Madups:
so whats wrong with my take on that

Same as decorated bah or say, individual award. If that's what you mean, then your claim is wrong.

Sweetplum:
u no well.. if I support CR7 no mean say make I bad talk Messi. Why I m better than u is that I acknowledge Messi's achievements. But you are discrediting CR7 as if you just v personal beef wt him

is that how to acknowledge someone's success? Can't you acknowledge it without complaining. From now to the end of the world, Messi will always be ahead of him. Messi leads, odas follow including sweetplum d Pendu fangirl
Siuuuuuu

Congratulations to Argentina n Messi aka The GOAT

SenatePresdo:


I love Messi but give Ronaldo some Respect.

That beast deserves to be number 2nd ahead of Maradona and Pele.

Na Carragher list I follow.

Ucheosefoh:
If you are ignorant you shouldn't be proudly be displaying it in a public forum.

He acknowledged God in his live interview after winning the trophy.

The video is online, Facebook, Twitter and YouTube.

But he forgot to put his appreciation in writing, is that not so?
Well done!

NORSYK:


And the golden ball he never deserved it as he wasn't the best player of the tournament.
As usual the favoritism he has had all his career prevailed again

In this World Cup, name 1 player who played 90 minutes of all their games, scored in all the 4 stages, created more than 2 chances, more than 2 assists, and scored 3 goals in the final?

Just name 1 player who did it in this tournament and I'll give you a gift — I promise.

I know you'll call Mbappé. My question is, did he score in all the stages or played 90 minutes in all the games?

DearGorgeous:


Let's do it like this: Lionel Oluwasegun Onyechukwugoziri Danladi Andres Messi

Thank you love...

This is perfect.... Muah love u

iLegendd:


In this World Cup, name 1 player who played 90 minutes of all their games, scored in all the 4 stages, created more than 2 chances, more than 2 assists, and scored 3 goals in the final?

Just name 1 player who did it in this tournament and I'll give you a gift — I promise.

I know you'll call Mbappé. My question is, did he score in all the stages or played 90 minutes in all the games?

He wunt answer u. He Don run

KennethEnyi:
Useless Argentinians

Mumu what about most pained fans Penaldo fans?
Out of Ronaldo's 800goals, 180 is Penalty, 100 is offside,
300 is tap in.


Messi has reached two world cup finals,win one,win
under17 world cup,under20world cup, 2senior world cups,
Olympic,copa America etc
What about Penaldo?
He even stole Ribbery's balon dor in 2013
Una go cry blood this season

Kingjbase:


300 hundred assists? You are a liar. You need to be persecuted and arrested for such a big lie. Ronaldo fans looking for an excuse.

Out of Ronaldo's 800goals, 180 is Penalty, 100 is offside,
300 is tap in.


Messi has reached two world cup finals,win one,win
under17 world cup,under20world cup, 2senior world cups,
Olympic,copa America etc
What about Penaldo?
He even stole Ribbery's balon dor in 2013

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Moh247:
This is why Messi is loved

Acknowledging the team strength as against just his personal strenght

He kept using We, We, and more we. Instead of I , Me , Myself

The first few lines from his statement was what again

Almiron:
Maradona didn't win Copa America
Pele didn't win European titles
Ronaldo didn't win UCL
Cryuff didn't win the World Cup
Cristiano didn't win the World Cup

Messi won it all

G
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So Ronaldo never win uefa champion league?
No argument after so many years of debate it's settled.

mustahagreens:


Messi is anything but proud. He is the perfect example of humble. Perhaps you mistook him for Mbappe or Ronaldo.

In the meantime, permit me to sip your tears

Ronaldo is not proud. It's is nature. Everybody can't be like Messi.

Messi and Ronaldo have done something great with their own lives. What have you guys done with yours other than being fanboys and social media asslickers? Go and sit down and think. Nigerian youths have a long way to go.

Madups:
Goal scoring is the most important part of football.. The sports is not like basketball where a players ability to make blocks is as important as his ability to score. Messi fans just make you want to believe the only thing cr7 is interested in is scoring goals. The last time I checked ronaldo has over 300 assists in his professional career. Dont forget he has also played almost 200 times for portugal if he is such a bad character like some people want us to believe several managers will not continue to invite him to the national team. The three records i mentioned above your e.w.u(goat) cant break even in his next life. Know this and know peace.

Let me help you out here.

A playmaker and a goal scorer.

Now a playmaker is involved in the phase of play which leads to a goal and is usually the most creative outlet for the team. Now a playmaker might have lots of assist like Debruyne or have less like Modric or Xavi or Pirlo, but what they do is create plays that opens up the game for the team to score.

