Kobojunkie:
1. Because said individuals are Christians by name and not by deed.
2. Open your mind to Jesus Christ at least so you understand what it means to be Christ-ian. The fact that you consider Christianity in terms of wealth or lack of wealth clearly reveals you have a faulty foundation of what it means to be Christian.

Why is this wealth so hard to unlock? Don't u think it's just a cruise?

Some sheepee stuffs?

Remember justice delayed is justice denied.

Why will God make it so hard to tap his wealth, since he has abundance. Even when his people are dying of starvation?

LikeAking:
1. Are u insinuating, millions of Christians (95%) unimuned to the hash realities of life are all doing it wrong?
2. If yes. Kindly tell me how I will do it right and also show people doing it that way, who are truly immuned to the hash realities of like.

1. I believe I have been more than clear about the fact that what passes as Christianity today in no way compares with that established as Christianity by Jesus Christ, the one who is meant to be the Christ in Christ-ianity.

2. If you want to get it right, then there is no other way but to go back to the beginning which is the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ, as I have been saying you should.

LikeAking:
1. Why is this wealth so hard to unlock? Don't u think it's just a cruise? Some sheepee stuffs?
2. Remember justice delayed is justice denied.
3. Why will God make it so hard to tap his wealth, since he has abundance. Even when his people are dying of starvation?

1. If wealth is what you need, you don't need Jesus Christ who instead said that you have to sell everything you have and give it all away to the poor in order to have a part in Heaven.

2. What in the world has justice to do with anything here?

3. God is not your National mint nor the master of the economies of men. Again, if wealth is what you desire, Jesus Christ is the opposite of what you need. God feeds those who belong to Him. He didn't say He would feed all poor people and unbelievers. So stop mistaking God for some celestial Santa Claus because He is nothing like that nor did He ever describe Himself as such.

Kobojunkie:
1. If wealth is what you need, you don't need Jesus Christ who instead said that you have to sell everything you have and give it all away to the poor in order to have a part in Heaven.

2. What in the world has justice to do with anything here?

3. God is not your National mint nor the master of the economies of men. Again, if wealth is what you desire, Jesus Christ is the opposite of what you need. God feeds those who belong to Him. He didn't say He would feed all poor people and unbelievers. So stop mistaking God for some celestial Santa Claus because He is nothing like that nor did He ever describe Himself as such.

I don't think u have read a bible b4.

God said he will provide all our needs.

Their are many financial miracles in the Bible..

God said is follows will lay wealth like the dust of the earth.

U got it wrong here .

LikeAking:
I don't think u have read a bible b4. God said he will provide all our needs. Their are many financial miracles in the Bible.. God said is follows will lay wealth like the dust of the earth. U got it wrong here .

And here we go again....

God will provide the needs of all those who belong to Him, those who live their lives in submission to and obedience of the teachings of Jesus Christ, the ones who have abandoned all they have in this world in order to obtain a part in Heaven, to begin with - Matthew 13 vs 42- 44. Those who belong to God as those who store up treasures for themselves in Heaven and not here on earth....

You seek wealth here on earth but from the wrong source. Open your eyes and mind and see that Jesus Christ is not who you need if your desire is to become wealthy and successful by the standards of this world. The reason your pastors and mogs are wealthy by the standards of this world is not because of Jesus Christ but because of the many gullible followers they amassed for themselves and such dry in order to enrich themselves... that is the sheer business for them.

Kobojunkie:
And here we go again....

God will provide the needs of all those who belong to Him, those who live their lives in submission to and obedience of the teachings of Jesus Christ, the ones who have abandoned all they have in this world in order to obtain a part in Heaven, to begin with - Matthew 13 vs 42- 44. Those who belong to God as those who store up treasures for themselves in Heaven and not here on earth....

You seek wealth here on earth but from the wrong source. Open your eyes and mind and see that Jesus Christ is not who you need if your desire is to become wealthy and successful by the standards of this world. The reason your pastors and mogs are wealthy by the standards of this world is not because of Jesus Christ but because of the many gullible followers they amassed for themselves and such dry in order to enrich themselves... that is the sheer business for them.

But same God made Solomon and Job wealthy. That's from the Bible.

If xtainty is not about making money, then why are xtains commanded to pay tithes?

Why are the traditional worshipers stronger. Let's tell our selves the truth.

