I am not a practicing politician neither am I interested in going into politics in Nigeria. However, I take interest in political activities both local and international. I therefore follow, with keen interest, the happenings in the political scene especially as it concerns governance and actions of the key players.

As the preparation for the 2023 general elections in Nigeria commences, we have seen the usual pedestrian issues rearing their ugly heads again. One of these is the rumored APC's preference for a muslim/muslim ticket. Many, especially, the "church goers" have been kicking against it. Even CAN, of all organizations, is also now showing interest in the faith of the potential VP candidate of a party they so much hate and have called different names. They want one of theirs to be given the slot I guess. They've been disturbing the airspace with the threats of a potential Armageddon that may engulf the country should APC decide to field a muslim VP from the north. And I ask, why all these fuss?

First, a political party would do what it thinks will give it the required votes to win an election. This is the first consideration and it has little or nothing to do with the love or hatred for a religion over the other. It is all about votes and votes. All of us, including CAN should know this before having sleepless nights over what we can't control and further heating up an already charged situation.

Second, religious business and politics have nothing, in the actual intents and acts, to do together. One focuses on God and hereafter, not worldly politics and the material acquisitions that go with it. The later is about crude worldly politicking with little or no regard for God and HIS instructions to us. Even though there is little or no difference between politicians and religious followers, in the actual practice of both in a country like ours, can we and CAN just pretend that we are different from politicians and our end goals are different? Leave the politicians alone to do their business while you focus on reminding them of what awaits them hereafter if they don't follow God's instructions to them. Part of God's instructions to leaders is to be fair to all and act only in the interest of the people.

Furthermore, what have we benefited from a muslim/christian ticket of the current administration and the ones before it? Apart from the personal, backdoor benefits and gains by religious leaders, the country has largely benefited nothing, on the religious front, from either a muslim/christian or a christian/muslim ticket. Sectarian violence continues across the country and even worse than when the military was managing the country. What has the current christian VP been able to do to prevent massacres such as the recent one at a church in Owo where "church goers" were gun down without mercy? What has he done to prevent a recurrence of the killings linked to blasphemy in the north? And what has the muslim president done to prevent the "mosque goers" from been blown up in their mosques and markets in the north? The demand for and assurance of good governance shouldn't have anything to do with the faith of the leader. Any muslim president/VP that can't prevent violence, whether it is targeted at christians or muslims, is not fit to be in that position. if a christian president/VP can't guarantee the safety of muslims, he or she is not fit to be a leader. It is a multi-religious country and whoever expires to lead such a country must first understand this.

Finally, we should all stop being bigots and refrain from heating up the polity. There is nothing evil or devilish about a muslim/muslim ticket, just as nobody should have sleepless nights over a christian/christian ticket. Political struggles and parties in a democracy are not designed around the well beings of any particular religious faithfuls. It is an arrangement to get votes to serve the personal interests of politicians first, and hopefully the country. And no political leader goes into an office in a multi-religious country like ours to incite violence against the practitioners of a religion he doesnt believe in. We have states where it has been a christian/christian ticket for decades - there are muslims in those states. And there are states where we have had muslim/muslim ticket - there are christians too in those states.

So, why are we heating up the polity over a muslim/muslim presidential ticket? Is this to ensure good governance, massage religious ego, or achieve selfish interests?

Let's get serious, guys!

There is no fuse, no diode nor capacitor regarding Muslim-muslim ticket.


Let Tinubu try it first so we see where it will take him on election day

This one doesn't even know there is a difference between state politics and federal politics.

The reason is simple.

You cannot get anything done in Nigeria without connections...and having someone in power who shares the same religion, tribe even social club can get a lot of things done...eg contracts, appointments,admission in schools, etc, etc.

That's why people bother about religion and tribe of contestants. Throw in the fact that the largest employer of people in Nigeria is...government.

Having a Christian in power means that people get access to jobs, contracts, etc...on the basis of religion.

Nigeria is not a meritocracy sadly. I wish it was, but the reality is, it isn't. It's what happens when government is the major employer and ruler. Jobs must be shared out for 'equity' and any advantage that gets you closer to the sharing place is useful...especially tribe and religion

Our only hope now is that government at least makes the private sector stronger...the private sector is at least more meritocratic (that's why Dangote is not 90% made up of people from his village...the company would have failed since the 1980's)..so that it would eventually cause some form of trickle down meritocracy to the public sector.

sotall:
There is no fuse, no diode nor capacitor regarding Muslim-muslim ticket.


