the norwegian who used bomb and live-bullets on friday evening to kill more than 90 of his fellow countrymen wanted a "crusade against the spread of Islam".

this is a man who unlike muslims,his country is not under israeli occupation and his country is not under american invasion.his people are not killed during wedding ceremonies as american planes kill muslims in afghanistan.his country is not ruled by an oppressive regime backed by foreigners as muslims countries are ruled by oppressive regimes backed by the west.

my point is:who is really the "terrorist" and who really has a "violent nature"?

who is fighting in defense and who is attacking who?

Police said they were seeking several missing people and the toll could rise to 98, in the worst case.

Lippestad, speaking late on Saturday, did not give more details of possible motives by Breivik.

Breivik hated "cultural marxists," wanted a "crusade" against the spread of Islam and liked guns and weightlifting, web postings, acquaintances and officials said.

Norway gunman deems killings "atrocious,"necessary"
(Reuters)
By Victoria Klesty and Gwladys Fouche | Reuters – 57 mins ago

SUNDVOLLEN, Norway (Reuters) - A Norwegian right-wing fanatic who killed at least 92 people believes his acts were atrocious but necessary, his lawyer said, as the nation mourned victims of its worst attacks since World War Two.

Police were investigating on Sunday whether a possible second gunman took part in the shooting massacre and bomb attack on Friday that traumatized a normally peaceful Nordic country.

But they also defended the speed of their response to the second stage of the attack when the gunman was able to shoot unchallenged for a prolonged period on an island outside Oslo, shortly after the huge bomb went off in the capital.

In his first comment via a lawyer since he was arrested, 32-year-old Anders Behring Breivik expressed willingness to explain himself in court at a hearing likely to be held on Monday about extending his custody.

"He has said that he believed the actions were atrocious, but that in his head they were necessary," lawyer Geir Lippestad told independent TV2 news, adding that his client admitted to both the shootings and the bombing.

Police said Breivik gave himself up to armed officers when they arrived on the small island of Utoeya in a lake about 42 km (26 miles) northwest of Oslo where at least 85 people were gunned down. Most were teenagers and young adults attending a summer camp of the youth wing of Norway's ruling Labor Party.

About 650 people were on the island when the gunman, wearing a police uniform according to witnesses, opened fire. Police said it took them one hour to stop the massacre from when they first received information about the shootings, the worst by a single gunman in modern times.

RESPONSE TIME

"The response time from when we got the message was quick. There were problems with transport out to the island," police chief Sveinung Sponheim said, defending the delay.

Witnesses said the gunman picked off his victims at will, forcing youngsters to scatter in panic or to jump into the lake to swim for the mainland.

Breivik was also arrested for the bombing in Oslo's government district that killed seven people hours earlier. Norway's toughest sentence is 21 years in jail. Police believe Breivik drove to Utoeya after the explosion in the capital.

Survivors, relatives of those killed and supporters planned a procession to mourn the dead at Sundvollen on Sunday, near the island where the massacre took place.

King Harald is due to attend a service in Oslo cathedral, a few hundred meters (yards) from where a bomb devastated government buildings including the offices of Labor Prime Minister Jens Stoltenberg.

Police said they were seeking several missing people and the toll could rise to 98, in the worst case.

Lippestad, speaking late on Saturday, did not give more details of possible motives by Breivik.

Breivik hated "cultural marxists," wanted a "crusade" against the spread of Islam and liked guns and weightlifting, web postings, acquaintances and officials said.

A video posted on the YouTube website showed several pictures of Breivik, including one of him in a scuba diving outfit pointing an automatic weapon.

"Before we can start our crusade we must do our duty by decimating cultural marxism," said a caption under the video called "Knights Templar 2083" on the YouTube website, which took down the video on Saturday.

A Norwegian website provided a link to a 1,500 page electronic manifesto which says Breivik was the author. It was not possible to verify who posted the video or wrote the book.

"Once you decide to strike, it is better to kill too many than not enough, or you risk reducing the desired ideological impact of the strike," the book said.

