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Question On Divorce by Nobody: 1:11pm On Jun 18, 2022
Matthew quotes Jesus as saying: “It was also said, 'Whoever divorces his wife, except on the grounds of porneia (sexual immorality), makes her an adulteress; and whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery.” (Matthew 5:31-32)

Question

Is it only a divorced woman that shouldn't remarry? Does the same apply to a divorced man?
Re: Question On Divorce by Kobojunkie: 1:43pm On Jun 18, 2022
nenyewrites:
Matthew quotes Jesus as saying: “It was also said, 'Whoever divorces his wife, except on the grounds of porneia (sexual immorality), makes her an adulteress; and whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery.” (Matthew 5:31-32)

Question

Is it only a divorced woman that shouldn't remarry? Does the same apply to a divorced man?
In the Gospels, Jesus Christ does not teach that divorce is sin. Instead, He speaks of remarriage being potential sin for those divorced. undecided
Matthew 5 vs 31 - 32
31 “It was also said, ‘Any man who divorces his wife must give her a written notice of divorce.’
32 But I tell you that any man who divorces his wife, except for the problem of sexual sin, is causing his wife to be guilty of adultery. And whoever marries a divorced woman is guilty of adultery. - Matthew 5 vs 31 - 32
Matthew 19 vs 7 - 9
7 The Pharisees asked, “Then why did Moses give a command allowing a man to divorce his wife by writing a certificate of divorce?”
8 Jesus answered, “Moses allowed you to divorce your wives because you refused to accept God’s teaching. But divorce was not allowed in the beginning.
9 I tell you that whoever divorces his wife, except for the problem of sexual sin, and marries another woman is guilty of adultery.” - Matthew 19 vs 7 - 9
Mark 10 vs 10- 12
10 Later, when the followers and Jesus were in the house, they asked him again about the question of divorce. 
11 He said, “Whoever divorces his wife and marries another woman has sinned against his wife. He is guilty of adultery. 
12  And the woman who divorces her husband and marries another man is also guilty of adultery.” - Mark 10 vs 10- 12
Luke 16 vs 18
18 “Any man who divorces his wife and marries another woman is guilty of adultery. And the man who marries a divorced woman is also guilty of adultery.” - Luke 16 vs 18
Remarriage as potential sin, as you see from the combined teachings above, applies to both divorced men and women. undecided
Re: Question On Divorce by Nobody: 1:50pm On Jun 18, 2022
Kobojunkie:
In the Gospels, Jesus Christ does not teach that divorce is sin. Instead, He speaks of remarriage being potential sin for those divorced. undecided
Matthew 5 vs 31 - 32

Matthew 19 vs 7 - 9

Mark 10 vs 10- 12

Luke 16 vs 18
Remarriage as potential sin, as you see from the combined teachings above, applies to both divorced men and women. undecided

Ok. So this is also saying the Bible doesn't permit polygamy right?
Re: Question On Divorce by Kobojunkie: 2:27pm On Jun 18, 2022
nenyewrites:
Ok. So this is also saying the Bible doesn't permit polygamy right?
First and foremost, this isn't your Bible saying anything. Instead it is God's Law and Covenant in the Kingdom of God, Jesus Christ, giving you commandments to live by. undecided

Second, there is no law given you by Jesus Christ that suggests polygamy a sin. undecided
Re: Question On Divorce by McDuncan: 2:47pm On Jun 18, 2022
nenyewrites:
Matthew quotes Jesus as saying: “It was also said, 'Whoever divorces his wife, except on the grounds of porneia (sexual immorality), makes her an adulteress; and whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery.” (Matthew 5:31-32)

Question

Is it only a divorced woman that shouldn't remarry? Does the same apply to a divorced man?

I'm afraid it applies to divorced women only. Scripturally, women only have the power of separation, not divorce.
Re: Question On Divorce by ImaIma1(f): 7:59pm On Jun 18, 2022
nenyewrites:
Matthew quotes Jesus as saying: “It was also said, 'Whoever divorces his wife, except on the grounds of porneia (sexual immorality), makes her an adulteress; and whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery.” (Matthew 5:31-32)

Question

Is it only a divorced woman that shouldn't remarry? Does the same apply to a divorced man?