Let Tinubu try it first so we see where it will take him on election day

This long speech is meaningless. Tinubu should go ahead and see.

Nuff said

sotall:
This one doesn't even know there is a difference between state politics and federal politics.

Don't mind him. Hope he would have written same if it were Christian/Christian ticket

sotall:
There is no fuse, no diode nor capacitor regarding Muslim-muslim ticket.


Let Tinubu try it first so we see where it will take him on election day

You just typed my thoughts

Let me drop this here

sotall:
There is no fuse, no diode nor capacitor regarding Muslim-muslim ticket.


Let Tinubu try it first so we see where it will take him on election day

The Kaduna state situation was even more heated than this given the nature of the state. What happened?

The question you should ask yourself is, will his choice of VP change whom "YOU" are voting for? Will you vote for him if he picks a christian VP? You don't have to answer it because everybody knows the answer already.

If Tinubu picks a muslim VP. he is doing it to probably satisfy the interest of his potential supporters. How many christians are there in the north and how many of them will vote for him even if he picks a christian candidate.

It is a case of losing 10 if you pick option A and losing 30 if pick option B. Which one will you pick?

OsunOriginal:




The Kaduna state situation was even more heated than this given the nature of the state. What happened?

The question you should ask yourself is, will his choice of VP change whom "YOU" are voting for? Will you vote for him if he picks a christian VP? You don't have to answer it because everybody knows the answer already.

If Tinubu picks a muslim VP. he is doing it to probably satisfy the interest of his potential supporters. How many christians are there in the north and how many of them will vote for him even if he picks a christian candidate.

It is a case of losing 10 if you pick option A and gaining 30 if pick option B. Which one will you pick?

It will be more shameful for him when he desperately picks Muslim Muslim ticket and still lose.2023 is not 1993

OsunOriginal:
I am not a practicing politician neither am I interested in going into politics in Nigeria. However, I take interest in political activities both local and international. I therefore follow, with keen interest, the happenings in the political scene especially as it concerns governance and actions of the key players.

As the preparation for the 2023 general elections in Nigeria commences, we have seen the usual pedestrian issues rearing their ugly heads again. One of these is the rumored APC's preference for a muslim/muslim ticket. Many, especially, the "church goers" have been kicking against it. Even CAN, of all organizations, is also now showing interest in the faith of the potential VP candidate of a party they so much hate and have called different names. They want one of theirs to be given the slot I guess. They've been disturbing the airspace with the threats of a potential Armageddon that may engulf the country should APC decide to field a muslim VP from the north. And I ask, why all these fuss?

First, a political party would do what it thinks will give it the required votes to win an election. This is the first consideration and it has little or nothing to do with the love or hatred for a religion over the other. It is all about votes and votes. All of us, including CAN should know this before having sleepless nights over what we can't control and further heating up an already charged situation.

Second, religious business and politics have nothing, in the actual intents and acts, to do together. One focuses on God and hereafter, not worldly politics and the material acquisitions that go with it. The later is about crude worldly politicking with little or no regard for God and HIS instructions to us. Even though there is little or no difference between politicians and religious followers, in the actual practice of both in a country like ours, can we and CAN just pretend that we are different from politicians and our end goals are different? Leave the politicians alone to do their business while you focus on reminding them of what awaits them hereafter if they don't follow God's instructions to them. Part of God's instructions to leaders is to be fair to all and act only in the interest of the people.

Furthermore, what have we benefited from a muslim/christian ticket of the current administration and the ones before it? Apart from the personal, backdoor benefits and gains by religious leaders, the country has largely benefited nothing, on the religious front, from either a muslim/christian or a christian/muslim ticket. Sectarian violence continues across the country and even worse than when the military was managing the country. What has the current christian VP been able to do to prevent massacres such as the recent one at a church in Owo where "church goers" were gun down without mercy? What has he done to prevent a recurrence of the killings linked to blasphemy in the north? And what has the muslim president done to prevent the "mosque goers" from been blown up in their mosques and markets in the north? The demand for and assurance of good governance shouldn't have anything to do with the faith of the leader. Any muslim president/VP that can't prevent violence, whether it is targeted at christians or muslims, is not fit to be in that position. if a christian president/VP can't guarantee the safety of muslims, he or she is not fit to be a leader. It is a multi-religious country and whoever expires to lead such a country must first understand this.

