akwesenana:

The straw dey draw sef.

Sleekcode:


Frontend codes are regularly maintained more often than backend codes

QuoteJustOnce:


Explain how and give one example.

QuoteJustOnce:


My good friend, what makes a piece of code or codes require regular maintenance has nothing to do with whether its Fe or Be
It's in simple terms, the business requirements.
if you were asked to create a website to showcase the happenings in the just concluded world cup Qatar 2022, tell me how often would you need to go back and maintain that site after the world cup has ended?
How often do you need to maintain a personal portfolio? And for what reasons? update the project list or redesign the interface, what else?
How often do you need to maintain GTWorld Online banking? Common sense 101 is the first lecture dished at software engineering.

QuoteJustOnce:


My good friend, what makes a piece of code or codes require regular maintenance has nothing to do with whether its Fe or Be
It's in simple terms, the business requirements.
if you were asked to create a website to showcase the happenings in the just concluded world cup Qatar 2022, tell me how often would you need to go back and maintain that site after the world cup has ended?
How often do you need to maintain a personal portfolio? And for what reasons? update the project list or redesign the interface, what else?
How often do you need to maintain GTWorld Online banking? Common sense 101 is the first lecture dished at software engineering.

QuoteJustOnce:


I dont get you

QuoteJustOnce:


No need to fight, just let him understand. Without BE, FE are pretty much useless. Unless you're deploying a static website that just talks about your or your business and shows a phone number to call. No contact forms, no authentication whatsover.
Apply all the security to the FE( i wonder what security anyway lol ) and then zero at the backend and you in for a world of pain. Because they tell you everyday at FE101, dont save critical ENVs at the FE that the code can be inspected and modified.
Take away all the security ( meh ) from the FE and add security to the backend, and the app still stands gidigba.
Now add security to both and leave the cloud open (self-deployment), let my russian and chinese friends use your app do target practice
Once again, none is easier; just different risks (in order of magnitude, the FE being the lowest) and workloads attached to them.

QuoteJustOnce:


No need to fight, just let him understand. Without BE, FE are pretty much useless. Unless you're deploying a static website that just talks about your or your business and shows a phone number to call. No contact forms, no authentication whatsover.
Apply all the security to the FE( i wonder what security anyway lol ) and then zero at the backend and you in for a world of pain. Because they tell you everyday at FE101, dont save critical ENVs at the FE that the code can be inspected and modified.
Take away all the security ( meh ) from the FE and add security to the backend, and the app still stands gidigba.
Now add security to both and leave the cloud open (self-deployment), let my russian and chinese friends use your app do target practice
Once again, [b]none is easier; [/b]just different risks (in order of magnitude, the FE being the lowest) and workloads attached to them.

QuoteJustOnce:
You typed a whole lot, i'm sorry but didnt make sense. i will reply with 3 lines.

1. User's dont care about BE, only what they see. Perhaps true! But when like that guy said, of what use is a beautiful FE without the Be? so who's gonna take the credit in this case? just add a little latency to the backend calls and see users dump this beautiful app; forgetting it's beautiful.

2. Stop being ignorant, before you update an app, read the changelog. There are mostly 3 digits to semver. Major, minor and patch.
If you look well its often patch and minor for a long time, before a major. A major is a complete overhaul that could hurt backwards compatibility. maybe new looks or new foundations. Go to playstore or appstore now and check for updates and read the changelogs, come back with the ratio of major to minor and major to patch. Ratio i said.

3. BeReal is shyte and looks shytty compared to Instagram and Tiktok, but they earned Appstore app of the year 2022. Google it if you ar ein doubt. But you said nobody downloads aesthetically unpleasing apps. So the millions of people who use it, use for the beauty? or the functionality?

Bonus point: You said "Without FE your backend builds are pretty much useless lol." but to that guy who told you Be involved more than APIs. Ever used SDKs and CLI. I use Netlify and AWS CLI every goddamn day and i tell you there's no frontend for it. CLIs dont have frontends. USSDs don't have frontends. Go look at Netlify CLI releases, you'll be damned, they update that sh!t every day i get tired of the update prompts.

I am done, you are a troll. But i hope you learnt a few things. Good evening.

Sleekcode:


They don come... simply defend your backend without insults.

You mean to tell me you don't apply

Logic
Algorithm
And security on the front end also?

Overrated?

I won't even be seeing this your nonsense comment if not for the frontend.