LikeAking:
1. But same God made Solomon and Job wealthy. That's from the Bible.
2. If xtainty is not about making money, then why are xtains commanded to pay tithes?
3. Why are the traditional worshipers stronger. Let's tell our selves the truth.

1. Solomon was not a follower of Jesus Christ. God didn't make the same deal He made with Solomon and those of His Old Covenant, that He made with those of His New Covenant, Jesus Christ, and so it is an error to conclude that since God gave to Solomon, God must also give to you.

In Jesus Christ, God instead told you to store up your treasures in Heaven meaning you are not to gather up treasure for yourself here on earth like Solomon, and other Old Covenant people were allowed to. So you can't amass for yourself wealth here on earth and serve Jesus Christ at the same time. Those who claim to are nothing but liars.

2. Again, Christianity is according to God's New Covenant and Law, Jesus Christ, and Jesus Christ never asked His followers to pay Him or anyone Tithe. As a matter of fact, He made it clear that those who are Children of the King do not pay tithes to the King, and that it is instead the people of God - those of the Old Covenant - that are called to pay tithes to the King. So when you lot pay tithe pretending you do so in the name of Jesus Christ, you instead deny yourselves sonship with God by your acts of disobedience

24 Jesus and his followers went to Capernaum. There the men who collect the two-drachma Temple tax came to Peter and asked, “Does your teacher pay the Temple tax?”
25 Peter answered, “Yes, he does.” Peter went into the house where Jesus was. Before Peter could speak,

Jesus said to him, “The kings on the earth get different kinds of taxes from people. But who are those who pay the taxes? Are they the king’s children? Or do other people pay the taxes? What do you think?”
26 Peter answered, “The other people pay the taxes.”
Jesus said, “Then the children of the king don’t have to pay taxes - Matthew 17 vs 24 - 26

As Jesus Christ made clear, the Children of God do not pay taxes/Tithe in His name. It is instead the people of God, Israel who are called by God to pay Tithes/taxes in His Name.

3. They are only stronger because you believe them to be stronger. They are stronger only to those who believe in them.

Kobojunkie:
1. Solomon was not a follower of Jesus Christ. God didn't make the same deal He made with Solomon and those of His Old Covenant, that He made with those of His New Covenant, Jesus Christ, and so it is an error to conclude that since God gave to Solomon, God must also give to you.

2. Again, Christianity is according to God's New Covenant and Law, Jesus Christ, and Jesus Christ never asked His followers to pay Him or anyone Tithe. As a matter of fact, He made it clear that those who are Children of the King do not pay tithes to the King, and that it is instead the people of God - those of the Old Covenant - that are called to pay tithes to the King. So when you lot pay tithe pretending you do so in the name of Jesus Christ, you instead deny yourselves sonship with God by your acts of disobedience
As Jesus Christ made clear, the Children of God do not pay taxes/Tithe in His name. It is instead the people of God, Israel who are called by God to pay Tithes/taxes in His Name.

3. They are only stronger because you believe them to be stronger. They are stronger only to those who believe in them.

So what's are benefits of following Jesus?

Earthly benefits?

Protection zero

Money zero.

Mind u xtains spend allot and also do a lot for God.

LikeAking:
1. So what's are benefits of following Jesus? Earthly benefits? Protection zero. Money zero.

2. Mind u xtains spend allot and also do a lot for God.

1. Jesus Christ made it clear from over 2000 years ago that He has come to call those who are tired of this world(weary) and heavy laden to Himself, and He promised to give them rest from it all - Matthew 11 vs 28 - 30.. Along with His promise of rest, He promised His followers work(which He alone can give them to do), Peace, Joy, and Happiness, along with having all their needs met by God. So, if you are not one of those souls who are tired of the worries and troubles of this world, I am afraid Jesus Christ may not be the right answer for you.

2. Again, those of you who claim you spend a lot and also do a lot for God, do instead your will for yourselves thinking you do so for God. God never asked anyone to spend for Him nor did He ask men to do anything for Him that He has not directly commanded. So, most of the labors of those in what is today's Christian world are in vain, I am afraid.

If it was easy for juju to kill Christians, then by now, more than 80% of the Christians on earth would have been dead.

LilMissFavvy:
If it was easy for juju to kill Christians, then by now, more than 80% of the Christians on earth would have been dead.