Finally, we should all stop being bigots and refrain from heating up the polity. There is nothing evil or devilish about a muslim/muslim ticket, just as nobody should have sleepless nights over a christian/christian ticket. Political struggles and parties in a democracy are not designed around the well beings of any particular religious faithfuls. It is an arrangement to get votes to serve the personal interests of politicians first, and hopefully the country. And no political leader goes into an office in a multi-religious country like ours to incite violence against the practitioners of a religion he doesnt believe in. We have states where it has been a christian/christian ticket for decades - there are muslims in those states. And there are states where we have had muslim/muslim ticket - there are christians too in those states.

So, why are we heating up the polity over a muslim/muslim presidential ticket? Is this to ensure good governance, massage religious ego, or achieve selfish interests?

Let's get serious, guys!

wa gb'epe, omo jatijati. Abi na bastard or impostor you be ni?

Tinubu/Zulum is a muslim muslim joint candidacy that will be very good for business. I hope Tinubu doesn't listen to his opponents praying for his downfall but forge ahead with a winning combination no matter the religion. Tinubu2023

subsidywise18:
The reason is simple.

You cannot get anything done in Nigeria without connections...and having someone in power who shares the same religion, tribe even social club can get a lot of things done...eg contracts, appointments,admission in schools, etc, etc.

That's why people bother about religion and tribe of contestants. Throw in the fact that the largest employer of people in Nigeria is...government.

Having a Christian in power means that people get access to jobs, contracts, etc...on the basis of religion.

Nigeria is not a meritocracy sadly. I wish it was, but the reality is, it isn't. It's what happens when government is the major employer and ruler. Jobs must be shared out for 'equity' and any advantage that gets you closer to the sharing place is useful...especially tribe and religion

Our only hope now is that government at least makes the private sector stronger...the private sector is at least more meritocratic (that's why Dangote is not 90% made up of people from his village...the company would have failed since the 1980's)..so that it would eventually cause some form of trickle down meritocracy to the public sector.

You have it exactly right. This clientelist, rent-seeking oriented way of doing "politics" is the same reason why nobody cares what the policy positions of candidates are, and what they plan to do with power once they get it. Are they supporters of free-markets or advocates of a state-led economy? Do they want foreign investment or autarky? Do they think education is more or less important than infrastructure? Do they want policing to be as localised as possible or organised on a centralised, federal basis? What powers properly belong to the states, and which to the FG? These are all important questions to which hardly any Nigerians give the slightest interest, focused as they are on getting "our person" into a position where they can go and ask for favors on tribal and religious grounds. And yet the same people turn around and wonder why they continue to live in a cesspool of poverty that never seems to make any progress.

Muslim muslim ticket will end up like june 12.
They may win but may not rule.

paramakina202:
Muslim muslim ticket will end up like june 12.
They may win but may not rule.

They didn't rule because it was a muslim/muslim ticket?

OsunOriginal:


They didn't rule because it was a muslim/muslim ticket?

Maybe,Muslims shouldn't take Nigeria christians for granted.Nigeria is not Kaduna state.
Why didn't Buhari choose Tinubu or any other southern muslim in 2015?
Buhari choose a relatively unknown pastor Osinbajo as VP and still win, what is Tinubu afraid of to balance religious equation like Buhari did?

paramakina202:


Maybe,Muslims shouldn't take Nigeria christians for granted.Nigeria is not Kaduna state.
Why didn't Buhari choose Tinubu or any other southern muslim in 2015?
Buhari choose a relatively unknown pastor Osinbajo as VP and still win, what is Tinubu afraid of to balance religious equation like Buhari did?

If you don't know that the same calculation that produced Osinbajo as VP is what will produce a muslim from the north as the VP this time, then, I don't think we should continue to discuss this further. Buhari was widely accepted in the north (for whatever reason) and what they needed was a VP that will be acceptable to the majority in the "south" which is largely christian - SW, SE, and SS considered. This is what produced Osinbajo as VP. Picking a muslim from the south would have been catastrophic not because of any balance but because the battle ground (the south) was largely christian dominated. So, they have to appeal to their sentiment. For the 2023 elections, the SW is already on lockdown for Tinubu no matter who he chooses as his VP. The "our son" attraction will over shadow any religious considerations. And regardless of who Tinubu chooses as VP, SE will vote for Atiku and Peter Obi - that has been their way - even you didnt vote for Osinbajo. Tinubu will struggle to 10% of the votes in most SE states regardless. South south will be shared regardless of the faith of the VP to Tinubu. The battle ground (APC vs PDP) therefore is the north and who you pick there as VP matters and will determine the direction of their votes. APC will have to appeal to their sentiment there which is largely along religious line - it unfortunate but that is the reality.

sotall:
There is no fuse, no diode nor capacitor regarding Muslim-muslim ticket.


