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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by iamoyindamola(m): 7:48am On Sep 05, 2023
GloriousGbola:


using excel for payroll? ok oo
yes na
Big companies
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by iamoyindamola(m): 7:51am On Sep 05, 2023
One of today's headlines in punch
Everyone just they use this man gba star
40 years was when he first became president

Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by afrodoc2: 8:00am On Sep 05, 2023
BlueRayDick:


Now the bold is what I’m saying , but it is what is sha. Aye olaju La wa.

Please check ur email doc, I just sent u a PM. I need ur opinion on an issue .

Will do so chief.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 8:03am On Sep 05, 2023
iamoyindamola:
One of today's headlines in punch
Everyone just they use this man gba star
40 years was when he first became president

You see punch newspaper ehn? grin They have been at war with the man Buhari for a while now and na Femi Adesina cause am.

In September 2019 Femi Adesina threatened their state house correspondent and by December 2019 they started referring to Buahri's administration as a "regime"

The Special Adviser to President Muhammadu Buhari on Media and Publicity, Femi Adesina, on Monday, unleashed a torrent of abuse and threats on PUNCH’s State House Correspondent, Mr John Ameh.

Ameh and other journalists were at the Press Gallery of the Presidential Villa, Abuja when Adesina, a former President of the Nigeria Guild of Editors, walked in and, without exchanging courtesies, began to scream and gesticulate aggressively at our correspondent in the full glare of his colleagues.

“What was that rubbish you people wrote on Saturday? Adesina asked, referencing a story published by one of our newspapers, Saturday PUNCH, on Saturday.

“Did you say that Mr President did not approve the statement? Let me tell you, if you want to last here, you had better be careful!”

The presidential aide then walked away before our correspondent could utter a word in response.

Our correspondent gathered that Adesina had also threatened to bar members of the State House Press Corps from ‘open coverage’ of the President’s events.

The Saturday PUNCH story, “Tribunal: Buhari retracts, confesses he was under pressure” had quoted Buhari as telling some leaders of the ruling All Progressives Congress who visited him on Friday that he was under tension while the tribunal delivered its judgment on Wednesday

The president’s admission, our correspondent noted in the story published on Saturday, was contrary to an earlier statement issued by Adesina in which he claimed that the President had not experienced any anxiety over the proceedings of the election tribunal.

https://punchng.com/buharis-media-aide-adesina-threatens-punch-state-house-reporter/
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by iamoyindamola(m): 8:15am On Sep 05, 2023
BlueRayDick:


You see punch newspaper ehn? grin They have been at war with the man Buhari for a while now and na Femi Adesina cause am.

In September 2019 Femi Adesina threatened their state house correspondent and by December 2019 they started referring to Buahri's administration as a "regime"



https://punchng.com/buharis-media-aide-adesina-threatens-punch-state-house-reporter/
My own question is will light rail have worked during that period?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 8:20am On Sep 05, 2023
iamoyindamola:

My own question is will light rail have worked during that period?

Going by Jakande’s track record in other sectors/projects he initiated , I am very much convinced it would’ve worked .

All the buildings he put are still standing today
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Olowunl01: 8:33am On Sep 05, 2023
Ibime:


It wasn't 50 billion, it was 18.5bln, and he didn't allege it was stolen, he included mismanagement. The truth will be billions though not 18.5
He initially stated $50billion, then revised further downwards, even you sef agree that the downward figure sef doesnt add up, so for a whole CBN governor that was reckless, hence I believe he shouldnt be the one giving us sermon without much as an apology, his credibility is tainted - no where in the world he keeps his job.

If he had integrity - he would have apologised immediately and tendered his resignation; even in the streets such inaccuracies led to plenty dead bodies.

