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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WrriterNig: 8:10pm On Jun 17, 2023
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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Dabronze(m): 8:20pm On Jun 17, 2023
WrriterNig:
⚡Serhiy Bulba, the Founder of the White Legion, a Belarusian Nationalist Movement, stated today that he believes in addition to Tactical-Nuclear Weapons, that 🇷🇺 Russian Strategic Rocket Forces have also transferred a number of RT-2PM2 “Topol-M” Mobile Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles to the Territory of 🇧🇾 Belarus; the “Topol-M” Ballistic Missile carries a 800kt Nuclear Warhead and has a Range of over 6,000 Miles.
2 of this is okay for Poland to turn to dust

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Badassniggga(m): 8:36pm On Jun 17, 2023
Dabronze:
2 of this is okay for Poland to turn to dust
leave that tiny mumu Poland to keep flexing muscles in the midst of big boys. One day na one day stray bullet go hit am.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Nobody: 9:02pm On Jun 17, 2023
dermmy:


It's not even about the money being spent actually. The war is just a distraction for Russia. NATO will continue to sponsor it, bogging down Russia is their aim. The Su75 checkmate ought to make its maiden flight this year but it has been postponed till next year analysts believe the postponement came as a result of the sanctions on Russia cause Russia could not access the components needed for the stealth aircraft.

The only enemy NATO believes it has in Europe now is Russia they believe Russia's defeat will be a great achievement for them and something that would bring a lasting peace that would allow them to sleep with their two eyes closed so they believe sponsoring Ukraine is worth it. That's why the war will drag on I don't know if Ukraine will run out of personnel in the future and get tired let's watch how everything unfolds.


Hastings Ismay was the first Secretary General of NATO. When asked why NATO was founded, he famously said: NATO was founded to “keep the Soviet Union out, the Americans in, and the Germans down.”

The bold part is Hastings Ismay exact words. You can find it on NATO’s website over here: https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/declassified_137930.htm

NATO’s mission was to destroy the USSR. When the USSR was dissolved by Ukraine, Belarus, and Russia – the three main countries that formed it – NATO switched to destroying Russia, which is considered the successor of the USSR.

To understand Ismay Hastings statement, you have to go back to the late 1800s when Germany was about to overtake the UK and France (the then world powers), to become the dominant world power. The UK didn’t want that and created an alliance of the top 3 countries in the world. This was the UK-France-Russian alliance.

The US, which was also interested in overtaking the UK to become the world power, then instigated all sides to go to war. The result was WW1. The US became stronger and everyone else became weaker.

Germany attempted a comeback in WW2 and was defeated yet again. And yet again, everyone got weaker while the US got stronger.

The powerful US overtook the weakened UK to become a superpower. But the USSR was still powerful, so it remained a superpower and the only country capable of standing up to the US.

The countries that will later form NATO drew up war plans to invade the USSR in 1945 --- right after WW2 ended. They didn’t go on with the plan because their statistics indicated the USSR was impossible to defeat. So they decided to engage in proxy wars with the USSR instead. That’s what we saw throughout the Cold War and now in Ukraine.

That was the point of Ismay Hastings statement.

The point of NATO’s proxy wars is to politically weaken the USSR (and later Russia) and not to militarily weaken them. It is important that you understand this. So your statement on “bogging down Russia” as their aim isn’t applicable. NATO can’t bog down Russia.

The whole agenda behind NATO is to force countries to turn away from the USSR and Russia. For European nations with land routes to Russia, they will drag them into an alliance. And for everyone else, they will threaten, sponsor wars and coups, or sanction them when they get too close to the Russia.

That said, the Su-75 is a new jet and is unlike anything Russia or anyone else, has ever created. Weapons like this take decades to develop, and this jet looks like something Russia only started working on. They announced the project’s existence in 2020/2021 (I can’t remember which), but didn’t announce when exactly they started working on it.