Let Tinubu try it first so we see where it will take him on election day

The way he will fail eeeh. The NW he is trying to please to get votes there has Kwankwaso on the ballot. I don't know how APC thinks NC will vote M-M ticket with their huge Christian electorates. Anyways, it is up to APC to lose this election before 2pm on February 25th since they fail to put many things into consideration in gifting Tinubu their ticket while Buhari looked the other way because he has nothing to lose.

Lubumbashi:
Tinubu/Zulum is a muslim muslim joint candidacy that will be very good for business. I hope Tinubu doesn't listen to his opponents praying for his downfall but forge ahead with a winning combination no matter the religion. Tinubu2023

So Zulum should abandon his reelection he is sure of winning to venture into an uncertainty that will cost him his guber seat.

Let's get serious guys. Get your PVC.

OsunOriginal:


If you don't know that the same calculation that produced Osinbajo as VP is what will produce a muslim from the north as the VP this time, then, I don't think we should continue to discuss this further. Buhari was widely accepted in the north (for whatever reason) and what they needed was a VP that will be acceptable to the majority in the "south" which is largely christian - SW, SE, and SS considered. This is what produced Osinbajo as VP. Picking a muslim from the south would have been catastrophic not because of any balance but because the battle ground (the south) was largely christian dominated. So, they have to appeal to their sentiment. For the 2023 elections, the SW is already on lockdown for Tinubu no matter who he chooses as his VP. The "our son" attraction will over shadow any religious considerations. And regardless of who Tinubu chooses as VP, SE will vote for Atiku and Peter Obi - that has been their way - even you didnt vote for Osinbajo. Tinubu will struggle to 10% of the votes in most SE states regardless. South south will be shared regardless of the faith of the VP to Tinubu. The battle ground (APC vs PDP) therefore is the north and who you pick there as VP matters and will determine the direction of their votes. APC will have to appeal to their sentiment there which is largely along religious line - it unfortunate but that is the reality.

There's no reality here since you deliberately ignored Kwankwaso's influence in NW. I wish Tinubu good luck in his M-M ticket.

IT'S ANTISOCIAL, UNECONOMICAL AND UNREPRESENTATIVE.
AND YOU'RE A FULANI TERRORIST.

Tomek09:

There's no reality here since you deliberately ignored Kwankwaso's influence in NW. I wish Tinubu good luck in his M-M ticket.

Not mentioning Kwakwanso doesn't change anything. The battle ground still remains the north and whoever the APC chooses will determine the strength of the party there.

YOU ARE ANY OR ALL OF:-
MURIC,
ELRUFAI,
SHETTIMA,
SHERIFF MODU AND
FUNAM.

OsunOriginal:
I am not a practicing politician neither am I interested in going into politics in Nigeria. However, I take interest in political activities both local and international. I therefore follow, with keen interest, the happenings in the political scene especially as it concerns governance and actions of the key players.

As the preparation for the 2023 general elections in Nigeria commences, we have seen the usual pedestrian issues rearing their ugly heads again. One of these is the rumored APC's preference for a muslim/muslim ticket. Many, especially, the "church goers" have been kicking against it. Even CAN, of all organizations, is also now showing interest in the faith of the potential VP candidate of a party they so much hate and have called different names. They want one of theirs to be given the slot I guess. They've been disturbing the airspace with the threats of a potential Armageddon that may engulf the country should APC decide to field a muslim VP from the north. And I ask, why all these fuss?

First, a political party would do what it thinks will give it the required votes to win an election. This is the first consideration and it has little or nothing to do with the love or hatred for a religion over the other. It is all about votes and votes. All of us, including CAN should know this before having sleepless nights over what we can't control and further heating up an already charged situation.

Second, religious business and politics have nothing, in the actual intents and acts, to do together. One focuses on God and hereafter, not worldly politics and the material acquisitions that go with it. The later is about crude worldly politicking with little or no regard for God and HIS instructions to us. Even though there is little or no difference between politicians and religious followers, in the actual practice of both in a country like ours, can we and CAN just pretend that we are different from politicians and our end goals are different? Leave the politicians alone to do their business while you focus on reminding them of what awaits them hereafter if they don't follow God's instructions to them. Part of God's instructions to leaders is to be fair to all and act only in the interest of the people.