And regarding NNPC stealing money- shey na today yansh dey for back? Wait make dem open saint Buhari NNPC book grin grin grin



https://www.businessinsider.com/nigeria-is-missing-50-billion-in-oil-2013-12?amp

https://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/21/world/africa/governor-of-nigerias-central-bank-is-fired-after-warning-of-missing-oil-revenue.html

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 8:55am On Sep 05, 2023
BlueRayDick:


You see punch newspaper ehn? grin They have been at war with the man Buhari for a while now and na Femi Adesina cause am.

In September 2019 Femi Adesina threatened their state house correspondent and by December 2019 they started referring to Buahri's administration as a "regime"



https://punchng.com/buharis-media-aide-adesina-threatens-punch-state-house-reporter/

that was when they stopped calling him president and started calling him general muhammadu buhari [rtd]

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 8:58am On Sep 05, 2023
Olowunl01:

He initially stated $50billion, then revised further downwards, even you sef agree that the downward figure sef doesnt add up, so for a whole CBN governor that was reckless, hence I believe he shouldnt be the one giving us sermon without much as an apology, his credibility is tainted - no where in the world he keeps his job.

If he had integrity - he would have apologised immediately and tendered his resignation; even in the streets such inaccuracies led to plenty dead bodies.

And regarding NNPC stealing money- shey na today yansh dey for back? Wait make dem open saint Buhari NNPC book grin grin grin



https://www.businessinsider.com/nigeria-is-missing-50-billion-in-oil-2013-12?amp

https://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/21/world/africa/governor-of-nigerias-central-bank-is-fired-after-warning-of-missing-oil-revenue.html


this is actually why tinubu is advocating for an ERP solution

it would have been close to impossible to properly track what was being spent or mis managed when you have an editable trail and sometimes no trail at all.

for all sanusis faults, we probably would not have come to this if he had been in the seat during the Buhari years
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 8:59am On Sep 05, 2023
iamoyindamola:

My own question is will light rail have worked during that period?

why not? there is nothing magical about light rail


no be japanese bullet trains
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by A001: 9:27am On Sep 05, 2023
You see people developing STEM in their indigenous language, then you decide to be condemning such people. And you still think you've a working brain?

Even if I've such a web platform/portal, you think I'd actually post it here. No, I wouldn't. Just as I wouldn't share it and my other works with most of my relatives and friends. This is because of the problem of low intelligence of a typical African.

Once they see anything like Isese, orisha (deities), and the likes, automatically, they'll tag that thing as evil and demonic and start doing everything in their power to bring it down.

Some people are like viruses, cancers to good things that'd drive the advancement of society.

Some people don't know the level of work, will, and mental effort it takes to embark on some projects.

When you're doing some research projects about science in this part of the world involving the ATR adherents as an agnostic, you're well aware of the risks involved.

Based on experience, you know there's a possibility you encounter one or two rare people that, before you meet them, they'd have been told beforehand in another realm by the past human, their ancestor they worship as an Orisha (deity), that you're coming.

When you finally meet and discuss with them and share some of your posts on this forum about religion and science, and they send messages to you later on, you've to be able to defend yourself.

Great African scientists of the past didn't view time chronologically as we modern humans do. They actually had a deeper understanding of time being just a mental construct.

In the past, parts of Africa were more technologically developed than even the West of today.

Today's science and technology, with all its wondrous achievements and feats, is still pale in comparison with the African science and technology of the past eras when civilizations built by the black Africans of the ancient Egypt, and some other parts of Africa were at the peak of their powers.

While today's science and technology is focused on the material or physical aspects of nature we can see, African science and technology of the past human eras was more comprehensive and explored both the physical and unphysical aspects.

While scientists of today have only been able to explore a tiny segment of the electromagnetic spectrum, the past African scientists explored a much larger part of the spectrum.

When you see a human that can explore many parts of the EM spectrum, you'd think they're doing magic, juju, or supernatural feats and if your level of evolution is low, you'd start worshipping them as God. This is the origin of things like juju, the supernatural, religion, and the likes.

Fortunately, today's scientists are now exploring unphysical aspects of nature.

