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See The Idol That The People Of Mecca Worshipped As Allah Before Muhammad Was Bo by IslamIsIdiotic: 3:27pm On Dec 07, 2022
This is from a film by Egyptian movie director Muhammed Khan which was made in the 1970s.

It shows how the people of Mecca used to refer to their idols as Allaah before the advent of islam and how they used to perform Hajj in honour of an idol called Hubal.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gK86kcq6l34

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Re: See The Idol That The People Of Mecca Worshipped As Allah Before Muhammad Was Bo by Truvelisback(m): 4:19pm On Dec 07, 2022
Re: See The Idol That The People Of Mecca Worshipped As Allah Before Muhammad Was Bo by AntiChristian: 6:36am On Dec 08, 2022
A film or storyline doesn't matter but our texts!

Allah was never represented by any idol whatsoever!

Allah says many times in the Qu'ran and Sunnah that He rose above His throne over the seven heavens!

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Re: See The Idol That The People Of Mecca Worshipped As Allah Before Muhammad Was Bo by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:08am On Dec 08, 2022
AntiChristian:
A film or storyline doesn't matter but our texts!

Allah was never represented by any idol whatsoever!

Allah says many times in the Qu'ran and Sunnah that He rose above His throne over the seven heavens!


You want us to believe what your book say is final not what some of your people who claims they're Muslims are doing but then you don't want to agree that only JWs are the true Christians based on what Jesus taught.

You and hypocrisy! cheesy

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Re: See The Idol That The People Of Mecca Worshipped As Allah Before Muhammad Was Bo by AntiChristian: 5:21pm On Dec 08, 2022
MaxInDHouse:


You want us to believe what your book say is final not what some of your people who claims they're Muslims are doing but then you don't want to agree that only JWs are the true Christians based on what Jesus taught.

You and hypocrisy! cheesy

Abeg claim whatever you want to claim. Each Christian denomination is right in its opinion as all of them would bring biblical proves for their existence!

After all, Jesus didn't create Christianity nor any Christian denomination!

Na humans create them after him.

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Re: See The Idol That The People Of Mecca Worshipped As Allah Before Muhammad Was Bo by advocatejare(m): 5:30pm On Dec 08, 2022
AntiChristian:
A film or storyline doesn't matter but our texts!

Allah was never represented by any idol whatsoever!

Allah says many times in the Qu'ran and Sunnah that He rose above His throne over the seven heavens!

Allah is the Quarysh tribal idol that Muhammad gave you to worship just like other pagan practices he gave you and called them divine revelation like fasting on the day of Ashura

Sahih al-Bukhari 1893
Narrated `Aisha:
(The tribe of) Quraish used to fast on the day of Ashura' in the Pre-Islamic period, and then Allah's Apostle ordered (Muslims) to fast on it till the fasting in the month of Ramadan was prescribed; whereupon the Prophet (ﷺ) said, "He who wants to fast (on 'Ashura') may fast, and he who does not want to fast may not fast."

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Re: See The Idol That The People Of Mecca Worshipped As Allah Before Muhammad Was Bo by HisSplendor: 6:18pm On Dec 08, 2022
AntiChristian:


Abeg claim whatever you want to claim. Each Christian denomination is right in its opinion as all of them would bring biblical proves for their existence!

After all, Jesus didn't create Christianity nor any Christian denomination!

Na humans create them after him.

No bro. Christianity was not created by anyone. It was the people of Antioch who first mockingly referred to the followers of Christ as Christians.

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Re: See The Idol That The People Of Mecca Worshipped As Allah Before Muhammad Was Bo by Maynman: 8:25pm On Dec 08, 2022
HisSplendor:


No bro. Christianity was not created by anyone. It was the people of Antioch who first mockingly referred to the followers of Christ as Christians.

Re: See The Idol That The People Of Mecca Worshipped As Allah Before Muhammad Was Bo by HisSplendor: 8:41pm On Dec 08, 2022
[quote author=Maynman post=119008072][/quote]

Had it been there are no other historic sources outside the Bible, you would have succeeded in misleading gullible people who have not met Jesus.

