalion (Being one of its "objective" in this War, Russia has now captured them and locked them up in a detention Camp, pending prosecution!), with the help of American CIA, just because he said Ukraine will not be an Enemy to Russia.

Unfortunately, Putin's Russia did not envisage that Europe, NATO and America will use Ukraine as a front, to fight him.
Left to Russia Vs. Ukraine alone, "Game Over", a long time ago.

I also blame Russia for their "indecisiveness", allowing historical emotions to color their decision-making, in a War.
"A half-killed Enemy is very dangerous", do not fight if you can avoid it but if you chose to fight, it should be decisive, total and swift.

victorv12:


You're a fool. Putin is only trying to re-strategize. How many war does he want to fight at once?

"Appear weak when you're strong, and strong when you're weak." - Sun Tzu

Excuzeme:



People who have something Upstairs, will say it, those who dont, will resort to abuse and Insult.
I will ignore you henceforth. Seems you are IRREDEEMABLE.

Igbofam2:
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Even more senselessness in a post

InoGetJoy:

Sometimes I wonder why you guys keep cheering NATO as if you have anything to gain from them. Do you guys even realize that the Boko Haram issue we're currently having in Nigeria is as a result of NATO's actions in Libya?
Damn!

Excuzeme:


You are right, Putin wants to remove Zelensky and replace him with a more sensible (in my own opinion) President.
One Russian "Puppet" President was replaced by another American "Puppet" President and Putin is making an attempt to replace the American "Puppet" President again.

I hope we have not forgotten so soon, that President Yanukovych of Ukraine, was removed in 2014,by these same Neo-Nazi Azorv Battalion (Being one of its "objective" in this War, Russia has now captured them and locked them up in a detention Camp, pending prosecution!), with the help of American CIA, just because he said Ukraine will not be an Enemy to Russia.

Unfortunately, Putin's Russia did not envisage that Europe, NATO and America will use Ukraine as a front, to fight him.
Left to Russia Vs. Ukraine alone, "Game Over", a long time ago.

I also blame Russia for their "indecisiveness", allowing historical emotions to color their decision-making, in a War.
"A half-killed Enemy is very dangerous", do not fight if you can avoid it but if you chose to fight, it should be decisive, total and swift.

Kelvin3476:
ANOTHER SHAMELESS PUTARD WITH THEIR USUALL SENSELESS QUOTE.. UR DADDY PUTIN THAT U WERE LICKING HIS DIRTY ASS SAID THAT IT WILL BE A GRAVE MISTAKE IF THOSE TWO JOINS NATO. DID HE MENTION ANYWHERE THAT HE WOULD ONLY ALLOW THEM IF THEY REJECT NUCLEAR WEAPONS ? U PUTARDS FORGOT HOW U WERE JUBILITING 6 HEARING THE NEWS THAT IT WILL BE A GRAVE MISTAKE FOR THEM. LAS LAS UNA EYES DN CLEAR.

Rebelutionary:

So you believe in your heart of heart that a base wont be setup in these countries in the long run? U folks are just funny! Was there a base in Ukraine before Russia invaded it?

You join NATO, your country will be a base! Its not a matter of IF but WHEN, if not why the paranoia from Russia with Ukraine wanting to join NATO.

If you think Ukraine wont join NATO then u dont know zilch about what the west will do to Russia...

Russia is a test case to show emerging powers like China what the west can do to them if they decide to bite more than they can chew!

Demolakay:

Nonsense talk! do u knw if Russia purposely wanted to discard some of it Soviet union weapons? or did u nt knw most of d weapons used in war were mostly Soviet era models.Putin can Nva stop d two countries frm joining NATO,bt he can influence deir terms of agreement, which he is already doing.Let Dem set up NATO bases in dose countries,ND Russia will definitely respond.If Russia is weak,why is d USA ND NATO, taking a backward policy towards d war in Ukraine.If Russia is weak,ND still fighting to take territories in Ukraine, NATO should attack nw,it will b easy to defeat Russia,But dey refuse,because dey knw wat u don't knw.D only effect of d war on Russia,are d numerous sanctions.Dats all!

