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Re: Aloy Chife Asks CBN To Abolish Official FOREX Market, Allow Naira Float by dododawa1: 8:05am On Nov 04, 2022
EMEFELE ( IGBO CBN governor) and BUHARI ( FULANI president) sabotaging NIGERIA,but d IDIOTs are blaming TINUBU

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Re: Aloy Chife Asks CBN To Abolish Official FOREX Market, Allow Naira Float by VULCAN(m): 8:07am On Nov 04, 2022
So when you float the Naira it will magically gain value and the dollar will become 150 again, all this without any new exports.

Joke

Pls ask this so called Dr whether there was no parallel market when dollar was 150?

When you float the Naira it will keep falling and a dollar will quickly become N3000.

Will it get to N3000 if they refuse to float?

The answer is yes because of the massive looting and incompetent govt.

But it will get there much slower.

In 7 and a half yrs, Buhari has not been able to create A SINGLE policy that would encourage business people to massively go into export.

That is just one of his hundreds of areas of failure

As for this so called Dr, let's be reminded that a Dr that misdiagnoses a sickness may kill the patient with his prescription.

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Re: Aloy Chife Asks CBN To Abolish Official FOREX Market, Allow Naira Float by hedonido: 8:09am On Nov 04, 2022
Emeskhalifa:
THE CURRENCY SITUATION: A MUST READ

1). So many Nigerians have stacked Naira notes in their closets and are cut up with this policy of the CBN. There is a rush by ignorant Nigerians to convert their Naira to Dollars. Naira is at all time low against dollar and it's going to go even lower. For example a man converts #10m to 12,500 USD at the current exchange rate. It's easier to keep it with himself than to deposit in a Domiciliary account with a DMB because of the stringent policies around FX cash deposits. He hopes that by December when the new Nigeria is floated, he'd have his FX converted back to Naira from the Aboki guys he bought his USD from.

2)The Aboki man who sold FX to his customers at exorbitant rate excitedly goes to the DMB to deposit the millions of Naira he got the the FX swap he did. He knows he is getting richer in geometric proportion by this new policy by the CBN. He awaits the printing of the new Naira notes so as to reconvert the Naira he has in his account today USD and continue making more money.

3). All customers who deposited their Naira notes, those depositing and those who would be depositing are eagerly waiting for December 15. The DMBs are also waiting for the said date. Meanwhile there is a cashless policy waiting to hit all Nigerians by January 2023. On December 15th, customers would rush to the DMBs for new notes so as to withdraw as much as they can before January when the cashless policy would be effected 100%. The DMBS would rush to the central bank branches to withdraw new notes. The branches would go to the H/O for new notes. H/O would release just a little to branches based on cash management policies. CBN Branches would release in trinkets to DMB branches and tell them to go manage their customers. DMBs would revert back to their customers based on the low available new cash notes. There would be slight panicking as customers who deposited old naira notes cannot retrieve same notes from the DMBs anymore because of unavailability. Remember, digital money and paper money is still money and so customers would be advised to use electronic channels to make payments.

4) The Aboki guy who kept millions of Naira is also a victim of the shortage of new notes and so he cannot buy back FX from his customers who were hoping to return the ones the got earlier ones the new notes are in place. Aboki begins to panick as well. Those who have FX and need naira notes begin to sell their FX to people who have naira whether old or new just to cash in before January. In doing so, USD begins to crash as rapidly as it rose. Much of the FX becomes deposited in DMBs as carrying the raw cash isn't useful anymore. The CBN is happy because there is more FX in the banking system to give for Forms A, M and Q. Naira begins to gain rapidly against the dollar.

5). In January, cashless policy takes effect. So even if the CBN makes available more new notes to DMBs, customers cannot withdraw above the stipulated across-the-counter limit to avoid heavy charges. Customers are forced to use electronic payments, FX policy and transfer and withdrawal is so stiff that swapping FX and Naira is no more a gain. USD parallel and black market prices crash all the way down to CBN rate. Inflation based on importation of goods and services is checked as Naira becomes strong against dollar. People who have physical dollars would lose. There would be limited access to naira notes as electronic transfers become prevalent. Enaira purchases also become more as Nigerians look for most seamless methods to do payments. By June, whoever takes over power would have a soft landing as this policy by the CBN has controlled a whole lot of inflation, corruption and economic degradation.

6). If you have Naira notes stashed with you, return them back to the bank through your account. Don't try to play smart trying to beat the system, you may become the architect of your own loss. Your 12,500 USD may fall from #10,000,000 to #5,000,000 in June, 2023. Meanwhile if you put same #10,000,000 in Treasury Bills at the current 14.5%, you should be gaining about #725,000 at the same period.

Let's try and look at the bright side of things, Nigeria shall be great by God's grace.

You're living in lala land. Lol. Keep dreaming.

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Re: Aloy Chife Asks CBN To Abolish Official FOREX Market, Allow Naira Float by voltron14: 8:09am On Nov 04, 2022
Antoeni:
Emefele is very dull CBN Governor
He Will Not Understand What you mean

Alloy understands money market more than Emefiele?

