In this short video, Ukrainian AF hits Russian BTR-80 from a hand-held rocket launcher several times, but the BTR 80 showed an incredible ability to survive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFSNo2kpVd0

AbokiWithAttitu:
In this short video, Ukrainian AF hits Russian BTR-80 from a hand-held rocket launcher several times, but the BTR 80 showed an incredible ability to survive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFSNo2kpVd0

Your headline should have been " BTR was hit but it chested it and did not collect" your write up is correct though.

Kingpin1000:

Your headline should have been " BTR was hit but it chested it and did not collect" your write up is correct though.

Chested or collect, all I know is BTR was hit thrice.... That's where we get the wotowoto from

Next tomorrow them go go do special thanksgiving for church; thanking God for making NLaW & Javelin not available for UAF

Is BTR 80 a tank? What a dumb op

MangekyoAlt:
Is BTR 80 a tank? What a dumb op

the tank was hit twice by American mercs and the tank chested it unscathed.

MangekyoAlt:
Is BTR 80 a tank? What a dumb op

If BTR 80 is not a tank then what is it?

Svlla:


If BTR 80 is not a tank then what is it?

BTR 80's are IFV's not tanks.
There's a huge difference between a MBT and an IFV. Calling an IFV a tank is like calling a self propelled howitzer, or APC a tank, when there's clearly a huge difference between them and the capability and role they play in combat

MangekyoAlt:

BTR 80's are IFV's not tanks.
There's a huge difference between a MBT and an IFV. Calling an IFV a tank is like calling a self propelled howitzer, or APC a tank, when there's clearly a huge difference between them and the capability and role they play in combat

Don't get it twisted

Armoured personnel vehicles is a tank
Armoured Reconnaissance Vehicles is a tank
Armoured fighting vehicle is a tank
Main Battle tank tank is a tank

Tank definition in the military is broad

Even the BMPT Terminator 2 used in Severedonesk is a tank

So therefore, BTR Bronetransporter 80 is a tank

Whether it's a battle tank or a support tank like mine resistant and armoured protected vehicle

BMPT Terminator 2 for instance uses T72 MBT chassis

Svlla:


Don't get it twisted

Armoured personnel vehicles is a tank
Armoured Reconnaissance Vehicles is a tank
Armoured fighting vehicle is a tank
Main Battle tank tank is a tank

Tank definition in the military is broad

Even the BMPT Terminator 2 used in Severedonesk is a tank

So therefore, BTR Bronetransporter 80 is a tank

Whether it's a battle tank or a support tank like mine resistant and armoured protected vehicle

BMPT Terminator 2 for instance uses T72 MBT chassis

I'm not getting anything twisted bro.
Go and read the meaning of an IFV on wiki.
IFV's are more like APCS, but the difference is they are designed to both carry infantries into battlefields (like APC) and also provide support with their cannon.

For the BMNT terminator. I'm not sure what category to place that. It's a modernized MBT, designed for urban warfare, not fit carrying troops. It's like you don't even understand me.
IFV like APCS, have alot of space in them to accommodate troops. But unlike APC, they have cannons to support troops in combat.

Meanwhile, I expected you to make a little research before replying me. Please do before replying. Or I perhaps I should drop you a link. Start from here
https://www.forbes.com/sites/sebastienroblin/2020/11/25/this-is-not-a-tank-a-laypersons-guide-to-armored-fighting-vehicles/?sh=5760dc7e1831

Meanwhile, I'm currently busy ATM and typing hurriedly. I'll reply you properly later

MangekyoAlt:


I'm not getting anything twisted bro.
Go and read the meaning of an IFV on wiki.
IFV's are more like APCS, but the difference is they are designed to both carry infantries into battlefields (like APC) and also provide support with their cannon.

For the BMNT terminator. I'm not sure what category to place that. It's a modernized MBT, designed for urban warfare, not fit carrying troops. It's like you don't even understand me.
IFV like APCS, have alot of space in them to accommodate troops. But unlike APC, they have cannons to support troops in combat.

