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DWN: Germany Is Headed For Collapse Because Of Sanctions And Its Own Policies by bn365: 7:03am On Jul 11, 2022
Anti-Russian sanctions will put an end to the German business model, journalist Mark Friedrich wrote in an op-ed for Deutsche Wirtschaft Nachrichten .
The journalist emphasized that Germany depends on the availability of cheap raw materials - it is the basis for the German economy.
"Other countries such as India , China , Brazil and Turkey are only too happy to buy important raw materials from Russia," he continued.
"Germany is losing productivity and competitiveness en masse, which will cost her jobs, social security and prosperity," Friedrich warned.

According to him, Berlin "moved to the sidelines" because of its own political mistakes and arrogance and now will not be able to keep the European Union afloat.

"Opportunities are shrinking in parallel with Germany's economic destruction," the observer continued.
He explained that the country will fall into a vicious circle of upheavals and no way out of this situation is foreseen.
"You are standing in front of the ruins of a massively failed energy policy that has been ideologically blinded," Friedrich said.

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Re: DWN: Germany Is Headed For Collapse Because Of Sanctions And Its Own Policies by Kingsnairaland(m): 7:34am On Jul 11, 2022
Beautiful

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Re: DWN: Germany Is Headed For Collapse Because Of Sanctions And Its Own Policies by Nobody: 8:49am On Jul 11, 2022
Everyone have an opinion.
Re: DWN: Germany Is Headed For Collapse Because Of Sanctions And Its Own Policies by Caseless: 9:05am On Jul 11, 2022
They have an idiot as a leader who was so eager to please America because he's new on the block and displease his own people.

Angela Merkel wouldn't have allowed this in the first place. She stood her ground for many years and I'm sure Germans are missing her right now.

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Re: DWN: Germany Is Headed For Collapse Because Of Sanctions And Its Own Policies by bn365: 9:13am On Jul 11, 2022
His views are founded on observation of facts and reality on the ground, rather than wishful thinking.


BritishNaija:
Everyone have an opinion.

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Re: DWN: Germany Is Headed For Collapse Because Of Sanctions And Its Own Policies by Nobody: 9:16am On Jul 11, 2022
bn365:
His views are founded on observation of facts and reality on the ground, rather than wishful thinking.



Like i said, everyone have an opinion.
Re: DWN: Germany Is Headed For Collapse Because Of Sanctions And Its Own Policies by bn365: 9:19am On Jul 11, 2022
You don't take poison in the hopes that your adversary will suffer.
Sanctions are harming the German economy.
For example, due to Russian sanctions, Canadian Siemens chose not to repair Gasprom equipment, which should have delivered gas to Germany.
I hope they keep the sanction regime going though



BritishNaija:


Like i said, everyone have an opinion.

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Re: DWN: Germany Is Headed For Collapse Because Of Sanctions And Its Own Policies by Nobody: 9:23am On Jul 11, 2022
bn365:
You don't take poison in the hopes that your adversary will suffer.
Sanctions are harming the German economy.
For example, due to Russian sanctions, Canadian Siemens chose not to repair Gasprom equipment, which should have delivered gas to Germany.
I hope they keep the sanction regime going though




The Siemens issue have been resolved. Good for Germany as they were warned not to depend much on Russia Back then, But They ignored the warning.
Re: DWN: Germany Is Headed For Collapse Because Of Sanctions And Its Own Policies by bn365: 9:28am On Jul 11, 2022
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Re: DWN: Germany Is Headed For Collapse Because Of Sanctions And Its Own Policies by bn365: 9:29am On Jul 11, 2022
You don't have what you don't have. You trade with those who have what you need. You don't impose your will on your trading partners. If you demand they abide by your values AKA "Liberal World Order" AKA Homo-sexuality, Trans-genderism, Climate agenda etc., before you do business with them, they should be able to walk away.
America would rather Germany depend on them
Europe goes down if Germany goes down and a vassal state to the US.
US gets to decide who joins EU etc

BritishNaija:

The Siemens issue have been resolved. Good for Germany as they were warned not to depend much on Russia Back then, But They ignored the warning.