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Re: Aloy Chife Asks CBN To Abolish Official FOREX Market, Allow Naira Float by FORHII: 8:11am On Nov 04, 2022
Emeskhalifa:
THE CURRENCY SITUATION: A MUST READ

1). So many Nigerians have stacked Naira notes in their closets and are cut up with this policy of the CBN. There is a rush by ignorant Nigerians to convert their Naira to Dollars. Naira is at all time low against dollar and it's going to go even lower. For example a man converts #10m to 12,500 USD at the current exchange rate. It's easier to keep it with himself than to deposit in a Domiciliary account with a DMB because of the stringent policies around FX cash deposits. He hopes that by December when the new Nigeria is floated, he'd have his FX converted back to Naira from the Aboki guys he bought his USD from.

2)The Aboki man who sold FX to his customers at exorbitant rate excitedly goes to the DMB to deposit the millions of Naira he got the the FX swap he did. He knows he is getting richer in geometric proportion by this new policy by the CBN. He awaits the printing of the new Naira notes so as to reconvert the Naira he has in his account today USD and continue making more money.

3). All customers who deposited their Naira notes, those depositing and those who would be depositing are eagerly waiting for December 15. The DMBs are also waiting for the said date. Meanwhile there is a cashless policy waiting to hit all Nigerians by January 2023. On December 15th, customers would rush to the DMBs for new notes so as to withdraw as much as they can before January when the cashless policy would be effected 100%. The DMBS would rush to the central bank branches to withdraw new notes. The branches would go to the H/O for new notes. H/O would release just a little to branches based on cash management policies. CBN Branches would release in trinkets to DMB branches and tell them to go manage their customers. DMBs would revert back to their customers based on the low available new cash notes. There would be slight panicking as customers who deposited old naira notes cannot retrieve same notes from the DMBs anymore because of unavailability. Remember, digital money and paper money is still money and so customers would be advised to use electronic channels to make payments.

4) The Aboki guy who kept millions of Naira is also a victim of the shortage of new notes and so he cannot buy back FX from his customers who were hoping to return the ones the got earlier ones the new notes are in place. Aboki begins to panick as well. Those who have FX and need naira notes begin to sell their FX to people who have naira whether old or new just to cash in before January. In doing so, USD begins to crash as rapidly as it rose. Much of the FX becomes deposited in DMBs as carrying the raw cash isn't useful anymore. The CBN is happy because there is more FX in the banking system to give for Forms A, M and Q. Naira begins to gain rapidly against the dollar.

5). In January, cashless policy takes effect. So even if the CBN makes available more new notes to DMBs, customers cannot withdraw above the stipulated across-the-counter limit to avoid heavy charges. Customers are forced to use electronic payments, FX policy and transfer and withdrawal is so stiff that swapping FX and Naira is no more a gain. USD parallel and black market prices crash all the way down to CBN rate. Inflation based on importation of goods and services is checked as Naira becomes strong against dollar. People who have physical dollars would lose. There would be limited access to naira notes as electronic transfers become prevalent. Enaira purchases also become more as Nigerians look for most seamless methods to do payments. By June, whoever takes over power would have a soft landing as this policy by the CBN has controlled a whole lot of inflation, corruption and economic degradation.

6). If you have Naira notes stashed with you, return them back to the bank through your account. Don't try to play smart trying to beat the system, you may become the architect of your own loss. Your 12,500 USD may fall from #10,000,000 to #5,000,000 in June, 2023. Meanwhile if you put same #10,000,000 in Treasury Bills at the current 14.5%, you should be gaining about #725,000 at the same period.

Let's try and look at the bright side of things, Nigeria shall be great by God's grace.
You have written well my brother....but there's more to national economic than what you've written.

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Re: Aloy Chife Asks CBN To Abolish Official FOREX Market, Allow Naira Float by Xbobtage: 8:12am On Nov 04, 2022
Emeskhalifa:
THE CURRENCY SITUATION: A MUST READ

1). So many Nigerians have stacked Naira notes in their closets and are cut up with this policy of the CBN. There is a rush by ignorant Nigerians to convert their Naira to Dollars. Naira is at all time low against dollar and it's going to go even lower. For example a man converts #10m to 12,500 USD at the current exchange rate. It's easier to keep it with himself than to deposit in a Domiciliary account with a DMB because of the stringent policies around FX cash deposits. He hopes that by December when the new Nigeria is floated, he'd have his FX converted back to Naira from the Aboki guys he bought his USD from.

2)The Aboki man who sold FX to his customers at exorbitant rate excitedly goes to the DMB to deposit the millions of Naira he got the the FX swap he did. He knows he is getting richer in geometric proportion by this new policy by the CBN. He awaits the printing of the new Naira notes so as to reconvert the Naira he has in his account today USD and continue making more money.

3). All customers who deposited their Naira notes, those depositing and those who would be depositing are eagerly waiting for December 15. The DMBs are also waiting for the said date. Meanwhile there is a cashless policy waiting to hit all Nigerians by January 2023. On December 15th, customers would rush to the DMBs for new notes so as to withdraw as much as they can before January when the cashless policy would be effected 100%. The DMBS would rush to the central bank branches to withdraw new notes. The branches would go to the H/O for new notes. H/O would release just a little to branches based on cash management policies. CBN Branches would release in trinkets to DMB branches and tell them to go manage their customers. DMBs would revert back to their customers based on the low available new cash notes. There would be slight panicking as customers who deposited old naira notes cannot retrieve same notes from the DMBs anymore because of unavailability. Remember, digital money and paper money is still money and so customers would be advised to use electronic channels to make payments.