Excuzeme:


Finland Sharing Border with Ukraine, is the only thig they have "in-Common" with Ukraine, aside that, they are a different situation.
What do "Alliance" provide in a War? Weapons, Intelligence and at times, Boots. That is what NATO is providing to Ukraine.

I agree with you, Ukraine was an Industrial Hub in the former USSR, it is also "one of" their Nuclear Sites (Chernobyl and one other one) but there are many more other sites in the former USSR, which are now in Russia.
Odessa in Ukraine, is also a major Maritime Hub if USSR.

Russia is "back-tracking" on WHAT? To attack Finland?
Russia NEVER PROMISED to attack Finland or Sweden if they join NATO.

But like l pointed out, "re-assessing the situation and taking the best decision, even if that means changing your earlier decision", is not the exclusive of Russia alone, America has done it a lot of times, within the last few weeks, and it was related to the Russia-Ukraine War.

Even America reversed itself in Afghanistan, when the situation changed hand , why is Russia being crucified for taking the best position, in matters that affected it.

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Truthisbittte10:
if you want to help him do so and if you can't look away.

slivertongue:
Russia pretending to be USSR. Very soon Russia eyes go clear

kerry57:

What a maopic assessment, Russia is discarding Soviet weapons and at the same time discarding the lives of their numerous soildiers that have died in the war abi? The west and NATO cannot just wake up and go to war with Russia because of the consequences on the whole globe's economy as we are all already feeling and also the impact of nuclear war on the whole world. The west ihas diplomatically fought Russia through Ukraine and they have weakened their global strength which is what the west wanted. Keep day dreaming on Russian strength. Without the way in Ukraine, Finland and Sweden can't dear joining NATO but they can now because Russia is crawling and barking dog.

Terabyteck:
Let me gift your 200 MB

Andres28:
Putin USA na your mate, now go to Finland&sweden borders and bring back your fake nuke home with shame.

As always like for USA & Nato share for Russia and his afonja supporters.

Excuzeme:
Problem with most Nigerians is that they lack Analytical Skills or maybe they are just too lazy to seek information and would just make ignorant unfounded statements that lack any form of credit!

In Ukraine, the War is still ongoing and Ukrainian Officials just confirmed that "Russia is taking Village and Village, though their advance is slow but Certain". I have quoted it Verbatim.
Does that sound like Russia is tired/defeated?

Yesterday, Russia paraded about 1700 Ukrainian Special Forces, (Battalion 34th and 36th) and the "crack" Azov Battalions that it Captured and they SURRENDERED. It was on many TV Stations, (including our own ARISE NEWS) though CNN refuse to carry it so that it can continue to fool Americans that Ukraine is "fighting and advancing" against Russia.
Does that sound like a defeated or tired Army?

About HALF of all GAZPROM Customers (European Countries that put Sanctions on Russian Energy) have OPENED RUBLE Bank Accounts as of today! Italy just said it would take far longer than it thought, to win itself off Russian Energy (meaning, paying in Ruble is Game! ).
Does that look like a Russia that is crippled and tired?

The Russian Currency has gained FIVE TIMES its Pre-War Value, as of TODAY and still increasing, while Europe and America are steeped in spiraling Inflation, due to High Energy and Food Costs! Even Baby Food is in Shortage in America, as of Today.
Does that sound like a Russia whose Economy is destroyed?

MrBiggs (of America) Business Franchise in Russia has just been BOUGHT OVER by a Russian, other Fast Foods like KFC to follow.
Does that look like Russia facing food Shortages or Economy suffering?

On Sweden and Finland:
Truth is, Russia is in a War with over "30 Countries" and it is still STANDING. It deserves respect joor.
As long as all these Countries, are supplying Weapons to Ukraine, training Ukrainian Soldiers to use them, Discretely Supplying "Contract Soldiers and Mercenaries" to Ukraine, to fight Russia, Supplying Military Intelligence to Ukraine (Troop and Weapons Movement, target Coordinates for Missiles, etc), ALL those over THIRTY COUNTRIES are in a "Pseudo War" with Russia.
It does not matter what anyone thinks or says, the FACTS is what l have stated above., Happy about it or not, is immaterial.
"Weapons and Intelligence" is what wins War of the 21st Century, not the number of Troops you station somewhere, that can be wiped out with a Missile.

