ParpahSeventy:

Lagos is the only state where present failures are attributed to past administration, you didn't see it from the two sides, did you?
Ambode justified his failures by saying he pays Tinubu 50 billion monthly, you swallowed it hook line and sinker.
And stupid people are also attributing the present "progress" under the present administration to Tinubu, e.g the rail project, the two sides are basically st*pid.
The BATified and Obidatti, a group of clowns who will do anything to sway the tides in their favor.

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Yes tinubu brought in buhari,he told us that buhari is the Messiah,we can blame him for that but have never attributed buharis failure to him, instead we blame it on the party that brought him in..

Crazybeard:

I think young people should ask questions and not be swayed by emotions. Nigeria can not afford to make another Buhari. Let's not make any excuses for our preferred candidates. Support them, at the same time ask them questions; hold them accountable.

You are right but then who do you think is better, from the leading contenders.

duality:


You are right but then who do you think is better, from the leading contenders.

Tinubu obviously. Tinubu knows how to choose and delegate which are great qualities in leadership. Obi is a solo man and a smooth talker. Atiku is Fulani and should go and rest.

colorsofrainbow:

So it's Tinubu who can't two make two sentences without sounding stupid is the solution?
Agbado dogs will keep weeping

You made two sentences and sounded stupid, doesn't that tell you something? Can you make sense of what you wrote?

Image123:


You made two sentences and sounded stupid, doesn't that tell you something? Can you make sense of what you wrote?

Tinubu taught me how to sound stupid

Munamoqel:
they are both try and error group ! Posting smart pictures to mobilize emotional youth that get carried away by iPhone filter picture .Governance is more than suit and nice picture!

Funny enough, the both of them hardly wear suit. I don't know where you got your hypothesis of filtered pictures from...

The fact still remain that the combination of Obi and Datti is the best option we have.

We would not rather have an aged Tinubu who has lately been unsound. Shetimma, at his best, is not the most brilliant person. His personality is also shrouded in much controversy.

We also would not rather opt for an Atiku and Okowa combination. This is drab enough...

ObiDatti is not the best in the world. But it's the best option we have. It's our surest bet for a breakaway from the status quo.

duality:


You are right but then who do you think is better, from the leading contenders.

I can't say at the moment

Agboriotejoye:

Someone who has a PhD is not sound enough? Nigerians self.

It's not about having a PhD.

Therein lies one the problems.We lay too much emphasis on certificates.

damosky12:


Funny enough, the both of them hardly wear suit. I don't know where you got your hypothesis of filtered pictures from...

The fact still remain that the combination of Obi and Datti is the best option we have.

We would not rather have an aged Tinubu who has lately been unsound. Shetimma, at his best, is not the most brilliant person. His personality is also shrouded in much controversy.

We also would not rather opt for an Atiku and Okowa combination. This is drab enough...

ObiDatti is not the best in the world. But it's the best option we have. It's our surest bet for a breakaway from the status quo.

story story they are not the best ! they bunch of novice in govering a complex nation ! obi with endless Mathematical calculation like a kid in secondary School debate cannot be the best !

Munamoqel:
story story they are not the best ! they bunch of novice in govering a complex nation ! obi with endless Mathematical calculation like a kid in secondary School debate cannot be the best !

Who is the best then?

The aged emperor, Tinubu and his terrorist vice?

Is it highly corrupt Atiku and his vice, Okowa.

See, damn "experience," if we have to flow with the status quo! We need a breakaway from this old order! We need something drastic man!

damosky12:


Who is the best then?

The aged emperor, Tinubu and his terrorist vice?

Is it highly corrupt Atiku and his vice, Okowa.

See, damn "experience," if we have to flow with the status quo! We need a breakaway from this old order! We need something drastic man!

i was not born in the 90s . Jonathan was a break from.the old order .called fresh air and I have no show .how did it end ! Corruption is hiding money in tax Haven not to pay tax , corruption is interesting state money in firm your family have share ! Obi is very corrupt !

Munamoqel:
i was not born in the 90s . Jonathan was a break from.the old order .called fresh air and I have no show .how did it end ! Corruption is hiding money in tax Haven not to pay tax , corruption is interesting state money in firm your family have share ! Obi is very corrupt !