If your assertion was true, the Josephus the Jewish historian of that era wouldn't have mentioned Jesus Christ in his writings
Re: See The Idol That The People Of Mecca Worshipped As Allah Before Muhammad Was Bo by Maynman: 8:43pm On Dec 08, 2022
HisSplendor:


Had it been there are no other historic sources outside the Bible, you would have succeeded in misleading gullible people who have not met Jesus.

If your assertion was true, the Josephus the Jewish historian of that era wouldn't have mentioned Jesus Christ in his writings

Show us the historical sources for people who have not met iesus chretus.

Josephus didn’t mention iesus, he mentioned judas of Galilee.

The later interpolation of early Christian fathers precisely Eusebius was EXPOSED!

Re: See The Idol That The People Of Mecca Worshipped As Allah Before Muhammad Was Bo by HisSplendor: 9:03pm On Dec 08, 2022
Maynman:


Show us the historical sources for people who have not met iesus chretus.

Josephus didn’t mention iesus, he mentioned judas of Galilee.

The later interpolation of early Christian fathers was EXPOSED!

People like you argue it citing Christian interpolation. But the argument is baseless.

The said early father alleged was Eusebus. Eusebius lived 200yrs after Josephus. The book Antiquities of the Jews have circulated widely before then, tell us how the interpolation was done.

The book was translated to Latin and Arabic as well as other languages in its original form before Eusebus was ever born. All translations retain the said interpolation.

For us to believe, you guys should produce the 'un-interpolated'text. There should at least be one of them. Or you want to tell me that Christian fathers hijacked the book from Josephus as soon as he wrote it, and then interpolated it before it went into distribution?

Produce just one copy to prove the interpolation allegation.
Re: See The Idol That The People Of Mecca Worshipped As Allah Before Muhammad Was Bo by Maynman: 9:06pm On Dec 08, 2022
HisSplendor:


People like you argue it citing Christian interpolation. But the argument is baseless.

The said early father alleged was Eusebus. Eusebius lived 200yrs after Josephus. The book Antiquities of the Jews have circulated widely before then, tell us how the interpolation was done.

The book was translated to Latin and Arabic as well as other languages in its original form before Eusebus was ever born. All translations retain the said interpolation.

For us to believe, you guys should produce the 'un-interpolated'text. There should at least be one of them. Or you want to tell me that Christian fathers hijacked the book from Josephus as soon as he wrote it, and then interpolated it before it went into distribution?

Produce just one copy to prove the interpolation allegation.

Tell us the people that circulated it and quoted it before origen and Eusebius?
The book was translated to latin and arabic in what century?
Who made the book popular and started using it for their work?

Re: See The Idol That The People Of Mecca Worshipped As Allah Before Muhammad Was Bo by HisSplendor: 9:13pm On Dec 08, 2022
Maynman:


Tell us the people that circulated it and quoted it before origen and Eusebius?
The book was translated to latin and arabic in what century?
Who made the book popular and started using it for their work?


Before I answer you, show me the original copy that was not interpolated as previously requested.
Re: See The Idol That The People Of Mecca Worshipped As Allah Before Muhammad Was Bo by Maynman: 9:17pm On Dec 08, 2022
HisSplendor:


Before I answer you, show me the original copy that was not interpolated as previously requested.
all surviving copies of Josephus’ work are derived from the manuscript that passed through Eusebius’ hands.
Eusebius is the first recorded person to publish the ‘Testamonium Flavianum;’
Show us where it was “CIRCULATED WIDELY” before him within those 200 years.
The very first mention of the Testamonium Flavianum that contains iesus comes from Eusebius in the fourth century, who was a motivated Church father and known forger.

Which library or museum is the “original copy” in that mentions jesus?
Tell us the people that circulated it and quoted it before Eusebius?
The book was translated to latin and arabic in what century?
Who made the book popular and started using it for their work?

Re: See The Idol That The People Of Mecca Worshipped As Allah Before Muhammad Was Bo by AntiChristian: 6:39am On Dec 09, 2022
HisSplendor:


No bro. Christianity was not created by anyone. It was the people of Antioch who first mockingly referred to the followers of Christ as Christians.