4) The Aboki guy who kept millions of Naira is also a victim of the shortage of new notes and so he cannot buy back FX from his customers who were hoping to return the ones the got earlier ones the new notes are in place. Aboki begins to panick as well. Those who have FX and need naira notes begin to sell their FX to people who have naira whether old or new just to cash in before January. In doing so, USD begins to crash as rapidly as it rose. Much of the FX becomes deposited in DMBs as carrying the raw cash isn't useful anymore. The CBN is happy because there is more FX in the banking system to give for Forms A, M and Q. Naira begins to gain rapidly against the dollar.

5). In January, cashless policy takes effect. So even if the CBN makes available more new notes to DMBs, customers cannot withdraw above the stipulated across-the-counter limit to avoid heavy charges. Customers are forced to use electronic payments, FX policy and transfer and withdrawal is so stiff that swapping FX and Naira is no more a gain. USD parallel and black market prices crash all the way down to CBN rate. Inflation based on importation of goods and services is checked as Naira becomes strong against dollar. People who have physical dollars would lose. There would be limited access to naira notes as electronic transfers become prevalent. Enaira purchases also become more as Nigerians look for most seamless methods to do payments. By June, whoever takes over power would have a soft landing as this policy by the CBN has controlled a whole lot of inflation, corruption and economic degradation.

6). If you have Naira notes stashed with you, return them back to the bank through your account. Don't try to play smart trying to beat the system, you may become the architect of your own loss. Your 12,500 USD may fall from #10,000,000 to #5,000,000 in June, 2023. Meanwhile if you put same #10,000,000 in Treasury Bills at the current 14.5%, you should be gaining about #725,000 at the same period.

Let's try and look at the bright side of things, Nigeria shall be great by God's grace.


You are only deceiving yourself. The nigerian naira is on a downtrend because people are afraid of the direction the country is going and are pulling out and our government is broke, they dont even have money to pay foreign airlines their own money in USD.

Zimbabwe, Venezuela and Lebanon loading. I have been warning nigerians about this for the past 18months. read my comments.

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Re: Aloy Chife Asks CBN To Abolish Official FOREX Market, Allow Naira Float by RepoMan007: 8:12am On Nov 04, 2022
Why should that be?

I am now in support of multiple forex rate.
Re: Aloy Chife Asks CBN To Abolish Official FOREX Market, Allow Naira Float by sharone21(f): 8:13am On Nov 04, 2022
ppogba:


Emefiele banned them when he came initially but he reversed the decision later perhaps due to pressure.

Truth is the BDC guys are more powerful than you and I can envisage and Imagine.

BDC guys should be regulated eg if official rate is N300/ $1.... BDC can be N350/$1... Greed will then be discouraged. Also, Emefiele should make dollars readily available
Re: Aloy Chife Asks CBN To Abolish Official FOREX Market, Allow Naira Float by MT: 8:15am On Nov 04, 2022
Emeskhalifa:
THE CURRENCY SITUATION: A MUST READ

1). So many Nigerians have stacked Naira notes in their closets and are cut up with this policy of the CBN. There is a rush by ignorant Nigerians to convert their Naira to Dollars. Naira is at all time low against dollar and it's going to go even lower. For example a man converts #10m to 12,500 USD at the current exchange rate. It's easier to keep it with himself than to deposit in a Domiciliary account with a DMB because of the stringent policies around FX cash deposits. He hopes that by December when the new Nigeria is floated, he'd have his FX converted back to Naira from the Aboki guys he bought his USD from.

2)The Aboki man who sold FX to his customers at exorbitant rate excitedly goes to the DMB to deposit the millions of Naira he got the the FX swap he did. He knows he is getting richer in geometric proportion by this new policy by the CBN. He awaits the printing of the new Naira notes so as to reconvert the Naira he has in his account today USD and continue making more money.

3). All customers who deposited their Naira notes, those depositing and those who would be depositing are eagerly waiting for December 15. The DMBs are also waiting for the said date. Meanwhile there is a cashless policy waiting to hit all Nigerians by January 2023. On December 15th, customers would rush to the DMBs for new notes so as to withdraw as much as they can before January when the cashless policy would be effected 100%. The DMBS would rush to the central bank branches to withdraw new notes. The branches would go to the H/O for new notes. H/O would release just a little to branches based on cash management policies. CBN Branches would release in trinkets to DMB branches and tell them to go manage their customers. DMBs would revert back to their customers based on the low available new cash notes. There would be slight panicking as customers who deposited old naira notes cannot retrieve same notes from the DMBs anymore because of unavailability. Remember, digital money and paper money is still money and so customers would be advised to use electronic channels to make payments.

4) The Aboki guy who kept millions of Naira is also a victim of the shortage of new notes and so he cannot buy back FX from his customers who were hoping to return the ones the got earlier ones the new notes are in place. Aboki begins to panick as well. Those who have FX and need naira notes begin to sell their FX to people who have naira whether old or new just to cash in before January. In doing so, USD begins to crash as rapidly as it rose. Much of the FX becomes deposited in DMBs as carrying the raw cash isn't useful anymore. The CBN is happy because there is more FX in the banking system to give for Forms A, M and Q. Naira begins to gain rapidly against the dollar.

5). In January, cashless policy takes effect. So even if the CBN makes available more new notes to DMBs, customers cannot withdraw above the stipulated across-the-counter limit to avoid heavy charges. Customers are forced to use electronic payments, FX policy and transfer and withdrawal is so stiff that swapping FX and Naira is no more a gain. USD parallel and black market prices crash all the way down to CBN rate. Inflation based on importation of goods and services is checked as Naira becomes strong against dollar. People who have physical dollars would lose. There would be limited access to naira notes as electronic transfers become prevalent. Enaira purchases also become more as Nigerians look for most seamless methods to do payments. By June, whoever takes over power would have a soft landing as this policy by the CBN has controlled a whole lot of inflation, corruption and economic degradation.