"Obi is very corrupt" is an unfounded statement built on zero premise.

Jonathan was unique. But he wasn't necessarily a break from the old order. He rode on the dominance of PDP, a party that is built on the structures of corrupt stakeholders...

What's different with Obi is, first, his nonaligned stance from PDP or APC. Secondly, he seems to have an ideology. He has been vocal about his plans and approach to addressing Nigeria's corruption malady. His track-record at Anambra, if nothing, supports this stance.

Obi has an ideology of a servant leader. He is not the flamboyant type. He is extremely frugal with resources. He is literally a tad different from what we've always known of a Nigerian politician. Interestingly, he is in a party that rides solely on his influence (as a choice of many). This is democracy coming alive.

An Obi's win would put the corrupt old order in their place and signal the people's democratic capacity. If elected, Obi himself would be most accountable to the people, knowing that he had no "structure" except the people.

damosky12:


"Obi is very corrupt" is an unfounded statement built on zero premise.

Jonathan was unique. But he wasn't necessarily a break from the old order. He rode on the dominance of PDP, a party that is built on the structures of corrupt stakeholders...

What's different with Obi is, first, his nonaligned stance from PDP or APC. Secondly, he seems to have an ideology. He has been vocal about his plans and approach to addressing Nigeria's corruption malady. His track-record at Anambra, if nothing, supports this stance.

Obi has an ideology of a servant leader. He is not the flamboyant type. He is extremely frugal with resources. He is literally a tad different from what we've always known of a Nigerian politician. Interestingly, he is in a party that rides solely on his influence (as a choice of many). This is democracy coming alive.

An Obi's win would put the corrupt old order in their place and signal the people's democratic capacity. If elected, Obi himself would be most accountable to the people, knowing that he had no "structure" except the people.

and Anambra is still like this without an airport .all his frugality could save to build an airport ! and the infastruture in his state was dead . In development strides umahi , kwakwaso, elrufai , fashola, are above obi by miles we can vouch for there capacity to deliver !

ParpahSeventy:

At best all the presidential aspirants are scams, whoever wins won't do anything, they are lack clear plans to take the country forward, all chasing personal interests, if you want to vote, don't vote because you feel any of them can change Nigeria, they have all been in government and didn't change Nigeria nor their LGAs.

Finally I found someone that thinks the same way I think.

I don't see any of the three doing well. But I feel obi will do worse.

A presidential aspirant that kneels down for a fellow aspirant!!! It's obvious there are lots of politicians that wld be untouchable if he wins cos he won't have the political will to go after them just like oga jona

Brimstone77:
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Yes tinubu brought in buhari,he told us that buhari is the Messiah,we can blame him for that but have never attributed buharis failure to him, instead we blame it on the party that brought him in..

Buhari is not Lagos State governor, we are talking about Lagos here.
By the way, talking about failures, is there a bigger failure in Nigeria than PDP?
PDP looted the future we are living in today, for 16 years, whatever the country is experiencing all started with PDP, APC simply failed to correct PDP's failure which made them a failure of their own, like I have always said, if PDP did well for 16 years, APC's failure won't cause this much damage to the people.

Munamoqel:
and Anambra is still like this without an airport .all his frugality could save to build an airport ! and the infastruture in his state was dead . In development strides umahi , kwakwaso, elrufai , fashola, are above obi by miles we can vouch for there capacity to deliver !

Are you a 2000s person?

tunjijones:


Finally I found someone that thinks the same way I think.

I don't see any of the three doing well. But I feel obi will do worse.

