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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 10:23pm On Apr 06, 2023
Unlimited22:

The UK recently introduced a visa that is set to attract teachers to come.

If they all leave, what happens to the future of our children?

If all our civil engineers leave, will we keep importing people who don't understand the layout of our land to build,repair and maintain our infrastructure?

The world Is online. If all our Network and security engineers live, what happens to the security of our country which is Paramount?

If all our young researchers leave,what happens to our scientific advancement as a country?


This stance can be applied to anything, chief. And not everyone will leave, you and I know that.

This bill is the equivalent of amputating a patient's right arm because you want to prevent the rot on his left leg from spreading.

Comparing Medicine to some of these courses is just apples and oranges.

Doctors are licensed. Not all courses need a license to operate.

You spent more than 6 years in school. Some tech bros never went to one; YouTube and Coursera did it for them

I don't know why you are comparing Medicine to Teaching
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 10:24pm On Apr 06, 2023
Ibime:
Bill is dead on arrival. What identifies a Nigerian as a doctor, will his passport say so?

Healthcare is very competitive. Countries are dragging nurses from other countries talkless of doctors. Phillipines done hear wine from UK when it comes to nurses.

The only other country I know with restriction on Doctors leaving is Cuba, and Cuba allows their doctors 5 year exist to other countries to earn big bucks at a time.

This right here!!
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Unlimited22: 10:24pm On Apr 06, 2023
Ibime:


This is entry level

A houseman can expect to earn £50k to £65k

A general practitioner £90k

A Consultant £100k plus whether a specialist, Radiologist or Pathologist

This is for NHS work. Most Consultants and some GPs have private practice and rake in hundreds of thousands to millions. The ones that don't have private practice lecture on the side
And still health workers for una side say e no do them 🤣🤣🤣🤣

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by liveLongNprospa(m): 10:24pm On Apr 06, 2023
izzou:


Bank Managers with their allowances still japa

Directors and Heads of Depts in Multinationals still japa.

My friend works in a Multinational an earns 300k told me her HOD that earns millions a month, japad to Canada. So what is your point, sir?

I have asked you how we can pay these doctors what they rightfully deserve, and all of una dey write story everywhere

Okay, doctors deserve £1,000 a week. How do we pay them this money?

Your next reply go be epistle
And you have forgotten that the japa wave skyrocketed in the last 3yrs because of this government especially after EndSars happened and country got even more bleeped up.
Nigerian admission rate into UK schools jumped over 200% in 2021 and still climbed last year again.
Proof of funds became a hustle from last year.

Why wasnt it this bad during the times of PDP?


Again you think everybody that japas actually wants to japa.. Nor be so guy.

Pay them better and people will stay.
Fix the country and it will further flatten the curve.
Infact just sorting out insecurity and paying them better will reduce the japa wave of doctors very well...
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ibime(m): 10:25pm On Apr 06, 2023
izzou:


Then someone here believes a Nigerian doctor would leave this offer if he has a better pay

I am waiting for the "better pay" that would make any sane doctor, stay and reject going to the UK

This offer is on the lower end in Western countries. Australia and USA pay the highest. Afrodoc done abandon Hippocratic oath to chase Benjamin since

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Unlimited22: 10:26pm On Apr 06, 2023
izzou:


Comparing Medicine to some of these courses is just apples and oranges.

Doctors are licensed. Not all courses need a license to operate.

You spent more than 6 years in school. Some tech bros never went to one; YouTube and Coursera did it for them

I don't know why you are comparing Medicine to Teaching
So they should stay back because they need a license to operate?


You think everyone who leaves is doing so because they want to? Or you feel say na only the money dey motivate people wey dey comot?

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DeadPresidents: 10:26pm On Apr 06, 2023
Unlimited22:

The UK recently introduced a visa that is set to attract teachers to come.

If they all leave, what happens to the future of our children?

If all our civil engineers leave, will we keep importing people who don't understand the layout of our land to build,repair and maintain our infrastructure?

The world Is online. If all our Network and security engineers live, what happens to the security of our country which is Paramount?

If all our young researchers leave,what happens to our scientific advancement as a country?


This stance can be applied to anything, chief. And not everyone will leave, you and I know that.