Also, when you say “analysts believe the postponement came as a result of” --- What do you expect NATO analysts to say? Besides “believe” indicates it is an opinion and not a fact. And you guys should stop talking of Russia being unable to access western components in its military equipment.

Russia will never use western components in its military equipment. It doesn’t make sense for it to.

If it did, you think the US will refuse to sell? Selling those components to Russia is the easiest way to sabotage the jet, weaken the Russian air force, and make money off Russia – all in one stroke.

If the jet has a US-made microchip for instance, all the US needs to do in the case of a war is to press a few buttons from their end, and they will instruct the microchip to shut down the jet.

Or they could instruct it to send them an alert of the jet’s location.
Or they even instruct it to turn left when the pilot wants it to turn right.
Or maybe, they will instruct it to go straight down and slam into the ground.

So does it make sense that Russia will use an enemy component in its equipment? NO.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by dvkot(m): 9:05pm On Jun 17, 2023
WrriterNig:
⚡After the 🇩🇪 German Leopard tanks, the 🇺🇸 American Bradley armored vehicles, and some modern Western armored vehicles were damaged and ended up in the hands of the Russian army, we will put them in the Patriot Military Park in Moscow as a memorial, to complement the beauty of the garden, and the 🇷🇺 Russian armor makers will study its details.
are these all western captured tanks shocked

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by dvkot(m): 9:09pm On Jun 17, 2023
Badassniggga:
leave that tiny mumu Poland to keep flexing muscles in the midst of big boys. One day na one day stray bullet go hit am.
one vs one Iran will defeat Poland twice

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Vl3ly: 9:19pm On Jun 17, 2023
WrriterNig:
⚡️🇷🇺 Russia's President Putin has shown African leaders what he claims was an agreed-upon draft agreement between Russia and Ukraine in March 2022.

The agreement puts regulations on Ukraine's armed forces and states that 🇺🇦 Ukraine must adopt permanent neutrality.

Putin says that Russia withdrew troops from Kyiv and Chernihiv in accordance with the treaty. However, after that happened Ukraine "on the orders of 🇺🇸 Washington, threw this treaty into the dustbin of history."
Russia too dey believe

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Globetrot: 9:28pm On Jun 17, 2023
As in eeeeh, they have learnt their lessons.

Vl3ly:
Russia too dey believe

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Vl3ly: 9:29pm On Jun 17, 2023
Other statements by Putin
- All the problems in Ukraine began after the bloody coup d'etat in 2014, supported by Western sponsors;

- The West actually withdrew from the peace process in Ukraine, after which the Russian Federation was forced to recognize the DPR and LPR;

- The Russian Federation supported the people in the Donbass after the coup d'Ă©tat in Ukraine and for a long time sought to resolve the situation peacefully;

- It was Kyiv that unleashed the war in Ukraine in 2014, Russia had the right under the UN Charter to provide assistance to Donbass;

- The food crisis in the world is caused not by a special operation, but by the actions of the West;

- Russia does not believe that the supply of Ukrainian grain to world markets solves the problem of hunger;

- 31.7 million tons of agricultural products have already been exported from Ukrainian ports, but only 3% of this went to developing countries;

- The process of the exchange of prisoners of war is underway, the Russian Federation is ready to continue it;

- Russia is ready to consider any proposals of African countries on a settlement in Ukraine.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by dvkot(m): 9:50pm On Jun 17, 2023
Vl3ly:
Russia too dey believe
the west has painted Russia as the bad guy for so long, this war really opened people eyes gan

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by dvkot(m): 9:54pm On Jun 17, 2023
Vl3ly:
Other statements by Putin
- All the problems in Ukraine began after the bloody coup d'etat in 2014, supported by Western sponsors;

- The West actually withdrew from the peace process in Ukraine, after which the Russian Federation was forced to recognize the DPR and LPR;

- The Russian Federation supported the people in the Donbass after the coup d'Ă©tat in Ukraine and for a long time sought to resolve the situation peacefully;