Even Oyinbo and Arab peoples fear African science and technology because they know parts of Africa were highly developed technologically in the past. That's why they do everything in their power to destroy African cultures and traditions and replace them with theirs.

Mumu Africans also aid these foreign peoples to destroy their own scientific and cultural heritage.

When you want to do scientific research in some parts of Africa involving the ATR adherents, if you don't have some deep knowledge, courage, and will, some of those people can mess up your soul and psyche.

There's no juju involved. It's science. For Africa to grow, it's highly important for people to develop STEM in their native language and culture.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by LordAdam16: 9:32am On Sep 05, 2023
Ibime:


It wasn't 50 billion, it was 18.5bln, and he didn't allege it was stolen, he included mismanagement. The truth will be billions though not 18.5

But the damage was done by the fictitious $50B sum.

He cannot plead ignorance. He knew exactly what he was doing when he spouted that figure.

Needless to say, that mismanagement excuse is pure capping.

The CBN recently revealed they'd not received sales revenue from the NNPC going back to August 2022. Should Shonubi announce that $50B is missing? Should Powell say $1T is missing because the Pentagon has never passed an audit?

Should every Central Bank governor in the world start promulgating imaginary numbers under the guise of criticism.

GEJ should have locked Sanusi up for the remainder of his term for that stunt he pulled.

That stunt by the way is why successive governments will, without exception, keep him at arms length. Dude is a walking grenade.

-Lord

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by monerozi5590: 9:40am On Sep 05, 2023
Oasis003:
"Tinubu said the other day that it was unacceptable that he would spend 90% of his revenue to service debts. I wasn’t spending 90% when I went worldwide to get debt relief.

"Do you think that anybody would give you debt relief today? Buhari was spending money recklessly. I know Buhari didn’t understand economics. I put that in my book. But that he could also be so reckless, I didn’t know.

"Who would you go to today and ask for a favor? Tinubu says he has trimmed the number of people attending the United Nations General Assembly. Is that news? He will meet with Justin Trudeau, and he will meet with Emmanuel Macron. That will not solve any problem."

- President Olusegun Obasanjo



Recklessly! I laugh. As much as I like Obasanjo he should just stop at this point.

Buhari can point to what he did with the loan. Is something we can all see (infrastructure)

No president has invested more in our military like Buhari.

Under Obasanjo, Nigeria took the first highest external loan in 1978. 1 billion US dollars from the the International Capital Market.

In 2004 our total external debt was almost 36 billion dollars.

In 2007 Paris Club Debt Relief and exit from the London Club brought our external debt to 3+ thousand million US dollars.

Under Obasanjo, our domestic debt increased in billion of US dollars.

In the first quarter of 2015, our external debt was 9+ thousand million dollars.

In the first quarter of 2023, our outstanding external debt was 40+ thousand million dollars.

During Buhari's time, the world encountered two global economic crises. The Covid 19 economic crises in 2020 and the global economic crises in 2016.

Sanusi should know better because he was the CBN governor in 2009. The world experienced economic crises in 2008. In 2008, our foreign exchange reserves was almost 60 billion US dollars. Nigeria spent 20 billion of our foreign exchange reserves to absorb the shock of that crisis. Had it been there was not enough foreign exchange reserves, what would have happened?

Nigeria total external debt is the combination of FG and states.

Nigeria total domestic debt is the combination of FG and states.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by seankafor(m): 9:42am On Sep 05, 2023

Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by LordAdam16: 9:45am On Sep 05, 2023
GloriousGbola:


this is actually why tinubu is advocating for an ERP solution

it would have been close to impossible to properly track what was being spent or mis managed when you have an editable trail and sometimes no trail at all.

for all sanusis faults, we probably would not have come to this if he had been in the seat during the Buhari years

Sanusi would have bent the knee or be served Kuje beans.

Emefiele's actions were to avoid the Onnoghen treatment.

Buhari is a socialist. Cheap naira, cheap fuel, and social programs are immutable pillars of his economic vision.