80% or more of Christians that follow Jesus are into jazz or demonic spirits too

Kobojunkie:
1. Jesus Christ made it clear from over 2000 years ago that He has come to call those who are tired of this world(weary) and heavy laden to Himself, and He promised to give them rest from it all - Matthew 11 vs 28 - 30.. Along with His promise of rest, He promised His followers work(which He alone can give them to do), Peace, Joy, and Happiness, along with having all their needs met by God. So, if you are not one of those souls who are tired of the worries and troubles of this world, I am afraid Jesus Christ may not be the right answer for you.

2. Again, those of you who claim you spend a lot and also do a lot for God, do instead your will for yourselves thinking you do so for God. God never asked anyone to spend for Him nor did He ask men to do anything for Him that He has not directly commanded. So, most of the labors of those in what is today's Christian world are in vain, I am afraid.

Lets just conclude their is no gain following JESUS.

No spiritual protection, no money.

Na all man for him self.

I pray human will have the courage to know dia fate

LikeAking:
1. Lets just conclude their is no gain following JESUS. No spiritual protection, no money.

2. Na all man for him self. I pray human will have the courage to know dia fate

1. To the ordinary man who desires the things of this world and its fleeting pleasures, there is nothing to gain in Jesus Christ. As for what you call spiritual protection, those are things ordinary men who dabble in pagan rituals are interested in and so life in Jesus Christ in no way favors such men. Again, Jesus Christ made it clear that He has come for those who are weary - tired of this world and its bullsheet - and are heavy laden. Anyone who runs around thinking he fights spiritual battles has an ego that is of and is tied to relevance in this world. That person has nothing to gain from Jesus Christ who calls all to disconnect from this world.

2. Those who Jesus Christ is for are those who willingly give up the desires of this world, and have no belief in your juju and spiritual nonsense. These are those whose lives are ordered by God Himself and even their suffering and end are all to bring glory to Him.

LikeAking:
How many times will a pastor, bishop pray for a Christan before they will be free from bondage?

Many Christians in the church are in spiritual bondage, despite years of steadfastness..

One prayer should enough for what they call powerless powers.

While I acknowledge that there are certain things people would call “jazz" or “spiritual powers", i still think it is greatly overexaggerated on the part of Christianity. Especially the Nigerian type of Christianity.

And I think it all boils down to the mindset. Let me explain.

The average Nigerian christian feels entitled to certain benefits. They think because they worship a certain deity, then automatically they're supposed to have things easy.

A lot of them take certain actions but then expect their God to take responsibility... And when they unfortunately realize that reality doesn't work this way, they look for someone else to blame. Either village people, or satan himself.

Some give birth to more children they can afford to cater for, or have poor knowledge on financial matters, and the expect their “God" to take control. And when this doesn't happen, they blame village people.

Some create this mental notion that someone is desperately after their success or progress in life, and then go ahead to interpret the slightest bad thing that happens to them, as the work of evil powers and principalities... Forgetting that bad things happen to everyone.. regardless of who you are. That's life.

Some others depend solely on their God, while making little to no effort to better their own lives, and then when things go south.. they look for someone else to put the blame on.

Once again.. I'm not saying things like Jazz don't exist. They do. But a lot of the suffering you see in Nigeria today isn't the fault of some village entity. It's the by-product of the kind of country we're in

You definitely are joking, even the percentage you mentioned is ridiculous.

MindHacker9009:


80% or more of Christians that follow Jesus are into jazz or demonic spirits too

The true God warned His worshipers (Israelites) not to engage demons (fallen angels) for any reason whatsoever {Deuteronomy 18:9-13} the reason for this is because when people contact demons they're choosing the god of their choice and the true God can't continue dragging faithless people with lesser spirits. So if you want to stay on the side of the true God decide once and Satan will have no power over you {James 4:7-8} the major factor leading billions to demons is the material things they WANT though God promised to supply all our NEEDS {Matthew 6:25-32} but since majority aren't contented with NEEDS {Psalms 131:2 compare to 1Timothy 6:8} but lustfully running after unlimited WANTS they can't break free from Satan, demons and their human agents because WANTS are the bait the devil is using to catch many souls {Luke 4:5-6} that's why they're falling prey to demonic attacks! 1Timothy 6:9-10

So if you're a Christian the only thing you should be worried about is the kingdom of God and it's righteous, Satan won't know anything to do to buy your soul and since the true God will not abandon you {Hebrews 13:5} but keep supplying all your NEEDS Satan will be confused about you that's when everything else will become a bonus to you after all Satan knew very well that he can't use anything as bait to catch you {Matthew 6:33} in the world we live in today nothing belongs to anyone because there is lots and lots of evil days ahead! Matthew 6:34

God bless you and may you have PEACE!

