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Re: Why Can't Today's African Reject The Outcome Of The Berlin Conference? by ScamHunter: 7:24am On Oct 28, 2022
Quintopia:


Your first statement is false, and hence the rest of your post is based on a faulty foundation.

What do you mean by ''Nigeria is not working'?

That is simply your personal opinion and is not based on fact or reality.

Nations do not just rise and succeed and grow without any problems or challenges.

Go and read the histories of all the countries you see ''working'' today.

Their histories are written in blood, sweat, tears, disagreements, conflicts, and other woes, from which they emerged and became strong nations.

Nigeria's challenges are not insurmountable. Not even close.

Today you complain about Fulani herdsmen, boko haram etc, whose combined atrocities may have led to maybe 100,000 deaths in the last decade.

Can you compare that to what Russians experienced under Stalin, whose dictatorship caused the death of over 10 million Russians?

What about Germany under Hitler? 10 million dead, and their major cities like Hamburg, Cologne, Dresden and Berlin bombed to ashes.

Or what about what South Africa went through during apartheid?

What about the USA itself that endured a bloody civil war, slavery, and civil rights upheavals?

China that you mentioned, their history is soaked in the blood of millions of Chinese dissidents, killed and tortured for opposing the brutal dictatorship there, and its communist policies.

Yet they all survived these tragedies, and proceeded to excel as nations, so why can YOU not overcome a few illiterate Fulani herdsmen instead of destroying and balkanizing your country?


What you overlooked is that those countries went through all those and survived because they have a fundamentally strong foundation due to the fact that majority had something in common. Can Nigeria survive considering that majority have nothing in common? The Russians are mainly Slavs, the Germans are Germans, the Chinese are mainly Hans and the Americans mainly immigrants. You cannot say the same for Nigeria where there is nothing common holding the tribes together debar a foreign country, Britain, who sees the nation as a warehouse of raw materials to be exploited and her wealth stolen while the people are impoverished. That's why trillions of dollars worth of crude oil is stolen and unaccounted for.

A man from Sokoto or Benue believes in Nigeria as long as it gives him safe economic landing. The man from Kano would prefer to be ruled with a different constitution, 80% of Igbo, a major tribe do not believe in Nigeria, 20-30% of Yoruba and counting do not. The Fulani that you swept their threat under the table have displaced and systematically murdered many indigenous people and are waiting for another Fulani to gain power to continue the onslaught.

What is obvious is that Nigeria as presently constituted is not just working but also WILL NEVER WORK. Only the undiscerning fails to understand that the country only works in a Dreamland and in the mind of a thieving political class holding forth for the colonialists who are still very much the only beneficiaries of whatever the country stands for.

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Re: Why Can't Today's African Reject The Outcome Of The Berlin Conference? by ScamHunter: 7:38am On Oct 28, 2022
Quintopia:


They were ALL forced to be countries by EXTERNAL forces. China was not always one nation. She was divided into multiple states and it was people who were foreign to each of those states who came in and forced them to be part of the China project, through war, blackmail and brigandage.

South Africa was forced and amalgamated to become one nation by its foreign colonizers.

The British were forced into existence through numerous wars and invasions.



NO no no no no. ''WE'' don't hate each other.

YOU hate Nigerians.

Nigerians don't hate you.

11 million Igbos, according to Ohaneze, live and work in northern Nigeria, unmolested, unharrassed, and uninterrupted by the Hausa and Fulani majority there.

From that region, Igbos extract trillions of naira yearly in trade profits, with which they enrich their Eastern homeland with multiple mansions, hotels, factories, and edifices.

Another 10 million Igbos live and work in the west and middle belt peacefully, and they prosper and intermarry and do anythng they like in those places without harassment.

So Nigerians don't hate you.

It is you who hates Nigerians
, the same Nigerians you prosper by, and you need to learn to unhate, and quit being evil, and quit plotting selfishly and greedily to secede with the Niger Delta oil and gas resources which the entire country relies on for its growth and prosperity.

See: I rejected Biafra because FG wouldn't give me Rivers State and Benue - Nnamdi Kanu

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2017/07/rejected-biafra-5-igbo-states-nnamdi-kanu/

Mouthpiece of Nigerians and a judge with evil intent. Since 1945, Nigeria has been killing Igbos yet it is Igbo that hate Nigerians.