IMMIGRATION

Norway has traditionally been open to immigration, which has been criticized by the populist Progress Party, of which Breivik was a former member. The Labor Party, whose youth camp Breivik attacked, has long backed multi-culturalism to accommodate Norway's different ethnic communities.

About 100 people stood solemnly early on Sunday at a makeshift vigil near Oslo's main church, laying flowers and lighting candles. Soldiers with guns and wearing bullet-proof vests blocked streets leading to the government district.

"We are all in sorrow, everybody is scared," said Imran Shah, a Norwegian taxi driver of Pakistani heritage, as a light summer drizzle fell on unusually empty Oslo streets.

"At first, people thought Muslims were behind this," he said, referring to some initial suspicions that the attacks might have been by Al Qaeda, perhaps in protest at NATO-member Norway's role in Afghanistan or Iraq.

Some terrified survivors of the shooting rampage said bullets came from at least two sides.

"We are not at all certain" about whether he acted alone, police chief Sponheim said. "That is one of the things that the investigation will concentrate on."

"I heard screams. I heard people begging for their lives and I heard shots. He just blew them away," Labor Party youth member Erik Kursetgjerde, 18, told Reuters.

"I was certain I was going to die," he said. "People ran everywhere. They panicked and climbed into trees. People got trampled."

Breivik, tall and blond, owned a farming company called Breivik Geofarm, which a supply firm said he had used to buy fertilizer -- possibly to make the Oslo bomb.

Home-grown anti-government militants have struck elsewhere in the past, notably in the United States, where Timothy McVeigh killed 168 people with a truck bomb in Oklahoma City in 1995.

The district attacked is the heart of power in Norway. But security is not tight in a country unused to such violence and better known for awarding the Nobel Peace Prize and mediating in conflicts, including the Middle East and Sri Lanka.

(Additional reporting by Walter Gibbs, Anna Ringstrom, Henrik Stoelen, Terje Solsvik, Patrick Lannin, Johan Ahlander, Wojciech Moskwa, John Acher and Ole Petter Skonnord in Oslo, William Maclean in London; Writing by Alister Doyle; Editing by Matthew Jones/David Stamp)

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http://news.yahoo.com/norway-suspect-deems-killings-atrocious-needed-013354792.html

Above is an excerpt from the manifesto which lists personal details about Breivik like his religion and his political views
What was he doing in Nigeria. Experiencing a Boko haram get together

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2018172/Anders-Behring-Breivik-Utoya-gunman-admits-carried-Norway-massacre.html#ixzz1T1QZgOJN

I hope the mods would be just and place this thread on the front page of nairaland.not only propaganda threads against islam deserve that treatment.

@op dis is a misleading topic, no where in d article shows that he is a christian, as far as I kno many norwegians are of athiest belief, kindly correct.cheers

^^^^^He is a chritian. Have you not been watching international news??

dollz:

@op dis is a misleading topic, no where in d article shows that he is a christian, as far as I kno many norwegians are of athiest belief, kindly correct.cheers

He is indeed not just a Christian, but he has been described as a fundamentalist Christian as well i.e. he is a strict adherent of the basic tenets of the Christendom. The OP is on point.

LagosShia:

the norwegian who used bomb and live-bullets on friday evening to kill more than 90 of his fellow countrymen wanted a "crusade against the spread of Islam".

this is a man who unlike muslims,his country is not under israeli occupation and his country is not under american invasion.his people are not killed during wedding ceremonies as american planes kill muslims in afghanistan.his country is not ruled by an oppressive regime backed by foreigners as muslims countries are ruled by oppressive regimes backed by the west.

my point is:who is really the "terrorist" and who really has a "violent nature"?

who is fighting in defense and who is attacking who?

What, are you suggesting that this attack means christans are violent? Are you trying to play the "muslim victim" card again?

Don't be reetarded abeg. This horrible attack has almost nothing in common with the typical islamic terrorist act. For one, there is very little religion involved. The guy wasn't shouting "blood of Jebus" or  "Jehovah akbar" while he was shooting people. He wasn't associated to any violent religious groups and we was at most a nominal christian just like the majority of Norwegians. The attack wasn't even aimed at muslims or non-christians. In fact the only differences between the shooter and his victims were their political views and their level of sanity.