No one expects Russia to start another War with Sweden, they have No Existing Dispute at the Moment.
America and Europe (NATO) are just trying to "drag" everyone around Russia into their "Orbit of Control", so it can give them advantage over Russia.
Not one of these Countries ON IT OWN, can face Russia, that is why they need to gang-Up.

Russia has done what it needs to do and what it always do: Lay Down the WARNING! Whether Sweden and Finland decide to heed it or not, is their own problem.
Any sane Country knows that it is disadvantageous, especially if you are facing threats from multiple Nations, including America, to start another War when the "Threat is not as imminent" ....... unlike the case with Ukraine.

Even America "took steps" to reduce its number of Enemies, when this War started!
For example:
- America which has put Turkey under sanctions (Sweden and Finland also did at the same time) since early last year, decided that it is not in its interest, to make Turkey an Enemy at this point, otherwise it will side with Russia! America quickly reversed all its sanctions on Turkey! It even decided to SELL the F-35 Fighter Jets it said it would not sell to Turkey before (they built it together, Turkey invested over $5Billion, Man-Power and Software into it but America just "kicked them out" because they bought Russian S-4000 Missiles!)
Now, America is the one begging Turkey. You see why it is not just only Russia that knows it limits?

- Venezuela, with the largest Oil Reserve in the World, was reduced to a poor Country, due to American Sanctions on its Oil.
It cannot Sell its oil to anyone, America also sieved its Foreign Reserve!
But due to this Russia/Ukraine War, leading to shortage of Energy World Wide, America went abegging to Venezuela and is urging it to ramp up and start exporting Oil to "American Allies" in Europe!
Na so, "Strong-Man" take calm down to small Venezuela. Why should Russia be different?

The list is endless. Even to test its Hypersonic Missile whose Tests was already scheduled before the War started and it was to take place TWO WEEKS after the War started, America POSTPONED the Test (It just did it last Monday!) because, according to it, it does not want to spook Russia and make it think it was launching a Missile at it, so that Russia will not go and RETALLIATE for something that was not intended.
That is America using its brain and "calming down" before it regrets its action.

So, for all those gloating here about Russia not invading Sweden or Finland because they applied to join NATO, sounds "somehow" to me.
I will think that we should be more objective than this, if we want to venture into discussing International Issues that are critical to everybody/
It this was in the "Romance Section" and we are catching cruise, l wont mind at all but we are talking about "WAR, Nuclear Powered Countries, Hundreds of thousands of Lives and Destinies at Stake, etc.

NB: The above are just my Opinion, for Academic Purposes only, l have No Horse in this Race.

bakar007:


You funny well well, wetin west fit do china , oga go research the Korea war begin coming here to type , the west cannot go to war with China nor Russia , they can only fight a proxy like what we have in Ukraine. Again Ukraine joining NATO was a total no no for Russia but for military and historic reasons , no Russia speaking region in Finland nor Sweden , UKRAINE is a massive country that share massive border with Russia , the issues of Crimea among Donbass issues makes it a no no .

mightyhaze:
Reminds one of agent Malik and his mob. in some of the JHC novels and then the Nick Carter series. Very hard,..ruthlessly efficient KGB agents..

I guess modern technologies and spy techniques have taken all the shine nowadays

salem1996:


Nawa for una for this forum. Person go just read something and jump to debate without thinking. Although is not your fault, Nairaland's news always come either 3 or 5 days later after something happened in most cases.

Putin has never stopped any nation from joining Nato, his point is, make sure the Nato you are joining don't post any threat to Rusia by extending their weapon stations there. That is exactly what Zelensky wanted to allow the Nato group to do and Putin invaded.

Avoid reading news on Nairaland and believe them especially news that sparks debates because the OP will always filter the news to suit his view. That was how someone posted a news about Rusian victory that day and edited the news as if he was there when Rusia won. I mostly come to Nairaland for the fun of it, but I hardly believe the news I read.

we all have our options sha

Rebelutionary:

This is the 21st century and wars are not fought like the 1940s...its more brain work than legwork. When Russia invaded Ukraine you and your cousins told us they will walk over Ukraine, you know how far!