They're not CHRISTIANS

Wilgrea7:


While I acknowledge that there are certain things people would call “jazz" or “spiritual powers", i still think it is greatly overexaggerated on the part of Christianity. Especially the Nigerian type of Christianity.

And I think it all boils down to the mindset. Let me explain.

The average Nigerian christian feels entitled to certain benefits. They think because they worship a certain deity, then automatically they're supposed to have things easy.

A lot of them take certain actions but then expect their God to take responsibility... And when they unfortunately realize that reality doesn't work this way, they look for someone else to blame. Either village people, or satan himself.

Some give birth to more children they can afford to cater for, or have poor knowledge on financial matters, and the expect their “God" to take control. And when this doesn't happen, they blame village people.

Some create this mental notion that someone is desperately after their success or progress in life, and then go ahead to interpret the slightest bad thing that happens to them, as the work of evil powers and principalities... Forgetting that bad things happen to everyone.. regardless of who you are. That's life.

Some others depend solely on their God, while making little to no effort to better their own lives, and then when things go south.. they look for someone else to put the blame on.

Once again.. I'm not saying things like Jazz don't exist. They do. But a lot of the suffering you see in Nigeria today isn't the fault of some village entity. It's the by-product of the kind of country we're in

Why should someone worship a diety that claims to be the creator of the world and still suffer various set backs.

What's the essessence of having a God? Even humans with God fathers enjoy certain privillages. Even kids with school mothers and fathers enjoy certain privillages. Why will people with a big God enjoy zero privillages.

LikeAking:
We have all witnessed Christians been attacked by people with spiritual powers. Some of them have lost their life's, financiers, health, etc to wicked juju attacks.

Abeg no cum here form ignorance.

Why is JUJU still harming Christians? Even the pastors are not left out..

Juju only kills Africans and those from the developing world.

LikeAking:

Why should someone worship a diety that claims to be the creator of the world and still suffer various set backs.

What's the essessence of having a God? Even humans with God fathers enjoy certain privillages. Even kids with school mothers and fathers enjoy certain privillages. Why will people with a big God enjoy zero privillages.

This is why it is important to understand what the belief if in fact about rather than continue with this silly "anything goes" mindset of yours thinking you are justified in that ridiculousness.

Jesus Christ more than explained exactly who it is He came for over 2000 years ago and what it is He offers to His followers. The sufferings and setbacks you complain of are born of your general ignorance of the Truth of God, all because you refuse to pay attention to Jesus Christ.

Kobojunkie:
This is why it is important to understand what the belief if in fact about rather than continue with this silly "anything goes" mindset of yours thinking you are justified in that ridiculousness.

Jesus Christ more than explained exactly who it is He came for over 2000 years ago and what it is He offers to His followers. The sufferings and setbacks you complain of are born of your general ignorance of the Truth of God, all because you refuse to pay attention to Jesus Christ.

Even u caping also have set backs, fears etc.

Stop pretending bro, b real..

Jesus said dis, Jesus said day...

We are talking about reality not mere words and promises.

You really need a eye opening encounter.


You are still believing words not action.

I am talking about action not alphabets.

U get?

LikeAking:
1
.Even u caping also have set backs, fears etc. Stop pretending bro, b real..Jesus said dis, Jesus said day...
We are talking about reality not mere words and promises.

You really need a eye opening encounter.You are still believing words not action.I am talking about action not alphabets. U get?

1. So what setbacks do you suppose I have at this point in my decision to submit to following Jesus Christ? My life in Jesus Christ is my reality so why do you assume your disconnect is mine or everyone else's?

2. Encounter with what again?.

LikeAking:


Why should someone worship a diety that claims to be the creator of the world and still suffer various set backs.

What's the essessence of having a God? Even humans with God fathers enjoy certain privillages. Even kids with school mothers and fathers enjoy certain privillages. Why will people with a big God enjoy zero privillages.

Like I said, it's the common Christian mentality. Maybe one of the Christians here can explain further.

They're the ones that elevate their God, and their relationship to him so much.. despite experiencing life just like every other person.

