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The Ideal Ground Attack Aircraft For Nigeria's War On Terror. by Jakumo(m): 11:58am On Sep 24, 2022
The Amwari Light Attack Aircraft is manufactured in South Africa, with the Third World market in mind. Compared to the Brazilian and USA-made Super Tucano propeller-driven ground attack aircraft recently purchased by the Nigerian air force at a cost of $83 million dollars each , the South African Amwari plane sells at just $10 million dollars per plane, excluding weapons option surcharges which MAY bring the price up to a still affordable $15 million US dollars per plane.

Using these conservative estimates, FIVE or more of the Amwari planes could be purchased for the price of ONE Super Tucano. The Nigerian military would do well to look into the Amwari plane from South Africa as a viable, affordable, and highly capable alternative to the Super Tucano, for deployment in the nation's ongoing war against terror.

Below are some photographs, facts, and figures detailing this sleek war machine for budget-conscious developing nations like Nigeria. Among many other design innovations of this remarkable African-built plane, the rear-facing propeller is located in a much safer position for the ground crew by being placed in the space between the two tail booms, thereby making it far less likely that anyone on the tarmac might accidentally walk into a spinning propeller. The engine for this beautiful plane is a tried and tested power plant manufactured in Canada's Pratt and Whitney factories.

Perhaps the most attractive feature of the Amwari plane is that cost can be drastically reduced by selling it in kit form that is then assembled in dedicated plants constructed under license in the various countries where the planes are to be deployed. Below are the results of my informal research into the Amwari airplane and its very affordable pricing in comparison to the Super Tucano planes recently delivered to Nigeria.

Below are a few links to streamline the research in case any Nigerian Airforce procurement officers ever visit this heavily-traveled discussion forum.

Punch News Super Tucano $500m for SIX planes
https://punchng.com/six-tucano-jets-cost-almost-500m-us-envoy/

Super Tucano Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embraer_EMB_314_Super_Tucano#:~:text=The%20changes%20had%20been%20so,trainer%20aircraft%20in%20several%20respects.

Mwari Aircraft Youtube Video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZccbXSmyesE

Mwari Plane at Airshow

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZ9cj5FF1zI

Mwari Aircraft Writeup
https://www.greedysouth.co.zw/2022/09/take-closer-look-at-mwari-first.html

Mwari Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AHRLAC_Holdings_Ahrlac

Mwari Writeup
https://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/south-africas-dirt-cheap-war-machine-14039

Re: The Ideal Ground Attack Aircraft For Nigeria's War On Terror. by Jakumo(m): 2:27pm On Sep 24, 2022
Two days ago the manufacturers of the Mwari plane posted another youtube video in which they acknowledge that their target market is fellow African countries. Nigeria can deploy FIVE times as many ground attack aircraft for the same cost as one single Super Tucano, if they switch over to this African-made jeep of the skies.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7ggFhII8tA
Re: The Ideal Ground Attack Aircraft For Nigeria's War On Terror. by GabrielYulaw(m): 9:21pm On Sep 25, 2022
A craft like this would be 100% perfect. We could get 50-100 of it and be able to patrol most places bandits, kidnappers and the like are active. It is not even that sophisticated and it should be able to negotiate a technological transfer that would make it possible to manufacture most of its components in this country.
Sadly though, we usually go for prestige stuff like the Tucano and the JF-17. Just imagine buying a dozen Tucanos for $500-$600 million, when we could had spent $200 to $300 million to buy 50 TB2 or drones like it and used the rest of the money to buy IFV and APC and properly kit out our army. In short, our defense procurement process is often a study in waste and cluelessness.

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Re: The Ideal Ground Attack Aircraft For Nigeria's War On Terror. by 3ple9iner: 9:53pm On Sep 25, 2022
I think we should understand that in military procurement, the price of an hardware isn't always a deciding factor but one important thing is if it is battle tested. You can't say Nigeria should by an aircraft because it is cheap when it has been tested in battle, this could cause doom later on. Nigeria is a developing country but economically and military wise so I feel it would be better for us to buy hardwares that have been battle proven and not one that we can't beat our chest for all because it is cheap.

My thoughts.