- It was Kyiv that unleashed the war in Ukraine in 2014, Russia had the right under the UN Charter to provide assistance to Donbass;

- The food crisis in the world is caused not by a special operation, but by the actions of the West;

- Russia does not believe that the supply of Ukrainian grain to world markets solves the problem of hunger;

- 31.7 million tons of agricultural products have already been exported from Ukrainian ports, but only 3% of this went to developing countries;

- The process of the exchange of prisoners of war is underway, the Russian Federation is ready to continue it;

- Russia is ready to consider any proposals of African countries on a settlement in Ukraine.


i was watching this news today and i could tell you that Russia is 100% telling the truth cos they were bringing evidence and paperwork to back up everything and the grain deal was for Europe so they should stop using Africa as a pity potty for that stupid grain deal, as if we are living of the grains

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Appleyard(m): 10:33pm On Jun 17, 2023
WrriterNig:
⚡🇺🇸 Joe Biden ended his gun control event in Connecticut with a baffling remark: “God save the Queen, man.”

grin Tinubu senior neither. [color=#990000][/color] grin

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by aumeehn: 11:06pm On Jun 17, 2023
Donjazet2:


A very wonderful move. Shows how thoughtful the western world have become.

The west have began to engender a world of tolerance, unity and love. We must do all we can to support them.
But the same advocates of love and tolerance banned Polygamy. Why? Dont they (poligamist) deserve love and support?

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Ibime(m): 3:18am On Jun 18, 2023
WrriterNig:
⚡️🇷🇺 Russia's President Putin has shown African leaders what he claims was an agreed-upon draft agreement between Russia and Ukraine in March 2022.

The agreement puts regulations on Ukraine's armed forces and states that 🇺🇦 Ukraine must adopt permanent neutrality.

Putin says that Russia withdrew troops from Kyiv and Chernihiv in accordance with the treaty. However, after that happened Ukraine "on the orders of 🇺🇸 Washington, threw this treaty into the dustbin of history."

Putin can lie for Africa

He withdrew from Kiev because his blitzkrieg failed and he couldn't supply his troops there

This is not a signed treaty but a proposal from Russia to turn Ukraine into a vassal state by defenestrating it's military whilst illegally occupying it's lands. An invitation to slavery. Nobody signed anything with him.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Ibime(m): 3:31am On Jun 18, 2023
Poland know what they saw in the hands of the USSR

Foolish kids of nowadays that don't know history

Clowns forgot that Stalin invaded Poland from the East 6 days after Hitler invaded from the West in a deal that Stalin and Hitler made to partition the country. It was only 2 years later that Hitler attacked Stalin that Stalin left Poland. Hundreds of thousands of Poles had already been killed and deported to Siberia by then. That was then followed by decades of suffering, internments and mass deportations under Soviet system.

Na who wear shoe know where e dey pinch am. The Poles have been warning the EU of Putin's 1930s style of disregard for national sovereignty for decades, while Angela Merkel was cozying up to Russia and feeding the beast.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by HornyTave1: 4:51am On Jun 18, 2023
Ibime:


Putin can lie for Africa

He withdrew from Kiev because his blitzkrieg failed and he couldn't supply his troops there

This is not a signed treaty but a proposal from Russia to turn Ukraine into a vassal state by defenestrating it's military whilst illegally occupying it's lands. An invitation to slavery. Nobody signed anything with him.

Allow Zelensky to deny the treaty Putin brought forward, your knowledge on this issue is very limited.

Your audacity is to call it fake is obnoxious and alarming.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Kingsnairaland(m): 4:53am On Jun 18, 2023
Ibime:


Putin can lie for Africa

He withdrew from Kiev because his blitzkrieg failed and he couldn't supply his troops there

This is not a signed treaty but a proposal from Russia to turn Ukraine into a vassal state by defenestrating it's military whilst illegally occupying it's lands. An invitation to slavery. Nobody signed anything with him.

