Niklaus398:
He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation. For by him all things were created, both in the heavens and on Earth, visible and invisible, weather thrones or dominions or rulers or authority- all things have been created through him and for him. He is before all things and in him all things hold together. Colossians 1:15-17.


Happy Sunday Guys, please I'll like to understand this verse.
Is this verse saying Jesus is the creator or what?


Muslims can contribute too.

GardenOfGod:
He is the Creator

Christ Created and Sustains the World (Hebrews 1:1–2:8 )
Critical to the theology in Hebrews is that Christ created and sustains the world. He is the Son “through whom [God] also created the worlds” (Heb. 1:2). Therefore, Hebrews is a book about Christ, the creator, at work in his workplace, the creation. This may be surprising to some who are used to thinking of the Father alone as creator. But Hebrews is con­sistent with the rest of the New Testament (e.g., John 1:3; Col. 1:15–17) in naming Christ as the Father’s agent in creation.[1] Because Christ is fully God, “the reflection of God’s glory and the exact imprint of God’s very being” (Heb. 1:3), the writer of Hebrews can refer interchangeably to Christ or the Father as the Creator.

How then does Hebrews portray Christ at work in the creation? He is a builder, founding the earth and constructing the heavens. “In the beginning, Lord, you founded the earth, and the heavens are the work of your hands” (Heb. 1:10). Moreover, he sustains the present creation, bearing “all things by his powerful word” (Heb. 1:3). “All things,” of course, includes us as well: “For every house is built by someone, but the builder of all things is God . . . and we are his house if we hold firm” (Heb. 3:4, 6). All of creation is built by God through his Son. This strongly af­firms the creation as the primary place of God’s presence and salvation.

GardenOfGod:
He is the Creator

Christ Created and Sustains the World (Hebrews 1:1–2:8 )
Critical to the theology in Hebrews is that Christ created and sustains the world. He is the Son “through whom [God] also created the worlds” (Heb. 1:2). Therefore, Hebrews is a book about Christ, the creator, at work in his workplace, the creation. This may be surprising to some who are used to thinking of the Father alone as creator. But Hebrews is con­sistent with the rest of the New Testament (e.g., John 1:3; Col. 1:15–17) in naming Christ as the Father’s agent in creation.[1] Because Christ is fully God, “the reflection of God’s glory and the exact imprint of God’s very being” (Heb. 1:3), the writer of Hebrews can refer interchangeably to Christ or the Father as the Creator.

How then does Hebrews portray Christ at work in the creation? He is a builder, founding the earth and constructing the heavens. “In the beginning, Lord, you founded the earth, and the heavens are the work of your hands” (Heb. 1:10). Moreover, he sustains the present creation, bearing “all things by his powerful word” (Heb. 1:3). “All things,” of course, includes us as well: “For every house is built by someone, but the builder of all things is God . . . and we are his house if we hold firm” (Heb. 3:4, 6). All of creation is built by God through his Son. This strongly af­firms the creation as the primary place of God’s presence and salvation.

Niklaus398:
so in other words, Jesus is the world creator since he is the Word which God used to create the world. I get now.




A Muslim here, any objection to this?.

No , Jesus Christ is not the Creator.

2 Simple illustrations.
You used sand to sculpt a bust of Chinua Achebe.
Is the sand a Creator?

You used a bricklayer to build your house.
Do you say to your friends "I built my house"?
Oga, LEARN...

1 Corinthians 8:6, God his Father is the Creator.
Hebrews 1:2,God Created the universe THROUGH His Son.

Hebrews 1:10, the Lord there is God his Father.
Matthew 11:25, Jesus Christ agreed that Creator is God his Father.

Colossians 1:15 Jesus Christ is the first born Creature of his Father.

Niklaus398:
so in other words, Jesus is the world creator since he is the Word which God used to create the world. I get now.

Janosky:


No , Jesus Christ is not the Creator.

2 Simple illustrations.
You used sand to sculpt a bust of Chinua Achebe.
Is the sand a Creator?

You used a bricklayer to build your house.
Do you say to your friends "I built my house"?
Oga, LEARN...

1 Corinthians 8:6, God his Father is the Creator.
Hebrews 1:2,God Created the universe THROUGH His Son.

Hebrews 1:10, the Lord there is God his Father.
Matthew 11:25, Jesus Christ agreed that Creator is God his Father.

Colossians 1:15 Jesus Christ is the first born Creature of his Father.

Niklaus398:
He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation. For by him all things were created, both in the heavens and on Earth, visible and invisible, weather thrones or dominions or rulers or authority- all things have been created through him and for him. He is before all things and in him all things hold together. Colossians 1:15-17.


Happy Sunday Guys, please I'll like to understand this verse.
Is this verse saying Jesus is the creator or what?


Muslims can contribute too.

haekymbahd:
lol... Satan trying to give Jesus portion of what he created

Mathew 4
Then the devil took him up to a very high mountain and he showed him all the kingdoms of the world in their magnificence and he said to him, “All these I shall give to you if you will prostrate yourself and worship me.” At this, Jesus said to him, “Get away Satan! It is written: The Lord, your God, shall you worship and him alone shall you serve.” Then the devil left him, and behold angels came and ministered to him.

Dtruthspeaker:


Yes!

Then He has His Father, The One Who Spoke eg 'Let there be light"!

Janosky:

Matthew 11:25, Matthew 19:4-5, from the mouth of Jesus, his Father is the Creator.

1 Corinthians 8:6, from the mouth of the apostle converted by Jesus Christ.

Dtruthspeaker:


True, His Father Rules and Gives The Command of creating but The Lord is The One Commanded to do the creating.

As He told us, "He does His Father's Will (Command) John 5:19

So, no issue here!

Dtruthspeaker:


imagine!

That bastard is too evil. Imagine, a bastard trying to sell one of my flats in my block of flats to me!

O Jesus dey endure o. I for don kill Satan since.

Dtruthspeaker:


Understandable! A case of giving respect to Whom respect is owed.

Julius Berger must pay respect to govt who commanded it to build the Niger Bridges. But when we talk about the building of the Niger bridges, we all must talk about Julie Berg. Its as simple as that.

haekymbahd:
It is only because Satan knew Jesus wasn't creator. According to the bible it claim everything was created through Jesus...

haekymbahd:
It is only because Satan knew Jesus wasn't the creator. According to the bible it claim everything was created through the word (Jesus).

That means Jesus wasn't the creator but a medium for Creation. The creator is the one who created everything through the word.

So it is logical that Satan would want to give Jesus kingdom of the world since he was only a medium for creation and not the creator himself?

Bible logic.....

Janosky:

The Govt OWNS the Bridge, hence the Govt built it...

Dtruthspeaker:


We have already seen and experienced it that Satan would definitely sell you your flat in your block of flats if given a chance.

So you are talking rubbish.

Janosky:

Jesus, from Genesis to Revelation,is not the Creator.
His Superior, the Father is the Creator. He created Jesus his first born, Colossians 1:15, Genesis 49:3.

Shalom.

Niklaus398:
so in other words, Jesus is the world creator since he is the Word which God used to create the world. I get now.




A Muslim here, any objection to this?.