Meanwhile, I expected you to make a little research before replying me. Please do before replying. Or I perhaps I should drop you a link. Start from here
https://www.forbes.com/sites/sebastienroblin/2020/11/25/this-is-not-a-tank-a-laypersons-guide-to-armored-fighting-vehicles/?sh=5760dc7e1831

I dont know why people bring Forbes inside military matter

it's okay bro

You sha get my point

Op can call it tank

Go and read up the first tanks, invented by the British
They are more like Armoured personnel carriers

Tank in the broad sense is a mobile fortress.

If it is armoured and if it's mobile then it passes for a tank.

Not all IFV are tanks so I get your point
But all AFV,APC,MRAP are tanks

BTR80 in this case is a tank and has enough protection to withstand high explosive anti tank (HEAT) Projectiles

Svlla:


I dont know why people bring Forbes inside military matter

it's okay bro

You sha get my point

Op can call it tank

Go and read up the first tanks, invented by the British
They are more like Armoured personnel carriers

Tank in the broad sense is a mobile fortress.

If it is armoured and if it's mobile then it passes for a tank.

Not all IFV are tanks so I get your point
But all AFV,APC,MRAP are tanks

BTR80 in this case is a tank and has enough protection to withstand high explosive anti tank (HEAT) Projectiles

Arrogance would do you no good.
But I perhaps I made a huge mistake siting Forbes, which has proven to be an unreliable source for accurate info.
But the thing is, I could list you dozens of sources to back up my claim.
But I believe that should be left for later as on currently busy.

Meanwhile, just to add a few words before hitting the submit button.
an armoured combat vehicle is designed and equipped primarily to transport a combat infantry squad, and which is armed with an integral or organic cannon of at least 20 millimeters calibre and sometimes an antitank missile launcher - official UN description

With this description, it's easy to deduce and differentiate that If it carries infantry but has no heavy weapons, then its an APC. And If it carries infantry and has heavy weapons, then its an IFV. If it has heavy weapons but no infantry its an AFV (Generic Armored Fighting Vehicle), light tank, or Tank, as with the case of the terminator. The idea that all armored vehicles are tanks is a ridiculous assumption to make, honestly.

Meanwhile, this could be a worthwhile read if yooure willing to https://whitefleet.net/2015/12/01/military-vehicle-identification-guide-ground-vehicles/#:~:text=The%20main%20difference%20between%20the,Usually%20around%2020%2D30%20tons.

Go and read up the first tanks, invented by the British
They are more like Armoured personnel carriers

Drop a link, I'll go through in my spare time.

MangekyoAlt:


Arrogance would do you no good.
But I perhaps I made a huge mistake siting Forbes, which has proven to be an unreliable source for accurate info.
But the thing is, I could list you dozens of sources to back up my claim.
But I believe that should be left for later as on currently busy.

Meanwhile, just to add a few words before hitting the submit button.
an armoured combat vehicle is designed and equipped primarily to transport a combat infantry squad, and which is armed with an integral or organic cannon of at least 20 millimeters calibre and sometimes an antitank missile launcher - official UN description

With this description, it's easy to deduce and differentiate that If it carries infantry but has no heavy weapons, then its an APC. And If it carries infantry and has heavy weapons, then its an IFV. If it has heavy weapons but no infantry its an AFV (Generic Armored Fighting Vehicle), light tank, or Tank, as with the case of the terminator. The idea that all armored vehicles are tanks is a ridiculous assumption to make, honestly.

Meanwhile, this could be a worthwhile read if yooure willing to https://whitefleet.net/2015/12/01/military-vehicle-identification-guide-ground-vehicles/#:~:text=The%20main%20difference%20between%20the,Usually%20around%2020%2D30%20tons.


Drop a link, I'll go through in my spare time.

So let me ask you a simple what are heavy guns?

And does heavy guns alone qualify to categorize it as a tank?

Although, like I said earlier you're right.
But the term tank can be used in its broad term as regards the armoured protection

OP is not entirely wrong

I just gave an example of the AFV BMPT Terminator that is just a T72 MBT with the torrent of an BMPT

Svlla:


So let me ask you a simple what are heavy guns?

And does heavy guns alone qualify to categorize it as a tank?

What are heavy guns? Try to be specific.
Howitzers are heavy guns. Did you know that?

Ps when I say Howitzers, I don't mean self propelled. I mean mounted Howitzers as well as those fitted on armored trains. They're heavy guns.