Everybody knows that this was a purely political attack by a right-wing nutcase. Your attempt to use one single sentence in a very long story to twist the truth is completely pathetic.

Islam has 2 main problems: violent fundamentalists, and apologist m0r0ns like you who make the vast majority of sensible, moderate muslims look like ignorant savages.

Please do all of Islam a favour and STFU.

**Edited to fix formatting problem

Evil Brain:

What, are you suggesting that this attack means christans are violent? Are you trying to play the "muslim victim" card again?

Don't be reetarded abeg. This horrible attack has almost nothing in common with the typical islamic terrorist act. For one, there is very little religion involved. The guy wasn't shouting "blood of Jebus" or  "Jehovah akbar" while he was shooting people. He wasn't associated to any violent religious groups and we was at most a nominal christian just like the majority of Norwegians. The attack wasn't even aimed at muslims or non-christians. In fact the only differences between the shooter and his victims were their political views and their level of sanity.

Everybody knows that this was a purely political attack by a right-wing nutcase. Your attempt to use one single sentence in a very long story to twist the truth is completely pathetic.

Islam has 2 main problems: violent fundamentalists, and apologist m0r0ns like you who make the vast majority of sensible, moderate muslims look like ignorant savages.

Please do islam a favour and STFU.uting "blood of Jebus" or  "Jehovah akbar" while he was shooting people. He wasn't associated to any violent religious groups and we was at most a nominal christian just like the majority of Norwegians. The attack wasn't even aimed at muslims or non-christians. In fact the only differences between the shooter and his victims were their political views and their level of sanity.

Everybody knows that this was a purely political attack by a right-wing nutcase. Your attempt to use one single sentence in a very long story to twist the truth is completely pathetic.

Islam has 2 main problems: violent fundamentalists, and apologist m0r0ns like you who make the vast majority of sensible, moderate muslims look like ignorant savages.

Please do all of Islam a favour and STFU.
this attack means christans are violent? Are you trying to play the "muslim victim" card again?

Don't be reetarded abeg. This horrible attack has almost nothing in common with the typical islamic terrorist act. For one, there is very little religion involved. The guy wasn't shouting "blood of Jebus" or  "Jehovah akbar" while he was shooting people. He wasn't associated to any violent religious groups and we was at most a nominal christian just like the majority of Norwegians. The attack wasn't even aimed at muslims or non-christians. In fact the only differences between the shooter and his victims were their political views and their level of sanity.

Everybody knows that this was a purely political attack by a right-wing nutcase. Your attempt to use one single sentence in a very long story to twist the truth is completely pathetic.

Islam has 2 main problems: violent fundamentalists, and apologist m0r0ns like you who make the vast majority of sensible, moderate muslims look like ignorant savages.

Please do islam a favour and STFU.uting "blood of Jebus" or  "Jehovah akbar" while he was shooting people. He wasn't associated to any violent religious groups and we was at most a nominal christian just like the majority of Norwegians. The attack wasn't even aimed at muslims or non-christians. In fact the only differences between the shooter and his victims were their political views and their level of sanity.

Everybody knows that this was a purely political attack by a right-wing nutcase. Your attempt to use one single sentence in a very long story to twist the truth is completely pathetic.

Islam has 2 main problems: violent fundamentalists, and apologist m0r0ns like you who make the vast majority of sensible, moderate muslims look like ignorant savages.

Please do all of Islam a favour and STFU.

Classical 'True scotsman' fallacy

Evil Brain:

What, are you suggesting that this attack means christans are violent? Are you trying to play the "muslim victim" card again?

Don't be reetarded abeg. This horrible attack has almost nothing in common with the typical islamic terrorist act. For one, there is very little religion involved. The guy wasn't shouting "blood of Jebus" or  "Jehovah akbar" while he was shooting people. He wasn't associated to any violent religious groups and we was at most a nominal christian just like the majority of Norwegians. The attack wasn't even aimed at muslims or non-christians. In fact the only differences between the shooter and his victims were their political views and their level of sanity.