Messi has been the creative outlet and top goal scorer for his team for so many years. That is no mean feat

Imagine someone doing the job of Debruyne and Lewandowski at the same time. What makes it even more spectacular is that he doesn't camp in the box 18 to get to do the Lewandowski bit.

If anyone actually plays football and understand what is required in being both the playmaker and top goal scorer, arguments against Messi's greatness ended years ago.

Ucheosefoh:
You just mentioned what Messi is better than Ronaldo on.

Messi is more clinical and has the highest number of chances created.

CR7 is 142 more matches than Messi and 29 more goals in this case who is more clinical?

Stop this public display of ignorance.

oga every one knows these guys are on a steady decline. Or is there any assurance messi will score up to 25 goals before the end of his career? You are the one displaying your ignorance in public.

Madups:
Sorry messi fans until we get to see someone that is more clinical in front of goal or some who can easily create a chance from any part of the attacking half that leads to goals.. Cr7 is still our g.o.a.t. cos the game is all about not just entertainment but entertainment from goal scoring.

Messi has a better conversion rate from shots

unmask:
Let me help you out here.

A playmaker and a goal scorer.

Now a playmaker is involved in the phase of play which leads to a goal and is usually the most creative outlet for the team. Now a playmaker might have lots of assist like Debruyne or have less like Modric or Xavi or Pirlo, but what they do is create plays that opens up the game for the team to score.

Messi has been the creative outlet and top goal scorer for his team for so many years. That is no mean feat

Imagine someone doing the job of Debruyne and Lewandowski at the same time. What makes it even more spectacular is that he doesn't camp in the box 18 to get to do the Lewandowski bit.

If anyone actually plays football and understand what is required in being both the playmaker and top goal scorer, arguments against Messi's greatness ended years ago.

Messi scores as much as lewandowski, and also plays like kdb? in your dreams? what fraudnel messi fans cant say to hype this guy doesnt exist.

Kingsley10000:


Out of Ronaldo's 800goals, 180 is Penalty, 100 is offside,
300 is tap in.


Messi has reached two world cup finals,win one,win
under17 world cup,under20world cup, 2senior world cups,
Olympic,copa America etc
What about Penaldo?
He even stole Ribbery's balon dor in 2013

how many of messi's ballon dor did he win on merit? You are here looking for who stole and who did not steal ballon dor. ole!

unmask:
Messi has a better conversion rate from shots

just replied someone on this conversion rate issue or are you guys just trolling.

Madups:
Messi scores as much as lewandowski, and also plays like kdb? in your dreams? what fraudnel messi fans cant say to hype this guy doesnt exist.

messi is a better goal creator than kdb, ozil and Xavi combined, better goal scorer than lewandowski or Ronaldo and better dribbler than hazard, Neymar and iniesta.

Madups:
oga every one knows these guys are on a steady decline. Or is there any assurance messi will score up to 25 goals before the end of his career? You are the one displaying your ignorance in public.

Messi in steady decline?

He has scored over 28 goals this year and will win the Ballon d'Or.

Talk about CR7 steady decline not Messi.

Madups:
oga every one knows these guys are on a steady decline. Or is there any assurance messi will score up to 25 goals before the end of his career? You are the one displaying your ignorance in public.

After watching Messi in the World Cup your mind told you he is in steady decline.

I have nothing else to tell you than to tell you to carry your frustration and find club for CR7.

Madups:
Goal scoring is the most important part of football.. The sports is not like basketball where a players ability to make blocks is as important as his ability to score. Messi fans just make you want to believe the only thing cr7 is interested in is scoring goals. The last time I checked ronaldo has over 300 assists in his professional career. Dont forget he has also played almost 200 times for portugal if he is such a bad character like some people want us to believe several managers will not continue to invite him to the national team. The three records i mentioned above your e.w.u(goat) cant break even in his next life. Know this and know peace.

See the way you just contradicted yourself in the guise to paint Ronaldo above Messi. You claimed scoring goal is the most important part of football but dispelled that of Basketball, forgetting that no matter your skills, if you don't dunk to score more points, you can't be regarded as the best in basketball.
Please you guys should try and be thinking before dishing out comment. Some of us are well schooled that we don't take comment hook line and sinker.
Now to the main issue, if football is all about goals, Didier Drogba would have won best footballer of the year more than three times when in Chelsea. Also Modric would not have won the balloon D'or in his life time. As important as the goal is, its importance is to the team and not individual performance. A player may not score goal but the difference he makes in a team can surpass the goal scorer that score 20 goals in a match. Know this and be at peace. Carnavaro never score goals like Ronaldo Delima and he was voted the best player of the year just because of his performance.
We shall continue to school you guys that think everything about football is all goals, that anyone that doesn't school goals hasn't done anything in you people school of football. You guys would learn by force.
You even lied about his record of assists. Check the poster below and stop lie. Details of their performance are also below for your education.


https://www.messivsronaldo.app/
Messi vs Ronaldo - so who is the best?
Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo are two of the best footballers of all time, arguably the very best of them all. And remarkably, their careers have largely coincided, with both players dominating the game for well over a decade now. But who is the best?

