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Re: What Is The Fuss About Muslim/Muslim Ticket? by OsunOriginal: 3:03pm On Jun 13, 2022
GreyLaw:


You are not a Christian. And even if you were, you have zero knowledge about the existential realities in Nigeria.

Please go and sleep and let those who really bear the brunt of Fulani Herdsmen, Boko Haram, and all government endorsed atrocities speak.

How has the christian VP in the current administration helped? What did a christian president (OBJ) do about it? We don't need a christian or a muslim president to solve our problem. All we need is a leader who knows what it means and requires to lead a multi-religious entity like Nigeria, The person might even be an atheist or a buddist.

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Re: What Is The Fuss About Muslim/Muslim Ticket? by OsunOriginal: 3:07pm On Jun 13, 2022
GreyLaw:


They have been sent to numb the minds of people to their planned wickedness. Even the guys in the core North are not speaking boldly about this M-M ticket. Yet fools from the South try to push it down our throat.

Honest Muslims don't even want such a thing, but some stupid Christians don't mind. When Buhari appointed all his kinsmen to major positions and alloted all the arm-bearing agencies to be headed by Northerners these same self-deluded chaps clapped for him. We see the results. Now these goons have come again to push the narrative a step further.

So, it is all about rent-seeking after all? Using religion to secure selfish gains and then going on air to start talking about how one religion is more Godly than the other.

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Re: What Is The Fuss About Muslim/Muslim Ticket? by techWriter3: 4:13pm On Jun 13, 2022
This two wantsn't even tell there is a disparity between federal political and federal political
Re: What Is The Fuss About Muslim/Muslim Ticket? by Validated: 4:28pm On Jun 13, 2022
Muslim-Muslim ticket is like same-sex marriage. We abhor it and we will stone it to death.

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Re: What Is The Fuss About Muslim/Muslim Ticket? by Ballack1(m): 4:30pm On Jun 13, 2022
Everything is wrong oo
Re: What Is The Fuss About Muslim/Muslim Ticket? by Validated: 4:31pm On Jun 13, 2022
OsunOriginal:


How has the christian VP in the current administration helped? What did a christian president (OBJ) do about it? We don't need a christian or a muslim president to solve our problem. All we need is a leader who knows what it means and requires to lead a multi-religious entity like Nigeria, The person might even be an atheist or a buddist.
Why are you not voting Christians in Osun? Okay, you do not have competent christians.
Be deceiving your self. The era that this TAQYYA worked has long past.
Re: What Is The Fuss About Muslim/Muslim Ticket? by Tomek09(m): 4:36pm On Jun 13, 2022
OsunOriginal:


Not mentioning Kwakwanso doesn't change anything. The battle ground still remains the north and whoever the APC chooses will determine the strength of the party there.
Tinubu should put all his hope in SW and NW let's see what becomes of the outcome.
Re: What Is The Fuss About Muslim/Muslim Ticket? by paramakina202: 5:52pm On Jun 13, 2022
OsunOriginal:


If you don't know that the same calculation that produced Osinbajo as VP is what will produce a muslim from the north as the VP this time, then, I don't think we should continue to discuss this further. Buhari was widely accepted in the north (for whatever reason) and what they needed was a VP that will be acceptable to the majority in the "south" which is largely christian - SW, SE, and SS considered. This is what produced Osinbajo as VP. Picking a muslim from the south would have been catastrophic not because of any balance but because the battle ground (the south) was largely christian dominated. So, they have to appeal to their sentiment. For the 2023 elections, the SW is already on lockdown for Tinubu no matter who he chooses as his VP. The "our son" attraction will over shadow any religious considerations. And regardless of who Tinubu chooses as VP, SE will vote for Atiku and Peter Obi - that has been their way - even you didnt vote for Osinbajo. Tinubu will struggle to 10% of the votes in most SE states regardless. South south will be shared regardless of the faith of the VP to Tinubu. The battle ground (APC vs PDP) therefore is the north and who you pick there as VP matters and will determine the direction of their votes. APC will have to appeal to their sentiment there which is largely along religious line - it unfortunate but that is the reality.

Another June 12 loading....... No need for too much talk that is if he even win.
Re: What Is The Fuss About Muslim/Muslim Ticket? by duwdu: 7:38pm On Jun 13, 2022
OsunOriginal:
I am not a practicing politician neither am I interested in going into politics in Nigeria. However, I take interest in political activities both local and international. I therefore follow, with keen interest, the happenings in the political scene especially as it concerns governance and actions of the key players.