Everybody knows that this was a purely political attack by a right-wing nutcase. Your attempt to use one single sentence in a very long story to twist the truth is completely pathetic.

Islam has 2 main problems: violent fundamentalists, and apologist m0r0ns like you who make the vast majority of sensible, moderate muslims look like ignorant savages.

Please do islam a favour and STFU.uting "blood of Jebus" or  "Jehovah akbar" while he was shooting people. He wasn't associated to any violent religious groups and we was at most a nominal christian just like the majority of Norwegians. The attack wasn't even aimed at muslims or non-christians. In fact the only differences between the shooter and his victims were their political views and their level of sanity.

Everybody knows that this was a purely political attack by a right-wing nutcase. Your attempt to use one single sentence in a very long story to twist the truth is completely pathetic.

Islam has 2 main problems: violent fundamentalists, and apologist m0r0ns like you who make the vast majority of sensible, moderate muslims look like ignorant savages.

Please do all of Islam a favour and STFU.

So until a Christian terrorist shouts “Jehovah akbar” (who on earth knows what that means!),he is not Christian enough.

And if not that terrorists or even freedom fighters who are muslims shout “Allahu Akbar” (i've personally never heard one!),they would not be associated with islam.may be you should send them a letter to stop “shouting”.or you should get rid yourself of american cliches (usually depicted in hollywood movies) and stereotypes and free yourself from brainwashing.

While muslims are synonymous with the phrase “Allahu Akbar” as a daily and habitual chant,Christians are not knowns for shouting what you’re suggesting or any other phrase.may be “halleluyah” would come close but not good enough!

Besides,it is great to know that the vast majority of muslims in your eyes are “sensible” and “moderate”.they are no longer “brainwashed” and “forced” to believe.

Infact replying to you does not need more than 3 letters: LOL!

The thing is that when we heard the Bang(i didn't hear it(music)) people thought it was Islamics terrorists because of Norways involvement in Afghanistan, cartoon pic etc. The media in Norway didn't mention this, but foreign news used that link.

Alot of rumors exposed on facebook and other forums saying get rid off all Muslims from Norway and treats coming to foreigners about beating. So when the news broke saying it was a blue-eyed, blond man alot of us was really revealed. I believe that foreigners here would have fazed the same as muslimes did in America after 9/11.

But this massacre is terrible. I feel so much for the death and family members who are still looking for their loved ones. Till now 93 people has died.

alaper:

Classical 'True scotsman' fallacy

I'm not claiming that he's not a real Christian, I'm saying that the killings were not motivated by religion therefore, OP's attempt to relate them to Islamic fundamentalism is a logical fallacy.

Obviously, Christians are just as capable of terrible acts of violence as members of any other religion. There are Christian killers and Muslim armed robbers and devil worshipping murderers.  A violent islamist is not the same as a Muslim who just happens to kill someone. Even Nidal Malik Hasan (the Fort Hood shooter) isn't officially considered to be a terrorist despite him being a muslim and killing 13 american soilders.

The thing is that nowadays its extremely rare for any one to cite Christianity as a justification for killing. Anders Breivik killed because of his crazy political views not because he thought the bible told him to. He wasn't recruited or radicalised in a church. He's not known to be in contact with any "radical Christian pastors" (if such people exist), and there were few references to Christianity in his writings. He is not known to have harmed anybody because of their religion: his attack was specifically targeted at government workers and members of the Norwegian Labour party.

The guy even stated in his manifesto that the killings were a sacrifice to gain publicity for his book. No mention of Jesus, or the Holy Ghost or heaven. Compare that to your average Islamic militant. They wear turbans and sing in Arabic and count prayer beads. They make "martyr videos" where they talk of Allah's glorious reward awaiting them in paradise. They encourage other Muslims (note: only Muslims) to join the "jihad". They kill "infidels" and fellow muslims who aren't radical enough for them.