You dare to quote the Bible! The person that wrote it must appear on the thread to tackle you cheesy. Good luck!

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Re: Question On Divorce by Acidosis(m): 8:13pm On Jun 18, 2022
ImaIma1:


You dare to quote the Bible! The person that wrote it must appear on the thread to tackle you cheesy. Good luck!

Good luck+ cheesy
Re: Question On Divorce by ImaIma1(f): 11:44pm On Jun 18, 2022
Acidosis:


Good luck+ cheesy


grin

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Re: Question On Divorce by TheRealMrReal: 12:41am On Jun 19, 2022
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Re: Question On Divorce by ahnie: 1:11am On Jun 19, 2022
ImaIma1:


You dare to quote the Bible! The person that wrote it must appear on the thread to tackle you cheesy. Good luck!

Godspeed grin
Re: Question On Divorce by Kobojunkie: 3:16am On Jun 19, 2022
McDuncan:
I'm afraid it applies to divorced women only. Scripturally, women only have the power of separation, not divorce.
Where in scripture does this claim of yours come from? undecided
Re: Question On Divorce by Mindlog: 6:22am On Jun 19, 2022
McDuncan:


I'm afraid it applies to divorced women only. Scripturally, women only have the power of separation, not divorce.

Go read Luke 16 vs 18.

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Re: Question On Divorce by Mindlog: 6:26am On Jun 19, 2022
McDuncan:


I'm afraid it applies to divorced women only. Scripturally, women only have the power of separation, not divorce.

“Anyone who divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery, and the man who marries a divorced woman commits adultery.

Luke 16 vs 18.

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Re: Question On Divorce by McDuncan: 9:25am On Jun 19, 2022
Mindlog:


“Anyone who divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery, and the man who marries a divorced woman commits adultery.

Luke 16 vs 18.

My reply was tailored to fit the question from the OP who's asking about divorced people (man or woman). The question is simplified thus: "does it apply to a divorced man?"

Question

Is it only a divorced woman that shouldn't remarry? Does the same apply to a divorced man?


And my answer is simple. A woman in the first place, by scripture, doesn't have the power of divorce. She can at best separate or be joined back to her husband or remain separated for the rest of her life.

Luke 16 : 18 talks about intents while the question from the OP is centered on after the deed.
Re: Question On Divorce by McDuncan: 10:01am On Jun 19, 2022
Kobojunkie:
Where in scripture does this claim of yours come from? undecided

To what purpose is it, delving into scriptural waters with you, Kobojunkie?

You have refused to grasp common, everyday scriptural truths. So?

I'm afraid, your question springs from your thirst for heretic postulation.

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Re: Question On Divorce by Mindlog: 10:06am On Jun 19, 2022
McDuncan:


My reply was tailored to fit the question from the OP who's asking about divorced people (man or woman). The question is simplified thus: "does it apply to a divorced man?"

Question

Is it only a divorced woman that shouldn't remarry? Does the same apply to a divorced man?


And my answer is simple. A woman in the first place, by scripture, doesn't have the power of divorce. She can at best separate or be joined back to her husband or remain separated for the rest of her life.

Luke 16 : 18 I'm afraid is a different matter altogether.

From your earlier response, you alluded that a divorced man can remarry but a divorced woman can't. The OP's question was never who has the power to divorce. So the Luke's quotation counters your position.

On a lighter note, that verse focused the adultery on men! If e divorce marry another woman, he becomes an adulterer, if a man go marry a divorced woman he becomes an adulterer.....dem no mention what the woman is in both scenarios. cheesy

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Re: Question On Divorce by McDuncan: 10:34am On Jun 19, 2022
Mindlog:


From your earlier response, you alluded that a divorced man can remarry but a divorced woman can't. The OP's question was never who has the power to divorce. So the Luke's quotation counters your position.

