Jashub:
Oga, the existence of God is all around you . Which is why I initially asked you the question :which explains reality better : theism or atheism?

If you are ready, answer.

Oga which existence of god is around me abeg?
Prove to me he exist or swerve.

Mufakirnaqdiun:

Oga which existence of god is around me abeg?
Prove to me he exist or swerve.

You deceive yourself by asking for evidences . Just look around you ...and ask yourself these questions:

1. Where do moral laws come from ? And why is it wrong to kill babies ? What tells you it is wrong to kill babies ?

2. Where do universal laws comes from ...laws like the law of gravity,electromagnetism and motion , where do they originate? If you say science then you are a fool, because you can only do science because those laws existed before science . So who or what created them?

3. What is responsible for creating order in the universe? If you say " the universe came out of nothing " then you are a fool. Because it is logically impossible for something to come out of nothing . In essence there had to be a cause . So what was that cause ...and if you say we are a bunch of chemicals and reactions , then how can you trust your own judgment if we are just random molecules than exist as a result of cosmological accidents?

Jashub:
You deceive yourself by asking for evidences . Just look around you ...and ask yourself these questions:

1. Where do moral laws come from ? And why is it wrong to kill babies ? What tells you it is wrong to kill babies ?

2. Where do universal laws comes from ...laws like the law of gravity,electromagnetism and motion , where do they originate? If you say science then you are a fool, because you can only do science because those laws existed before science . So who or what created them?

3. What is responsible for creating order in the universe? If you say " the universe came out of nothing " then you are a fool. Because it is logically impossible for something to come out of nothing . In essence there had to be a cause . So what was that cause ...and if you say we are a bunch of chemicals and reactions , then how can you trust your own judgment if we are just random molecules than exist as a result of cosmological accidents?

1)That would mean that not only everybody who does not believe in God is immoral but that everybody before the rise of the abrahamitic religions has been immoral, for almost 300,000 years. That’s not only completely ridiculous but also deeply insulting.

That is a sad question. If the only reason you are moral is because you believe in gods, you have already lost. If you lost your faith would you go on a killing spree? Rob banks? Rape? Beat your family? I would hope the answer would be no. If the answer is yes, please double your church attendance,lol.

2)Are you a kid? everything science says deals with proof,stop displaying your ignorance.
Are we going to get all these shit questions ‘if my imaginary proxy doesn’t exist, why do birds fly and dogs poop?’??

Gods don’t exist. They are arbitrary leftovers of our ancestral ignorance of the world (they tried to understand, but survival and daily contemplation of how the world runs don’t go hand in hand if a lion is on your trail). You could ask the question post for ANY and all imaginary character. Harry Potter, Super-Man, Little Man in the Moon, Qbert, whatnot! The answer will always be the same:

Your lack of understanding doesn’t warrant the claim of imaginary faeries to have done it.
The ‘laws governing the universe’ are scientific models that have been created by humans to recognize the patterns and further investigate causality between phenomenon and their effects, but also their causes (hence ‘caus’ality). These models ARE not the fundamental laws, they only model the processes observed and are named “laws”, which, just like gods, are simply concepts/proxies for a complex amount of information.

However, where ‘fundamental laws’ represent testable and reproducable causality as a concept, ‘gods’ don’t represent anything but fears, hopes and ignorance. In that sense, they are each others opposites and (mostly) mutually exclusive.

3)Why do you assume someone has to create the universe?
And if you assume that...then who created that someone? Because then it's turtles all the way down...
Baba to be sincere you know nothing, simple prove to me that God exists,if you can do it then I will take your creation part serious,all you are doing is wailing without evidence,lol.

Mufakirnaqdiun:

1)That would mean that not only everybody who does not believe in God is immoral but that everybody before the rise of the abrahamitic religions has been immoral, for almost 300,000 years. That’s not only completely ridiculous but also deeply insulting.

That is a sad question. If the only reason you are moral is because you believe in gods, you have already lost. If you lost your faith would you go on a killing spree? Rob banks? Rape? Beat your family? I would hope the answer would be no. If the answer is yes, please double your church attendance,lol.