If Breivik had done anything remotely similar to these things, It would be a completely different matter, but he didn't. Instead, it seems he's just your ordinary, garden-variety crazy person. That he happens to be a Christian is completely irrelevant.

claremont:

The OP is on point.

I think he's just gloating over ONE "Christian terrorist".

MyJoe:

I think he's just gloating over ONE "Christian terrorist".

[size=16pt]OK lets assume that the he-goat of a man is actually a "christian fanatic", pray, tell how many of such "christian fanatical" acts have taken place in the last 20 years?

Now if you want to know about islamic militancy check out www.thereligionofpeace.com for the gruesome tally. [/size]

Someone wanted to steal the glory!

Islamic extremist claims responsibility for Oslo bombing, group retracts

http://theforeigner.no/pages/news/islamic-extremist-claims-responsibility-for-oslo-bombing-group-retracts/

lord have mercy.

violent muslims n christians.

^^dont even go there.

not too happy with what i've been reading these past few days. [nothing to do with nl oh- @ the ones living and dying here]

all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God.

except the Pagans. but we are going to start learning the art of sinning from you fellas now. the art of brainwashing and force to make ourselves heard.

you played dirty, who knows what we might do.

^^yeah, whatever.

reinvent the wheel.

we did that. its now time to reinvent human ideology and to reinstate the Gods.

^^yes, you're the only one who knows anything about paganism no doubt.

ofcourse not. there are millions of Pagan ppls around the world.

im just an instrument, something like a sharp object.

^^yes, nobody knows anything about paganism besides the "pagans".

they do know. but their views are a bit misguided. its our duty to guide them.

^^knock yourself out.

hope you can find Christ after leading others astray and after many have died while following your tutelage.

died?? u talk of death wasnt it u xtians who killed so many ppl to gain footage in this accursed world of ours

u who talk of death, someday you will realise. or maybe u wont.

^^reread my first response to you on this thread.

Norway mourns victims of anti-Islam "Crusader"
By Victoria Klesty and Gwladys Fouche | Reuters – 13 hours ago