Dtruthspeaker... MaxinDhouse... Over to you

Wilgrea7:


Like I said, it's the common Christian mentality. Maybe one of the Christians here can explain further.

They're the ones that elevate their God, and their relationship to him so much.. despite experiencing life just like every other person.

Dtruthspeaker... MaxinDhouse... Over to you

It's simple. You are not His Child. Hence the reason of being Born Again. (Adoption)

Evil Tree, evil fruit, good Tree, good fruit.

So the father of all evil people is Satan and not God.

Therefore they can not have any rights or privileges or benefits from God. They have to ask from Satan and unfortunately for them, Satan can not give any good thing.

Appart from King David, Solomon and few others, those who follow the path of the Sovereign God often are not materially rich from start. Some left their riches to follow the Lord. With the issue of juju as the thread discussed, I think this is something that required careful search and prayer. For juju or witchcraft to catch a believer, it's contradict the bible.

Dtruthspeaker:


It's simple. You are not His Child. Hence the reason of being Born Again. (Adoption)

Evil Tree, evil fruit, good Tree, good fruit.

So the father of all evil people is Satan and not God.

Therefore they can not have any rights or privileges or benefits from God. They have to ask from Satan and unfortunately for them, Satan can not give any good thing.

I don't remember asking Satan for anything. If i don't believe in your God, what makes you think I'll believe in your satan?

Also, your God Satan analogy fails to address the topic at hand. Christians, just like everyone else, still experience bad things, even though they claim their God is supposed to eliminate such experiences from their lives.

Wilgrea7:


Like I said, it's the common Christian mentality. Maybe one of the Christians here can explain further.

They're the ones that elevate their God, and their relationship to him so much.. despite experiencing life just like every other person.

Dtruthspeaker... MaxinDhouse... Over to you

Very accurate.

Wilgrea7:


I don't remember asking Satan for anything. If i don't believe in your God, what makes you think I'll believe in your satan?

Also, your God Satan analogy fails to address the topic at hand. Christians, just like everyone else, still experience bad things, even though they claim their God is supposed to eliminate such experiences from their lives.

Accurate!

LikeAking:


Grammar! Grammar!!

Explain @ why xtains still get attacked by jazz. I am reading up.

Many ladies are single cos someone with spiritual powers made it so. Some have been married of in the spiritual realm.

Some their fathers, mother's, g fadas, etc have used their marriage, wealth for sacrifice. They attend church but are still in bondage.

Their pastors have prayed for them, yet no solution.

You don't know Christians. Christians are not people who go to church. Unbelievers call every church goer a Christian, but they're not. Christians are very few in number in every congregation you see Sundays. They have a close relationship with God, and are a terror to the kingdom of darkness. This is where the people of the world get confused, Calling every church goer a Christian. This is a clear case of delusion.

LikeAking:
We have all witnessed Christians been attacked by people with spiritual powers. Some of them have lost their life's, financiers, health, etc to wicked juju attacks.

Abeg no cum here form ignorance.

Why is JUJU still harming Christians? Even the pastors are not left out..

As a Christian I believe juju exists the bible says we fight against spiritual powers in high places so any Christian who isn't as spiritually strong as those powers will get attached.

Lawag3:
As a Christian I believe juju exists the bible says we fight against spiritual powers in high places so any Christian who isn't as spiritually strong as those powers will get attached.

Bible does not say that. Jesus Christ instead told His followers that He has overcome the world on their behalf, this over 2000 years ago. He also informed them that the one called Satan, the enemy, does not have power over them, so why some of you pretend you fight some imagined spiritual powers as the Babalawos and pagans do is beyond me.

If the one I belong to is already more powerful than the one who is the enemy, and the one whom I belong to already overcame even the world for my sake, what battle again is there to fight when all I am required to do by the one who is my master is to trust and obey HIm?

RoyalDiadems:


You don't know Christians. Christians are not people who go to church. Unbelievers call every church goer a Christian, but they're not. Christians are very few in number in every congregation you see Sundays. They have a close relationship with God, and are a terror to the kingdom of darkness. This is where the people of the world get confused, Calling every church goer a Christian. This is a clear case of delusion.

Very funny.

Can u point out one person who is a true xtains and anoda who is not ?. All these are just relgious excuses.


U can't assume things. Even dedicated pastors are victims. Assuming all the victims are not close to God is totally wrong.

Na una normal excuses.