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ASUU 1.2 Trillion Demand Will Make Poor Students To Drop Out by Biodun556(m): 1:54pm On Aug 07, 2022
ASUU wants autonomy with their ridiculous demand from FG and that means students will start paying school fees.

In private universities students pay between 500,000 to 2 million naira. In Federal Universities, students pay 50,000 averagely. In some federal uni, students pay as low as 10,000 naira. Only medical and engineering students pay higher fee and that's because of practical. This means that federal universities are heavily subsidies in Nigeria.

With federal universities subsidies, and fuel subsidies, the burden is too much on government reason why they can't take to all ASUU demands on the premise that most of the university lecturers and Nigerian doctors are beneficiaries of the almost free tertiary education, so they should be able to manage what is giving to them since the government is not earning profits from the universities. The solutions to ASUU demands is for government to introduce school fees in Federal Universities and that will deny students from poor family access to tertiary education.

Before Fashola became governor, Lagos tertiary educations were free, when he came, he introduced 200,000 naira school fees and many students dropped out. I pity the parents and students joining ASUU to criticize the government because the outcome will not favor them

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Re: ASUU 1.2 Trillion Demand Will Make Poor Students To Drop Out by Biodun556(m): 1:55pm On Aug 07, 2022
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Re: ASUU 1.2 Trillion Demand Will Make Poor Students To Drop Out by Optimal01(m): 2:17pm On Aug 07, 2022
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Re: ASUU 1.2 Trillion Demand Will Make Poor Students To Drop Out by Qtrpst4: 2:21pm On Aug 07, 2022
Biodun556 but the federal government giving 1.4bn to Niger is nothing right, where did they see money for that? Can't they also go that place to get money for ASUU? If not that they don't take us for granted, how can buhari be that insensitive and to know that people like you support that is the most foolish of it all

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Re: ASUU 1.2 Trillion Demand Will Make Poor Students To Drop Out by Biodun556(m): 2:29pm On Aug 07, 2022
Qtrpst4:
Biodun556 but the federal government giving 1.4bn to Niger is nothing right, where did they see money for that? Can't they also go that place to get money for ASUU? If not that they don't take us for granted, how can buhari be that insensitive and to know that people like you support that is the most foolish of it all

Difference between a billion and a trillion is wide.

Nigeria also collect billions of dollars aid from abroad. FG could take part of it for neighboring countries

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Re: ASUU 1.2 Trillion Demand Will Make Poor Students To Drop Out by Nobody: 2:53pm On Aug 07, 2022
Biodun556:
ASUU wants autonomy with their ridiculous demand from FG and that means students will start paying school fees.

In private universities students pay between 500,000 to 2 million naira. In Federal Universities, students pay 50,000 averagely. Only medical and engineering students pay higher fee and that's because of practical. This means that federal universities are heavily subsidies in Nigeria.

With federal universities subsidies, and fuel subsidies, the burden is too much on government reason why they can't take to all ASUU demands on the premise that most of the university lecturers and Nigerian doctors are beneficiaries of the almost free tertiary education, so they should be able to manage what is giving to them since the government is not earning profits from the universities. The solutions to ASUU demands is for government to introduce school fees in Federal Universities and that will deny students from poor family access to tertiary education

They should go and learn from other nations doing it right.

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Re: ASUU 1.2 Trillion Demand Will Make Poor Students To Drop Out by Biodun556(m): 3:03pm On Aug 07, 2022
Thanksful:


They should go and learn from other nations doing it right.

Anytime politicians increase their own allowances, ASUU will make fresh demands in most cases. They often compare their salaries and allowances with that of political office holders
Re: ASUU 1.2 Trillion Demand Will Make Poor Students To Drop Out by Blue3k(m): 3:03pm On Aug 07, 2022
Biodun556:
The solutions to ASUU demands is for government to introduce school fees in Federal Universities and that will deny students from poor family access to tertiary education

In the words of Thomas Sowell there's no solutions only tradeoffs. What you're witnessing the fundamental issue economics grapples with. How do people deal with scare resources. If you want poor to go to school so badly make sure there's market competition for universities, be prepared to pay taxes or privately fund these students through scholarships, grants. The poor will have to work a part time job or take loans while in school. University may not be for everyone and that's a tradeoff people must accept.