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Re: The Ideal Ground Attack Aircraft For Nigeria's War On Terror. by ebufa: 11:23pm On Sep 25, 2022
GabrielYulaw:
A craft like this would be 100% perfect. We could get 50-100 of it and be able to patrol most places bandits, kidnappers and the like are active. It is not even that sophisticated and it should be able to negotiate a technological transfer that would make it possible to manufacture most of its components in this country.
Sadly though, we usually go for prestige stuff like the Tucano and the JF-17. Just imagine buying a dozen Tucanos for $500-$600 million, when we could had spent $200 to $300 million to buy 50 TB2 or drones like it and used the rest of the money to buy IFV and APC and properly kit out our army. In short, our defense procurement process is often a study in waste and cluelessness.




it is not cluelessness o! its calculated pecuniary mischief........which inevitably leads to exponential increase in the 'clueless' foreign bank account!

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Re: The Ideal Ground Attack Aircraft For Nigeria's War On Terror. by ebufa: 11:29pm On Sep 25, 2022
Jakumo:
The Amwari Light Attack Aircraft is manufactured in South Africa, with the Third World market in mind. Compared to the Brazilian and USA-made Super Tucano propeller-driven ground attack aircraft recently purchased by the Nigerian air force at a cost of $83 million dollars each , the South African Amwari plane sells at just $10 million dollars per plane, excluding weapons option surcharges which MAY bring the price up to a still affordable $15 million US dollars per plane.

Using these conservative estimates, FIVE or more of the Amwari planes could be purchased for the price of ONE Super Tucano. The Nigerian military would do well to look into the Amwari plane from South Africa as a viable, affordable, and highly capable alternative to the Super Tucano, for deployment in the nation's ongoing war against terror.

Below are some photographs, facts, and figures detailing this sleek war machine for budget-conscious developing nations like Nigeria. Among many other design innovations of this remarkable African-built plane, the rear-facing propeller is located in a much safer position for the ground crew by being placed in the space between the two tail booms, thereby making it far less likely that anyone on the tarmac might accidentally walk into a spinning propeller. The engine for this beautiful plane is a tried and tested power plant manufactured in Canada's Pratt and Whitney factories.

Perhaps the most attractive feature of the Amwari plane is that cost can be drastically reduced by selling it in kit form that is then assembled in dedicated plants constructed under license in the various countries where the planes are to be deployed. Below are the results of my informal research into the Amwari airplane and its very affordable pricing in comparison to the Super Tucano planes recently delivered to Nigeria.

Below are a few links to streamline the research in case any Nigerian Airforce procurement officers ever visit this heavily-traveled discussion forum.

Punch News Super Tucano $500m for SIX planes
https://punchng.com/six-tucano-jets-cost-almost-500m-us-envoy/

Super Tucano Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embraer_EMB_314_Super_Tucano#:~:text=The%20changes%20had%20been%20so,trainer%20aircraft%20in%20several%20respects.

Mwari Aircraft Youtube Video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZccbXSmyesE

Mwari Plane at Airshow

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZ9cj5FF1zI

Mwari Aircraft Writeup
https://www.greedysouth.co.zw/2022/09/take-closer-look-at-mwari-first.html

Mwari Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AHRLAC_Holdings_Ahrlac

Mwari Writeup
https://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/south-africas-dirt-cheap-war-machine-14039




You do know that the mercurial west is invested in keeping us in a particular weak position, you will be shocked at the sort of Political and economic threat and blackmail that Nigeria will be subjected to if they ever broached the idea of buying those south african planes! our independence is just nominal !

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Re: The Ideal Ground Attack Aircraft For Nigeria's War On Terror. by GamalNasser: 11:30pm On Sep 25, 2022
The fact that it can't retract it's wheels shows you can't compare it to the Tucano , and also it uses push propeller show it will be a lot slower than then Tucano and can't as much weapons as the Tucano..well but it looks good for high way patrol
Re: The Ideal Ground Attack Aircraft For Nigeria's War On Terror. by Jakumo(m): 3:48am On Sep 26, 2022
GamalNasser:
The fact that it can't retract it's wheels shows you can't compare it to the Tucano , and also it uses push propeller show it will be a lot slower than then Tucano and can't as much weapons as the Tucano..well but it looks good for high way patrol

The Super Tucano cruises only 30 knots faster than the South African Mwari plane, so this valid observation that the cheaper plane's wheels do not fully retract obviously has very little effect on the aerodynamic profile of the cheaper aircraft. These aircraft both happen to be powered by reliable and robust Pratt and Whitney engines whose torque and horsepower ratings are not that far apart on the performance spectrum.