This bill is the equivalent of amputating a patient's right arm because you want to prevent the rot on his left leg from spreading.

This.

I have 5 doctor friends and none of them has been successful with japa yet. All of them have Japa intentions but the truth is, japa is not easy menh. Contrary to what most people think, they don't issue out visas when you take the Hippocratic oath. You still have to compete with other japasexuals such as yourself.

My advice, do nothing. People will japa and people will still remain. Life moves on. Not wanting people to improve their lives because it benefits you is selfishness.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ibime(m): 10:27pm On Apr 06, 2023
Unlimited22:

And still health workers for una side say e no do them 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Na junior doctors and below dey complain and that salary dey low to be honest
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Unlimited22: 10:27pm On Apr 06, 2023
Ibime:


This offer is on the lower end in Western countries. Australia and USA pay the highest. Afrodoc done abandon Hippocratic oath to chase Benjamin since
Canadian ophthalmologists, American Plastic surgeons and other high end surgical specialties, and Australian everythings


Blood Money
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Unlimited22: 10:27pm On Apr 06, 2023
Ibime:


Na junior doctors and below dey complain and that salary dey low to be honest


I agree. I wholeheartedly agree.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Unlimited22: 10:30pm On Apr 06, 2023
DeadPresidents:


This.

I have 5 doctor friends and none of them has been successful with japa yet. All of them have Japa intentions but the truth is, japa is not easy menh. Contrary to what most people think, they don't issue out visas when you take the Hippocratic oath. You still have to compete with other japasexuals such as yourself.

My advice, do nothing. People will japa and people will still remain. Life moves on. Not wanting people to improve their lives because it benefits you is selfishness.
Let izzou go and check how much it takes to write PLAB 1 and 2, not to talk of USMLE Steps 1-3

Even me sef, if I wan go place like Canada, e go bloody because our curriculum isn't recognised there. I have to do Express entry first, then pay for a bridging program at the University of Waterloo after I become a permanent resident, THEN take licensing exams from the Canadian Optometric Association before I even become eligible to see a patient under supervision.


Money and time wey person for use dey advance life for Nigeria if we even had the basics.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 10:31pm On Apr 06, 2023
Ibime:


This offer is on the lower end in Western countries. Australia and USA pay the highest. Afrodoc done abandon Hippocratic oath to chase Benjamin since

Healthcare is competitive, and that is why i find it funny when Prosper says we should pay them well

How much we wan pay them?

People who earn double that of doctors and do less work still dey japa.

But pay a Nigerian doctor well, and e go stay.

Odiegwu
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 10:33pm On Apr 06, 2023
Unlimited22:

Let izzou go and check how much it takes to write PLAB 1 and 2, not to talk of USMLE Steps 1-3

Even me sef, if I wan go place like Canada, e go bloody because our curriculum isn't recognised there. I have to do Express entry first, then pay for a bridging program at the University of Waterloo after I become a permanent resident before I even become eligible to see a patient under supervision.


Money and time wey person for use dey advance life for Nigeria if we even had the basics.

But you have repeatedly said it here that you can't wait to japa

Despite all these hurdles, you are willing to go.

The different curriculums and PLAB and Pelebe no discourage you abi?

Even if dem double your salary, you will go, bros.

And yes, you have every right to.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OasisX: 10:34pm On Apr 06, 2023
cool

Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 10:39pm On Apr 06, 2023
Unlimited22:

So they should stay back because they need a license to operate?


You think everyone who leaves is doing so because they want to? Or you feel say na only the money dey motivate people wey dey comot?

90% of the time, the money motivates people, and i will not be hypocritical about it.

Nigeria is bad and bad, yet legit billionaires and millionaires are living here, working here and doing business here.

Take away the money, and they would be on the next flight to Obodo Oyibo.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Unlimited22: 10:40pm On Apr 06, 2023
OasisX:
cool
Please you people should leave this yeye thing and face actual issues.

The state of California alone contributed 93 million metric tonnes of CO² in 2021 meanwhile the figure for all the countries in Africa was around 400 million metric tonnes.

Africa as a continent contributes less than the top 15 American states. Less than 5% of the world total.


We have problems with multidimensional poverty. Hunger and starvation. Lack of education. Lack of access to healthcare, potable water and education. Infant mortality. The brain drain.