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Re: DWN: Germany Is Headed For Collapse Because Of Sanctions And Its Own Policies by Nobody: 9:36am On Jul 11, 2022
bn365:
You don't have what you don't have. You trade with those who have what you need. You don't impose your will on your trading partners. If you demand they abide by your values AKA "Liberal World Order" before you do business with them, they should be able to walk away.
America would rather Germany depend on them
Europe goes down if Germany goes down and a vassal state to the US.
US gets to decide who joins EU etc


If Germany faces Energy crises, it's the fault because you don't put all your eggs in one Basket.

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Re: DWN: Germany Is Headed For Collapse Because Of Sanctions And Its Own Policies by rottennaija(m): 12:18pm On Jul 11, 2022
BritishNaija:


Like i said, everyone have an opinion.

Which opinion? Is the opinion wrong? Are You not seeing for yourself how things have turned out based on evidence.

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Re: DWN: Germany Is Headed For Collapse Because Of Sanctions And Its Own Policies by rottennaija(m): 12:19pm On Jul 11, 2022
BritishNaija:

The Siemens issue have been resolved. Good for Germany as they were warned not to depend much on Russia Back then, But They ignored the warning.

Russia provided cheap energy, they should have depended on who? US?

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Re: DWN: Germany Is Headed For Collapse Because Of Sanctions And Its Own Policies by Nobody: 12:37pm On Jul 11, 2022
rottennaija:


Russia provided cheap energy, they should have depended on who? US?

Germany can Coup without buying Oil from Russia. The problem here was that they never emphasized that Russia will invade Ukraine two years ago, If not, They would have got alternative.

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Re: DWN: Germany Is Headed For Collapse Because Of Sanctions And Its Own Policies by rottennaija(m): 1:54pm On Jul 11, 2022
BritishNaija:


Germany can Coup without buying Oil from Russia. The problem here was that they never emphasized that Russia will invade Ukraine two years ago, If not, They would have got alternative.

Russia would never have invaded Ukraine if
1. US had allowed Ukraine to honor the Minsk I and II agreements.
2. If US has not been training NATO for 8 years to attack Russia speaking indigenes of Ukraine
3. If NATO was not working with Nazis in Ukraine and even threaten to invade Russia
4. If US was not pushing Ukraine into NATO (which was a red line for Russia despite all effort to stop the expansion of NATO)
5. If Ukraine was not preparing 200k men to invade the separatist in Donbass.

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Re: DWN: Germany Is Headed For Collapse Because Of Sanctions And Its Own Policies by rottennaija(m): 1:55pm On Jul 11, 2022
BritishNaija:


Germany can Coup without buying Oil from Russia. The problem here was that they never emphasized that Russia will invade Ukraine two years ago, If not, They would have got alternative.

Also, the world is interconnected. No one country has all. Germany needs cheap Russian gas and other natural resources including wheat to drive their economy.

Even still, the US is buying Russian oil, wheat, and fertilizers.

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Re: DWN: Germany Is Headed For Collapse Because Of Sanctions And Its Own Policies by Nobody: 2:08pm On Jul 11, 2022
rottennaija:


Russia would never have invaded Ukraine if
1. US had allowed Ukraine to honor the Minsk I and II agreements.
2. If US has not been training NATO for 8 years to attack Russia speaking indigenes of Ukraine
3. If NATO was not working with Nazis in Ukraine and even threaten to invade Russia
4. If US was not pushing Ukraine into NATO (which was a red line for Russia despite all effort to stop the expansion of NATO)
5. If Ukraine was not preparing 200k men to invade the separatist in Donbass.
All these you list are just excuses and false. Putin have His agenda for so long.

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Re: DWN: Germany Is Headed For Collapse Because Of Sanctions And Its Own Policies by rottennaija(m): 2:16pm On Jul 11, 2022
BritishNaija:

All these you list are just excuses and false. Putin have His agenda for so long.

You demonize Putin and believe he is the cause of your it life problems. Takeaway Putin and see another Russian President that would be more brutal than Putin.

You think this is about Putin? You think if you can take him away, you have another Russian president that would crawl to the US and the west? It seems you don't realize that some section of Russia think Putin is weak.

Becareful of what you ask for.

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Re: DWN: Germany Is Headed For Collapse Because Of Sanctions And Its Own Policies by Nobody: 2:21pm On Jul 11, 2022
rottennaija:


You demonize Putin and believe he is the cause of your it life problems. Takeaway Putin and see another Russian President that would be more brutal than Putin.

You think this is about Putin? You think if you can take him away, you have another Russian president that would crawl to the US and the west? It seems you don't realize that some section of Russia think Putin is weak.