A presidential aspirant that kneels down for a fellow aspirant!!! It's obvious there are lots of politicians that wld be untouchable if he wins cos he won't have the political will to go after them just like oga jona

When you talk about Jonathan, Igbos which he is not one of them believes he did well, they will say he is a good man, a "good man" can't rule Nigeria, Obi will perform worse than Jonathan same as Osibanjo, these men lack what it takes to wrestle power from the cabals, that's the advantage Tinubu holds (provided he is psychologically strong enough to want control), Obi is just another overrated noise maker who doesn't know what it takes to rule Nigeria, Obi can't rule Nigeria, Nigeria will be headed for deeper trenches, it's not about noise, if Buhari will all what was said and done could be hampered by a mere Saraki then what will be a certain before a senate chamber where his party will be a minority among a minority that's also a minority in the Senate, he wants to form the good man by kowtowing before Atiku as his leader, that's to say he can't call Atiku's bluff if he wins the election, he will crawl back to his PDP cabals and they will make sure that no glimmer of hope is left for Nigerians in subsequent elections, Obi can't pull the strings in Nigeria, we will be dealing with a worse GEJ, then they will make that old excuses of his advisers being the cause.

Munamoqel:
they are both try and error group ! Posting smart pictures to mobilize emotional youth that get carried away by iPhone filter picture .Governance is more than suit and nice picture!

Outcome of next general election will be determined by those who control wealth in the private sector. They cannot risk entrusting economy in hands of trial and error politicians with zero-structure.

Crazybeard:

It's not about having a PhD.

Therein lies one the problems.We lay too much emphasis on certificates.

We actually place less emphasis on certificates.
Especially for leadership position
The present leader's lack of proper education is still showing in his leadership of the country

ParpahSeventy:

Buhari is not Lagos State governor, we are talking about Lagos here.
By the way, talking about failures, is there a bigger failure in Nigeria than PDP?
PDP looted the future we are living in today, for 16 years, whatever the country is experiencing all started with PDP, APC simply failed to correct PDP's failure which made them a failure of their own, like I have always said, if PDP did well for 16 years, APC's failure won't cause this much damage to the people.

Stop regurgitating what APC told you. Which future did Nigeria have in 1999 when PDP took over?
PDP built the economy especially under OBJ and even though GEJ left the place worse than he met it, it was not as bad as 1999 when PDP took over.
APC on the other hand, instead of improving on what was handed to them, totally messed it up.
I can say if it was APC that took over from military in 1999, Nigerians would have clamored for military rule after four years.

Munamoqel:
i was not born in the 90s . Jonathan was a break from.the old order .called fresh air and I have no show .how did it end ! Corruption is hiding money in tax Haven not to pay tax , corruption is interesting state money in firm your family have share ! Obi is very corrupt !

Hiding money not to pay tax and looting taxes, which is worse?
Tinubu is easily the most corrupt politician of this era!

Agboriotejoye:

Hiding money not to pay tax and looting taxes, which is worse?
Tinubu is easily the most corrupt politician of this era!

it the same .tax is money accrued to the state for a development .is not your money so its defrauding the treasury .in America and co obi will be handed long term for tax evasion is is a very serious crime .like wise taking money from the treasury ! that all reduce the ability of the treasury to deliver development projects like health care ,road education etc so OBI is a criminal!

Munamoqel:
it the same .tax is money accrued to the state for a development .is not your money so its defrauding the treasury .in America and co obi will be handed long term for tax evasion is is a very serious crime .like wise taking money from the treasury ! that all reduce the ability of the treasury to deliver development projects like health care ,road education etc so OBI is a criminal!

Wrong!! Hiding money in tax haven is morally wrong but it does not qualify as tax evasion in the US. Get yourself properly educated.
However, floating a company to collect tax from the state of which you're sitting governor and awarding your company 14% return will be considered abuse of trust and abuse of office in the US which will fetch such governor an impeachment and jail time.
Also, cornering state's assets and resources to yourself in the name of retirement benefit and bribing lawmakers to pass an obscene pension law for yourself will land you in jail for abuse of office and gross misconduct.