On a lighter note, that verse focused the adultery on men! If e divorce marry another woman, he becomes an adulterer, if a man go marry a divorced woman he becomes an adulterer.....dem no mention what the woman is in both scenarios. cheesy

My earlier submission was clear; if a woman doesn't have the power to divorce, then there is no scripturally based divorced men. So I couldn't have alluded that because there's no divorced men in the scriptural sense.

Luke was emphasizing on divorce outside the sin of adultery by the woman.

The sole purpose of Luke's take on that subject matter is thus; any man who divorce his wife outside the ambit of the law commits adultery with the new wife and the man who marries the divorced wife also commits adultery. This is not about "divorced men" which is the original basis for the question by the OP.


There's nothing like a divorced man scripturally. However the sexual sin of a man might be, it doesn't give the woman the right to divorce. She can only separate. Hence there's no scriptural provision for a woman to remarry unless by death of her husband. And no matter how she was divorced, whether scripturally lawful or otherwise, she's barred from remarrying because she remains the wife of her husband. And even when she's divorced lawfully owing to her committing adultery, she still can't remarry.

For men, it is narrowed down to only when the wife is sexually unfaithful. He can divorce and remarry.

So, while Luke points us to the reality of a man committing adultery by unlawful divorce and remarrying, it doesn't answer to "divorced men" remarrying. And this is what I think the OP was asking.
Re: Question On Divorce by Kobojunkie: 12:19pm On Jun 19, 2022
McDuncan:
To what purpose is it, delving into scriptural waters with you, Kobojunkie?

You have refused to grasp common, everyday scriptural truths. So?

I'm afraid, your question springs from your thirst for heretic postulation.
Again, Where in scripture does this claim of yours come from? undecided

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Re: Question On Divorce by efficiencie(m): 2:20pm On Jun 19, 2022
nenyewrites:
Matthew quotes Jesus as saying: “It was also said, 'Whoever divorces his wife, except on the grounds of porneia (sexual immorality), makes her an adulteress; and whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery.” (Matthew 5:31-32)

Question

Is it only a divorced woman that shouldn't remarry? Does the same apply to a divorced man?

Question 1. No
Question 2. Yes

See reference below:

And he saith unto them, Whosoever shall put away his wife, and marry another, committeth adultery against her. And if a woman shall put away her husband, and be married to another, she committeth adultery.
Mark 10:11-12

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Re: Question On Divorce by McDuncan: 2:36pm On Jun 19, 2022
Kobojunkie:
Again, Where in scripture does this claim of yours come from? undecided

I knew you'd repeat the same question, even with your signature emoji.

What blend of weed do you ingest? Surely, it is responsible for your repetition compulsion condition.

I've made it clear -- and for the last time -- I won't be delving into scripture with a junkie and a deviant.

So please, go weed up in peace.
Re: Question On Divorce by Kobojunkie: 2:37pm On Jun 19, 2022
McDuncan:
I knew you'd repeat the same question, even with your signature emoji.
What blend of weed do you ingest? Surely, it is responsible for your repetition compulsion condition.
I've made it clear -- and for the last time -- I won't be delving into scripture with a junkie and a deviant.
So please, go weed up in piece.
Again, Where in scripture does this claim of yours come from? undecided

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Re: Question On Divorce by bukatyne(f): 2:51pm On Jun 19, 2022
McDuncan:

My earlier submission was clear; if a woman doesn't have the power to divorce, then there is no scripturally based divorced men. So I couldn't have alluded that because there's no divorced men in the scriptural sense.

Luke was emphasizing on divorce outside the sin of adultery by the woman.

The sole purpose of Luke's take on that subject matter is thus; any man who divorce his wife outside the ambit of the law commits adultery with the new wife and the man who marries the divorced wife also commits adultery. This is not about "divorced men" which is the original basis for the question by the OP.