Becareful of what you ask for.

Putin is the problem, Putin is Russia problem.

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Re: DWN: Germany Is Headed For Collapse Because Of Sanctions And Its Own Policies by rottennaija(m): 2:24pm On Jul 11, 2022
BritishNaija:

All these you list are just excuses and false. Putin have His agenda for so long.
What is false? That
1. Ukraine refused to honor the Minsk I and II agreements.
2. NATO has not been training Ukraine for 8 years?
3. NATO is not working with Nazis in Ukraine and even threaten to invade Russia
4. US was not pushing Ukraine into NATO (which was a red line for Russia despite all effort to stop the expansion of NATO)
5. Ukraine was not preparing 200k men to invade the separatist in Donbass.

You can dig your head in the sand for all you care. I don't give a shit. You make your bed, you lay on it.

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Re: DWN: Germany Is Headed For Collapse Because Of Sanctions And Its Own Policies by rottennaija(m): 2:24pm On Jul 11, 2022
BritishNaija:


Putin is the problem, Putin is Russia problem.

Go remove him then.

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Re: DWN: Germany Is Headed For Collapse Because Of Sanctions And Its Own Policies by Nobody: 3:15pm On Jul 11, 2022
rottennaija:


Go remove him then.

What is my business removing him? Let him be messing his country up, His business

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Re: DWN: Germany Is Headed For Collapse Because Of Sanctions And Its Own Policies by bn365: 4:24pm On Jul 11, 2022
Russian opposition thinks Putin is weak. Putin was addressing the opposition when he stated that Russia haven't begun in Ukraine[I'm paraphrasing his comment]
I'm grateful to God for Putin. He's the road-block or bump to slow down the globalist agenda.
The world would have been on full climate/food crisis lockdown due to "nitrogen emission"...Dutch/Polish/Italian/Kenya/Sri Lankan farmers are having a taste of what was in the pipeline for the world.


rottennaija:


You demonize Putin and believe he is the cause of your it life problems. Takeaway Putin and see another Russian President that would be more brutal than Putin.

You think this is about Putin? You think if you can take him away, you have another Russian president that would crawl to the US and the west? It seems you don't realize that some section of Russia think Putin is weak.

Becareful of what you ask for.

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Re: DWN: Germany Is Headed For Collapse Because Of Sanctions And Its Own Policies by jimetagambo: 6:21pm On Jul 11, 2022
Beautiful country when I visited in April, but the Frankfort airport is one of the ugliest I have ever seen in a developed country. grin

Re: DWN: Germany Is Headed For Collapse Because Of Sanctions And Its Own Policies by Appleyard(m): 6:59am On Jul 12, 2022
Caseless:
They have an idiot as a leader who was so eager to please America because he's new on the block and displease his own people.

Angela Merkel wouldn't have allowed this in the first place. She stood her ground for many years and I'm sure Germans are missing her right now.

You're so right. It's very hurtful when workers are about to lose their jobs. Some German top companies are already contemplating job cuts due to the inflationary rates that's not receding but increasing each passing month. And once you have job cuts, it means loss of productivity, so the observer was spot on.

The fact is, you cannot replace "cheap" raw materials, especially when you're running an economy that overwhelmingly revolves around industrial manufacturing. You need the cheap raw materials to stay competitive in terms of market price, which has been Germany's secret economic weapon for ages--cheap energy, cheap metal sheets, cheap wood, coal, iron ore, palladium, nickel and so forth.

Even as the country eyes diversification away from some of its dependent sources like Russia, the fact remains that prices of most of those raw materials have skyrocketed, and diversification isn't something you achieve overnight. Therefore, in whatever ways, the German economy is screwed for the time being as it continue to head on the negative side of things, no thanks to the devastating leftover effect of the Covid-19 virus and the ongoing war in Ukraine.

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Re: DWN: Germany Is Headed For Collapse Because Of Sanctions And Its Own Policies by Aizenosa(m): 8:39am On Jul 12, 2022
BritishNaija:


If Germany faces Energy crises, it's the fault because you don't put all your eggs in one Basket.

And how many egg producers have the quantity and quality of eggs to meet your demand at the right price.

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Re: DWN: Germany Is Headed For Collapse Because Of Sanctions And Its Own Policies by Nobody: 8:44am On Jul 12, 2022
Aizenosa:


And how many egg producers have the quantity and quality of eggs to meet your demand at the right price.