Agboriotejoye:

Wrong!! Hiding money in tax haven is morally wrong but it does not qualify as tax evasion in the US. Get yourself properly educated.
However, floating a company to collect tax from the state of which you're sitting governor and awarding your company 14% return will be considered abuse of trust and abuse of office in the US which will fetch such governor an impeachment and jail time.
Also, cornering state's assets and resources to yourself in the name of retirement benefit and bribing lawmakers to pass an obscene pension law for yourself will land you in jail for abuse of office and gross misconduct.

you are confuse why do people hid money and investment in tax Haven ? For fun abi or to void paying tax

Munamoqel:
you are confuse why do people hid money and investment in tax Haven ? For fun abi or to void paying tax

Good question.
Hiding money in tax haven is not necessarily to avoid paying tax. A lot of you ignorant folks just keep hyping not paying tax because that's what the papers you read told you.
Let me ask you a simple question. Do you pay tax on money you keep in your bank here in Nigeria?
The aspect of tax depends on what you do with the money. If you put the money in a trust under a different name in a tax haven, you will probably evade tax in that country not your own country. That's because since the money is not in your name, any business you use the money for will not be counted for you.

Now, you've been harping on hiding money in tax haven. Have you asked yourself why Obi has not been investigated by the Nigerian authorities for the "crime"? At least there should be an investigation to determine if he's guilty or not. Well, there can't be because the so-called tax haven is a sovereign entity in its own and as long as the money is not a proceed of crime or moved with criminal intent, no crime has been committed.

Compare that with a man who corners 14% of a state's tax to himself in the name of consultancy. If it were to be a sane country, dude will be in jail now for abuse of trust and abuse of office. Same dude, cornered state assets like land, buildings etc for himself. That's gross malfeasance and is criminal.
We all should be critical of a man who has held one of the richest states in Nigeria in a vice-like grip for 23 years. It's absurd and reprehensible.

BATified2023:
God bless u

The social media clout chasing madness is annoying,shetima gave a very brilliant speech yesterday but what all those cretins care about is his shoes

They are ready to follow a designer wearing mediocre than follow someone who have a cut out plan

Many of them are kids who doesn’t understand that identifying a problem n solving it are 2 different things

The same problem peter obi couldn’t solve in tiny anambra is what he wants to solve in d whole of Nigeria

A man who happens to be one of the major importer in Nigeria is telling them he wants to move Nigeria from consumption to production n they didn’t ask him how?

Will he stop his business?
Will he suddenly establish over hundred companies at d same time?

They are just like a girl been wooed by a guy,the guy is telling her they will b living in paradise n d girl didn’t bother to ask if the guy have been there before

Yeah right. 'City boy and golden boy' speech. One ambulance in Lagos in 1999. Tinubu this, Tinubu that. Oh please! Let's be serious.

Agboriotejoye:

Good question.
Hiding money in tax haven is not necessarily to avoid paying tax. A lot of you ignorant folks just keep hyping not paying tax because that's what the papers you read told you.
Let me ask you a simple question. Do you pay tax on money you keep in your bank here in Nigeria?
The aspect of tax depends on what you do with the money. If you put the money in a trust under a different name in a tax haven, you will probably evade tax in that country not your own country. That's because since the money is not in your name, any business you use the money for will not be counted for you.

Now, you've been harping on hiding money in tax haven. Have you asked yourself why Obi has not been investigated by the Nigerian authorities for the "crime"? At least there should be an investigation to determine if he's guilty or not. Well, there can't be because the so-called tax haven is a sovereign entity in its own and as long as the money is not a proceed of crime or moved with criminal intent, no crime has been committed.

Compare that with a man who corners 14% of a state's tax to himself in the name of consultancy. If it were to be a sane country, dude will be in jail now for abuse of trust and abuse of office. Same dude, cornered state assets like land, buildings etc for himself. That's gross malfeasance and is criminal.
We all should be critical of a man who has held one of the richest states in Nigeria in a vice-like grip for 23 years. It's absurd and reprehensible.

instead of answering the simple question you are writing stupid thesis for who to read ! do they tell you people hid money in tax Haven in a saving account it called tax Haven for a reason! dirty money is hidden in several shell companies to evade tax payment and scruinity .you thing German govt that went behind to get the name don't know what they are doing keep deceiving yourself OBI is not becoming president .he empty he lies alot he speak like a secondary School debate boy .he not even serious ,he has no legacy project in his 8 years .he has Criminal tendencies ( investing state fund in his family business and evading tax ) he not producing even pure water but import rubbish like salad cream .