The universities do need to charge for their services competing with state and private universities. As said before you can still pay your subsides. The students have to be their primary customer not the tax payers.

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Re: ASUU 1.2 Trillion Demand Will Make Poor Students To Drop Out by Biodun556(m): 3:05pm On Aug 07, 2022
Blue3k:


In the words of Thomas Sowell there s no solutions only tradeoffs. What you're witnessing the fundamental issue economic grapples with how people deal with scares resource. If you want poor to go to school so badly make sure there's market competition for universities, be prepared to pay taxes or privately fund these students through scholarships, grants. The poor will have to work a part time job or take loans while in school. University may not be for everyone and that's a tradeoff people must accept.

The universities do need to charge for their services competing with state and private universities. As said before you can still pay your subsides. The students have to be their primary customer not the tax payers.

Absolutely
Re: ASUU 1.2 Trillion Demand Will Make Poor Students To Drop Out by Qtrpst4: 3:08pm On Aug 07, 2022
Oga you give to people you are better than and not those better than you. Of all those that gave to Nigeria, howany of them have inflation and financial crisis like we do, how many of them have their schools in strike because of money
Try dey get sense, you must not defend nonsense



Biodun556:


Difference between a billion and a trillion is wide.

Nigeria also collect billions of dollars aid from abroad. FG could take part of it for neighboring countries

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Re: ASUU 1.2 Trillion Demand Will Make Poor Students To Drop Out by Blue3k(m): 3:15pm On Aug 07, 2022
Qtrpst4:
Biodun556 but the federal government giving 1.4bn to Niger is nothing right, where did they see money for that? Can't they also go that place to get money for ASUU?

Tell us what else you want to cut to reach 1 trillion. You're at 1.4 billion so you have 998.6 billion to go. You're allowed any mix of borrowing, cuts, tax increases or tuition increases as long it adds up to 1 trillion naira.

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Re: ASUU 1.2 Trillion Demand Will Make Poor Students To Drop Out by Sammy07: 3:18pm On Aug 07, 2022
Blue3k:


In the words of Thomas Sowell there s no solutions only tradeoffs. What you're witnessing the fundamental issue economic grapples with how people deal with scares resource. If you want poor to go to school so badly make sure there's market competition for universities, be prepared to pay taxes or privately fund these students through scholarships, grants. The poor will have to work a part time job or take loans while in school. University may not be for everyone and that's a tradeoff people must accept.

The universities do need to charge for their services competing with state and private universities. As said before you can still pay your subsides. The students have to be their primary customer not the tax payers.

But Removing subsidy on Education, Fuel. Things will become unbearable.

Until we become fully an export country and our naira is really strong.

I think the subsidy should remain as it is.

Students can't be paying 300k for federal university un top this bad economy and few.jobs
Re: ASUU 1.2 Trillion Demand Will Make Poor Students To Drop Out by Perfectbeing(m): 3:22pm On Aug 07, 2022
Qtrpst4:
Biodun556 but the federal government giving 1.4bn to Niger is nothing right, where did they see money for that? Can't they also go that place to get money for ASUU? If not that they don't take us for granted, how can buhari be that insensitive and to know that people like you support that is the most foolish of it all
N1.4 billion cannot build a standard faculty in any Nigerian university.
N1.4 billion is Chicken change for Nigeria.
Try and move on.

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Re: ASUU 1.2 Trillion Demand Will Make Poor Students To Drop Out by Sammy07: 3:23pm On Aug 07, 2022
Perfectbeing:
N1.4 billion cannot build a standard faculty in any Nigerian university.
N1.4 billion is Chicken change to Niger.
Try and move on.

True, if we begin to add standards labs, research centers etc

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Re: ASUU 1.2 Trillion Demand Will Make Poor Students To Drop Out by Blue3k(m): 3:23pm On Aug 07, 2022
Sammy07:


But Removing subsidy on Education, Fuel. Things will become unbearable.