Germany have the money to buy gas from Any producer's amount. The problem here is that they depended so much on Russia, So to move away from Russia is too sudden and reason they are finding it hard to fill up the gap. Assuming They have a year notice, It's a piece of cake to resolve.

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Re: DWN: Germany Is Headed For Collapse Because Of Sanctions And Its Own Policies by bn365: 9:03am On Jul 12, 2022
Read your own posts after you're done posting them. It makes no sense. You can't create a policy out of a wish.
You can't create electricity out of thin air. Charging car ports for electric vehicles get charged with electricity from fuel. If you buy an electric car, you will still pay the electricity bill and your electricity is powered by fuel and coal
Germany has gone back to coal and hydro energy. It's like going back to your vomit and that's because there's no alternative.
When the rubber meets the road, reality humbles the arrogant West
Give the West 10yrs, they'll still not be able to replace gas and fuel.


BritishNaija:


Germany have the money to buy gas from Any producer's amount. The problem here is that they depended so much on Russia, So to move away from Russia is too sudden and reason they are finding it hard to fill up the gap. Assuming They have a year notice, It's a piece of cake to resolve.

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Re: DWN: Germany Is Headed For Collapse Because Of Sanctions And Its Own Policies by Nobody: 9:07am On Jul 12, 2022
bn365:
Read your own posts after you're done posting them. It makes no sense. You can't create a policy out of a wish.
You can't create electricity out of thin air. Charging car ports for electric vehicles get charged with electricity from fuel. If you buy an electric car, you will still pay the electricity bill and your electricity is powered by fuel and coal
Germany has gone back to coal and hydro energy. It's like going back to your vomit and that's because there's no alternative.
When the rubber meets the road, reality humbles the arrogant West
Give the West 10yrs, they'll still not be able to replace gas and fuel.



What or how is What you typed above is related to the Reason I said Germany is facing difficulty?
Re: DWN: Germany Is Headed For Collapse Because Of Sanctions And Its Own Policies by bn365: 9:36am On Jul 12, 2022
How is Germany coping without Russian oil?
Your argument is that Germany needed time to get alternative? Like shipping oil/Gas from US/Libya? How many months does it take to pay for it and get it shipped?
Germany and the West considers the alternative as doing away with Gas/Oil
Biden wants Saudi Arabia to help them, so that in a few years they can come up with alternative to oil/gas?
Who wants to be a place-holder? No one


Germany can Coup without buying Oil from Russia. The problem here was that they never emphasized that Russia will invade Ukraine two years ago, If not, They would have got alternative.

BritishNaija:


What or how is What you typed above is related to the Reason I said Germany is facing difficulty?
Re: DWN: Germany Is Headed For Collapse Because Of Sanctions And Its Own Policies by Nobody: 9:49am On Jul 12, 2022
bn365:
How is Germany coping without Russian oil?
Your argument is that Germany needed time to get alternative? Like shipping oil/Gas from US/Libya? How many months does it take to pay for it and get it shipped?
Germany and the West considers the alternative as doing away with Gas/Oil
Biden wants Saudi Arabia to help them, so that in a few years they can come up with alternative to oil/gas?
Who wants to be a place-holder? No one


Germany can Coup without buying Oil from Russia. The problem here was that they never emphasized that Russia will invade Ukraine two years ago, If not, They would have got alternative.


Are you or do you know more than Germany that said They will be free from Russia GAs by end of the year? There will Always be an alternative But it's just question on time.

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Re: DWN: Germany Is Headed For Collapse Because Of Sanctions And Its Own Policies by Aizenosa(m): 10:26am On Jul 12, 2022
BritishNaija:


Germany have the money to buy gas from Any producer's amount. The problem here is that they depended so much on Russia, So to move away from Russia is too sudden and reason they are finding it hard to fill up the gap. Assuming They have a year notice, It's a piece of cake to resolve.

Buying gas is not the issue, the issue is sustaining the quantity per second of consumption, which can only be done by a pipeline. Currently only Russia has that pipeline with them, constructing another pipeline from other gas producers now will take minimum of 3 years to any other gas producer example is the Nord stream 2 project. Another is cost of pipeline construction. Yet another is brokering the deal to construct pipeline from another country.

For your info, even Saudi buys gas and crude from Russia.

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