6). If you have Naira notes stashed with you, return them back to the bank through your account. Don't try to play smart trying to beat the system, you may become the architect of your own loss. Your 12,500 USD may fall from #10,000,000 to #5,000,000 in June, 2023. Meanwhile if you put same #10,000,000 in Treasury Bills at the current 14.5%, you should be gaining about #725,000 at the same period.

Let's try and look at the bright side of things, Nigeria shall be great by God's grace.

Quite insightful but I have a question. Let's say I convert my naira to dollars now at 750 naira to a dollar. And the naira continues its slide against the dollars to 800 naira. I have gained 50 naira on each dollar.

If I go back to Aboki to reconvert back my dollar to naira,you claimed that Aboki might not be able to withdraw enough naira due to scarcity of naira as regulated by the CBN after the new naira design is rolled out. However, Aboki can still pay me using the electronic money and I will be fine with it. I don't think Aboki will panick and business continues as usual.

What do you think about this illustration?

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Re: Aloy Chife Asks CBN To Abolish Official FOREX Market, Allow Naira Float by FORHII: 8:16am On Nov 04, 2022
Xbobtage:



You are only deceiving yourself. The nigerian naira is on a downtrend because people are afraid of the direction the country is going and are pulling out and our government is broke, they dont even have money to pay foreign airlines their own money in USD.

Zimbabwe, Venezuela and Lebanon loading. I have been warning nigerians about this for the past 18months.
The guy thought aboki are the ones that determines the exchange rate not knowing that his country is broke! Nigeria is broke and honestly I see dollars going to 1,500 next year. Don't forget that foreign students would need dollars January oh. My friends couldn't travel weeks ago due to unavailability of dollars even at banks.

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Re: Aloy Chife Asks CBN To Abolish Official FOREX Market, Allow Naira Float by Nobody: 8:16am On Nov 04, 2022
Mynd44:


https://twitter.com/ChifeDr/status/1588140820061888514?t=n5ZdmYQz1-4nzxjeru0VjA&s=19
Who's this man that is out of his senses? Isn't it the same floating that killed the naira to the level it's today before CBN pegged it.

Sometimes, people forget to know that the BDCs are greedy.

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Re: Aloy Chife Asks CBN To Abolish Official FOREX Market, Allow Naira Float by Kaiser20: 8:16am On Nov 04, 2022
(#930- $1 ) One campaign promise of irresponsible Apc government since 2015.
Another useless APC manifesto to continue.... Never again!
Re: Aloy Chife Asks CBN To Abolish Official FOREX Market, Allow Naira Float by SavageResponse(m): 8:18am On Nov 04, 2022
Emeskhalifa:
THE CURRENCY SITUATION: A MUST READ

1). So many Nigerians have stacked Naira notes in their closets and are cut up with this policy of the CBN. There is a rush by ignorant Nigerians to convert their Naira to Dollars. Naira is at all time low against dollar and it's going to go even lower. For example a man converts #10m to 12,500 USD at the current exchange rate. It's easier to keep it with himself than to deposit in a Domiciliary account with a DMB because of the stringent policies around FX cash deposits. He hopes that by December when the new Nigeria is floated, he'd have his FX converted back to Naira from the Aboki guys he bought his USD from.

2)The Aboki man who sold FX to his customers at exorbitant rate excitedly goes to the DMB to deposit the millions of Naira he got the the FX swap he did. He knows he is getting richer in geometric proportion by this new policy by the CBN. He awaits the printing of the new Naira notes so as to reconvert the Naira he has in his account today USD and continue making more money.

3). All customers who deposited their Naira notes, those depositing and those who would be depositing are eagerly waiting for December 15. The DMBs are also waiting for the said date. Meanwhile there is a cashless policy waiting to hit all Nigerians by January 2023. On December 15th, customers would rush to the DMBs for new notes so as to withdraw as much as they can before January when the cashless policy would be effected 100%. The DMBS would rush to the central bank branches to withdraw new notes. The branches would go to the H/O for new notes. H/O would release just a little to branches based on cash management policies. CBN Branches would release in trinkets to DMB branches and tell them to go manage their customers. DMBs would revert back to their customers based on the low available new cash notes. There would be slight panicking as customers who deposited old naira notes cannot retrieve same notes from the DMBs anymore because of unavailability. Remember, digital money and paper money is still money and so customers would be advised to use electronic channels to make payments.

4) The Aboki guy who kept millions of Naira is also a victim of the shortage of new notes and so he cannot buy back FX from his customers who were hoping to return the ones the got earlier ones the new notes are in place. Aboki begins to panick as well. Those who have FX and need naira notes begin to sell their FX to people who have naira whether old or new just to cash in before January. In doing so, USD begins to crash as rapidly as it rose. Much of the FX becomes deposited in DMBs as carrying the raw cash isn't useful anymore. The CBN is happy because there is more FX in the banking system to give for Forms A, M and Q. Naira begins to gain rapidly against the dollar.

