We hope so

Is it not APC again, trust them at your own peril, this is where there brain power will be exhausted, as a matter of fact, they've made already made provisions for what is to come

Foolishbuhari:

The votes from the PU would be voided

... Greenlight to go and cause vawulence whereever your opposition is having larger votes

bixton:




The only way BIVAS can terminate malpractice and rigging is when the device can actually authenticate and validate voters' finger print and facial recognition.

Of course it can do it

Oyiboman69:
this is where the rigging comes to play... before accreditation will be over and ready for voting, the voters will be all exhausted as there will be no time to register all the number of voters in that unit. They will now fill in the rest available space of that entire unit.

There are also some area where there is no network service, like the riverine areas which the results will not be uploaded at that particular day....

Oga it seems you have never voted with the BVAS machine.
Only those accredited will be able to vote

Oyiboman69:
not all units will be able to transmit result on that same day. The process of accreditation before voting is time consuming and there is no way they can exhaust all the total voters in that particular unit. eg, if the total register voters in a particular unit is five thousand registered voters... the numbers of people accredited to vote cannot be up to 5000 and the 4pm closing time can never be enough. The rest will be manipulated by the poling officers who are already compromised by the ward executives

Oga there is no polling unit with 5000 registered voters.

Going by the new electoral law only those accredited can be eligible to vote and be counted for

PaChukwudi44:

Oga it seems you have never voted with the BVAS machine.
Only those accredited will be able to vote

yes...after the voting, the Ward leaders will accredit and vote the rest before submission....

PaChukwudi44:

Oga there is no polling unit with 5000 registered voters.

Going by the new electoral law only those accredited can be eligible to vote and be counted for

I cited that as an example... There is no way after accreditation and voting, there will be enough time for all the registered voters to vote in a particular unit. those guys have plenty voters card in their disposal to vote and thumbprint the rest in their favour and don't just talk about thumb printing cos it can always be bypassed...

Oyiboman69:
I cited that as an example... There is no way after accreditation and voting, there will be enough time for all the registered voters to vote in a particular unit. those guys have plenty voters card in their disposal to vote and thumbprint the rest in their favour and don't just talk about thumb printing cos it can always be bypassed...

oga it appears you dont understand exactly how the system works.You obviously have never voted with either the smart card or the BVAS else you wont be spinning the type of jargon you are spinning

Oyiboman69:
yes...after the voting, the Ward leaders will accredit and vote the rest before submission....

Lol how exactly are the ward leaders supposed to do that? How exactly do you think the BVAS accredits voters?

PaChukwudi44:

It is not a worthless scheme.It will go a long way in eliminating stuffing of ballot boxes, writing of results and magic at INEC collation centres

How, did it prevent the Ekiti rigging or vote buying?

DaCharis2016:
How, did it prevent the Ekiti rigging or vote buying?

It cannot prevent vote buying but it surely did stop other forms of rigging in ekiti state

cktheluckyman:


oga it appears you dont understand exactly how the system works.You obviously have never voted with either the PVC or the BVAS else you wont be spinning the type of jargon you are spinning

why not allow someone to school you or share your learned opinion. That's the way it will be rigged particularly the area where there will be no network. Do you know why most politician always emphasized on structure?... the present leadership of each ward will make sure that they do anything to win their ward even if it means bribing the inec official on ground. however, those areas where there are some stubborn voters, they'll make sure that there'll be no enough or no material to go round in other not to get a block votes from those areas.

Do you remember the last election where they claim there's no network and they embark on manual voting, that same thing will still play out in this election, particularly in the riverine areas where there is no network to upload result.

seunlayi:
... Greenlight to go and cause vawulence whereever your opposition is having larger votes

fresh elections will be held in cancelled polling units

Oyiboman69:
why not allow someone to school you or share your learned opinion. That's the way it will be rigged particularly the area where there will be no network. Do you know why most politician always emphasized on structure?... the present leadership of each ward will make sure that they do anything to win their ward even if it means bribing the inec official on ground. however, those areas where there are some stubborn voters, they'll make sure that there'll be no enough or no material to go round in other not to get a block votes from those areas.

Do you remember the last election where they claim there's no network and they embark on manual voting, that same thing will still play out in this election, particularly in the riverine areas where there is no network to upload result.

Oga elections will be voided in all polling units where the BVAS machine failed.Download and read for free the new electoral act and stop arguing childishly.

There is nothing like manual voting or incidence forms under the new eelctoral act. Nobody will be able to vote without been accredited by the BVAS machine

Oyiboman69:
not all units will be able to transmit result on that same day. The process of accreditation before voting is time consuming and there is no way they can exhaust all the total voters in that particular unit. eg, if the total register voters in a particular unit is five thousand registered voters... the numbers of people accredited to vote cannot be up to 5000 and the 4pm closing time can never be enough. The rest will be manipulated by the poling officers who are already compromised by the ward executives

Which is where the party agents come in. Everyone accredited must vote.

pacespot:


That also opens up another channel for election rigging with politicians using political thugs to disrupt elections in the opposition strongholds thereby putting those results up for disqualification

I think there's a clause for a redo of voting in the place if it's up to a certain threshold...
Voters suppression has always been baba Chicago's strategy.

cktheluckyman:


Lol how exactly are the ward leaders supposed to do that? How exactly do you think the BVAS accredits voters?

do you know that you can use kernel to thumbprint or put your fingers in a condom and thou?... that's some of the many tricks I'll reveal to you. how will an inec official fare in a remote village where there is no internet network or calls and and he's surrounded by unknown faces....
It is either they take the money and allow them to do their thing or refuses the cash and allow them do their thing.