Please we have more pressing issues than listening to Greta Thunberg and her cronies.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 10:45pm On Apr 06, 2023
Unlimited22:

Please you people should leave this yeye thing and face actual issues.

The state of California alone contributed 93 million metric tonnes of CO² in 2021 meanwhile the figure for all the countries in Africa was around 400 million metric tonnes.

Africa as a continent contributes less than the top 15 American states. Less than 5% of the world total.


We have problems with multidimensional poverty. Hunger and starvation. Lack of education. Lack of access to healthcare, potable water and education. Infant mortality. The brain drain.


Please we have more pressing issues than listening to Greta Thunberg and her cronies.

Let the West deal with climate change, We have more pressing issue with hunger
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by liveLongNprospa(m): 11:01pm On Apr 06, 2023
Lmao.. 10yrs then another 5yrs before you get your licence.. Which parent go allow their pikin do that kind thing?
😂😂😂
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by nihilistjnr: 11:10pm On Apr 06, 2023
I can understand why the Government would want to lockdown doctors by law sha, there's not a lot of money in the bank to pay a competitive wage, and if you let all the doctors go, then people will die, possibly in their millions.

However, this should prove the writing on the wall for anybody still optimistic for tbe future of Nigeria, if the Government is forced to handcuff its doctors to prevent them from leaving.

Nigeria is doomed. Know this and Japa.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by FBS: 12:07am On Apr 07, 2023
raumdeuter:


Let the West deal with climate change, We have more pressing issue with hunger
In addition to that, there is poverty, power supply, insecurity, social amenities, infrastructure..... The list seems endless.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by plat0: 12:15am On Apr 07, 2023
izzou:


Bank Managers with their allowances still japa

Directors and Heads of Depts in Multinationals still japa.

My friend works in a Multinational an earns 300k told me her HOD that earns millions a month, japad to Canada. So what is your point, sir?

I have asked you how we can pay these doctors what they rightfully deserve, and all of una dey write story everywhere

Okay, doctors deserve £1,000 a week. How do we pay them this money?

Your next reply go be epistle
I've been reading comments on this thread and the opposing side is yet to proffer a viable solution to the question you asked, I get tired and sick of reading comments of Nigerians online, they criticize everything, when you ask them to come up with solutions, they write more bullshiit, how much can you possibly pay Nigerian doctors to prevent them from leaving Nigeria? Please be realistic, can you pay doctors $5k - $10k monthly in Nigeria? I'm sure if the government offers to pay around that range 80% will still japa as the funding for japa would have been made easier. I'm not in support of the bill, people pay almost nothing to get a medical degree compared to their counterparts in developed countries, what can we possibly and realistically do as a country to curtail the rate of japa in the medical field?

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Donjazet2: 12:36am On Apr 07, 2023
Theflint1:
The job of a president isn't to counter propaganda for propaganda. The people that wanted Buhari to speak wanted him to speak on issues, not necessarily to do propaganda vs propaganda. You seem to be rejoicing that Tinubu will essentially replicate Buhari's media absenteeism and get more of a pass because there'd be people to counter demands that he makes himself available with propaganda.

Very evil people we have here, I tell you. I keep reminding people that the person who bears such a view of this country is actually not here with us to suffer the consequences of the nonsense he's supporting.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by larride(m): 1:01am On Apr 07, 2023
Make I Dey jot things down.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by afrodoc2: 1:07am On Apr 07, 2023
DeadPresidents:


Bro, I had a roommate called Jesse who was doing his MBBS when I was in Uniport. I and Jesse were in 100L together, I left school 2017, worked at 3 different companies, married...even japa and Jesse is currently doing his housemanship through no fault of his.

Omo, e reach to punch pesin for teeth wey misyarn.

20yrs. grin

That one na Elder Jesse. No way is he blameless. How did he do it sef?

Oh it’s 10 yrs. Very possible.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OasisX: 1:20am On Apr 07, 2023
cool

Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Donjazet2: 1:33am On Apr 07, 2023
The kind of things I read here ehh. grin grin

Someone posted "Yorubas will not tolerate their elders being insulted" citing Wole Soyinkas diatribes today.