5). In January, cashless policy takes effect. So even if the CBN makes available more new notes to DMBs, customers cannot withdraw above the stipulated across-the-counter limit to avoid heavy charges. Customers are forced to use electronic payments, FX policy and transfer and withdrawal is so stiff that swapping FX and Naira is no more a gain. USD parallel and black market prices crash all the way down to CBN rate. Inflation based on importation of goods and services is checked as Naira becomes strong against dollar. People who have physical dollars would lose. There would be limited access to naira notes as electronic transfers become prevalent. Enaira purchases also become more as Nigerians look for most seamless methods to do payments. By June, whoever takes over power would have a soft landing as this policy by the CBN has controlled a whole lot of inflation, corruption and economic degradation.

6). If you have Naira notes stashed with you, return them back to the bank through your account. Don't try to play smart trying to beat the system, you may become the architect of your own loss. Your 12,500 USD may fall from #10,000,000 to #5,000,000 in June, 2023. Meanwhile if you put same #10,000,000 in Treasury Bills at the current 14.5%, you should be gaining about #725,000 at the same period.

Let's try and look at the bright side of things, Nigeria shall be great by God's grace.

This is text book theory and it does not work in Nigeria!

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Re: Aloy Chife Asks CBN To Abolish Official FOREX Market, Allow Naira Float by Xbobtage: 8:18am On Nov 04, 2022
maxist2020:
Instead of him to ask federal government to close black market he is there talking nonsense.
Nigeria if am not mistaken is one of few countries that operate parallel financial market where the unofficial is in charge of price control.
Imagine that the Aboki is the one that determines the price of how much they want to buy and sell, the other day I went wuse zone 4 to change Euro the Aboki I contacted told that the price is #625 only for me to get there and he said that Price has crashed to #610 that if am ready he will pay but I refused and I started going round and in that the same market I met another Aboki that paid 6#30
for the same Euro in the same market.
If black market is scraped it gives the CBN the power to control the price and again any politician caught sharing foreign currency should be jailed.
If more all the foreign currency in black market is injected back into the CBN and was are able to raise our export to generate more Dollars we won't have issues.

They have robbed you, the Euro is almost equivalent to the dollar. You should change your euro to dollars first and then dollars to naira. You should have collected 840 naira for your euro.

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Re: Aloy Chife Asks CBN To Abolish Official FOREX Market, Allow Naira Float by RepoMan007: 8:19am On Nov 04, 2022
Powersurge:
As long as there is arbitrage opportunity, Naira will continue to slide down the bottomless pit.

The problem is generated by CBN and banks. They give dollars to ex CBN officials, politicians, "big men" with strong connects at the official rate, even lesser sometimes. These folks float the money in at the parallel market with their foot soldiers.

Banks will hoard dollars and sell to people that would float them at the parallel market.

Buhari ordered CBN to give dollars to people going to Hajj at abysmal rate. When you toy with something as sensitive as the economy, you get burnt.

Double standard was already a problem for Nigeria and allowing religious exercise that cannot strengthen the Naira to take priority over businesses was very wrong.
Re: Aloy Chife Asks CBN To Abolish Official FOREX Market, Allow Naira Float by Bmaster(m): 8:19am On Nov 04, 2022
and one stup!d and Id!otic urchin will say Tinubu is not among the government of the day,he is not among the economic team blah blah blah, forgetting his senses at dustbins while trying to defend his agbado master.

Once you're amongst APC,
U are null and void!
Re: Aloy Chife Asks CBN To Abolish Official FOREX Market, Allow Naira Float by tnerro1(m): 8:22am On Nov 04, 2022
Why does CBN need to give licenses to someone to operate BDCs? If you need legitimate dollars, go to the banks with ur documentation and collect the dollars you need. ( no cap on the amount of dollars that can be collected as long as ur documents are legit) By having another market for dollars, that’s when the fraud starts

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Re: Aloy Chife Asks CBN To Abolish Official FOREX Market, Allow Naira Float by Backpedal: 8:22am On Nov 04, 2022
okeysoninv:
they should abolish official and approve black market rate so that naira will exchange to #3000. illiterate everywhere. even USA and China doesn't float their currency. no way in the world allowed black market to determine the trajectory of it's currency except in Nigeria. rather kill the spectators and hoarders that buys up dollars available. CBN can regulate the bank but can't monitor aboki BDC. it's a shame of the country
Did you say the US does not float it's currency ?

You are not knowledgeable about this subject matter
Just leave it
Your currency CANNOT be a convertible currency without it being ON FULL FLOAT

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Re: Aloy Chife Asks CBN To Abolish Official FOREX Market, Allow Naira Float by SavageResponse(m): 8:22am On Nov 04, 2022
sharone21:


BDC guys should be regulated eg if official rate is N300/ $1.... BDC can be N350/$1... Greed will then be discouraged. Also, Emefiele should make dollars readily available

CBN does not have enough dollars, it's as simple as that!

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Re: Aloy Chife Asks CBN To Abolish Official FOREX Market, Allow Naira Float by owagbeba: 8:23am On Nov 04, 2022
Femabol01:
Your analysis is only feasible on paper. You are so sure of your theoretical analysis. I don't think the CBN Governor can be as sure as you are as regards monetary policies.��

The key part the analyst failed to comprehend is that the man who changed and held USD has retained value and will comfortably exchange his USD holding for naira when stability returns in January. Regardless of the cashless policy in January, he can exchange for Naira in parallel market and get credited in his account via bank transfers. Aboki FX can operate via bank transfer

Key facts:
There isn’t enough dollars earnings by CBN. So the effect of this shortage are Airlines like emirates threatening to quit Nigeria due backlog of FX remittance

DMBs don’t have enough FX holding to satisfy demand via FOrm Q, Form A. so it’s natural the value of USD will rise with many Naira chasing Dollar

Falling foreign reserve.