You want Igbo in Nigeria but you couldn't even conceal the deep-seated hatred you have for another African tribe yet you claimed that Nigeria's problems can be surmounted. With people like you around it is not surmountable.

As you can see. The fake love you have for Nigeria is just because of oil and gas "you're surviving on" like a leech. You see no future without it because you brought nothing to the union. No one is cursing you but the curse was imposed on Africans by the whiteman.

The question is why can't Africans reject this curse that put Igbo and people like you in the same country?

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Re: Why Can't Today's African Reject The Outcome Of The Berlin Conference? by Perfectbeing(m): 9:33am On Oct 28, 2022
Uchek:
But you had the chance to solve the wicked consequence of theBerlin Conference in 1967 when Igbo seceeded from Nigeria. Sadly, your Yoruba kinsmen fought against that chance.


First the Igbos, through Azikiwe stopped Awolowo peaceful way of secession, when he wanted included in the constitution, a secession clause. That way any region that wanted out of Nigeria could do so peacefully and constitutionally.. But Azikiwe, in his short sighted greed of ruling over all of Nigeria frustrated Awolowo and made it treason to secede.

2ndly, the Igbos, Ironsi and Ojukwu, were the first to bring back a region who tried the secede. Adaka Boro broke away the Niger Delta Republic from Nigeria and formed a country. Then Ironsi ordered Ojukwu to bring back the ND forcefully back to Nigeria.
Adaka was caught, stripped naked and sentenced to death for treason..

You Igbos made the bed. So you must lie on it.

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Re: Why Can't Today's African Reject The Outcome Of The Berlin Conference? by ednut1(m): 9:39am On Oct 28, 2022
Gerrard59:


You sef. Even with Canadian citizenship, you dey wish the western world bad thing. grin But they currently use immigration to counter the birth decline, and with China and Russia also having birth declines, maybe na Indians and Arabs go take-over. If so, let the west continue to dominate.
reality no be about wishing bad. For how long will immigration save them

Re: Why Can't Today's African Reject The Outcome Of The Berlin Conference? by ScamHunter: 10:12am On Oct 29, 2022
owobokiri:
Because the colonialist empires made sure to hand over power to those African groups that were willing to do their biddings post independence. Don't forget that all these African countries were coupled together by the colonialists, . So the former colonial powers know all the demographic realities and flashpoints in these areas. In other to maintain their legacies post independence, the retiring colonial powers identified willing serfs within these emerging "independent" enclaves and used all means available to empower them.

These "black representatives" are the most vicious proponents of the status quo within the continent since their political relevance largely depends on their abilities to remain in the good books of their western overlords. Essentially, the real independence hasn't happened in Africa yet, because colonialism by proxy is still enforce. This is the same reason why the heinous tales of colonialism and slavery are largely hidden from the young ones since the former colonialists working through their proxies, ensure that such tales won't make it into the school curriculums.

You understood Africa's predicament

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Re: Why Can't Today's African Reject The Outcome Of The Berlin Conference? by Uchek(m): 4:35am On Nov 12, 2022
What is your ethnic nationality? That will help me engage you better. You lied all through your response.

How could Zik stop Awolowo's idea of inclusion of secession clause into the constitution and made it treason to secede when Zik, Awo and Bello were under the rule of British colonialism and the British were in charge of the process of determining what was included and excluded in the constitution?

Can you disallow what is not with your control? Where did Zik get the political power and authority to declare secession a TREASON?

Bring back a region who tries to secede? Please can you show me Boro's map that shows the Eastern towns and cities that constituted his Niger Delta's Republic? Boro's so-called secession was at best a protest that should not be referred to as secession.


Perfectbeing:
First the Igbos, through Azikiwe stopped Awolowo peaceful way of secession, when he wanted included in the constitution, a secession clause. That way any region that wanted out of Nigeria could do so peacefully and constitutionally.. But Azikiwe, in his short sighted greed of ruling over all of Nigeria frustrated Awolowo and made it treason to secede.

2ndly, the Igbos, Ironsi and Ojukwu, were the first to bring back a region who tried the secede. Adaka Boro broke away the Niger Delta Republic from Nigeria and formed a country. Then Ironsi ordered Ojukwu to bring back the ND forcefully back to Nigeria.
Adaka was caught, stripped naked and sentenced to death for treason..

You Igbos made the bed. So you must lie on it.

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