Your last point about cyber warfare is totally out of context and irrelevant.

Hacking and programming are totally different

Sleekcode:


This is 100% relative.


Without FE your backend builds are pretty much useless lol.

How would I use your app?


Like I should start chatting with your from the command line or sending you request from postman as a potential user of your app assuming your app is a social media app?

KrazyDave16:
Look, both are challenging based on the job description but the backend got more to worry about and sometimes, their reputation is on the line too

API protocol (REST, SOAP or RPC?, exposed or hidden?). All to make sure we're keeping things secure so a bad actor does not access sensitive data.
Frontend worry? What framework to use which is - no offense - pathetic. You can stick to mastering one or two instead of trying to cram em all because one got a fancy and shorter way of doing something.

Good design pattern. After all, you gotta maintain your code right or you'd stick to dirty hacks and that's bad practice and unsafe.
Frontend don't really have this luxury, especially for those who jumped straight into learning a framework after skimming the surface of a language they learned.

Monitoring the server for irregular activities, it never, ever ends after deployment. You might be thinking "but backend devs handles security and stuff, why is there a need to monitor something that's already secure", well we do but not every package is secure.

As the packages used gets updated/patched, we gotta make changes too while making changes without any downtime (anyone familiar with web servers/DevOps knows what's up).

There are other stuff but I'd say not to take talks about how the backend is easy. We reuse code from different projects doesn't mean it is easy.

Sleekcode:


Just saw this... we're basically saying the same thing lol.
I was just sick and tired of backend guys seeing themselves as gods lols.



Let me ask you personally and I hope you answer honesty.


How many times have you say share a code/middleware/ between your different projects?

You can basically copy and reuse same code very often in the backend.



Say you have a middleware that authenticates a user in App-A, You can 100% of the time use that same code in APP-B with just moderate changes.

Or say you have a middleware that stringifies user inputs in request... you can basically reuse that same piece of code between apps...


You can reuse lots of codes on the backend which will in turn make your job easier

truthCoder:


Says the person whose site I brought down in less than an hour.

Frontend babu
Backend babu
Opsec babu

Paper horse oshi

truthCoder:


Says the person whose site I brought down in less than an hour.

Frontend babu
Backend babu
Opsec babu

Paper horse oshi

Ahuitzotl:
A very hopeless paper horse, gaskiya..

truthCoder:


Says the person whose site I brought down in less than an hour.

Frontend babu
Backend babu
Opsec babu

Paper horse oshi

truthCoder:


Says the person whose site I brought down in less than an hour.

Frontend babu
Backend babu
Opsec babu

Paper horse oshi

Sleekcode:


I still the wait u ooo wannabe hacker.

U went to my portfolio site to get my names and pics as if they were private and decided to give yourself credit.

Portfolio website I've shared on this platform countless times

Show me your big reveal Mr quack!!

Copy paste developer

Fake screennshots won't help u now i'm awake.

truthCoder2:


I know you are a bad coder. I never knew you were a dishonest individual.

But dont worry, i gat you.

I cloned your repo

and would be doing more to you soon.

Let me clean your mess first

Sleekcode:


Its public... any copy paste loving Dev is totally free to copy

truthCoder2:


It was public with your .env files before someone showed you how to make a repo private.

Dont worry..I am exposing the fraud that you are soon....Receipts dey.

Sebi you said i didnt bring down the site?

You seem to have forgotten that it was down for around 5 hours and people saw it down.

Well, since you said i didnt hack your site, i would be sharing explicit details and your crappy codes soon.

dont rush

Sleekcode:


Mr Quack!

U claimed u hacked my website under one hour and went ahead to post fake screenshots when I was asleep u even said you'd turn the website into porn hub.


I dare u to carry out your threats and look me out of my own website or forever remain in your cave.

truthCoder2:


A very dishonest individual.

I brought his site down for 5 hours and this was verified here on Nairaland.

He commits .env files to github.

I cloned his repo before he got someone smart enough to help him change his API keys and restore the site.

I would be doing a full expose with receipts from his codes soon.

Apart from the fact that he is a very poorly skilled noob (just learning react o), he is also a dishonest individual.

Instead of him to own up as a man and accept that he goofed with his site's security, he is banking on telling lies.

Sleekcode:


Please shut up and bring the website down u dumbo.


Got someone smart enough to change my API keys?


Who created the keys in the first place?

So that's your big Hack?


Getting API keys from public repos lol


Clown

Quack!