Until we become fully an export country and our naira is really strong.

I think the subsidy should remain as it is.

Students can't be paying 300k for federal university un top this bad economy and few.jobs

Ok sir I'll give you the same challenge I gave to the other gentleman. Tell us how you plan on funding 1 trillion naira needed. You're allowed any mix of borrowing, cuts, tax increases or tuition increases as long it adds up to 1 trillion naira. Its easy to be emotional about the situation but were talking about naira and kobo. I also didn't say you have to completely remove subsides. I said students have to take more of the burden and have increased market competition.

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Re: ASUU 1.2 Trillion Demand Will Make Poor Students To Drop Out by Perfectbeing(m): 3:27pm On Aug 07, 2022
Qtrpst4:
Oga you give to people you are better than and not those better than you. Of all those that gave to Nigeria, howany of them have inflation and financial crisis like we do, how many of them have their schools in strike because of money
Try dey get sense, you must not defend nonsense



Nigeria is a thousand times better than Niger. N1.4 billion is chicken change for Nigeria.

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Re: ASUU 1.2 Trillion Demand Will Make Poor Students To Drop Out by Sammy07: 3:30pm On Aug 07, 2022
Blue3k:


Ok sir I'll give you the same challenge I gave to the other gentleman. Tell us how you plan on funding 1 trillion naira needed. You're allowed any mix of borrowing, cuts, tax increases or tuition increases as long it adds up to 1 trillion naira. Its easy to be emotional about the situation but were talking about naira and kobo. I also didn't say you have to completely remove subsides. I said students have to take more of the burden and have increased market competition.

Firstly, they can't see 1 trillion collect

Secondly before adding tax or increasing the tuition fees.
These should be in place
a. Better economy
b. Steady electricity
c. Security
d. A fully exporting country.

Without all these funding 1 trillion or whatever for university is useless
And increasing tax or tutition fees is useless.
Just like pouring water into the basket.

The solution I think currently is that, FG should just increase their salaries.

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Re: ASUU 1.2 Trillion Demand Will Make Poor Students To Drop Out by Biodun556(m): 3:37pm On Aug 07, 2022
Sammy07:


Firstly, they can't see 1 trillion collect

Secondly before adding tax or increasing the tuition fees.
These should be in place
a. Better economy
b. Steady electricity
c. Security
d. A fully exporting country.

Even in better economy like uk and US students pay school fees

Without all these funding 1 trillion or whatever for university is useless
And increasing tax or tutition fees is useless.
Just like pouring water into the basket.

The solution I think currently is that, FG should just increase their salaries.


Re: ASUU 1.2 Trillion Demand Will Make Poor Students To Drop Out by Biodun556(m): 3:37pm On Aug 07, 2022
Sammy07:


Firstly, they can't see 1 trillion collect

Secondly before adding tax or increasing the tuition fees.
These should be in place
a. Better economy
b. Steady electricity
c. Security
d. A fully exporting country.



Without all these funding 1 trillion or whatever for university is useless
And increasing tax or tutition fees is useless.
Just like pouring water into the basket.

The solution I think currently is that, FG should just increase their salaries.




Even in better economy like uk and US students pay school fees

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Re: ASUU 1.2 Trillion Demand Will Make Poor Students To Drop Out by Blue3k(m): 3:38pm On Aug 07, 2022
Sammy07:


Firstly, they can't see 1 trillion collect

The solution I think currently is that, FG should just increase their salaries.


Ok since you admitted their 1 trillion demand is impossible let's move on. Now how much will salary increase cost and how do you plan on funding that alone? You're allowed any mix of borrowing, cuts, tax increases or tuition increases as long it adds up.

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Re: ASUU 1.2 Trillion Demand Will Make Poor Students To Drop Out by Perfectbeing(m): 3:44pm On Aug 07, 2022
Sammy07:


But Removing subsidy on Education, Fuel. Things will become unbearable.

Until we become fully an export country and our naira is really strong.

I think the subsidy should remain as it is.