Also adding that Yorubas will defend Tinubu. See me laughing in hypocrisy. grin grin grin

So what of Obasanjo and pa adebanjo who have been the target of the Batists vitrol?
Abi, Is there any worse Insult than wishing the destruction of one's entire lineage?

More recently what of the mockery of bishop Oyedepo by Batist because of the leaked call, is Oyedepo not Yoruba enough?? grin yeye dey smell.

And the mistakes these foolish tribalists keep making is labelling the Obidient movement an igbo cum ipob movement, like?

Are you guys blind or what? Obi just won won more states in Nigeria than Tinubu (including Rivers) and you're still coloring the movement as an igbo one. Abi you didn't see the 60 thousand votes obi got in Adamawa state? Or the 300k votes in Kaduna state Or the margin he used to win all the federal Capital Territories of Nigeria, from Abuja to Lagos to crossriver. What about Benin people of Edo State? Tiv and idoma people of Benue State? Nasarawa nko?

They jonse una self.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Donjazet2: 1:45am On Apr 07, 2023
Let's look at the strongest voices of the Obidient movement on social Media. The most influential voices with high followings.

Aisha yusufu: Edo State.
FS Yusuf; Edo State.
David hundeyin: Ogun State.
Firstladyship; Rivers State.
Chude; Anambra State
Rinu oduola; Yoruba.
Ndi Kato: Kaduna state.
The Oracle; Kaduna state
; Anambra State.

I don't know if I missed any but you can clearly see that on this list of the most influential Obidients on social media, the Igbos are vastly outnumbered.

Of obi's INEC officially numbers (rigged), other tribes outnumber the igbo votes. Igbo votes are clearly less than 50 percent of obi's numbers so why is this movement still being coloured as an igbo tribal movement??

How can't these people see that Obidients are simply the ordinary Nigerians who are tired of the devilish leadership of Nigeria and what to totally upend the status quo. Not all these nonsense about "political games" and "long term strategy" nonsense that have brought is to where we are today?

The Yoruba Obidients were at the forefront of those calling out Soyinka for his honestly Vey diabolical and foolish statement. Calling Obidient movement fascists, while being selectively blind to the group of supporters that are now actually weaponising state agencies to silent dissent or throwing random accusations of treason charges to intimidate political opponents. How can Soyinka not expect to be called out for such a foolish take? How do you say something soo blatantly false and not expect push back? The same Soyinka who was at the forefront of the fight against Jonathan now comes around to say the rubbish he's saying today? Common!

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OasisX: 1:53am On Apr 07, 2023
grin

This one ain't healed yet. Its gonna take a very long time.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by patrickmuf(m): 1:53am On Apr 07, 2023
A tribalist calling tribalist, tribalist...Some jokes write themselves...

Meanwhile, who wished PO dead?

Excuse yourself, you're not in a position to lead the charge...

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OasisX: 1:56am On Apr 07, 2023
patrickmuf:
A tribalist calling tribalist, tribalist...Some jokes write themselves...

Meanwhile, who wished PO dead?

Excuse yourself, you're not in a position to lead the charge...

grin

Don't mind the Dímwít bruh. He is gonna heal before Tinubu's 100 days in Office.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OasisX: 1:58am On Apr 07, 2023
grin

This Dude never moves pass NL Likes & Shares Mentality. You're listing Twitter Influencers with no electoral values?

Kúkú list LiveLongNprospa, Theflint1 and uncle Sege too..... they rep well on NL! LMFAO

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Donjazet2: 2:03am On Apr 07, 2023
OasisX:


grin

Don't mind the Dímwít bruh. He is gonna be healed before Tinubu's 100 days in Office.

Ohh, listen to the foolish and sadistic propagandist who aligns with evil. Take several seats.

Your oga is the recipient of a stolen mandate and if justice runs its course, he will not smell that seat bit of course I'm already sure you're celebrating the fact that the compromised court of technicalities would continue it's streak of judicial injustices. To you, what the hell is justice??
Bat didn't win Rivers but it was declared for him nonetheless, "and so what"? Am I right hoesis?? wink
Bat suppressed his opponents voices with his boys in Lagos, but "who the fvck cares"? Am I right hoesis? wink

Continue your bare chested evil, boy. It would catch up with you.

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