Anyone who did not subscribe to that viewpoint would have gotten the boot.

-Lord
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 9:47am On Sep 05, 2023
LordAdam16:


Sanusi would have bent the knee or be served Kuje beans.

Emefiele's actions were to avoid the Onnoghen treatment.

Buhari is a socialist. Cheap naira, cheap fuel, and social programs are immutable pillars of his economic vision.

Anyone who did not subscribe to that viewpoint would have gotten the boot.

-Lord

yes - which is why sanusi bent the knee for ganduje

all you are saying in the end is that emefiele was picked [by GEJ] because he is a yes man - and retained by buhari for the same reason
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by liveLongNprospa(m): 10:00am On Sep 05, 2023
I don't get this tension for a ruling tomorrow that nobody will agree to and it will get to supreme court.

People need to calm down

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by LordAdam16: 10:02am On Sep 05, 2023
GloriousGbola:


yes - which is why sanusi bent the knee for ganduje

all you are saying in the end is that emefiele was picked [by GEJ] because he is a yes man - and retained by buhari for the same reason

It does not matter what you call him.

The bottom line is everyone picks lieutenants they can comfortably work with.

-Lord
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Olowunl01: 10:09am On Sep 05, 2023
GloriousGbola:


this is actually why tinubu is advocating for an ERP solution

it would have been close to impossible to properly track what was being spent or mis managed when you have an editable trail and sometimes no trail at all.

for all sanusis faults, we probably would not have come to this if he had been in the seat during the Buhari years

Not when we are talking about $50billion, this is Madoff level fraud you think those orgs don't have ERP? Oyinbo to se pencil lo se eraser grin


You think naija corruption is due to lack off audit trail or paper trail? Not when millions of dollars are involved.
The problem I believe is the sheer number of gatekeepers that have been compromised, weak institutions.. whereby those with integrity are outliers an example is what happened in lagos where an exposed corrupt Obasa was refusing to confirm Dr. Abayomi, what does such actions say to those who take their work seriously?

I shudder at the amount of data we collect in Naija and available to goverment to fight fraud, we just choose not to use it.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 10:50am On Sep 05, 2023
Olowunl01:


Not when we are talking about $50billion, this is Madoff level fraud you think those orgs don't have ERP? Oyinbo to se pencil lo se eraser grin


You think naija corruption is due to lack off audit trail or paper trail? Not when millions of dollars are involved.
The problem I believe is the sheer number of gatekeepers that have been compromised, weak institutions.. whereby those with integrity are outliers an example is what happened in lagos where an exposed corrupt Obasa was refusing to confirm Dr. Abayomi, what does such actions say to those who take their work seriously?

I shudder at the amount of data we collect in Naija and available to government to fight fraud, we just choose not to use it.

audit trail means consequences in the future.

long after you are gine and have forgotten about it, it can be spooled out.

typical naija stealing once you are out you have gotten away scot free.

and it gives you a level of accuracy as to what was stolen.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 10:51am On Sep 05, 2023
monerozi5590:




Recklessly! I laugh. As much as I like Obasanjo he should just stop at this point.

Buhari can point to what he did with the loan. Is something we can all see (infrastructure)

No president has invested more in our military like Buhari.

Under Obasanjo, Nigeria took the first highest external loan in 1978. 1 billion US dollars from the the International Capital Market.

In 2004 our total external debt was almost 36 billion dollars.

In 2007 Paris Club Debt Relief and exit from the London Club brought our external debt to 3+ thousand million US dollars.

Under Obasanjo, our domestic debt increased in billion of US dollars.

In the first quarter of 2015, our external debt was 9+ thousand million dollars.

In the first quarter of 2023, our outstanding external debt was 40+ thousand million dollars.

During Buhari's time, the world encountered two global economic crises. The Covid 19 economic crises in 2020 and the global economic crises in 2016.