Crazybeard:
I listened to Yusuf Datti Baba-Ahmed, the vice presidential candidate of the Labour Party on Sunrise Daily, a Channels television breakfast program. I must state here that I have my reservations about his grasp of Nigeria's problems, and his ability to proffer solutions. He deflected a lot of the questions put to him and wasn't convincing with his responses.

Yeah, he is "only" a vice presidential candidate. But then, my thinking is that the vice president of any country should be as sound as the president, if not better.

I may be wrong though. What are your thoughts?

I'm curious.

Mr "We do... We do,,,"
His competence is in doubt. If you compare him with Shettima, it would be obvious the Obi/Datti ticket is empty.

Munamoqel:
instead of answering the simple question you are writing stupid thesis for who to read ! do they tell you people hid money in tax Haven in a saving account it called tax Haven for a reason! dirty money is hidden in several shell companies to evade tax payment and scruinity .you thing German govt that went behind to get the name don't know what they are doing keep deceiving yourself OBI is not becoming president .he empty he lies alot he speak like a secondary School debate boy .he not even serious ,he has no legacy project in his 8 years .he has Criminal tendencies ( investing state fund in his family business and evading tax ) he not producing even pure water but import rubbish like salad cream .

I apologise if what I wrote is too complex for you to handle. The summary of what I wrote is that hiding money in tax haven is not to evade tax in Nigeria as you think. It's to avoid tax on doing business because those countries allow you to do business with your money without paying tax. It's like Dangote building a refinery in Lekki free trade zone. It's to avoid tax too. Is Dangote a criminal?
German govt? What da hell are you talking about now?
It's funny when you accuse Obi of investing state fund in his family business while you hail someone who took over the tax payment of his state.
It's funny you accuse Obi of evading tax while you hail someone who takes 14% of your tax for the past 23 years. If you started working as a civil servant in Lagos State in 1999, you're closer to retirement now. For the past 23 years of your career, every month, you pay a certain percentage of your salary to Tinubu. Can you imagine? You've been slaving for Tinubu to feed fat for the past 23 years!!
What does Tinubu produce that he has multiple private jets.

Crazybeard:
I listened to Yusuf Datti Baba-Ahmed, the vice presidential candidate of the Labour Party on Sunrise Daily, a Channels television breakfast program. I must state here that I have my reservations about his grasp of Nigeria's problems, and his ability to proffer solutions. He deflected a lot of the questions put to him and wasn't convincing with his responses.

Yeah, he is "only" a vice presidential candidate. But then, my thinking is that the vice president of any country should be as sound as the president, if not better.

I may be wrong though. What are your thoughts?

I'm curious.

The guy is a fanatical Jihadist. For now it's all well and good since he's on Obi's side. If he decamps, yeebos will spam all web spaces with "he's a terrorist! He's not a Nigerian but a Mauritanian!" etc etc. Onlyvthose that don't know the hypocrisy of yeebos take them seriously.

BATified2023:
God bless u

The social media clout chasing madness is annoying,shetima gave a very brilliant speech yesterday but what all those cretins care about is his shoes

They are ready to follow a designer wearing mediocre than follow someone who have a cut out plan

Many of them are kids who doesn’t understand that identifying a problem n solving it are 2 different things

The same problem peter obi couldn’t solve in tiny anambra is what he wants to solve in d whole of Nigeria

A man who happens to be one of the major importer in Nigeria is telling them he wants to move Nigeria from consumption to production n they didn’t ask him how?

Will he stop his business?
Will he suddenly establish over hundred companies at d same time?

They are just like a girl been wooed by a guy,the guy is telling her they will b living in paradise n d girl didn’t bother to ask if the guy have been there before

tell me one thing shettima said that is factual, lagos state had only one ambulance and you believed him, he is a golden, self acclaimed. Tinubu increased Igr , was his figure correct?

Agboriotejoye:

We actually place less emphasis on certificates.
Especially for leadership position
The present leader's lack of proper education is still showing in his leadership of the country

Buhari's problem isn't that he has no certificate, the man is just dull.

For 30yrs he didn't develop himself. Even when in the army, Buhari wasn't seen as one of the smart officers.