We compare them both in a number of different categories and let you decide the overall winner.

Who scores more goals?
What really made this rivalry catch fire was their incredible, unprecedented goalscoring rates, with both Messi and Ronaldo averaging more than one goal every game at their peaks. During the 9 years Ronaldo spent at Real Madrid, Messi and Ronaldo both scored a goal every 85 minutes in all competitions. The adjacency of their goalscoring - matching each other blow for blow - has been astounding over the years.

Over their entire careers, it's Messi who edges the ratio, with 0.79 goals per game, whereas Ronaldo has scored 0.72 goals per game. If we drill down into goals per minutes, Messi scores a goal every 104 minutes, and Ronaldo scores a goal every 113 minutes.

Ronaldo still has more all time career goals than Messi though (Ronaldo has 819 career goals and Messi has 793 career goals), but Ronaldo has played 142 more games over his career than Messi has.

Although Messi shades the overall ratio, Ronaldo spent more of his formative years as a more traditional right winger, only really starting to focus on goalscoring as his primary function in 2006, 3-4 years into his career. For Messi, it was 2-3 years until he completed the transformation from a nippy winger into a player hungry for goals above everything else. If we take these differing beginnings into account, the ratios would be even closer.

Of all the categories, goalscoring is the hardest to separate them on. This one's a tie.

WINNER:TIE



Who provides more assists?
When it comes to assists, there's only one winner. Lionel Messi's playmaking abilities are right up there with the very best, and he has the numbers to prove it.

Messi has racked up an impressive 350 assists in 1003 career appearances, compared to Ronaldo's 234 assists in 1145 games.

However, because Messi has a clear ascendancy when it comes to assists, this often leads people to fall into the trap of underestimating Ronaldo's proficiency in this area. Ronaldo's assist numbers are still extremely impressive compared to the other mere mortals that play the beautiful game.

In fact, Ronaldo has more in the Champions League, with 42 assists to Messi's 40 assists - granted Ronaldo has played 26 more matches than Messi, but this is still an impressive tally.

With that said, you can't ignore Messi's overall assist stats - he takes this category comfortably.

WINNER:MESSI

More Assist Stats


Who's the best at passing?
The passing stats point to a clear winner in this category; Lionel Messi. But again, Ronaldo's passing abilities are often underestimated.

In the league and Champions League since 2009/10, Messi has made 1324 key passes in 578 appearances, whilst Ronaldo has made 890 key passes in 561 appearances.

Messi also dominates the throughball statistics, making 430 successful throughballs in that same time period, compared to Ronaldo's 81 successful throughballs.

Although Messi's passing numbers are clearly superior, Ronaldo's are still impressive. It's also likely that his passing stats would have been significantly higher before 2009 when he was more involved in the creative build-up play.

WINNER:MESSI

More Key Pass Stats


Who's the best at dribbling?
Ronaldo started his career as a tricky winger, when his game was all about running at and beating defenders with his pace and skill. As he has transitioned to an inside-forward / striker role over the years, dribbling has naturally become significantly less of a factor in Ronaldo's performances.

Messi also started his footballing career stuck to the by-line, eventually moving to a more central role as his primary position for most of his career. However, Messi plays a very different game to a traditional centre-forward, with his natural Number 10 abilities making him the perfect False 9. As a result Messi comes much deeper, towards the play, rather than making runs and playing off the shoulder of the defenders.

Because he often comes deep to receive the ball, dribbling is still a major part of Messi's game, completing an incredible 3018 dribbles in the league and Champions League, compared to Ronaldo's 1646 successful dribbles (since 2003/04).

There is therefore little doubt that Lionel Messi is the best when it comes to dribbling.

WINNER:MESSI

More Dribbling Stats


Who's the best at heading?
Heading is without doubt the most clear-cut category, with Ronaldo's heading stats absolutely dwarfing Messi's.

Over their entire careers, Ronaldo has scored 141 headers in 1145 appearances, whereas Messi has scored just 26 headers in 1003 appearances.

In addition to headed goals, Ronaldo has also won 737 aerial duels in the league and Champions League since 2009/10 compared to Messi's 114 aerial duels won.