Sanusi should know better because he was the CBN governor in 2009. The world experienced economic crises in 2008. In 2008, our foreign exchange reserves was almost 60 billion US dollars. Nigeria spent 20 billion of our foreign exchange reserves to absorb the shock of that crisis. Had it been there was not enough foreign exchange reserves, what would have happened?

Nigeria total external debt is the combination of FG and states.

Nigeria total domestic debt is the combination of FG and states.

This ur Buhari fanaticism has reached an all time high! shocked

Just last week Tinubu's newly appointed minister stated the last time Nigeria's economy experienced growth was before Buhari became the president. (which is a fact)

The "Economist" Sanusi u always refenced warned Buhari's government that only investment in the economy could bring about Economic growth and not recklessly amassing debts that will be invested in infrastructure that will not yield any economic benefit . He didn't listen . Sanusi saw the future when he asked: Your citizens will ride on a train and when u ride on a train, in northern Nigeria, in a state like Kano or Katsina, where are u going to? U are not going to an industrial estate to work . U are not going to school? U are not going to farm. U borrow money from China to invest in trains so that ur citizens can ride on them and go to weddings and naming ceremonies

Now Obasanjo is saying the truth which we've always known while u were busy clapping for Buhari borrowing the country broke; , u are now saying Obasanjo doesn't know what he's saying ....Smh

There are points u can use to drag Obj(Like the investment in Power sector that never yielded positive result till date), but the issue of debt is definitely not one. The same Obj that travelled all over the world to have Nigeria's debt forgiven ?

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ibime(m): 10:55am On Sep 05, 2023
Olowunl01:

He initially stated $50billion, then revised further downwards, even you sef agree that the downward figure sef doesnt add up, so for a whole CBN governor that was reckless, hence I believe he shouldnt be the one giving us sermon without much as an apology, his credibility is tainted - no where in the world he keeps his job.

If he had integrity - he would have apologised immediately and tendered his resignation; even in the streets such inaccuracies led to plenty dead bodies.

And regarding NNPC stealing money- shey na today yansh dey for back? Wait make dem open saint Buhari NNPC book grin grin grin



https://www.businessinsider.com/nigeria-is-missing-50-billion-in-oil-2013-12?amp

https://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/21/world/africa/governor-of-nigerias-central-bank-is-fired-after-warning-of-missing-oil-revenue.html


LordAdam16:


But the damage was done by the fictitious $50B sum.

He cannot plead ignorance. He knew exactly what he was doing when he spouted that figure.

Needless to say, that mismanagement excuse is pure capping.

The CBN recently revealed they'd not received sales revenue from the NNPC going back to August 2022. Should Shonubi announce that $50B is missing? Should Powell say $1T is missing because the Pentagon has never passed an audit?

Should every Central Bank governor in the world start promulgating imaginary numbers under the guise of criticism.

GEJ should have locked Sanusi up for the remainder of his term for that stunt he pulled.

That stunt by the way is why successive governments will, without exception, keep him at arms length. Dude is a walking grenade.

-Lord

Can't argue with the above.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 10:57am On Sep 05, 2023
BlueRayDick:


This ur Buhari fanaticism has reached an all time high! shocked

Just last week Tinubu's newly appointed minister stated the last time Nigeria's economy experienced growth was before Buhari became the president. (which is a fact)

The "Economist" Sanusi u always refenced warned Buhari's government that only investment in the economy could bring about Economic growth and not recklessly amassing debts that will be invested in infrastructure that will not yield any economic benefit . He didn't listen . Sanusi saw the future when he asked: Your citizens will ride on a train and when u ride on a train, in northern Nigeria, in a state like Kano or Katsina, where are u going to? U are not going to an industrial estate to work . U are not going to school? U are not going to farm. U borrow money from China to invest in trains so that ur citizens can ride on them and go to weddings and naming ceremonies

Now Obasanjo is saying the truth we've always known while u clap for Buhari , now u are saying Obasanjo doesn't know what he's saying ....Smh

There are points u can use to drag Obj(Like the investment in Power sector that never yielded positive result till date), but the issue of debt is definitely not one. The same Obj that travelled all over the world to have Nigeria's debt forgiven ?