As the preparation for the 2023 general elections in Nigeria commences, we have seen the usual pedestrian issues rearing their ugly heads again. One of these is the rumored APC's preference for a muslim/muslim ticket. Many, especially, the "church goers" have been kicking against it. Even CAN, of all organizations, is also now showing interest in the faith of the potential VP candidate of a party they so much hate and have called different names. They want one of theirs to be given the slot I guess. They've been disturbing the airspace with the threats of a potential Armageddon that may engulf the country should APC decide to field a muslim VP from the north. And I ask, why all these fuss?

First, a political party would do what it thinks will give it the required votes to win an election. This is the first consideration and it has little or nothing to do with the love or hatred for a religion over the other. It is all about votes and votes. All of us, including CAN should know this before having sleepless nights over what we can't control and further heating up an already charged situation.

Second, religious business and politics have nothing, in the actual intents and acts, to do together. One focuses on God and hereafter, not worldly politics and the material acquisitions that go with it. The later is about crude worldly politicking with little or no regard for God and HIS instructions to us. Even though there is little or no difference between politicians and religious followers, in the actual practice of both in a country like ours, can we and CAN just pretend that we are different from politicians and our end goals are different? Leave the politicians alone to do their business while you focus on reminding them of what awaits them hereafter if they don't follow God's instructions to them. Part of God's instructions to leaders is to be fair to all and act only in the interest of the people.

Furthermore, what have we benefited from a muslim/christian ticket of the current administration and the ones before it? Apart from the personal, backdoor benefits and gains by religious leaders, the country has largely benefited nothing, on the religious front, from either a muslim/christian or a christian/muslim ticket. Sectarian violence continues across the country and even worse than when the military was managing the country. What has the current christian VP been able to do to prevent massacres such as the recent one at a church in Owo where "church goers" were gun down without mercy? What has he done to prevent a recurrence of the killings linked to blasphemy in the north? And what has the muslim president done to prevent the "mosque goers" from been blown up in their mosques and markets in the north? The demand for and assurance of good governance shouldn't have anything to do with the faith of the leader. Any muslim president/VP that can't prevent violence, whether it is targeted at christians or muslims, is not fit to be in that position. if a christian president/VP can't guarantee the safety of muslims, he or she is not fit to be a leader. It is a multi-religious country and whoever expires to lead such a country must first understand this.

Finally, we should all stop being bigots and refrain from heating up the polity. There is nothing evil or devilish about a muslim/muslim ticket, just as nobody should have sleepless nights over a christian/christian ticket. Political struggles and parties in a democracy are not designed around the well beings of any particular religious faithfuls. It is an arrangement to get votes to serve the personal interests of politicians first, and hopefully the country. And no political leader goes into an office in a multi-religious country like ours to incite violence against the practitioners of a religion he doesnt believe in. We have states where it has been a christian/christian ticket for decades - there are muslims in those states. And there are states where we have had muslim/muslim ticket - there are christians too in those states.

So, why are we heating up the polity over a muslim/muslim presidential ticket? Is this to ensure good governance, massage religious ego, or achieve selfish interests?

Let's get serious, guys!

Very well said — and written, OP. Yours appears to be a stable and calm mind and I, for one, appreciate that.

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Re: What Is The Fuss About Muslim/Muslim Ticket? by duwdu: 8:39pm On Jun 13, 2022
@OP;

The majority of the opinions here antagonistic to your write up, is southern. One should not be surprised at that.

I say that because the large majority of the Nigerian press — and Cyberspace, is southern. And since, like you already mentioned, the south is majority christian, opinions — including those on here — would be largely skewed to the south, sometimes very aggressively.

To me, you've advanced rational and balanced arguments that are more representative of the thinking of the totality of Nigeria. An indirect proof of that is that the position favored or championed by the majority north, comes out on top literally 90% of the time.

So, I'll continue to wish that our folks stay and sleep well, based on these realities.

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P34c3
Re: What Is The Fuss About Muslim/Muslim Ticket? by OsunOriginal: 10:09pm On Jun 13, 2022
duwdu:
@OP;

The majority of the opinions here antagonistic to your write up, is southern. One should not be surprised at that.

I say that because the large majority of the Nigerian press — and Cyberspace, is southern. And since, like you already mentioned, the south is majority christian, opinions — including those on here — would be largely skewed to the south, sometimes very aggressively.

To me, you've advanced rational and balanced arguments that are more representative of the thinking of the totality of Nigeria. An indirect proof of that is that the position favored or championed by the majority north, comes out on top literally 90% of the time.

So, I'll continue to wish that our folks stay and sleep well, based on these realities.

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P34c3

Same here...
Re: What Is The Fuss About Muslim/Muslim Ticket? by orisa37: 8:24am On Jun 20, 2022
OsunOriginal:


You didn't add ISWA to it

The TERRORIST IS IN FUNAM.

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