2)Are you a kid? everything science says deals with proof,stop displaying your ignorance.
Are we going to get all these shit questions ‘if my imaginary proxy doesn’t exist, why do birds fly and dogs poop?’??

Gods don’t exist. They are arbitrary leftovers of our ancestral ignorance of the world (they tried to understand, but survival and daily contemplation of how the world runs don’t go hand in hand if a lion is on your trail). You could ask the question post for ANY and all imaginary character. Harry Potter, Super-Man, Little Man in the Moon, Qbert, whatnot! The answer will always be the same:

Your lack of understanding doesn’t warrant the claim of imaginary faeries to have done it.
The ‘laws governing the universe’ are scientific models that have been created by humans to recognize the patterns and further investigate causality between phenomenon and their effects, but also their causes (hence ‘caus’ality). These models ARE not the fundamental laws, they only model the processes observed and are named “laws”, which, just like gods, are simply concepts/proxies for a complex amount of information.

However, where ‘fundamental laws’ represent testable and reproducable causality as a concept, ‘gods’ don’t represent anything but fears, hopes and ignorance. In that sense, they are each others opposites and (mostly) mutually exclusive.

3)Why do you assume someone has to create the universe?
And if you assume that...then who created that someone? Because then it's turtles all the way down...
Baba to be sincere you know nothing, simple prove to me that God exists,if you can do it then I will take your creation part serious,all you are doing is wailing without evidence,lol.

Questone 1 , 2 and 3 have not been answered . Why ?

Jashub:
Questone 1 , 2 and 3 have not been answered . Why ?

My previous question have not been answered why?

Mufakirnaqdiun:

My previous question have not been answered why?

I already brought a propositional question that handled that. Read my previous posts and stop being silly.


Incase you forgot it, here is the question:

which better explains reality: theism or atheism?

Jashub:
I already brought a propositional question that handled that. Read my previous posts and stop beingcl

I already gave an answer that handled your question,now prove to me that God exists?
"If God didn't do this, who then did it" is not a proof,we need concrete proof, anyone can assert anything to any creature without evidence so stop foaming in the mouth and prove that your God exist.

Jashub:
I already brought a propositional question that handled that. Read my previous posts and stop being silly.


Incase you forgot it, here is the question:

which better explains reality: theism or atheism?

Such a great SOUL. I will keep praying for you my love

Mercisharelove:



Such a great SOUL. I will keep praying for you my love

Lovey dovey,lol
When will you pray for natural disasters to stop?

Mufakirnaqdiun:

Lovey dovey,lol
When will you pray for natural disasters to stop?

Some of you guys just deserve BRUTAL BEATING.

If you don't have anything reasonable to say, just keep your f****** mouth shut.

Fira09:


Some of you guys just deserve BRUTAL BEATING.

If you don't have anything reasonable to say, just keep your f****** mouth shut.

Go and beat God abeg,he deserves it more,lol

Mufakirnaqdiun:

Go and beat God abeg,he deserves it more,lol

Tueeeeeeh.

witless being,

Get the bleep out of my mention.

Fira09:


Tueeeeeeh.

witless being,

Get the bleep out of my mention.

But you came into my mention na, lol

Mufakirnaqdiun:

I already gave an answer that handled your question,now prove to me that God exists?
"If God didn't do this, who then did it" is not a proof,we need concrete proof, anyone can assert anything to any creature without evidence so stop foaming in the mouth and prove that your God exist.

So how did we come into existence ...? And how do we have moral laws ? Where did universal laws like the law of gravity and motion come from? If you don't know the answer , then certain something created them . Or do you want to tell me everything we see is the cause of a cosmological accident?

Jashub:
So how did we existence come ...? And how do we have moral laws ? Where did universal laws like the law of gravity and motion come from? If you don't know the answer , then certain something created them . Or do you want to tell me everything we see is the cause of a cosmological accident?

Do you now agree that God didn't create them, neither does he exist?

Mufakirnaqdiun:

Do you now agree that God didn't create them, neither does he exist?

God created them if not, how did they come ...? Oya answer na

Jashub:
God created them if not, how did they come ...? Oya answer na

Why are you talking without proof sir, show me the evidence that god created human?
Why not Spiderman or Odin,why your own God?
You are not giving me evidence for his existence,and you are Making a false assertion without proof,if you are not ready to accept his inexistence then what's the point of the argument?