Currency color change By December 15.. Stashed/stolen funds that can’t be deposited in DMB is chasing limited USD

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Re: Aloy Chife Asks CBN To Abolish Official FOREX Market, Allow Naira Float by pinkasso: 8:24am On Nov 04, 2022
Allow to float when we are in this economical mess...no country in the world can risk that with these economic reality., This advice will even cause further damage.
Re: Aloy Chife Asks CBN To Abolish Official FOREX Market, Allow Naira Float by grandstar(m): 8:27am On Nov 04, 2022
olusma23:
Its a shame on us a country.... Even all the media news outlets prefer to tell us the exchange rate of dollars in black market rather than the official rate.

Buying and hoarding dollars currency is now a business for all this Abokis....

Bank will never give u dollars, they will rather wait for their aboki customer and give them at their own profits...

CBN governor is the most useless man

The Abokia are not at fault. No Economists blames the Abokis. This is a clear case of market failure.

Buhari fixes the exchange rate and repeatedly said he does not believe in devaluation. This is the crux of the matter.

Buhari believes that it is cruel for Economists to allow the currency depreciate or devalue it. He feels they fix it.

This is hogwash. First he has no to peg the exchange rate. This is the duty of the CBN. It has autonomy. Emefiele refusal to tell off the president is the cause of this disaster.

Economists are not the ultimate determinants of the exchange rate. It is the market-forces of demand and supply. If the price of crude oil falls by 50% which accounts for at least 75% of dollar inflows, Nigerians simply have to pay more for the greenback. This isn't rocket science. Economist simply work with the fundamentals, no matter how benign or malign, and manage it.

However, Buhari says no. By fire by force, it must stay at that price. His stiff-neck position is why things are so bad. Lamido Sanusii said the differential between the official and parallel market rate must not be more than 3%. Presently, its going close to 90%!

All the 3 leading presidential aspirants have all said they will make the Naira flexible again.

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Re: Aloy Chife Asks CBN To Abolish Official FOREX Market, Allow Naira Float by Acidosis(m): 8:27am On Nov 04, 2022
CBN is BDC and BDC is CBN. know this and know peace o.

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Re: Aloy Chife Asks CBN To Abolish Official FOREX Market, Allow Naira Float by ogmask: 8:29am On Nov 04, 2022
Emeskhalifa:
THE CURRENCY SITUATION: A MUST READ

1). So many Nigerians have stacked Naira notes in their closets and are cut up with this policy of the CBN. There is a rush by ignorant Nigerians to convert their Naira to Dollars. Naira is at all time low against dollar and it's going to go even lower. For example a man converts #10m to 12,500 USD at the current exchange rate. It's easier to keep it with himself than to deposit in a Domiciliary account with a DMB because of the stringent policies around FX cash deposits. He hopes that by December when the new Nigeria is floated, he'd have his FX converted back to Naira from the Aboki guys he bought his USD from.

2)The Aboki man who sold FX to his customers at exorbitant rate excitedly goes to the DMB to deposit the millions of Naira he got the the FX swap he did. He knows he is getting richer in geometric proportion by this new policy by the CBN. He awaits the printing of the new Naira notes so as to reconvert the Naira he has in his account today USD and continue making more money.

3). All customers who deposited their Naira notes, those depositing and those who would be depositing are eagerly waiting for December 15. The DMBs are also waiting for the said date. Meanwhile there is a cashless policy waiting to hit all Nigerians by January 2023. On December 15th, customers would rush to the DMBs for new notes so as to withdraw as much as they can before January when the cashless policy would be effected 100%. The DMBS would rush to the central bank branches to withdraw new notes. The branches would go to the H/O for new notes. H/O would release just a little to branches based on cash management policies. CBN Branches would release in trinkets to DMB branches and tell them to go manage their customers. DMBs would revert back to their customers based on the low available new cash notes. There would be slight panicking as customers who deposited old naira notes cannot retrieve same notes from the DMBs anymore because of unavailability. Remember, digital money and paper money is still money and so customers would be advised to use electronic channels to make payments.

4) The Aboki guy who kept millions of Naira is also a victim of the shortage of new notes and so he cannot buy back FX from his customers who were hoping to return the ones the got earlier ones the new notes are in place. Aboki begins to panick as well. Those who have FX and need naira notes begin to sell their FX to people who have naira whether old or new just to cash in before January. In doing so, USD begins to crash as rapidly as it rose. Much of the FX becomes deposited in DMBs as carrying the raw cash isn't useful anymore. The CBN is happy because there is more FX in the banking system to give for Forms A, M and Q. Naira begins to gain rapidly against the dollar.

5). In January, cashless policy takes effect. So even if the CBN makes available more new notes to DMBs, customers cannot withdraw above the stipulated across-the-counter limit to avoid heavy charges. Customers are forced to use electronic payments, FX policy and transfer and withdrawal is so stiff that swapping FX and Naira is no more a gain. USD parallel and black market prices crash all the way down to CBN rate. Inflation based on importation of goods and services is checked as Naira becomes strong against dollar. People who have physical dollars would lose. There would be limited access to naira notes as electronic transfers become prevalent. Enaira purchases also become more as Nigerians look for most seamless methods to do payments. By June, whoever takes over power would have a soft landing as this policy by the CBN has controlled a whole lot of inflation, corruption and economic degradation.