That what USA evil nato propaganda lies told u.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Badassniggga(m): 6:12am On Jun 18, 2023
Vl3ly:
Russia too dey believe
Russia was deceived. Anything that makes Russia find its way close to Kiev again is game over for whatever regime is occupying Kiev.

Russia will need at least a 700k soldiers to fully capture Kiev in any second engagement there. There's still a lot of unoccupied borders Russia could use.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WrriterNig: 6:33am On Jun 18, 2023
⚡🇪🇺 EU countries agree to continue importing liquefied natural gas from Russia, despite 🇺🇸 US pressure. This was stated by the head of the French company TotalEnergies Patrick Pouyanne.

“We have a twenty-year contract with 🇷🇺 Russia. If we do not take this gas, we will still have to pay for it. For now, the European Union is telling us to continue despite American pressure,” Pouyanne said in the 🇫🇷 French newspaper Le Journal du Dimanche.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by dermmy(m): 7:16am On Jun 18, 2023
Russia uses foreign components on its civilian and military jets. Please do your research. Forensic analyst even saw western components like chips in Russian military jets downed over Ukraine. That doesn't make Russia a lesser technology power even US uses foreign chips too.

Chips are inspected for potential backdoors before being used on military equipment. It is a must to screen any foreign component before using them for your military so no one can control Russia's jet remotely as you have thought. Russia manufactures its own engines.

Russia isn't mass producing the Su75 now the prototype built was to fly and demostrate this year but it has been postponed till next year even United Arab Emirate that was part of the program has pulled out cause it felt the future of the aircraft isn't certain. If India pulls out too I am afraid to say that could be the end of the Su75 like the Su57/HALFGFA that India pulled out from.

Shoodboi:


Hastings Ismay was the first Secretary General of NATO. When asked why NATO was founded, he famously said: NATO was founded to “keep the Soviet Union out, the Americans in, and the Germans down.”

The bold part is Hastings Ismay exact words. You can find it on NATO’s website over here: https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/declassified_137930.htm

NATO’s mission was to destroy the USSR. When the USSR was dissolved by Ukraine, Belarus, and Russia – the three main countries that formed it – NATO switched to destroying Russia, which is considered the successor of the USSR.

To understand Ismay Hastings statement, you have to go back to the late 1800s when Germany was about to overtake the UK and France (the then world powers), to become the dominant world power. The UK didn’t want that and created an alliance of the top 3 countries in the world. This was the UK-France-Russian alliance.

The US, which was also interested in overtaking the UK to become the world power, then instigated all sides to go to war. The result was WW1. The US became stronger and everyone else became weaker.

Germany attempted a comeback in WW2 and was defeated yet again. And yet again, everyone got weaker while the US got stronger.

The powerful US overtook the weakened UK to become a superpower. But the USSR was still powerful, so it remained a superpower and the only country capable of standing up to the US.

The countries that will later form NATO drew up war plans to invade the USSR in 1945 --- right after WW2 ended. They didn’t go on with the plan because their statistics indicated the USSR was impossible to defeat. So they decided to engage in proxy wars with the USSR instead. That’s what we saw throughout the Cold War and now in Ukraine.

That was the point of Ismay Hastings statement.

The point of NATO’s proxy wars is to politically weaken the USSR (and later Russia) and not to militarily weaken them. It is important that you understand this. So your statement on “bogging down Russia” as their aim isn’t applicable. NATO can’t bog down Russia.

The whole agenda behind NATO is to force countries to turn away from the USSR and Russia. For European nations with land routes to Russia, they will drag them into an alliance. And for everyone else, they will threaten, sponsor wars and coups, or sanction them when they get too close to the Russia.

That said, the Su-75 is a new jet and is unlike anything Russia or anyone else, has ever created. Weapons like this take decades to develop, and this jet looks like something Russia only started working on. They announced the project’s existence in 2020/2021 (I can’t remember which), but didn’t announce when exactly they started working on it.

