Crafteck1:


Im imagining a world where iraq, iran or Afghanistan has nuclear weapons, im sure thats your ideal world, you arr so sure the invasion was unjustified, [b]did you give a thought to maybe iraq had a hidden location that even the us didnt know about? [/b]The us aint saints but when i see ignorant people who are always eager to demean them i easily know whats going on in their heads. I rest my case.

my brother you funny o, no go talk this thing for where people like them scully95, dermy, sunny4life and zoharariel dey o, them go laugh you.

So even after Saddam was captured alive, the US were not still able to make him confess where those WMDs were?

Dvdpity:
All of una that ain't Russian is celebrating someone who is a russian. You all are stupid. Very stupid. No one will ever know or say more about Mikhail than russians. Whatever russians says about him stands. Irrespective of whatever western media paints him.
Just like how Buhari is destroying Nigerians and people from Niger is praising him.

Let us leave russians for russians. He was hated in Russia. Charity beings at home.


As far as Russia is concerned, russians has the best history of their former presidents. And their stories is the truth of events concerning Mikhail Gorbachev.

Oga your arguments are flawed.. He was a great leader who saw the peaceful dissolution of the Soviet Union without any blood shed... There are great leader's of countries who ain't loved in their home country..
Putin is killing people all I the name of denazify yet he has supporters at home and still people still don't support him..
Hitler is hated in Germany yet there are some fascist who still believe in this cause..

obedience4:
Good man, he peaceful saw the dissolution of the Soviet Union without any blood shed..
Far better than silly head putin

The only brain DEAD silly headed don't is you

obedience4:
Good man, he peaceful saw the dissolution of the Soviet Union without any blood shed..
Far better than silly head putin

The only brain DEAD silly headed dolt is you

07kjb:



How will they let the world know that they are suffering when they don't have access to Internet?

Have you ever met someone from North Korea, living in North Korea on Facebook or Instagram?

interesting, you have access to the internet and you have been crying all over the internet to the rest of the world everyday about you bad government. Has there been any changes?

mysticwarrior:
are the citizens complaining? As for the man who got executed for bringing in a movie, he knew the law of NK prohibits such and still went ahead to do it, he brought death upon himself.

Bro stop sounding stupiid on the internet.. Google the numbers of North Koreans risking their life defecting to the south..
Every year 19,000 plus north Koreans are rescued from the Korean demilitarized border..
Read the testimonies from the ones who survive the journey them you will understand the suffering of the the north Koreans..
A study was conducted last year which shows the the average north Korea is smaller more thin than it southern counterpart is are people who share the same genes and heritage

Horokrox:
The only brain DEAD silly headed dolt is you

Well since you are so sad the Soviet Union has collapse why don't you go and bring them back together..
Dude the Soviet Union is gone and buried..
The west won the cold war..so shut your mouth Dude.
Shouting in niraland won't bring it back..
Google all the formal Soviet Union States 90% are pro west.
Go and cry to Daddy putin[center][/center]

MyVILLAGEpeople:


He wasn’t the USSR leader during the Cuba missile crisis of 1962 when JFK was US President. Except you talking about a different scenario.

Oh. Thanks. I think Khrushchev.
Thanks a lot

mysticwarrior:
and yet they defeated the US and south korean troops overwhelmingly in the Korean war, and even captured a US General.

Sometimes people will just write without facts..
The north Korea Invaded the south, and within days captured the capital Seoul the UN backed intervention champion by the USA fought back the invasion and capture the NK capital poyanyang. The intervention of the Chinese and the Soviet Union sending weapons saved the north..
After the Chinese and the USA agreed to an armistice the south has gotten more land from the north..
True a USA military general was POW doesn't make the invasion of the north successful..
Common sense na, you invade person them beat you back to the extent of the USA using NK as a lunching pad to attack China.after the end of the war you didn't get one single inch of territory even your own was taken how you come take win the war..
Google the Korean war and stop spilling rubbish on NL

stevebond007:



Oh. Thanks. I think Khrushchev.
Thanks a lot

You are welcome.

VeryWickedMan:
He destroyed the Great Motherland. A coward.
And he chose peace over violence so I hate him.

He did not.

Fact is, the Soviet Union was on a downward slope by the 1960's...the oil boom of the 1970's just delayed the inevitable.(Some people were already seeing the downfall of the USSR by the early 1980's...when Gorby was just an apparatchnik)

The basis of the economy of the USSR was government run monopoly companies that were not allowed to compete globally. Meanwhile, the USA government won't protect their domestic companies the same way...with the result being that their companies had to up their game to compete with Europe and Japan and later on Korea and Taiwan....meaning they got innovative, better, and so forth. By the time Gorbachev came around, the soviet companies were weak compared to Western companies. Problem 1.

Also, the soviets gave free housing, free healthcare, etc...without paying for it by taxes, etc. By the 1980's they were running out of money to pay for free stuff (intially they got money from war repartrations from WW2, then the oil boom of the 1970's...THEN THE money ran out.) Problem 2.

Also, in the Western countries...you do well at work, they promote thee...and give you cash incentives. In the USSR? Maybe a promotion, and a medal, but not much in the way of cash incentives. Productivity suffers, economic development suffers. Problem 3.