It is what I know and that's the way it is. That's why in Nigeria, you can only win election with your foot soldiers leaded by strong governor.....

Foolishbuhari:

Which is where the party agents come in. Everyone accredited must vote.

the party agent even in another party's strong hold still has their price. A LP agent in PDP strong hold who have been paid or not given any money by his party will always accept a potential offer from them...
This is Nigeria where hunger has made most of her citizens have little or no conscience. there are many things I do not know my friend...this one i am familiar with....

Oyiboman69:
do you know that you can use kernel to thumbprint or put your fingers in a condom and thou?... that's some of the many tricks I'll reveal to you. how will an inec official fare in a remote village where there is no internet network or calls and and he's surrounded by unknown faces....
It is either they take the money and allow them to do their thing or refuses the cash and allow them do their thing.

It is what I know and that's the way it is. That's why in Nigeria, you can only win election with your foot soldiers leaded by strong governor.....

Oga once there is no network on BVAS machine,the election in that polling unit will be canceled.How many times do I have to tell you this.

The BVAS will never accredit anyone with another person's PVC and that is the essence of the BVAS in the first place.
FYI each polling unit has its own BVAS machine supplied to it.The BVAS automatically records and transmits the number of accredited voters in each polling unit to the INEC portal.

If the final number of voters in an election exceeds the number recorded by the BVAS machine during accreditation then the election will be voided

cktheluckyman:


Oga once there is no network on BVAS machine,the election in that polling unit will be canceled.How many times do I have to tell you this.

The BVAS will never accredit anyone with another person's PVC and that is the essence of the BVAS in the first place.
FYI each polling unit has its own BVAS machine supplied to it.The BVAS automatically records and transmits the number of accredited voters in each polling unit to the INEC portal.

If the final number of voters in an election exceeds the number recorded by the BVAS machine during accreditation then the election will be voided

we're in the riverine area for ages and there is no such thing cos even the electoral laws does not disenfranchise the voters in that region....
Its been known to the nation that there is no network connection in a the riverine area and we have to go manual.
The area in the Niger delta which produce the major oil in the country cannot vote because there is no network?...this is one of the many few the government have to work on for a free and fair election. I don't know if there are places in the North without network but here in the south, Delta, bayelsa,river state, we have such places here and the government cannot deny that. I'll have love to bet with you that at the end of the day, the machine will be put aside in some places and go manual....

Oyiboman69:
we're in the riverine area for ages and there is no such thing cos even the electoral laws does not disenfranchise the voters in that region....
Its been known to the nation that there is no network connection in a the riverine area and we have to go manual.
The area in the Niger delta which produce the major oil in the country cannot vote because there is no network?...this is one of the many few the government have to work on for a free and fair election. I don't know if there are places in the North without network but here in the south, Delta, bayelsa,river state, we have such places here and the government cannot deny that. I'll have love to bet with you that at the end of the day, the machine will be put aside in some places and go manual....

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Oga nobody will vote without the BVAS machine.That is what the new electoral laws says.If you are able to log into nairaalnd with your riverine network,it should be enough for you to vote during the 2023 elections.

It is no longer called the elctoral bill.It is now law and must be strictly adhered to.

There is nothing like manual accreditation or incident form under the new electoral law.If the BVAS machine does not work for whatever reason including network the eelctions in that polling unit willl have to be cancelled and conducted at a later date

Festus Okoye is from Abia. Hope you know what that means?

Parachoko:
He is trying his best

He is far better than Maurice Iwu.

And Jega too

Foolishbuhari:
Vote buying and voter suppression are the only ways to majorly influence elections now.

You are right, and it is in that direction subsequent reforms should be focused on.

VOTE BUYING is the only way to rig election now, as it stands. Ekiti state was a case study. So, if you're in your Polling Unit, get like minds like yourself and announce that there should be no vote buying there. The like minds will echo it and party agents would be discouraged.

cktheluckyman:

It cannot prevent vote buying but it surely did stop other forms of rigging in ekiti state

Ok

Foolishbuhari:
Vote buying and voter suppression are the only ways to majorly influence elections now.

. You got it quite right tinubu will buy your vote for 10-20k

alonso2214:
. You got it quite right tinubu will buy your vote for 10-20k

I won't sell

Yes it will reduce rigging significantly. However, I am also concerned about under-age voting in the northern states. I expected INEC to find a solution to this.

Dannyset:


All these are still greatly dependent on the party agent at the PU.

If he's compromised, all votes can be allocated to a party, while the ballot is destroyed.

But I get, it will to some extent reducebit

Why would the ballot be destroyed??
Like,, they would go back to the Collation Center, and say that what exactly happened to the ballots??
Then, that Polling-Unit would be voided and cancelled.
No matter what they had already claimed to have uploaded.

Dannyset:


Is that the law? If yes, then that makes a lot of sense.

Sincerely, INEC has improved and they are not our problem, but politicians.

Now you got it.
Politicians had always been the problem.