Buhari, the worst president Nigeria will ever have.

Like Oluwon would always say, any of the 3 presidential candidates are better options than that failure of a leader.

Even Tinubu that rode on his horse, have dissociated himself from Buhari, when he saw the rot in the system.

An APC minister is even telling us that the last time we had economic growth was under Jonathan.

I don't think any president can be as worse as Buhari, either living or dead.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 11:00am On Sep 05, 2023
BlueRayDick:

Thank you .

I take it back that Sanusi never criticized Buhari’s government’s financial rescklessness and economic policies .

I was shocked reading this part below from the links u shared. Everything he said in the attached screenshot has happened .

I hope those who hyped the trains and China loans can also admit nothing good came out of that particular project



Hahahaha

I disagree. SE lawmakers is the reason the rail failed in SE/SS. Make dem con2unu taking train ride 2 attend marriage ceremonies

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DissTroy(m): 11:08am On Sep 05, 2023
There should be an actual diagnosis for schizophrenia, megalomania, and self-hate at a go.

"Africans are dull! Africans are stûpid! Africans have low intelligence and are slâves!" Cool story. Now show us something you've done to ameliorate the "dire" situation we've found ourselves. Nope! He prefers a thesis. Theories, criticism, and more. No substance.

It's akin to those who'd criticize electoral processes but never take part in actual canvassing and voting, but would continually insult their countrymen who even make attempts to then ghost when you ask for evidence of them voting.

Actual Africans who are doing the work to salvage the situation are humbled by the enormity of what's before them.

You've had 18 hours to contemplate and the only thing you could counter with is the same thing you're being hammered for - theories without practical applications by yourself.

OTEMperamental dôlt!

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 11:11am On Sep 05, 2023
afrodoc2:


There is always more wealth and influence to be had. Considerable has no limit. On a good day there should be no overlap between a Christian pastor and a traditional monarch who is a custodian of the indigenous gods, but people have been cross carpeting for some time now.

Moslems dey do traditional rulers wella
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 11:26am On Sep 05, 2023
raumdeuter:


Moslems dey do traditional rulers wella

Even Christians sef dey do, but A pastor or an Imam becoming traditional ruler seems a bit off if u ask me.

A traditional ruler is expected to be the head/leader of the Traditional religion practitioners. How will a pastor that has always casted and bind the demons, declare witches and witches powerless all his life suddenly become "Igbakeji orisha", "oko aje" , "oko osho" ?

That's where I'm coming from o

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 11:29am On Sep 05, 2023
izzou:


Buhari, the worst president Nigeria will ever have.

Like Oluwon would always say, any of the 3 presidential candidates are better options than that failure of a leader.

Even Tinubu that rode on his horse, have dissociated himself from Buhari, when he saw the rot in the system.

An APC minister is even telling us that the last time we had economic growth was under Jonathan.

I don't think any president can be as worse as Buhari, either living or dead.

E just be like say Nigeria offend God and God used Buhari to punish the country cry

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 11:29am On Sep 05, 2023
OkpaNsukkaisBae:




Hahahaha

I disagree. SE lawmakers is the reason the rail failed in SE/SS. Make dem con2unu taking train ride 2 attend marriage ceremonies

U too like wahala grin

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DontBullshitMe: 11:58am On Sep 05, 2023
nihilistjnr:


City Boys
Talibans II
Dey Play

These songs are pure fire imo. The rest are hot or miss
You are sleeping on Giza bro??
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 12:03pm On Sep 05, 2023
NNPP expels Kwankwanso

When will PDP have the balls to expel Wike
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 12:34pm On Sep 05, 2023
raumdeuter:
NNPP expels Kwankwanso

When will PDP have the balls to expel Wike

unless the governor gets out from under wikes thumb, it will not happen

Atiku is not going to finance PDP

las las, PDP will become SS party imho

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