There's nothing like a divorced man scripturally. However the sexual sin of a man might be, it doesn't give the woman the right to divorce. She can only separate. Hence there's no scriptural provision for a woman to remarry unless by death of her husband. And no matter how she was divorced, whether scripturally lawful or otherwise, she's barred from remarrying because she remains the wife of her husband. And even when she's divorced lawfully owing to her committing adultery, she still can't remarry.

For men, it is narrowed down to only when the wife is sexually unfaithful. He can divorce and remarry.

So, while Luke points us to the reality of a man committing adultery by unlawful divorce and remarrying, it doesn't answer to "divorced men" remarrying. And this is what I think the OP was asking.

The ex-husband of a divorced woman is?

A man who divorces his wife is?

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Re: Question On Divorce by NoToPile: 3:46pm On Jun 19, 2022
Lool at there's nothing like a divorced man scripturally.

I wonder where people get their heresies from.

Abeg I can't deal.

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Re: Question On Divorce by Redpillar(m): 4:00pm On Jun 19, 2022
NoToPile:
Lool at there's nothing like a divorced man scripturally.

I wonder where people get their heresies from.

Abeg I can't deal.

From their gbolas.

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Re: Question On Divorce by McDuncan: 4:43pm On Jun 19, 2022
bukatyne:


The ex-husband of a divorced woman is?

A man who divorces his wife is?

Regardless of today's nomenclature, you perfectly understand where I'm driving at.
Re: Question On Divorce by Mariangeles(f): 4:55pm On Jun 19, 2022
ImaIma1:


You dare to quote the Bible! The person that wrote it must appear on the thread to tackle you cheesy. Good luck!

When I read this, at first I was like undecided, then I was like oh! cheesy
Re: Question On Divorce by bukatyne(f): 5:00pm On Jun 19, 2022
McDuncan:


Regardless of today's nomenclature, you perfectly understand where I'm driving at.

I honestly don't.

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Re: Question On Divorce by ImaIma1(f): 5:04pm On Jun 19, 2022
Mariangeles:


When I read this, at first I was like undecided, then I was like oh! cheesy


You know every...daddy freeze vibes cheesy

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Re: Question On Divorce by phemmyfour: 5:16pm On Jun 19, 2022
nenyewrites:
Matthew quotes Jesus as saying: “It was also said, 'Whoever divorces his wife, except on the grounds of porneia (sexual immorality), makes her an adulteress; and whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery.” (Matthew 5:31-32)

Question

Is it only a divorced woman that shouldn't remarry? Does the same apply to a divorced man?
Mark chapter 10 addressed that

When they were in the house again, the disciples asked Jesus about this. 11 He answered, “Anyone who divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery against her. 12 And if she divorces her husband and marries another man, she commits adultery

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Re: Question On Divorce by McDuncan: 5:21pm On Jun 19, 2022
bukatyne:


I honestly don't.


Ok, simply put; is there any scriptural narration of a woman who divorced her husband?

A man who divorced his wife can be called a divorced man, this I know but, I'm talking about men who have been divorced by their wives in scripture.
Re: Question On Divorce by Mindlog: 5:24pm On Jun 19, 2022
phemmyfour:
Mark chapter 10 addressed that

When they were in the house again, the disciples asked Jesus about this. 11 He answered, “Anyone who divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery against her. 12 And if she divorces her husband and marries another man, she commits adultery

But @McDuncan, says scripturally a woman can not divorce her husband despite Mark 10:12 stating part of Jesus' response "And if she divorces her husband and marries another man, she commits adultery"
.

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Re: Question On Divorce by Kobojunkie: 5:34pm On Jun 19, 2022
McDuncan:
1. Ok, simply put; is there any scriptural narration of a woman who divorced her husband?

2. A man who divorced his wife can be called a divorced man, this I know but, I'm talking about men who have been divorced by their wives in scripture.
The Samaritan woman Jesus Christ met at the well - John 4 vs 1 - 42 ? undecided

2. She divorced her many husbands and was probably considering a 6th. Ofcourse this is all before Jesus Christ showed up to teach an entirely New and different Law from the Old Law. . undecided

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