Furthermore, what have we benefited from a muslim/christian ticket of the current administration and the ones before it? Apart from the personal, backdoor benefits and gains by religious leaders, the country has largely benefited nothing, on the religious front, from either a muslim/christian or a christian/muslim ticket. Sectarian violence continues across the country and even worse than when the military was managing the country. What has the current christian VP been able to do to prevent massacres such as the recent one at a church in Owo where "church goers" were gun down without mercy? What has he done to prevent a recurrence of the killings linked to blasphemy in the north? And what has the muslim president done to prevent the "mosque goers" from been blown up in their mosques and markets in the north? The demand for and assurance of good governance shouldn't have anything to do with the faith of the leader. Any muslim president/VP that can't prevent violence, whether it is targeted at christians or muslims, is not fit to be in that position. if a christian president/VP can't guarantee the safety of muslims, he or she is not fit to be a leader. It is a multi-religious country and whoever expires to lead such a country must first understand this.

Finally, we should all stop being bigots and refrain from heating up the polity. There is nothing evil or devilish about a muslim/muslim ticket, just as nobody should have sleepless nights over a christian/christian ticket. Political struggles and parties in a democracy are not designed around the well beings of any particular religious faithfuls. It is an arrangement to get votes to serve the personal interests of politicians first, and hopefully the country. And no political leader goes into an office in a multi-religious country like ours to incite violence against the practitioners of a religion he doesnt believe in. We have states where it has been a christian/christian ticket for decades - there are muslims in those states. And there are states where we have had muslim/muslim ticket - there are christians too in those states.

So, why are we heating up the polity over a muslim/muslim presidential ticket? Is this to ensure good governance, massage religious ego, or achieve selfish interests?

Let's get serious, guys!

You are not a Christian. And even if you were, you have zero knowledge about the existential realities in Nigeria.

Please go and sleep and let those who really bear the brunt of Fulani Herdsmen, Boko Haram, and all government endorsed atrocities speak.

orisa37:
YOU ARE ANY OR ALL OF:-
MURIC,
ELRUFAI,
SHETTIMA,
SHERIFF MODU AND
FUNAM.

You didn't add ISWA to it

YOU'RE DEAD, UNDISCERNING AND IGNORANT.

Nigeria is too socio-politically volatile to blindly accept a muslim-muslim presidential ticket at this stage of her existence.

Would the north accept a Christian-Christian ticket? Or a south-south ticket? I doubt...

If care is not taken, the distribution of top offices at federal level come 2023 would be child's play to what PMB did... President down to chief judge would be Muslims...

orisa37:
IT'S ANTISOCIAL, UNECONOMICAL AND UNREPRESENTATIVE.
AND YOU'RE A FULANI TERRORIST.

They have been sent to numb the minds of people to their planned wickedness. Even the guys in the core North are not speaking boldly about this M-M ticket. Yet fools from the South try to push it down our throat.

Honest Muslims don't even want such a thing, but some stupid Christians don't mind. When Buhari appointed all his kinsmen to major positions and alloted all the arm-bearing agencies to be headed by Northerners these same self-deluded chaps clapped for him. We see the results. Now these goons have come again to push the narrative a step further.

I wonder why Christians allow themselves to be deceived with the issue of Muslim-Muslim ticket instead of negotiating other more important seats prior to the election, though short of justice.
VP seat has little impact or power to protect Christians in Nigeria.
Remember, Buhari became President with all FG structure under Muslims;
President-Muslim
Senate President-Muslim
Speaker-Muslim
Chief Judge-Muslim
Attorney General-Muslim
Service Chiefs- Military (except CDS), NIA, DSS are all Muslims but there is very little uproar and this shows there is aorta of politicking in the game.
I'm very much upbeat that Senate President and Speaker can give Christians more protection than VP with no constitutional power to give the protection.
So Christians especially the Southern politicians should work with Tinubu to secure Senate President seat and Attorney General's position and leave North with VP and Speaker because no amount of agitation will stop a Muslim-Muslim ticket and the potential of APC winning election is high

ivandragon:
Nigeria is too socio-politically volatile to blindly accept a muslim-muslim presidential ticket at this stage of her existence.

Would the north accept a Christian-Christian ticket? Or a south-south ticket? I doubt...

Don't even say too much. The US is more tolerant than any country in the world. Even they will NEVER accept such a thing! Please ask this OP to mention one country in the world that has 50% Muslim population and allowed a Christian-Christian leadership. Let him name just one!

But he wants a Muslim-Muslim presidency is a country as bigoted, volatile and war-torn as Nigeria. Tufiakwa!