On top of that, the USSR was basically Rossiya subsidsing smaller countries in Europe and Asia...and paying for a capital intensive defence industry, AND subsidisng a war in Afghanistan, AND...helping a lot of third world countries. That drains money faster. Problem 4.

There was nothing Gorbachev, or the hardliners who tried to remove him , could do.

The reason why we have a Communist china? The Chinese in 1979 realised that they had to make their economy capitalist., and eventually open up to global competition. That's why they still exist. If the Soviets had done the same in the 1960's...there still would have been a USSR.

Oh boy..after surviving WW2, the stallinist purge and the cold war...


Rest in peace great man.


Nigerian leaders should learn how to dismantle an unholy federation. Nigeria is not meant to be one. Nigeria shall and will soon crumble

obedience4:


Sometimes people will just write without facts..
The north Korea Invaded the south, and within days captured the capital Seoul the UN backed intervention champion by the USA fought back the invasion and capture the NK capital poyanyang. The intervention of the Chinese and the Soviet Union sending weapons saved the north..
After the Chinese and the USA agreed to an armistice the south has gotten more land from the north..
True a USA military general was POW doesn't make the invasion of the north successful..
Common sense na, you invade person them beat you back to the extent of the USA using NK as a lunching pad to attack China.after the end of the war you didn't get one single inch of territory even your own was taken how you come take win the war..
Google the Korean war and stop spilling rubbish on NL

thank you.

Kasssandra:


He did not.

Fact is, the Soviet Union was on a downward slope by the 1960's...the oil boom of the 1970's just delayed the inevitable.(Some people were already seeing the downfall of the USSR by the early 1980's...when Gorby was just an apparatchnik)

The basis of the economy of the USSR was government run monopoly companies that were not allowed to compete globally. Meanwhile, the USA government won't protect their domestic companies the same way...with the result being that their companies had to up their game to compete with Europe and Japan and later on Korea and Taiwan....meaning they got innovative, better, and so forth. By the time Gorbachev came around, the soviet companies were weak compared to Western companies. Problem 1.

Also, the soviets gave free housing, free healthcare, etc...without paying for it by taxes, etc. By the 1980's they were running out of money to pay for free stuff (intially they got money from war repartrations from WW2, then the oil boom of the 1970's...THEN THE money ran out.) Problem 2.

Also, in the Western countries...you do well at work, they promote thee...and give you cash incentives. In the USSR? Maybe a promotion, and a medal, but not much in the way of cash incentives. Productivity suffers, economic development suffers. Problem 3.

On top of that, the USSR was basically Rossiya subsidsing smaller countries in Europe and Asia...and paying for a capital intensive defence industry, AND subsidisng a war in Afghanistan, AND...helping a lot of third world countries. That drains money faster. Problem 4.

There was nothing Gorbachev, or the hardliners who tried to remove him , could do.

The reason why we have a Communist china? The Chinese in 1979 realised that they had to make their economy capitalist., and eventually open up to global competition. That's why they still exist. If the Soviets had done the same in the 1960's...there still would have been a USSR.

Thanks for breaking it down

The one who brought down the iron curtain.

RIP

mysticwarrior:
The youngest and last of Soviet leaders. He tried to reform the USSR through perestroika and glasnost just to prevent the union from collapsing, but the growing protest and tension at home following the the invasion of Afghanistan was too much for the young and inexperienced Gorbachev.

Boris Yeltsin quest for power also lead to the fall of the soviet Union. Some see him as a weak leader while others see him as a hero because the union collapsed without the firing of a single rifle.

He actually wanted to reform the Soviet Union. He was a protégé of Nikita Khruschev.

I doubt he was young and inexperienced. He placed the will of his people above his. He could have stopped the 'loss' of Central Europe but it wasn't worth the lives of people. Simply because he wasn't selfish, cruel, and authoritarian doesn't make him weak and inexperienced. He wasn't a power hungry despot.

It's amazing no blood was shed for the breakup of the Soviet Union and the liberation of Central Europe. For this, he will well remembered.

Dvdpity:
All of una that ain't Russian is celebrating someone who is a russian. You all are stupid. Very stupid. No one will ever know or say more about Mikhail than russians. Whatever russians says about him stands. Irrespective of whatever western media paints him.
Just like how Buhari is destroying Nigerians and people from Niger is praising him.

Let us leave russians for russians. He was hated in Russia. Charity beings at home.

As far as Russia is concerned, russians has the best history of their former presidents. And their stories is the truth of events concerning Mikhail Gorbachev.

This comment should be framed. Thank you

My own be say , how una dey take pronounce all these Russian names�

grandstar:


He actually wanted to reform the Soviet Union. He was a protégé of Nikita Khruschev.

I doubt he was young and inexperienced. He placed the will of his people above his. He could have stopped the 'loss' of Central Europe but it wasn't worth the lives of people. Simply because he wasn't selfish, cruel, and authoritarian doesn't make him weak and inexperienced. He wasn't a power hungry despot.

It's amazing no blood was shed for the breakup of the Soviet Union and the liberation of Central Europe. For this, he will well remembered.