Also, when you say “analysts believe the postponement came as a result of” --- What do you expect NATO analysts to say? Besides “believe” indicates it is an opinion and not a fact. And you guys should stop talking of Russia being unable to access western components in its military equipment.

Russia will never use western components in its military equipment. It doesn’t make sense for it to.

If it did, you think the US will refuse to sell? Selling those components to Russia is the easiest way to sabotage the jet, weaken the Russian air force, and make money off Russia – all in one stroke.

If the jet has a US-made microchip for instance, all the US needs to do in the case of a war is to press a few buttons from their end, and they will instruct the microchip to shut down the jet.

Or they could instruct it to send them an alert of the jet’s location.
Or they even instruct it to turn left when the pilot wants it to turn right.
Or maybe, they will instruct it to go straight down and slam into the ground.

So does it make sense that Russia will use an enemy component in its equipment? NO.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WrriterNig: 7:25am On Jun 18, 2023
⚡🇺🇸 U.S Air force jet carrying Secretary of State Antony Blinken lands in China.

US Secretary of State Antony Blinken is in Beijing for a high-stakes visit meant to steer relations between the United States and 🇨🇳 China back on course after months of inflamed tensions between the world’s two largest economies..

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Gbadebo19(m): 7:36am On Jun 18, 2023
Kingsnairaland:


That what USA evil nato propaganda lies told u.
Oya, tell us the Russian version that is not propaganda. grin grin
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WrriterNig: 7:50am On Jun 18, 2023
⚡🇷🇺 Putin tells African leaders Russia is open to "constructive dialogue" about conflict in Ukraine.

Russian President Vladimir Putin said Moscow is "open to a constructive dialogue" and praised African countries' diplomatic approach to the war in Ukraine during a meeting he held with several leaders from the continent in St. Petersburg on Saturday.

“We salute the balanced approach of our African friends to the Ukrainian crisis. ... We are open to a constructive dialogue with all those who want peace based on the principles of justice and consideration of the legitimate interests of the parties," Putin said.

He maintained that “Russia is ready to consider any African proposals for conflict settlement in 🇺🇦 Ukraine,” but blamed Kyiv for refusing to negotiate.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Gbadebo19(m): 7:51am On Jun 18, 2023
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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by olugabbie(m): 7:52am On Jun 18, 2023
Ibime:
Poland know what they saw in the hands of the USSR

Foolish kids of nowadays that don't know history

Clowns forgot that Stalin invaded Poland from the East 6 days after Hitler invaded from the West in a deal that Stalin and Hitler made to partition the country. It was only 2 years later that Hitler attacked Stalin that Stalin left Poland. Hundreds of thousands of Poles had already been killed and deported to Siberia by then. That was then followed by decades of suffering, internments and mass deportations under Soviet system.

Na who wear shoe know where e dey pinch am. The Poles have been warning the EU of Putin's 1930s style of disregard for national sovereignty for decades, while Angela Merkel was cozying up to Russia and feeding the beast.


So which country later liberated Poland when it was seized by Germany?

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WrriterNig: 7:52am On Jun 18, 2023
⚡🇷🇺 Kremlin says Putin is open to contact with German and French leaders.

The Kremlin supports dialogue with 🇩🇪 German Chancellor Olaf Scholz and French leader Emmanuel Macron, but no proposals for a conversation have been received yet, spokesperson Dmitry Peskov said Saturday.

"Scholz and 🇫🇷 Macron both stated the importance of continuing the dialogue with Russia, and we support this point of view, but so far no specific proposals have been received. The president said yesterday that he remains open for communication," Peskov said during a call with reporters.