6). If you have Naira notes stashed with you, return them back to the bank through your account. Don't try to play smart trying to beat the system, you may become the architect of your own loss. Your 12,500 USD may fall from #10,000,000 to #5,000,000 in June, 2023. Meanwhile if you put same #10,000,000 in Treasury Bills at the current 14.5%, you should be gaining about #725,000 at the same period.

Let's try and look at the bright side of things, Nigeria shall be great by God's grace.

Thanks for this brother.
You know with this country reality is far from theory. I just hope we get it right with this policy. I am a car dealer and I know what I pass thru to buy, ship and clear my cars at the wharf. Hopefully, I should be able to access Fx more easily for my biz when the new policy sits in.
Re: Aloy Chife Asks CBN To Abolish Official FOREX Market, Allow Naira Float by MrPADDY(m): 8:30am On Nov 04, 2022
Which way, Nigeria?
Re: Aloy Chife Asks CBN To Abolish Official FOREX Market, Allow Naira Float by kcubani: 8:30am On Nov 04, 2022
Charismatic107:
Naira is now almost 1000 to 1$, I keep wondering what exactly APC want to campaign with or will they promise us 0.99naira to 1$. This is something they met at 250,come february 2023 all of them collect.

I am always surprised seeing crowd at their rally , are people MAD!

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Re: Aloy Chife Asks CBN To Abolish Official FOREX Market, Allow Naira Float by VeeVeeMyLuv(m): 8:31am On Nov 04, 2022
Emeskhalifa:
THE CURRENCY SITUATION: A MUST READ

1). So many Nigerians have stacked Naira notes in their closets and are cut up with this policy of the CBN. There is a rush by ignorant Nigerians to convert their Naira to Dollars. Naira is at all time low against dollar and it's going to go even lower. For example a man converts #10m to 12,500 USD at the current exchange rate. It's easier to keep it with himself than to deposit in a Domiciliary account with a DMB because of the stringent policies around FX cash deposits. He hopes that by December when the new Nigeria is floated, he'd have his FX converted back to Naira from the Aboki guys he bought his USD from.

2)The Aboki man who sold FX to his customers at exorbitant rate excitedly goes to the DMB to deposit the millions of Naira he got the the FX swap he did. He knows he is getting richer in geometric proportion by this new policy by the CBN. He awaits the printing of the new Naira notes so as to reconvert the Naira he has in his account today USD and continue making more money.

3). All customers who deposited their Naira notes, those depositing and those who would be depositing are eagerly waiting for December 15. The DMBs are also waiting for the said date. Meanwhile there is a cashless policy waiting to hit all Nigerians by January 2023. On December 15th, customers would rush to the DMBs for new notes so as to withdraw as much as they can before January when the cashless policy would be effected 100%. The DMBS would rush to the central bank branches to withdraw new notes. The branches would go to the H/O for new notes. H/O would release just a little to branches based on cash management policies. CBN Branches would release in trinkets to DMB branches and tell them to go manage their customers. DMBs would revert back to their customers based on the low available new cash notes. There would be slight panicking as customers who deposited old naira notes cannot retrieve same notes from the DMBs anymore because of unavailability. Remember, digital money and paper money is still money and so customers would be advised to use electronic channels to make payments.

4) The Aboki guy who kept millions of Naira is also a victim of the shortage of new notes and so he cannot buy back FX from his customers who were hoping to return the ones the got earlier ones the new notes are in place. Aboki begins to panick as well. Those who have FX and need naira notes begin to sell their FX to people who have naira whether old or new just to cash in before January. In doing so, USD begins to crash as rapidly as it rose. Much of the FX becomes deposited in DMBs as carrying the raw cash isn't useful anymore. The CBN is happy because there is more FX in the banking system to give for Forms A, M and Q. Naira begins to gain rapidly against the dollar.

5). In January, cashless policy takes effect. So even if the CBN makes available more new notes to DMBs, customers cannot withdraw above the stipulated across-the-counter limit to avoid heavy charges. Customers are forced to use electronic payments, FX policy and transfer and withdrawal is so stiff that swapping FX and Naira is no more a gain. USD parallel and black market prices crash all the way down to CBN rate. Inflation based on importation of goods and services is checked as Naira becomes strong against dollar. People who have physical dollars would lose. There would be limited access to naira notes as electronic transfers become prevalent. Enaira purchases also become more as Nigerians look for most seamless methods to do payments. By June, whoever takes over power would have a soft landing as this policy by the CBN has controlled a whole lot of inflation, corruption and economic degradation.

6). If you have Naira notes stashed with you, return them back to the bank through your account. Don't try to play smart trying to beat the system, you may become the architect of your own loss. Your 12,500 USD may fall from #10,000,000 to #5,000,000 in June, 2023. Meanwhile if you put same #10,000,000 in Treasury Bills at the current 14.5%, you should be gaining about #725,000 at the same period.

Let's try and look at the bright side of things, Nigeria shall be great by God's grace.

Oga Boss thanks for alerting the house

Let's watch and see
Re: Aloy Chife Asks CBN To Abolish Official FOREX Market, Allow Naira Float by Nsonaso(m): 8:32am On Nov 04, 2022
Mynd44:


https://twitter.com/ChifeDr/status/1588140820061888514?t=n5ZdmYQz1-4nzxjeru0VjA&s=19

Every go talk the one when go favor him.