SUNDVOLLEN, Norway (Reuters) - Norway mourned on Sunday 93 people killed in a shooting spree and car bombing by a Norwegian who saw his attacks as[b] "atrocious, but necessary" to defeat liberal immigration policies and the spread of Islam.[/b]
In his first comment via a lawyer since his arrest, Anders Behring Breivik, 32, said he wanted to explain himself at a court hearing on Monday about extending his custody.
In a rambling manifesto before the attacks, Breivik said he was part of a [size=18pt]crusade [/size]to fight a tide of Islam.
"He has said that he believed the actions were atrocious, but that in his head they were necessary," Geir Lippestad said.
The lawyer said Breivik had admitted to Friday's shootings at a Labour party youth camp and the bombing that killed seven people in Oslo's government district a few hours earlier.
However, "he feels that what he has done does not deserve punishment," Lippestad told NRK public television.
"What he has said is that he wants a change in society and in his understanding, in his head, there must be a revolution."
Oslo's acting police chief Sveinung Sponheim confirmed to reporters that Breivik would be able to speak to the court. It was not clear whether the hearing would be closed or in public.
"He has admitted to the facts of both the bombing and the shooting, although he's not admitting criminal guilt," Sponheim said, adding that Breivik had said he acted alone.
Police were checking this because some witness statements from the island spoke of more than one gunman, Sponheim said.
NATIONAL TRAGEDY
The violence, Norway's worst since World War Two, has profoundly shocked the usually peaceful nation of 4.8 million.
King Harald and Prime Minister Jens Stoltenberg were among mourners at a service in Oslo cathedral, where the premier spoke emotionally about the victims, some of whom he knew.
"This represents a national tragedy," he declared.
Tearful people placed flowers and candles outside the cathedral. Soldiers with guns and wearing bullet-proof vests blocked streets leading to the government district.
Police said Breivik surrendered when they arrived on the small island of Utoeya in a lake northwest of Oslo after he had shot dead at least 85 people, mostly young people attending a summer camp of the youth wing of Norway's ruling Labour Party.
About 650 people were on the island when Breivik, wearing a police uniform, opened fire. Police said it took them an hour from when they were first alerted to stop the massacre, the worst by a single gunman in modern times.
An inadequate boat and a decision to await a special armed unit from Oslo, 45 km (28 miles) away, delayed the response.
"When so many people and equipment were put into it, the boat started to take on water, so that the motor stopped," said Erik Berga, police operations chief in Buskerud County.
A person wounded in the shooting died in hospital, raising the death toll to 93, Norway's NRK television said. Police say some people remain missing. Ninety-seven people were wounded.
Otto Loevik had to decide who to pick up on his boat and who to leave behind as he came under fire trying to rescue fleeing teenagers. "He remembers the faces of the youths he left behind," Loevik's wife, Wenche, told Reuters.
"He told me: 'I had to chose who to pick up on the boat and who to leave behind. Who do you choose?'," she said. Her husband, who declined to be interviewed, rescued some 40 to 50 terrified youths.
Norwegian police said a British police officer was providing technical expertise in the investigation but that they had not requested any separate inquiries in foreign countries.
ANTI-JIHAD MANIFESTO
Breivik posted a 1,500-page manifesto, written in English, on Friday, describing his violent philosophy and how he planned his onslaught and made explosives.
The killings would draw attention to the manifesto entitled "2083-A European Declaration of Independence," Breivik wrote.
"Once you decide to strike, it is better to kill too many than not enough, or you risk reducing the desired ideological impact of the strike," he added.
The manifesto posted by Breivik, a self-styled founder member of a modern Knights Templar organisation, hints at a wider conspiracy of[size=18pt] self-appointed crusaders[/size] and shows a mind influenced by the fantasy imagery of online gaming.
"The order is to serve as an armed Indigenous Rights Organisation and as [size=18pt]a Crusader Movement (anti-Jihad movement)," [/size]he writes in the document, chunks of which are cut and pasted from other far-right, anti-Islam documents on the Internet.
Breivik says he is not against immigrants who integrate and reserves a lot of his fury for a liberal European political establishment he views as promoting Europe's destruction.
He hints at a wider conspiracy in the document, saying that the Knights Templar, a medieval order of crusading warrior monks, had been reconstituted in London in 2002.
Breivik attacks the "Islamic colonisation and Islamisation of Western Europe" and the "rise of cultural Marxism/multiculturalism."
A video posted on YouTube called "Knights Templar 2083" showed pictures of Breivik, including one of him in a scuba diving outfit pointing an automatic weapon.
Parliament, in recess until October, is to be recalled for a memorial service. Party leaders will discuss how the attacks would affect campaigning for local elections in September.
"We will have an election, we will have a political debate," said Stoltenberg, premier and Labour Party leader.
"But I believe everyone understands that we have to discuss the form of the debate , to avoid a conflict between the political debate and the need to show dignity and compassion."
Erna Solberg, head of the main opposition Conservative Party, said: "We have to agree the rules of the game."
IMMIGRATION
Norway has long been open to immigration, which has been criticised by the populist Progress Party, to which Breivik once belonged. Labour, whose youth camp he attacked, backs multiculturalism to accommodate different ethnic communities.
"Norway will keep going. But there will be a Norway before and after the dramatic attacks on Friday," Stoltenberg said.
"But I am quite sure that you will also recognise Norway afterwards -- it will be an open Norway, a democratic Norway and a Norway where we take care of each other."
The attacks have prompted soul-searching in Norway.
At Oslo cathedral, Britt Aanes, a priest aged 42 said the fact that Breivik was Norwegian had affected people deeply.
"In one way, I think it was good that it was not a Muslim terrorist group behind this," she said. It pointed up the complexity of immigration and inter-religious issues for Norwegians, "a small and privileged people," she said.
"We must open our eyes and not simply think that we can keep all this wealth to ourselves."
Some analysts questioned whether Norway, focussed on al Qaeda-type militancy, had overlooked domestic threats.
"While the main terrorist threat to democratic societies around the world still comes from Islamist extremists, the horrific events in Norway are a reminder that white far-right extremism is also a major and possibly growing threat," said James Brandon, research head at London's Quilliam think-tank.
Home-grown anti-government figures have struck elsewhere, notably in the United States, where Timothy McVeigh killed 168 people with a truck bomb in Oklahoma City in 1995.
Grief was still raw for survivors and relatives clustered at a hotel in Sundvollen near Utoeya island. They huddled together, many with bloodshot eyes, at terrace tables.
(Additional reporting by Walter Gibbs, Anna Ringstrom, Henrik Stoelen, Terje Solsvik, Patrick Lannin, Johan Ahlander, Wojciech Moskwa, John Acher and Ole Petter Skonnord in Oslo, William Maclean in London; Writing by Alistair Lyon; Editing by Jon Boyle)