MangekyoAlt:

What are heavy guns? Try to be specific.
Howitzers are heavy guns. Did you know that?

Ps when I say Howitzers, I don't mean self propelled. I mean mounted Howitzers as well as those fitted on armored trains. They're heavy guns.

Does that make howitzer a tank??

Relax a little, mahn. Tank is used in the broad sense

Modern tanks are more easy to classify than earlier made tanks

So, it's not just about the armament that makes a vehicle a tank but the armor too

Svlla:


Does that make howitzer a tank??

Relax a little man. Tank is used in the broad sense

Modern tanks are more easy to classify than earlier made tanks

So, it's not just about the armament that makes a vehicle a tank but the armor too

When I said Howitzers I thought I went on to specifically say mounted and not propelled?

You seem to be getting the wrong info.
Howitzers, like mortars and rocket launchers fall under the artillery category.

You asked me to give what a honestly think about a heavy gun. Well, mounted Howitzers are also guns. Should we categorize them as tanks?

Also, sure self propelled Howitzers are a bit like tanks in appearance, but unlike tanks, they lack thick armor, hence cannot carry out the function of a "tank". A tank is an armored vehicle, fitted with guns, to shoot high caliber shells. They are designed to take down other enemy tanks, as well as spearhead attacks.
Infantry fighting vehicles are extremely different. They are primarily transport vehicles, that can also "support" infantries in the battlefield, not spearhead attacks or destroy enemy tanks, like tanks are designed to.

If you say a tank is an IFV, or SPG, then you would agree that a car, a jeep and a truck are all the same? Since they're land based vehicles?

MangekyoAlt:


When I said Howitzers I thought I went on to specifically say mounted and not propelled?

You seem to be getting the wrong info.
Howitzers, like mortars and rocket launchers fall under the artillery category.

You asked me to give what a honestly think about a heavy gun. Well, mounted Howitzers are also guns. Should we categorize them as tanks?

Also, sure self propelled Howitzers are a bit like tanks in appearance, but unlike tanks, they lack thick armor, hence cannot carry out the function of a "tank". A tank is an armored vehicle, fitted with guns, to shoot high caliber shells. They are designed to take down other enemy tanks, as well as spearhead attacks.
Infantry fighting vehicles are extremely different. They are primarily transport vehicles, that can also "support" infantries in the battlefield, not spearhead attacks or destroy enemy tanks, like tanks are designed to.

If you say a tank is an IFV, or SPG, then you would agree that a car, a jeep and a truck are all the same? Since they're land based vehicles?

To be honest you're the one who's getting it wrong

You said earlier that AFV, IFV, APC and MRAP are not tanks, you also said the heavy guns is what makes a tank.

Inasmuch as I agree with you, Am telling you categorically that the OP is not entirely wrong and I will back it up

1. I mentioned the BMPT TERMINATOR as an AFV but also passes for a tank although not an MBT.

So let's get the difference clear

BMPT TERMINATOR 2 has the armament and armour to pass for a tank not an mbt. Like I said BMPT 2 is a T72 MBT with the torrent overhauled for a BMPT torrent

Now let's talk about classification;

Not all tanks are MBT

We have lots and lots of Light Tanks (LT), medium tanks (MT)

And there are AFV that can pass for tank
Example is the Korean K21 Light tank which is also an AFV with an overhauled torrent

I can keep listing AFV that have serves in MT and LT roles

So what are they Tanks or not Tanks?

Also K21 Light tank has an anti tank guided missile. Surprised?

Looking at it from the armor perspective then the Chinese ZTQ 15 export variant VT 5 is a tank or at least an LT

Now you talked about guns
Do you mean the 105mm shells is what qualify as a tank?

If so, then I can prove you wrong

The BMPT 2 has 4 (four) 9M120 Ataka missile launchers that fires 130mm missiles
Remember this is an AFV like you said and not a tank which has more firepower than the Russian T14 armata that fires 125mm from a smoothbore canon.


Let's talk about range

The BMPT 3 has an operational range of 550km which beats the almighty T14 armata MBT of 500km


So when we look at it from 3 perspective
Range, gun, and armor you can see that OP wasn't entirely wrong for passing a AFV for a tank

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