Of course, when you look at their respective builds, the way they play, the way their teams play, these numbers are hardly surprising.

WINNER:RONALDO

More Aerial Duel Stats


Who's the best at shooting?
The stats show that Ronaldo consistently has more shots on goal than Messi, totalling 3447 shots in the league and Champions League since 2009/10, compared to Messi's 2843 shots.

However, Messi converts a higher percentage of his shots, scoring a goal with every 5.22 shots, whereas Ronaldo scores a goal with every 6.43 shots.

Leo Messi also gets more of his shots on target, with 47.63%, of his efforts on target compared to Ronaldo's 41.14%,.

However, despite Messi's superior efficiency, the sheer volume of attempts Cristiano Ronaldo is able to produce is incredible and an important skill in itself. He also has the edge in terms of shooting from long-range, as well as with his weak foot and head, so that's enough to call this one a tie.

WINNER:TIE

More Shooting Stats
Who's the best at penalties?
When it comes to penalties, Ronaldo's numbers are comfortably superior to Messi's, although perhaps not by as much as some people think. The media perception is that Messi is unreliable from the spot, whereas Ronaldo is the ultimate ice-cool penalty king - the truth, is somewhere in between.

Excluding shootouts, Ronaldo has scored an impressive 146 penalties (with 29 misses) over his whole career, whereas Messi has scored 108 penalties (with 31 misses).

This gives Ronaldo an overall penalty conversion rate of 83%, compared to Messi's overall penalty conversion rate of 78%.

Ronaldo's stats are clearly better, however he's not as reliable as he is sometimes portrayed, with other elite strikers such as Lewandowski and Ibrahimovic boasting significantly better conversion rates.

In terms of big penalty misses, Messi missed one in the 2016 Copa America final shootout against Chile, and the 2012 Champions League semi-final miss against Chelsea.

For Ronaldo, his biggest penalty misses came in the 2008 Champions League final shootout against Chelsea (his Man Utd side would ultimately go on to win due to John Terry's miss), and in the 2012 Champions League semi-final shootout against Bayern Munich (which did prove fatal for Real Madrid).

WINNER:RONALDO

More Penalty Stats
Who's the best at free kicks?
In recent years, Messi has become the ultimate free kick specialist, whilst Ronaldo's proficiency in this area has diminished somewhat alarmingly. However, to say that this category is therefore cut-and-dry is simple recency bias.

For example, it may be true that from 2017-2019, Messi scored 23 free kick goals to Ronaldo's 5; however, from 2009-2011, Ronaldo scored 21 direct free kick goals to Messi's 3.

In terms of the all time career stats, Messi has now scored 60 free kick goals compared to Ronaldo's 58 free kick goals.

A few years ago this category seemed like a lock for Cristiano Ronaldo, but Leo Messi's stunning turnaround in recent years means he's caught up with Ronaldo and also has the better free kick conversion rate, so he just shades this one.

WINNER:MESSI

More Free Kick Stats
Who scores more hat tricks?
The rate at which Messi and Ronaldo score hat tricks is scarcely believable, with a staggering 116 between them; 56 career hat tricks for Messi and 60 career hat tricks for Ronaldo.

Ronaldo may still have the overall lead, but Messi has a slight edge in terms of frequency. Messi scores a hat trick every 17.9 games, whereas Ronaldo scores a hat trick every 19.1 games.

These numbers are so tight, and to add to this, their hat trick count in league games is: 36 hat tricks for Messi and 39 hat-tricks for Ronaldo. And in the Champions League? 8 hat tricks for Messi and 8 hat tricks for Ronaldo.

This one's definitely a tie.

WINNER:TIE

More Hat-trick Stats
Who has won more individual awards?
No other footballers in history have sustained such elite levels for such a long period of time. Their stranglehold on the coveted Ballon d'Or award has been relentless, with Messi's 7 Ballon d'Or trophies edging Ronaldo's haul of 5 Ballons d'Or. No other player in history has won more than 3! If Messi or Ronaldo didn't have each other to compete with for the award over the years, it's not inconceivable that one of them could have picked up the award 10 times or more.

In terms of UEFA's top award, it's Ronaldo that has the edge with 4 awards (1x UEFA Club Footballer of the Year, 2x UEFA Best Player in Europe, 1x UEFA Men's Player of the Year) to Messi's 3 awards (1x UEFA Club Footballer of the Year, 2x UEFA Best Player in Europe).

In terms of golden boots, Messi has finished as the league's top scorer 8 times, winning the European Golden Shoe on 6 of those occasions. Ronaldo has finished as top scorer in the league 5 times (once in the Premier League, once in Serie A, and 3 times in La Liga), winning 4 European Golden Shoes in the process.