Students can't be paying 300k for federal university un top this bad economy and few.jobs
Like it or not, Nigeria will remain a consumption country in those subsidies remain. Nobody can make Nigeria a production without increasing taxes, duties or removing subsidies and (or) collecting billions of dollars worth of loans. If those things are not done, any cut on unnecessary costs and spending is nothing but a waste of time.

And the sad truth is that many Obidients doesn't even know this fact.
Peter Obi will be able to do nothing if he doesn't take loans or increase taxes and duties (thereby causing prices of things to rise and increasing our debts portfolio).
If he likes, let him budget only one car for his convoy and one meal a day as a president and wear only one shoe and watch for his complete 8 years in power, he will be able to do nada as a President if subsidies remains.
ASUU will keep going on strike and our refineries will never be able to function.

Sha I'm glad that Buhari is just waiting for Dangote's Refinery to be completed before he completely remove fuel subsidy next year. Those that wants to die should die and the country will move on after them.

If paradventure, Peter Obi becomes President he should reduce fuel back to N65 naira and watch Dangote refinery becomes moribund just like our 3 NNPC refineries.

As for ASUU strike, Students should pick between no strike again and a conducive learning environment but paying as high as 100k for federal universities or pay 10k school fees and ASUU striking 6 months, twice a year and students lapping each other in their lecture theatres.

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Re: ASUU 1.2 Trillion Demand Will Make Poor Students To Drop Out by Sammy07: 3:46pm On Aug 07, 2022
Biodun556:



Even in better economy like uk and US students pay school fees

Sure and the school fees is reflecting or don't you see their economy booming?
They get jobs with those fees.

Buh here, how can I be paying 300-400k in a federal university and still remain jobless, economy useless, security useless.

That's waste of funds
Re: ASUU 1.2 Trillion Demand Will Make Poor Students To Drop Out by Perfectbeing(m): 3:47pm On Aug 07, 2022
Blue3k:


Ok sir I'll give you the same challenge I gave to the other gentleman. Tell us how you plan on funding 1 trillion naira needed. You're allowed any mix of borrowing, cuts, tax increases or tuition increases as long it adds up to 1 trillion naira. Its easy to be emotional about the situation but were talking about naira and kobo. I also didn't say you have to completely remove subsides. I said students have to take more of the burden and have increased market competition.
Nothing but the truth.

Some of us here are quick to talk about how Ghana Universities doesn't go on strike but become quiet when they hear how much students pay in Ghana.
They don't know that the average Ghanian public universities school fees is as high as 250k per session.

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Re: ASUU 1.2 Trillion Demand Will Make Poor Students To Drop Out by Biodun556(m): 3:47pm On Aug 07, 2022
Sammy07:


But Removing subsidy on Education, Fuel. Things will become unbearable.

Until we become fully an export country and our naira is really strong.

I think the subsidy should remain as it is.

Students can't be paying 300k for federal university un top this bad economy and few.jobs

By next year, some private refineries will start working and government will definitely hands off fuel importation and subsidies even if a litre cost 300 naira.
Re: ASUU 1.2 Trillion Demand Will Make Poor Students To Drop Out by Sammy07: 3:49pm On Aug 07, 2022
Blue3k:


Ok since you admitted their 1 trillion demand is impossible let's move on. Now how much will salary increase cost and how do you plan on funding that alone? You're allowed any mix of borrowing, cuts, tax increases or tuition increases as long it adds up.

Salary increase cost won't take much, even if it takes much. Govt can fund it.

It's because measures are not in place to generate revenue (esp through agriculture, mineral resources) that's why it looks like we're broke.

And they should reduce unnecessary cost esp In some agemcies.
Re: ASUU 1.2 Trillion Demand Will Make Poor Students To Drop Out by SpecialAdviser(m): 3:49pm On Aug 07, 2022
The first question you are supposed to ask is "Why are there so many poor parents unable to pay their wards school fees? Why are UK parents and US parents able to pay theirs?"

Do you understand what economy means?

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Re: ASUU 1.2 Trillion Demand Will Make Poor Students To Drop Out by Biodun556(m): 3:50pm On Aug 07, 2022
Perfectbeing:
Nothing but the truth.