Also, the fact that the cheaper plane also carries a lighter weapons payload is not a deal breaker since the fleet of light attack aircraft could be numerically FIVE times as big if the cheaper South African alternative were to be selected instead of the Super Tucano. The Mwari plane could still be bought with the intention that they are deployed alongside the costlier Super Tucano in the theater of war.

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Re: The Ideal Ground Attack Aircraft For Nigeria's War On Terror. by Jakumo(m): 5:57am On Sep 26, 2022
GabrielYulaw:
A craft like this would be 100% perfect. We could get 50-100 of it and be able to patrol most places bandits, kidnappers and the like are active. It is not even that sophisticated and it should be able to negotiate a technological transfer that would make it possible to manufacture most of its components in this country.
Sadly though, we usually go for prestige stuff like the Tucano and the JF-17. Just imagine buying a dozen Tucanos for $500-$600 million, when we could had spent $200 to $300 million to buy 50 TB2 or drones like it and used the rest of the money to buy IFV and APC and properly kit out our army. In short, our defense procurement process is often a study in waste and cluelessness.

Drones for surveillance and ground attack are definitely the most cost-effective aerial assets that can be acquired for counter-insurgency operations, and for developing nations like Nigeria with tight purse strings, all roads lead to Turkey, whose Bayraktar TB2 drones retail for an affordable $5 million US dollars, which is HALF the price of the base model Mwari manned aircraft mentioned earlier in this discussion.

In comparison to the $83 million US dollar Super Tucano, the 5 million naira price tag of the Bayraktar TB2 drone means SIXTEEN of those versatile Turkish drones could be purchased for the price of ONE more Super Tucano manned attack aircraft. Nigeria's military high command MUST expand their drone fleet to meet growing security threats in the West African seaboard.

A combined ground attack air force made up of manned Mwari aircraft and Turkish Bayraktar drones would be the most cost-effective procurement regime that will give teeth to the nation's strategic air command, without breaking the bank.

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Re: The Ideal Ground Attack Aircraft For Nigeria's War On Terror. by Jakumo(m): 7:32pm On Sep 27, 2022
The Mwari light attack plane is assembled under license in the USA where it has been designated as the "Bronco-2" by the US Marine Corps who have operated a squadron of these South African light attack and reconnaissance aircraft since 2018. If this budget-priced aerial asset is considered to be good enough for the US Marine Corps, then it should certainly tick all the boxes for the Nigerian Air Force or army.

Re: The Ideal Ground Attack Aircraft For Nigeria's War On Terror. by GabrielYulaw(m): 5:20pm On Sep 28, 2022
GamalNasser:
The fact that it can't retract it's wheels shows you can't compare it to the Tucano , and also it uses push propeller show it will be a lot slower than then Tucano and can't as much weapons as the Tucano..well but it looks good for high way patrol

If, God forbid, bandits attacked your village, would you rather the army send a single Tucano to shoot them up or send 6-7 Mwari? Would the single Tucano be able to successfully engage and eliminate the disparate groups of bandits attacking your village, or would the group of 7 Mwari be more up to the task?

See, quantity is often more important than quality. That's why I often shake my head at the NA buying Mil Mi 35s for like $30 million apiece when there are AH-6 choppers available for like $2-$3 million apiece. Sure the Mil Mi 35 is armored and looks fearsome. But the Ah-6 is far more agile, and able to carry a reasonable weapon load. Plus, if we bought something like that in good quantities and one got shot down, the loss won't be much. Whereas, if a Mil Mi 35 got shot down, na $35 million down the drain.

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Re: The Ideal Ground Attack Aircraft For Nigeria's War On Terror. by GamalNasser: 5:22pm On Sep 28, 2022
GabrielYulaw:


If, God forbid, bandits attacked your village, would you rather the army send a single Tucano to shoot them up or send 6-7 Mwari? Would the single Tucano be able to successfully engage and eliminate the disparate groups of bandits attacking your village, or would the group of 7 Mwari be more up to the task?

See, quantity is often more important than quality. That's why I often shake my head at the NA buying Mil Mi 35s for like $30 million apiece when there are AH-6 choppers available for like $2-$3 million apiece. Sure the Mil Mi 35 is armored and looks fearsome. But the Ah-6 is far more agile, and able to carry a reasonable weapon load. Plus, if we bought something like that in good quantities and one got shot down, the loss won't be much. Whereas, if a Mil Mi 35 got shot down, na $35 million down the drain.