Mufakirnaqdiun:

Why are you talking without proof sir, show me the evidence that god created human?
Why not Spiderman or Odin,why your own God?
You are not giving me evidence for his existence,and you are Making a false assertion without proof,if you are not ready to accept his inexistence then what's the point of the argument?

I have shown you , but you chose to discard the evidences


Again I say to you:

1. Where do universal laws come from?

2. Where do moral laws come from ?

3. I if you are bunch of chemicals (according to science ), then how can you trust your own thinking ?

Jashub:
I have shown you , but you chose to discard the evidences


Again I say to you:

1. Where do universal laws come from?

2. Where do moral laws come from ?

3. I if you are bunch of chemicals (according to science ), then how can you trust your own thinking ?

Shown me which evidence?
Ogbeni stop crying and show me the evidence of God abeg,till then keep running around,lol

Mufakirnaqdiun:

Shown me which evidence?
Ogbeni stop crying and show me the evidence of God abeg,till then keep running around,lol

Oga ,
I do not have time for your illogical banter of confusion . But here are the facts:


The world you are living in is created by God . If not , who created it ?

The science you worship is founded on universal laws that were created by God . If you say they were not created by God, then who created them?

The moral laws we have in society were given by God because God is the higher standard we as humans look up to . If you say God did not give those laws , then tell me why it is wrong to kill babies ?

Jashub:
Oga ,
I do not have time for your illogical banter of confusion . But here are the facts:


The world you are living in is created by God . If not , who created it ?

The science you worship is founded on universal laws that were created by God . If you say they were not created by God, then who created them?

The moral laws we have in society were given by God because God is the higher standard we as humans look up to . If you say God did not give those laws , then tell me why it is wrong to kill babies ?

Proof or keep shouting, lol

Mufakirnaqdiun:

Proof or keep shouting, lol

See the proof here :

The world you live in was created by God . If not , who created it ?

The science you worship is founded on universal laws that were created by God . If you say they were not created by God, then who created them?

The moral laws we have in society were given by God because God is the higher standard we as humans look up to . If you say God did not give those laws , then tell me why it is wrong to kill babies ?

Jashub:
See the proof here :

The world you live in was created by God . If not , who created it ? grin

The science you worship is founded on universal laws that were created by God . If you say they were not created by God, then who created them? grin

The moral laws we have in society were given by God because God is the higher standard we as humans look up to . If you say God did not give those laws , then tell me why it is wrong to kill babies ?

Ok no proof,lol

Mufakirnaqdiun:

Ok no proof,lol

A fool is asking for the proof of God, yet he does not request for the proof of why he has never seen atoms

Jashub:
A fool is asking for the proof of God, yet he does not request for the proof of why he has never seen atoms

Why are you crying?
Proof or not?

Mufakirnaqdiun:

Why are you crying?
Proof or not?

You will surely get the proof when you cross the river, wasted soul

Mercisharelove:



You will surely get the proof when you cross the river, wasted soul

You just call me a wasted soul because I demand evidence of your God? wow.

Mufakirnaqdiun:

You just call me a wasted soul because I demand evidence of your God? wow.

Why don't you tell your parents to their faces that they didn't give birth to you, since you are looking for proof.

Tell them and see how they feel.

Some of you just open your mouth and be asking stupid questions without thinking.

Mercisharelove:



Why don't you tell your parents to their faces that they didn't give birth to you, since you are looking for proof.

Tell them and see how they feel.

Some of you just open your mouth and be asking stupid questions without thinking.

You are such a rude girl,you need to be ass whooped for being so uncouth.
Is it so hard for you to prove the existence of your God?

Mufakirnaqdiun:

You are such a rude girl,you need to be ass whooped for being so uncouth.
Is it so hard for you to prove the existence of your God?

Why can't you prove that your father and mother are not your parents.

Prove it

Give me one proof that your father and mother are not your parents and I will believe you.

Tell me you fell from the sky

Mufakirnaqdiun:

You are such a rude girl,you need to be ass whooped for being so uncouth.
Is it so hard for you to prove the existence of your God?

Tell me you created yourself.