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by okeysoninv: 8:31am On Jun 18, 2023
Ukrainian air defense forces shoot down two enemy Ka-52 helicopters, four Shahed drones
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by okeysoninv: 8:39am On Jun 18, 2023
Large Russian ammunition storage point on fire near Henichesk

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Nobody: 8:57am On Jun 18, 2023
dermmy:
Russia uses foreign components on its civilian and military jets. Please do your research. Forensic analyst even saw western components like chips in Russian military jets downed over Ukraine. That doesn't make Russia a lesser technology power even US uses foreign chips too.

Chips are inspected for potential backdoors before being used on military equipment. It is a must to screen any foreign component before using them for your military so no one can control Russia's jet remotely as you have thought. Russia manufactures its own engines.

Russia isn't mass producing the Su75 now the prototype built was to fly and demostrate this year but it has been postponed till next year even United Arab Emirate that was part of the program has pulled out cause it felt the future of the aircraft isn't certain. If India pulls out too I am afraid to say that could be the end of the Su75 like the Su57/HALFGFA that India pulled out from.




In 1945, a group of Soviet students visited the US ambassador to the Soviet Union and gifted him a wooden seal of the US. The Americans checked the gift to ensure it didn't contain any spy device. They didn't find any and the ambassador hung it in his office.

One day, a British embassy employee saw the Soviets transmitting radio signals to the US ambassador office. He tuned on his radio to a similar frequency and suddenly heard Americans talking. He told the Americans what he discovered and the Americans started their own investigations.

They discovered the sound was coming from the wooden seal the students gave the US ambassador.

The Soviets at the time used a passive transmission device to spy on the ambassador. At the time, everyone used active transmission devices.

Active is when the spy device sends out signals. Passive is when an external device extracts those signals.

If the seal sent out signals, the Americans would have found out immediately. But instead, it only stored the conversations and an external device was used to extract that the recordings, allowing the Soviets to record the ambassador's conversations for 6 years.

What am I drawing out with this?

You can only find what you know.

You can only discover a backdoor if you know what backdoor to look for. If that backdoor happens to be a new technology like the stuff the Soviets put in that seal, you will never find it.

Think about it --- If a spy agency could develop something this sophisticated back in 1945, you can imagine what spy agencies have at their disposal today. So why do you think Russia will risk having western components in its jets?

If Russia wants to use US tech in its top weapon, you think the US will not spend lots of money to develop a new backdoor that Russia cannot detect?

They will. Russia knows this too, so the risk is too much for them.

Also, when you call the Su-57 a failed project, how many Su-57 does Russia even have? I searched online and the estimates vary from 3 to 74 --- all from your so-called Western analysts.

The funny thing is that these Western analysts claimed Russia had 74 as of 2021 but then switched to saying Russia had just 3 when the Ukraine war began in 2022. What does this tell you about the credibility of your Western analysts?

Also, you're being cunning when you say the UAE pulled out of the Su-75 program.

The UAE only began talks of joining the Su-75 program in January 2022 after pulling out of the F-35 deal with the US.

I researched your statement and couldn't find any reference to Russia and the UAE signing a deal. The only reference I found is that both countries started talks in January 2022, but somehow you claim a deal was signed and they then pulled out.

Talking of pulling out, everyone that claims the deal was canceled references an article from this US analyst called Maya Carlin. And this is the line where she mentioned that the deal was cancelled:

Furthermore, it appears that the United Arab Emirates has at least paused its involvement in the project, drying up a critical source of funding and R&grin.
https://www.19fortyfive.com/2023/05/su-75-russias-new-stealth-fighter-may-never-fly-thanks-to-ukraine-war/

In that statement she says, "It appears". Appears? Did it happen or not? Her statement is an opinion. And she didn't even mention how she arrived at the opinion. But you and everyone else started to pass off the opinion as a fact.

Propaganda happens when you mix facts with opinion.

To further prove your bias, you didn't say the UAE pulled out of the F-35 deal because the plane is wack and fat and can't do half of what the US claims it can do. But when the UAE "pulls" out of a "deal" (as you claimed) with Russia, you say it's because the plane is wack. How does that sound to you?