I have gone far beyond such assets..I believe govts facing what Nigeria is facing need more of unmanned loitering weapons systems than any manned turboprop
Re: The Ideal Ground Attack Aircraft For Nigeria's War On Terror. by GabrielYulaw(m): 5:29pm On Sep 28, 2022
GamalNasser:


I have gone far beyond such assets..I believe govts facing what Nigeria is facing need more of unmanned loitering weapons systems than any manned turboprop

It is not that simple bro. Yes, ne need to pivot to unmanned assets. Such would be perfect for patrolling our vast borders and oil installations. However, we currently don't have a military satellite. That restricts control of our unmanned assets to like 200km and that's very unsatisfactory. So, even if we bought the latest version of the Predator or Global Hawk, we can't use it across more than 200km and that is totally unsatisfactory.

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Re: The Ideal Ground Attack Aircraft For Nigeria's War On Terror. by Jakumo(m): 5:29am On Oct 06, 2022
Just stumbled on a really nice video clip that shows the undercarriage retraction process shortly after takeoff. This is an aircraft that is so ugly it is beautiful to behold.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLREORgu5B8

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Re: The Ideal Ground Attack Aircraft For Nigeria's War On Terror. by Jakumo(m): 5:28pm On Oct 07, 2022
South Africa's Paramount Group, who design and build the Mwari ground attack plane, released this highly informative video clip in 2021, which includes a visual tour of the aircraft's weapons and surveillance options, based around a rapidly replaceable module that fits into the underside of the plane, and can be swapped out for mission variability in a matter of hours.

This means that the same airplane that was first sent to search for terrorist hideouts using high-tech long-range optical sensors, could later join other air assets tasked with bombarding ground targets using surgically accurate rocket salvos or 20mm cannon fire. Think of the Mwari as the renegade bastard son of a US-made A10 Warthog, priced for budget-conscious developing nations.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eqgk5Tt6KZk
Re: The Ideal Ground Attack Aircraft For Nigeria's War On Terror. by orisa37: 2:57am On Oct 08, 2022
MACBAN IS GONE VIRAL.
Re: The Ideal Ground Attack Aircraft For Nigeria's War On Terror. by orisa37: 2:59am On Oct 08, 2022
MACBAN IS GONE VIRAL.

OBAMA KERRY GIGGLING WHEREVER THEY'RE NOW.
Re: The Ideal Ground Attack Aircraft For Nigeria's War On Terror. by Jakumo(m): 5:51am On Oct 08, 2022
orisa37:
MACBAN IS GONE VIRAL.

OBAMA KERRY GIGGLING WHEREVER THEY'RE NOW.

My dictionary has not helped me at all in trying to understand the sentence you wrote above here. I still thank you for contributing to this topic.

God bless Algeria.

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Re: The Ideal Ground Attack Aircraft For Nigeria's War On Terror. by orisa37: 12:27pm On Oct 08, 2022
Thanks Jakumo.
This is "OBAMA-SULTANATE-BUHARI'S" DIPLOMACY..
Re: The Ideal Ground Attack Aircraft For Nigeria's War On Terror. by Jakumo(m): 6:46am On Oct 15, 2022
orisa37:
Thanks Jakumo.
This is "OBAMA-SULTANATE-BUHARI'S" DIPLOMACY..

Sultan Obama would not be amused to hear this remark.
Re: The Ideal Ground Attack Aircraft For Nigeria's War On Terror. by orisa37: 6:32pm On Oct 15, 2022
Jakumo:


Sultan Obama would not be amused to hear this remark.

May God forgive them.
Re: The Ideal Ground Attack Aircraft For Nigeria's War On Terror. by Jakumo(m): 9:12am On Oct 22, 2022
Turns out no less than SIX special forces arms of the US military have now taken delivery of these South African-designed aircraft because recognition for the combat capabilities of this bird just keeps growing. Assembled under license in the USA as the Bronco II Light Attack Plane, these uniquely shaped light attack platforms are growing in popularity among the military forces of industrialized nations and the Third World alike.

Here is another video clip about the design and manufacturing process of the Mwari plane, which can be licensed for worldwide production.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egtrWmKNWbw


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNXEPkD85Uo

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