Atleast you agree that they can pull a proxy war on China with a definite achievable objective. For China, they have Taiwan as bait but they have refused to chew on it because they know what you don't know! This is the future of war and Russia is learning the hard way after all the empty threats.

Russia chewed on Ukraine and here we are today with not a single Russian objective met and in the case of Ukraine, Russia just helped them achieve it with ease-pushing Finland and Sweden into NATO and EXPANDING their presence at the Russian border. Read that again...this doubles the border presence equivalent to border size of Ukraine! You will think Russians who are masters at chess would know better!

So what are you saying? Remind us why Russia invaded Ukraine? You see the emptiness of your position?

The west needs to breathe down Russias neck, and they dont care whether its in Donbass, Russian speaking or anywhere! They have got it!

For as long as Russia can't install their own puppet as President of Ukraine, Ukraine will ALWAYS be a threat to Russia and a willing ally of the West, NATO member or not!

Chew on that!

goodheart01:


And why do u guys keep cheering Putin as if u have something to gain from him if not only to lick his ass. Some of u even claim “Mother Russia” imagine

REALretep:
I'm not cheering NATO. I only stated my opinion on the matter.
But I'm definitely not in support of unnecessary destruction of lives and livelihood

ExudeLoveToAll:


It's not that easy, it's easier for those with great economic alliance to form military alliance than those without.

Irrespective how China and US banter each other go check their trade you will understand why US still has some leverage over China. Same applies to India and all the countries close to the US as you so asserted.

See how much US aid is heading to Ukrain, 40 billion dollars in its way there. Can Russia support her allies with such humongous figures? The best bet for Russia is to have military pact with nation's they have economic influence over, unfortunately those nation's are weak militarily. China is their best option but those guys take their economic growth as top priority above any other thing, anything that will lead to economic decline China loathes it with passion.

The USSR regime when they were among the economic super power is gone , it takes a lot of money to pull good military pact.

ComputerOperato:

You are a real man Sir.
The novel is "A whiff of money" by James Hadley Chase.
One of the best. Still have soft copy.

Highman56:
useless people.una kill urselves with ur hands.Bokoharam was born from the north not libya

goaldynman:


You are a liar! Boko haram was birthed and spoonfed by you Fulani and hawusa headslammers!

We were not born yesterday for you to attempt to re-write history and deceive us!!

We still vividly remember- "ATTACK ON BOKO HARAM IS AN ATTACK ON THE NORTH"

InoGetJoy:


In case you don't know, the destabilization of Libya by the US led to a vacuum in power in that country. That lack of control allowed terrorist groups to grow. The US destroyed Libyan economy, infrastructure, military. Go and google about Libya before the US invasion, they were one of the best countries in Africa. The Islamic insurgents raided Libyan military armories around the country, started growing and, the seeming lack of control in Nigeria's far north border regions including Niger republic allowed them to get into Nigeria and they're now expanding.
Everything bears its genesis from the destruction of Libya by the US.
Also, do you know the real reason Gadaffi was killed was because he advocated for a unified currency of trade for Africa? He said African countries shouldn't be trading in USD, which doesn't improve our economy in any way, but that we should rather be trading in a new currency backed by the value of Gold. If that had pulled through, it'll get rid of the West's hegemony on Africa and it'll bring a great deal of advancement in African economy. US didn't like that at all, and so had to find excuses (aided by their media) to demonize gadaffi and murder him.

You could take out time and verify these facts

Terrence99:


By midnight, you dey beg. Your life is completely damaged.

Ever8090:
my brother, if you don't have to give him just pass. am not sure someone will like to beg if they have...times are hard, if you are not there, you won't understand bro...

bakar007:


Very funny person , oga Russia goal was to ensure the Donbass region get to their legitimate borders which today their 80% there.
Today Russia now has Kherson southern UKRAINE to link Crimea through the Mariupol route by road .
Odesa will be next , and UKRAINE is already cut off the Black sea .
And you say nothing achieved , I pity those wen dey watch Westen media.

The three photo I will upload below

1 . Map before Russia special military operations.

2. Map before the negotiations not to take over keiv.

3. Present Map.

Oga u say no progress lol