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Regex: 9:13am On Jun 18, 2023
Shoodboi:


In 1945, a group of Soviet students visited the US ambassador to the Soviet Union and gifted him a wooden seal of the US. The Americans checked the gift to ensure it didn't contain any spy device. They didn't find any and the ambassador hung it in his office.

One day, a British embassy employee saw the Soviets transmitting radio signals to the US ambassador office. He tuned on his radio to a similar frequency and suddenly heard Americans talking. He told the Americans what he discovered and the Americans started their own investigations.

They discovered the sound was coming from the wooden seal the students gave the US ambassador.

The Soviets at the time used a passive transmission device to spy on the ambassador. At the time, everyone used active transmission devices.

Active is when the spy device sends out signals. Passive is when an external device extracts those signals.

If the seal sent out signals, the Americans would have found out immediately. But instead, it only stored the conversations and an external device was used to extract that the recordings, allowing the Soviets to record the ambassador's conversations for 6 years.

What am I drawing out with this?

You can only find what you know.

You can only discover a backdoor if you know what backdoor to look for. If that backdoor happens to be a new technology like the stuff the Soviets put in that seal, you will never find it.

Think about it --- If a spy agency could develop something this sophisticated back in 1945, you can imagine what spy agencies have at their disposal today. So why do you think Russia will risk having western components in its jets?

If Russia wants to use US tech in its top weapon, you think the US will not spend lots of money to develop a new backdoor that Russia cannot detect?

They will. Russia knows this too, so the risk is too much for them.

Also, when you call the Su-57 a failed project, how many Su-57 does Russia even have? I searched online and the estimates vary from 3 to 74 --- all from your so-called Western analysts.

The funny thing is that these Western analysts claimed Russia had 74 as of 2021 but then switched to saying Russia had just 3 when the Ukraine war began in 2022. What does this tell you about the credibility of your Western analysts?

Also, you're being cunning when you say the UAE pulled out of the Su-75 program.

The UAE only began talks of joining the Su-75 program in January 2022 after the pulling out of the F-35 deal with the US.

I researched your statement and couldn't find any reference to Russia and the UAE signing a deal. The only reference I found is that both countries started talks in January 2022, but somehow you claim a deal was signed and they then pulled out.

Talking of pulling out, everyone that claims the deal was canceled references an article from this US analyst called Maya Carlin. And this is the line where she mentioned that the deal was cancelled:

https://www.19fortyfive.com/2023/05/su-75-russias-new-stealth-fighter-may-never-fly-thanks-to-ukraine-war/

In that statement she says, "It appears". Appears? Did it happen or not? Her statement is an opinion. And she didn't even mention how she arrived at the opinion. But you and everyone else started to pass off the opinion as a fact.

Propaganda happens when you mix facts with opinion.

To further prove your bias, you didn't say the UAE pulled out of the F-35 deal because the plane is wack and fat and can't do half of what the US claims it can do. But when the UAE "pulls" out of a "deal" (as you claimed) with Russia, you say it's because the plane is wack. How does that sound to you?


School him

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WrriterNig: 10:06am On Jun 18, 2023
⚡First frame, 🇳🇬 Nigerian soldier with a 🇷🇺 Russian made Orsis T-5000 bolt-action sniper rifle.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Badassniggga(m): 10:17am On Jun 18, 2023
Kingsnairaland:

. Russia has a chip factory it does not use any foreign component in it military manufacturing sector stop dreaming after the west propaganda.
lol so many foølish US zombies believe Russia is dependent on components from US or Europe to make anything in their military sector. Of course some minor components are sourced from elsewhere but thinking only it's only US that produces such components is just delusion and madness. Imagine thinking Russia needs anything from US for their tanks or other arms production. These people don't know Russia has almost whatever material she needs to produce anything grin

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