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/norway-suspect-deems-killings-atrocious-needed-013910644.html

tpia@:

^^reread my first response to you on this thread.

no u have not realised completely.

Evil Brain:

I'm not claiming that he's not a real Christian, I'm saying that the killings were not motivated by religion therefore, OP's attempt to relate them to Islamic fundamentalism is a logical fallacy.

That is the sickness people are talking about.
Simply because an al-qaeda terrorist is carrying a beard or putting on a turban does not also mean that it is Islam that asked him to think or act in that particular way.people interprete things the way they sometimes like.

Also,because the Norwegian is blonde and wearing a t-shirt and is not carrying a cross does not mean he was not either motivated by his religion.

If you read news very well,you will come to see that the guy insisted he is carrying out a CRUSADE against the spread of islam. If you know history,you should know who started the crusades and what crusade stands for.crusade is an extremist Christian religious movement motivated by their Christian identity and their hate for muslims.this guy is using the word “crusade” and you are denyng he is not motivated by Christianity.

Obviously, Christians are just as capable of terrible acts of violence as members of any other religion. There are Christian killers and Muslim armed robbers and devil worshipping murderers.  A violent islamist is not the same as a Muslim who just happens to kill someone. Even Nidal Malik Hasan (the Fort Hood shooter) isn't officially considered to be a terrorist despite him being a muslim and killing 13 american soilders.

The Norwegian guy did not commit an act of violence.he committed a massacre and even the western media recognizes it as an act of terror in his bid to launch a CRUSADE!

The thing is that nowadays its extremely rare for any one to cite Christianity as a justification for killing. Anders Breivik killed because of his crazy political views not because he thought the bible told him to. He wasn't recruited or radicalised in a church. He's not known to be in contact with any "radical Christian pastors" (if such people exist), and there were few references to Christianity in his writings. He is not known to have harmed anybody because of their religion: his attack was specifically targeted at government workers and members of the Norwegian Labour party.

The extremism of the 3 crusades by Christians with papal blessing centuries ago is still having its effect today.

This guy read anti-islam materials and he is trying to “emulate” his predecessors who wanted a ticket to heaven from the pope and saw it necessary to launch a CRUSADE!

The guy even stated in his manifesto that the killings were a sacrifice to gain publicity for his book. No mention of Jesus, or the Holy Ghost or heaven. Compare that to your average Islamic militant. They wear turbans and sing in Arabic and count prayer beads. They make "martyr videos" where they talk of Allah's glorious reward awaiting them in paradise. They encourage other Muslims (note: only Muslims) to join the "jihad". They kill "infidels" and fellow muslims who aren't radical enough for them.

The word CRUSADE is more than any “singing” and turban.it carries a lot of Christian meaning and weight to “support” the cross.dont you understand the meaning of the term “crusade” which fanatical Nigerian pastors up to this day use to describe their gatherings and prayer rallies aimed at emptying the pockets of Nigerians?
The Norwegian also left a video behind.

If Breivik had done anything remotely similar to these things, It would be a completely different matter, but he didn't. Instead, it seems he's just your ordinary, garden-variety crazy person. That he happens to be a Christian is completely irrelevant.

He says it is a CRUSADE!