I'm not sure about the blood shed. Armenia, Azerbajan, Georgia, had some bloody incidents in the run up to the breakup...and then the issues in these countries..plus Chechnya, Dagestan , Moldova and Ukraine are left over from the breakup.

grandstar:


He actually wanted to reform the Soviet Union. He was a protégé of Nikita Khruschev.

I doubt he was young and inexperienced. He placed the will of his people above his. He could have stopped the 'loss' of Central Europe but it wasn't worth the lives of people. Simply because he wasn't selfish, cruel, and authoritarian doesn't make him weak and inexperienced. He wasn't a power hungry despot.

It's amazing no blood was shed for the breakup of the Soviet Union and the liberation of Central Europe. For this, he will well remembered.

Thank you very much grandstar, of all the people in nairaland who have quoted me you are one person I respect the most. Not just because you are intelligent and vast in knowledge but because you know how to make corrections without lacing it with insults unlike some folks here.

Gorbachev was not a warlike man like his soviet predecessors Brezhnev, Andropov and Chernenko the Ukrainian.

Crafteck1:



Ukraine has captured and killed many generals, whats ur point? You know of terrain advantage right?
Same thing that plagued russia in the cold war against Finland.


We are talking about now and not history

Stop peddling fake news..
Ukraine has not capture any Russia general..
They only killed 4 which is confirmed and this happen because unlike other countries Russia general lead in the war front...

Crafteck1:


Im imagining a world where iraq, iran or Afghanistan has nuclear weapons, im sure thats your ideal world, you arr so sure the invasion was unjustified, did you give a thought to maybe iraq had a hidden location that even the us didnt know about? The us aint saints but when i see ignorant people who are always eager to demean them i easily know whats going on in their heads. I rest my case.

Every country has the right to own anything they want as long some countries also have it, that's why they're called sovereign country...

What's bad about them having nuclear weapon...
Is US, Russia, China, North Korea and even Israel not having it??

US is evil and that's it

Articul8:
The man from my textbook. Instrumental to the unipolar international system. glasnost and perestroika

Boss abeg throw more light on unipolar international system, glasnost and perestroika. Watin dem be?

mysticwarrior:
interesting, you have access to the internet and you have been crying all over the internet to the rest of the world everyday about you bad government. Has there been any changes?

Ask dem...oo,I don't know how dey reason a times.

He was a weak leader.
How can you allow Western pressure to make you yield so easily to external influence thereby undermining the internal sovereignty of your country.
They forced you to dissolve ur own union while their own union (NATO) stands.
With what the West are currently doing to Central and Eastern Europe, it's enough for great leader like King Putin to consider your actions (collapse of Soviet Union n the fall of Berlin Wall) as the greatest mistake of the 20th century.
Such nonsense that give rise to a unipolar government world wouldn't have happened if Putin was the then president.
That's why I will forever respect Putin for showing strong, good and efficient leadership.

Anyway,RIP to him.

Articul8:
The man from my textbook. Instrumental to the unipolar international system. glasnost and perestroika

He is very stupid man hated in Russia. Forget about what those western media are saying, this man was deceived and used by the west and that’s more of the reason they are busy praising him after is death cos is action served their interest.

obedience4:


Well since you are so sad the Soviet Union has collapse why don't you go and bring them back together..
Dude the Soviet Union is gone and buried..
The west won the cold war..so shut your mouth Dude.
Shouting in niraland won't bring it back..
Google all the formal Soviet Union States 90% are pro west.
Go and cry to Daddy putin[center][/center]

IDIOT who's talking about the cold war? Why don't you go and drink sniper to feel better

Dvdpity:
All of una that ain't Russian is celebrating someone who is a russian. You all are stupid. Very stupid. No one will ever know or say more about Mikhail than russians. Whatever russians says about him stands. Irrespective of whatever western media paints him.
Just like how Buhari is destroying Nigerians and people from Niger is praising him.

Let us leave russians for russians. He was hated in Russia. Charity beings at home.

As far as Russia is concerned, russians has the best history of their former presidents. And their stories is the truth of events concerning Mikhail Gorbachev.

This is the most sensible comment on this topic. I see western media praising him while Russians are angry, just like Nigerians glorifying Nnamdi Azikiwe while Igbos see him as just another leader

Crafteck1:


Don't be ignorant, North koreans are dying, suffering oppressed, the country is surviving on yahoo money etc. As long as the people dont wake, their suffer continues, go and read about them, its next to hell, last year a man still got executed for bringing in a copy of netflix movie.

Too much CNN is bad for foreign affairs

fergie001:
....will always be remembered as the "father of German reunification."

I believe he will be celebrated in Germany than in his native Russia.

Fare thee well, Mikhail!

Yes he agreed after pressure from the west including Ronald Reagan's famous speech where he said "Mr Gorbachev, tear down this wall..."

mysticwarrior:
but the North Korean dynasty of dictatorship is getting stronger everyday. Three generations of dynastic succession with communist ideology and it's still very firm.

can north Korea just open their border and allow their people to japa at will and see what will be left of the regime.
Instead of operating the world biggest prison.