So mention the names of the people that created Christianity?
Re: See The Idol That The People Of Mecca Worshipped As Allah Before Muhammad Was Bo by HisSplendor: 7:58am On Dec 09, 2022
AntiChristian:


So mention the names of the people that created Christianity?


Please read again. You're asking the wrong question.
Re: See The Idol That The People Of Mecca Worshipped As Allah Before Muhammad Was Bo by Maynman: 8:12am On Dec 09, 2022
Christ is a greek word when your jesus was alive in the book, he will NEVER be referred to by that greek word, so, “It was the people of Antioch who first mockingly referred to the followers of Christ as Christians.” Is pure JARGONS!

HisSplendor:


No bro. Christianity was not created by anyone. It was the people of Antioch who first mockingly referred to the followers of Christ as Christians.

Before antioch how come no one has ever called them “christian”, even the followers didn’t call themselves “Christian”. What did they call themselves? Is it Nazarenes?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazarene_(title)

By the way, it was Agrippa ll that FIRST called them CHRESTIAN at antioch!

Chrestians are PAGAN WORSHIPPERS cheesy

Re: See The Idol That The People Of Mecca Worshipped As Allah Before Muhammad Was Bo by Maynman: 8:19am On Dec 09, 2022
HisSplendor:


Before I answer you, show me the original copy that was not interpolated as previously requested.

When are you gonna answer my questions?
Tell us the people that circulated it and quoted it 200 years before Eusebius?
The book was translated to latin and arabic in what century?
Who made the book popular and started using it for their work?
Re: See The Idol That The People Of Mecca Worshipped As Allah Before Muhammad Was Bo by HisSplendor: 8:22am On Dec 09, 2022
Maynman:


When are you gonna answer my questions?
Tell us the people that circulated it and quoted it 200 years before Eusebius?
The book was translated to latin and arabic in what century?
Who made the book popular and started using it for their work?

Show me the original manuscript that does not contain the said interpolation.
Re: See The Idol That The People Of Mecca Worshipped As Allah Before Muhammad Was Bo by Maynman: 8:28am On Dec 09, 2022
Which library or museum is the “original copy” in that mentions jesus?


HisSplendor:


Show me the original manuscript that does not contain the said interpolation.

all surviving copies of Josephus’ work are derived from the manuscript that passed through Eusebius’ hands.
Eusebius is the first recorded person to publish the ‘Testamonium Flavianum;’
Show us where it was “CIRCULATED WIDELY” before him within those 200 years?
The very first mention of the Testamonium Flavianum that contains iesus comes from Eusebius in the fourth century, who was a motivated Church father and known forger.

Tell us the people that circulated it and quoted it 200 years before Eusebius?

Re: See The Idol That The People Of Mecca Worshipped As Allah Before Muhammad Was Bo by Maynman: 8:35am On Dec 09, 2022
HisSplendor:


Show me the original manuscript that does not contain the said interpolation.


The only place that proves your messiah is filled with forgery, what kind of a historical figure is that cheesy

Re: See The Idol That The People Of Mecca Worshipped As Allah Before Muhammad Was Bo by Maynman: 8:39am On Dec 09, 2022
HisSplendor:


No bro. Christianity was not created by anyone. It was the people of Antioch who first mockingly referred to the followers of Christ as Christians.
The followers of jesus were called “christian” at antioch first right, which group was called that before then?
Can you see where the mocking really is cheesy cheesy

Re: See The Idol That The People Of Mecca Worshipped As Allah Before Muhammad Was Bo by HisSplendor: 8:49am On Dec 10, 2022
Maynman:

The followers of jesus were called “christian” at antioch first right, which group was called that before then?
Can you see where the mocking really is cheesy cheesy

I too could make a blog and write down anything that comes into my head.

Let the proponents of this theory give us historical texts backed up with archeology with enough external witnesses to support their claims.
Re: See The Idol That The People Of Mecca Worshipped As Allah Before Muhammad Was Bo by Maynman: 8:51am On Dec 10, 2022
HisSplendor:


I too could make a blog and write down anything that comes into my head.

Let the proponents of this theory give us historical texts backed up with archeology with enough external witnesses to support their claims.

The first and original New Testament called codex sinaitcus is a CHRESTIAN book.