Why didn't you say CBN should abolish individual holding foreign currency or selling it?
Re: Aloy Chife Asks CBN To Abolish Official FOREX Market, Allow Naira Float by Biafraaa: 8:34am On Nov 04, 2022
Emeskhalifa:
THE CURRENCY SITUATION: A MUST READ

1). So many Nigerians have stacked Naira notes in their closets and are cut up with this policy of the CBN. There is a rush by ignorant Nigerians to convert their Naira to Dollars. Naira is at all time low against dollar and it's going to go even lower. For example a man converts #10m to 12,500 USD at the current exchange rate. It's easier to keep it with himself than to deposit in a Domiciliary account with a DMB because of the stringent policies around FX cash deposits. He hopes that by December when the new Nigeria is floated, he'd have his FX converted back to Naira from the Aboki guys he bought his USD from.

2)The Aboki man who sold FX to his customers at exorbitant rate excitedly goes to the DMB to deposit the millions of Naira he got the the FX swap he did. He knows he is getting richer in geometric proportion by this new policy by the CBN. He awaits the printing of the new Naira notes so as to reconvert the Naira he has in his account today USD and continue making more money.

3). All customers who deposited their Naira notes, those depositing and those who would be depositing are eagerly waiting for December 15. The DMBs are also waiting for the said date. Meanwhile there is a cashless policy waiting to hit all Nigerians by January 2023. On December 15th, customers would rush to the DMBs for new notes so as to withdraw as much as they can before January when the cashless policy would be effected 100%. The DMBS would rush to the central bank branches to withdraw new notes. The branches would go to the H/O for new notes. H/O would release just a little to branches based on cash management policies. CBN Branches would release in trinkets to DMB branches and tell them to go manage their customers. DMBs would revert back to their customers based on the low available new cash notes. There would be slight panicking as customers who deposited old naira notes cannot retrieve same notes from the DMBs anymore because of unavailability. Remember, digital money and paper money is still money and so customers would be advised to use electronic channels to make payments.

4) The Aboki guy who kept millions of Naira is also a victim of the shortage of new notes and so he cannot buy back FX from his customers who were hoping to return the ones the got earlier ones the new notes are in place. Aboki begins to panick as well. Those who have FX and need naira notes begin to sell their FX to people who have naira whether old or new just to cash in before January. In doing so, USD begins to crash as rapidly as it rose. Much of the FX becomes deposited in DMBs as carrying the raw cash isn't useful anymore. The CBN is happy because there is more FX in the banking system to give for Forms A, M and Q. Naira begins to gain rapidly against the dollar.

5). In January, cashless policy takes effect. So even if the CBN makes available more new notes to DMBs, customers cannot withdraw above the stipulated across-the-counter limit to avoid heavy charges. Customers are forced to use electronic payments, FX policy and transfer and withdrawal is so stiff that swapping FX and Naira is no more a gain. USD parallel and black market prices crash all the way down to CBN rate. Inflation based on importation of goods and services is checked as Naira becomes strong against dollar. People who have physical dollars would lose. There would be limited access to naira notes as electronic transfers become prevalent. Enaira purchases also become more as Nigerians look for most seamless methods to do payments. By June, whoever takes over power would have a soft landing as this policy by the CBN has controlled a whole lot of inflation, corruption and economic degradation.

6). If you have Naira notes stashed with you, return them back to the bank through your account. Don't try to play smart trying to beat the system, you may become the architect of your own loss. Your 12,500 USD may fall from #10,000,000 to #5,000,000 in June, 2023. Meanwhile if you put same #10,000,000 in Treasury Bills at the current 14.5%, you should be gaining about #725,000 at the same period.

Let's try and look at the bright side of things, Nigeria shall be great by God's grace.

If only it goes the way you analyzed it. This APC led govt have no clue about what they are doing
Re: Aloy Chife Asks CBN To Abolish Official FOREX Market, Allow Naira Float by ppogba: 8:35am On Nov 04, 2022
sharone21:


BDC guys should be regulated eg if official rate is N300/ $1.... BDC can be N350/$1... Greed will then be discouraged. Also, Emefiele should make dollars readily available

BDCs should be regulated. I agree with that totally. NO where in the world will you see people at some odd corners of a street soliciting for buyers of foreign currencies.

Emefiele should make dollars available. How? Emefiele is not intentionally hoarding dollars. Truth is, you cannot give what you do not have. Nigeria is not earning enough dollars. Petro-dollar is about our only source. That may not even be a big problem. The bigger problem is that our need for dollars especially the UN-neccasary ones are way TOO MANY. For example, need to pay dollar denominated school fess in Nigeria, need to import irrelevant things as tooth picks, need to import all manner of "rechargeable" nonsense from China etc.
If we have other sources thru which we earn dollars, the problem will be less.

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Re: Aloy Chife Asks CBN To Abolish Official FOREX Market, Allow Naira Float by nerorex01: 8:35am On Nov 04, 2022
RayRay06677:
Nothing to say for now

Honestly, nothing to say !
Re: Aloy Chife Asks CBN To Abolish Official FOREX Market, Allow Naira Float by okeysoninv: 8:36am On Nov 04, 2022
Backpedal:

Did you say the US does not float it's currency ?

You are not knowledgeable about this subject matter
Just leave it
Your currency CANNOT be a convertible currency without it being ON FULL FLOAT
there is so no country without protectionism. USA protects their currency. china do, every country do.

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