Some of us here are quick to talk about how Ghana Universities doesn't go on strike but become quiet when they hear how much students pay in Ghana.

That's our problem, we are the one that allow politicians to be lying to us because we don't want to hear the truth. Federal Universities are simply charity organizations

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Re: ASUU 1.2 Trillion Demand Will Make Poor Students To Drop Out by Biodun556(m): 3:51pm On Aug 07, 2022
Sammy07:


Sure and the school fees is reflecting or don't you see their economy booming?
They get jobs with those fees.

Buh here, how can I be paying 300-400k in a federal university and still remain jobless, economy useless, security useless.

That's waste of funds

If we can't pay school fees then ASUU should stop making unrealistic demands

Re: ASUU 1.2 Trillion Demand Will Make Poor Students To Drop Out by Sammy07: 3:53pm On Aug 07, 2022
Perfectbeing:
Like it or not, Nigeria will remain a consumption country in those subsidies remain. Nobody can make Nigeria a production without increasing taxes, duties or removing subsidies and (or) collecting billions of dollars worth of loans. If those things are not done, any cut on unnecessary costs and spending is nothing but a waste of time.

And the sad truth is that many Obidients doesn't even know this fact.
Peter Obi will be able to do nothing if he doesn't take loans or increase taxes and duties (thereby causing prices of things to rise and increasing our debts portfolio).
If he likes, let him budget only one car for his convoy and one meal a day as a president and wear only one shoe and watch for his complete 8 years in power, he will be able to do nada as a President if subsidies remains.
ASUU will keep going on strike and our refineries will never be able to function.

Sha I'm glad that Buhari is just waiting for Dangote's Refinery to be completed before he completely remove fuel subsidy next year. Those that wants to die should die and the country will move on after them.

If paradventure, Peter Obi becomes President he should reduce fuel back to N65 naira and watch Dangote refinery becomes moribund just like our 3 NNPC refineries.

As for ASUU strike, Students should pick between no strike again and a conducive learning environment but paying as high as 100k for federal universities or pay 10k school fees and ASUU striking 6 months, twice a year and students lapping each other in their lecture theatres.


Actually, Nigerians are not annoyed and won't be annoyed if subsidy is removed, if they're Paying more tax.

What usually pained us and why we always get annoyed is not seeing the positive impact of what we are paying.

How can I be paying thousands of money as tax, yet someone in Abuja is stealing it without seeing the impact of my tax like regular electricity, functioning roads, security etx

Do you think I will continue to pay the tax?
Re: ASUU 1.2 Trillion Demand Will Make Poor Students To Drop Out by Sammy07: 3:53pm On Aug 07, 2022
Biodun556:


If we can't pay school fees then ASUU should stop making unrealistic demands

Yeah, agreed
Re: ASUU 1.2 Trillion Demand Will Make Poor Students To Drop Out by Sammy07: 3:56pm On Aug 07, 2022
Biodun556:


By next year, some private refineries will start working and government will definitely hands off fuel importation and subsidies even if a litre cost 300 naira.

Refineries is just one out of many problems

We're not exporting enough

No electricity (hope you know it kills business) I know how much I dey use buy fuel and e dey pain me

Lack of Security, farmers are unable to go farm

And too much of importation

Bad roads

These are what makes economy worse.
Improve on it and see how other sectors will improve, people won't even complain
Re: ASUU 1.2 Trillion Demand Will Make Poor Students To Drop Out by Perfectbeing(m): 3:57pm On Aug 07, 2022
SpecialAdviser:
The first question you are supposed to ask is "Why are there so many poor parents unable to pay their wards school fees? Why are UK parents and US parents able to pay theirs?"

Do you understand what economy means?
A large percentage of people in the UK and US cannot afford studying in their universities without loans, grants or scholarships. An alternative way is for their parents to be saving the college money right from when they were born.

In Nigeria today, an average parent will start looking for money to pay school fees the day the child says, "daddy, I've gotten admission" and many send their children to school without without loans.

A whooping 71% of Americans who go to their colleges can't do so without Government aid

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