Re: See The Idol That The People Of Mecca Worshipped As Allah Before Muhammad Was Bo by HisSplendor: 8:54am On Dec 10, 2022
Maynman:


The only place that proves your messiah is filled with forgery, what kind of a historical figure is that cheesy

You yourself know that scholars are divided on this issue. Some scholars argue that the passage is authentic, others say it's partially authentic while some others allege forgery.

Posting pages from just one part of the group to justify such a controversial case only exposes your bias.
Re: See The Idol That The People Of Mecca Worshipped As Allah Before Muhammad Was Bo by Maynman: 8:56am On Dec 10, 2022
HisSplendor:


You yourself know that scholars are divided on this issue. Some scholars argue that the passage is authentic, others say it's partially authentic while some others allege forgery.

Posting pages from just one part of the group to justify such a controversial case only exposes your bias.

No all scholars agree that it’s forged.
Why is your only hope filled with controversy?

Why don’t you post your part stating that’s it not forged
Re: See The Idol That The People Of Mecca Worshipped As Allah Before Muhammad Was Bo by HisSplendor: 9:03am On Dec 10, 2022
Maynman:


The first and original New Testament called codex sinaitcus is a CHRESTIAN book.

Which 'H' was altered to read 'I' in the text?

Anyone inscrbing spurious Greek words on paper just to make a point against the truth is a failure already.

The biblical stories of Jesus are dated, include prophecies (some of which have come to pass), contain references to hundreds of verifiable Jewish and Roman figures which cannot be disputed.

You have to create hundreds of false personalities and places before this kind of lie can sail through.
Re: See The Idol That The People Of Mecca Worshipped As Allah Before Muhammad Was Bo by HisSplendor: 9:07am On Dec 10, 2022
Maynman:


No all scholars agree that it’s forged.
Why is your only hope filled with controversy?

Why don’t you post your part stating that’s it not forged

The controversy is not mine. None of us were there when the book was written. Anyone can think what he likes about an even that happened thousands of years before us. People can only speculate and make deductions which cannot tell us the exact position of things.

Books are not my hope. Christianity isn't based on nothing physical.
Re: See The Idol That The People Of Mecca Worshipped As Allah Before Muhammad Was Bo by Lukuluku69(m): 9:08am On Dec 10, 2022
MaxInDHouse:


You want us to believe what your book say is final not what some of your people who claims they're Muslims are doing but then you don't want to agree that only JWs are the true Christians based on what Jesus taught.

You and hypocrisy! cheesy

You this Jehovah Madness Babbler again!?

Have you forgotten your self-styled "agreement" this soon?

Why not channel your energy and use your monthly Internet stipend allotment to win back the erring 2.8billion lost and erring souls of your fellow Christians back to the Faith of Christ as preached by your Cult?
Re: See The Idol That The People Of Mecca Worshipped As Allah Before Muhammad Was Bo by Maynman: 9:12am On Dec 10, 2022
HisSplendor:


Which 'H' was altered to read 'I' in the text?

Anyone inscrbing spurious Greek words on paper just to make a point against the truth is a failure already.

The biblical stories of Jesus are dated, include prophecies (some of which have come to pass), contain references to hundreds of verifiable Jewish and Roman figures which cannot be disputed.

You have to create hundreds of false personalities and places before this kind of lie can sail through.

Why don’t you post ONE of those “ references to hundreds of verifiable Jewish and Roman figures which cannot be disputed.”

Re: See The Idol That The People Of Mecca Worshipped As Allah Before Muhammad Was Bo by HisSplendor: 9:14am On Dec 10, 2022
Maynman:


No all scholars agree that it’s forged.
Why is your only hope filled with controversy?

Why don’t you post your part stating that’s it not forged

Re: See The Idol That The People Of Mecca Worshipped As Allah Before Muhammad Was Bo by Maynman: 9:14am On Dec 10, 2022
HisSplendor:


The controversy is not mine. None of us were there when the book was written. Anyone can think what he likes about an even that happened thousands of years before us. People can only speculate and make deductions which cannot tell us the exact position of things.

Books are not my hope. Christianity isn't based on nothing physical.

It was you that mentioned josephus book,and josephus book was talking about JUDAS OF GALILEE

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