Ronaldo has won the Puskas award for best goal in a calendar year (2 nominations), whereas Messi has so far failed to win this award despite being nominated 7 times.

Messi has however won the Golden Ball, awarded to the player of the tournament at the World Cup, after taking his Argentina side to the final in 2014, narrowly losing out to Germany in the final. He has also been named Copa America's Best Player on two occasions, and Best Young Player once.

WINNER:MESSI

All Honours & Achievements
Who has won more trophies?
In terms of trophies, Messi has the overall lead, with 42 trophies to Ronaldo's 34 trophies (including Messi's 2008 Olympic triumph and 2005 U-20 World Cup).

Internationally, Messi has now won both the Copa America and the World Cup with Argentina, while Ronaldo has won the Euros with Portugal as well as a Nations League trophy.

Messi has 11 league titles to Ronaldo's 7, but Ronaldo has the ascendancy in terms of Champions League triumphs with 5 to Messi's 4. There's not a lot in it, but the overall figures means Messi currently edges this one.

WINNER:MESSI

All Honours & Achievements
Who has more records?
In short, Messi and Ronaldo have a similar number of records to their name. The most startling is maybe Messi's Guiness World Record for scoring 91 goals in a calendar year in 2012. To put this into context, Messi's next best is 60 and Ronaldo's best is 69. To score 91 goals in a year is other worldly.

Ronaldo however dominates the Champions League record books, with most goals, most assists, most free kick goals, most hat-tricks (shared with Messi), and most goals in a single season.

Messi holds many European records at domestic level, with the most league goals scored in a single season (50 goals), and most consecutive league matches scored in in world football (21 matches, 33 goals).

At International level, Ronaldo is the all time top scorer with an unbelievable 118 goals, whilst Messi is the highest scoring South American of all time with 98 goals.

WINNER:TIE

All Records
Who's better at international level?
Both players can claim to have enjoyed fantastic careers at international level - their numbers aren't quite as other-wordly as what they produce for their club sides, but they are still extremely impressive nonetheless.

Ronaldo scores a goal every 131 minutes for Portugal, and Messi scores a goal every 146 minutes for Argentina. When you factor in assists, Ronaldo makes a goal contribution every 103 minutes, whereas Messi makes a goal contribution every 95 minutes.

Ronaldo is Portugal's all-time top scorer with 118 goals (in 196 appearances), and Messi is Argentina's all-time top scorer with 98 goals (in 172 appearances).

In terms of individual accolades for the national team, Ronaldo won the Euro 2021 Golden Boot for the top scorer, as well as the Silver Boot at Euro 2016 for scoring the 2nd most goals in the tournament. Messi has won the World Cup Golden Ball twice (2014 + 2022) (the only player ever to do so) and the Copa America Golden Ball twice (2015 & 2021), awarded to the best player of those respective tournaments. He also scooped the Golden Boot award at Copa America 2021.

Messi has experienced more heartache at international level, losing in 4 major finals, but he was finally able to triumph with his country at full senior level at Copa America 2021. He went on to win the Finalissima trophy in 2022 against European champions Italy, and then won the biggest prize of them all later that year: the World Cup!

This is in addition to his Olympic Gold medal (with an Argentina U23 side), the FIFA U20 World Cup trophy, and most recently the Finalissima trophy (UEFA / CONMEBOL Cup of Champions).

Ronaldo has reached 2 major international finals with Portugal, winning one of these at the 2016 European Championships, and losing the other at Euro 2004. He also won the UEFA Nations League with Portugal, and has the most goals in the history of international football!

Ronaldo has the better goalscoring record, but Messi has more individual accolades (4 Best Player awards at major tournaments - the most in history), and has now won both the Copa America and World Cup! So he now takes this category.

WINNER:MESSI

Did not contradict myself..do you follow nba? If yes. For how long now?

Adek15:
messi is a better goal creator than kdb, ozil and Xavi combined, better goal scorer than lewandowski or Ronaldo and better dribbler than hazard, Neymar and iniesta.

Messi in his prime a better dribbler than prime hazard? Said it.. what messi fans cant say does not exist.

Madups:
Did not contradict myself..do you follow nba? If yes. For how long now?

Continue to live in fantasy of what you know nothing about. Know this to be the best footballer, does not stop at the number of goals score but many criteria are involved and that is what I posted above. Goals are principally for team success but goals and all aspects as depicted above make the best footballer. Live by that and stop having headache for nothing.
You see the number of assists. Messi 350 and your Ronaldo 234. The difference is clear like 7up and remember CR7 has more playing time than Messi.