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Backend Development Is Actually Easier. by Sleekcode: 11:00am On Dec 23, 2022
What's all the hype about backend Dev thinking they're some code god or something.


On the long run backend dev is easier than frontend dev these days.

No insults...

I know someone's gonna say well " You think Backend involves just sending and processing request while querying the Db with a specific language you chose for the project

I'm ready to tackle you on why you think frontend is easier that backend grin
Re: Backend Development Is Actually Easier. by bet9ja(m): 11:21am On Dec 23, 2022
Sleekcode:
What's all the hype about backend Dev thinking they're some code god or something.


On the long run backend dev is easier than frontend dev these days.

No insults...

I know someone's gonna say well " You think Backend involves just sending and processing request while querying the Db with a specific language you chose for the project

I'm ready to tackle you on why you think frontend is easier that backend grin


You are absolutely correct. Frontend is not easy at all.

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Re: Backend Development Is Actually Easier. by Sleekcode: 11:26am On Dec 23, 2022
bet9ja:


You are absolutely correct. Frontend is not easy at all.

I swear... waiting for the backend Bros lol... really want to know why they think everything starts and ends on the server side lol... grin
Re: Backend Development Is Actually Easier. by ibkayee(f): 11:27am On Dec 23, 2022
I’d say it was easy to say front end is easier when websites were less dynamic and literally only used HTML and CSS

As of now, the ‘debate’ isn’t as straightforward so I’m not sure. I guess it depends on the project and how the individual’s mind works

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Re: Backend Development Is Actually Easier. by Sleekcode: 11:31am On Dec 23, 2022
ibkayee:
I’d say it was easy to say front end is easier when websites were less dynamic and literally only used HTML and CSS

As of now, the ‘debate’ isn’t as straightforward so I’m not sure. I guess it depends on the project and how the individual’s mind works


Great... you've made a valid point and input.

With the influx of so many frontend technologies to be at the top of your game you have to be continuously learning new stuff as a front end guy else you risk becoming absolutely irrelevant.

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Re: Backend Development Is Actually Easier. by Kvngfrosh(m): 11:36am On Dec 23, 2022
Sleekcode:
What's all the hype about backend Dev thinking they're some code god or something.


On the long run backend dev is easier than frontend dev these days.

No insults...

I know someone's gonna say well " You think Backend involves just sending and processing request while querying the Db with a specific language you chose for the project

I'm ready to tackle you on why you think frontend is easier that backend grin

Guy rest. Don’t you have better things to do ?
Re: Backend Development Is Actually Easier. by Sleekcode: 11:37am On Dec 23, 2022
Kvngfrosh:
Guy rest. Don’t you have better things to do ?

Take your own advice
Re: Backend Development Is Actually Easier. by Ahuitzotl: 11:43am On Dec 23, 2022
Backend is far and away more than that bag'o shit you crapped up... Applying logic, security, coding algorithms into malwares and worms, hacking, cyber-espionage....Infact if there was gonna be a cyberwarfare between The US and China, where do you think it will be fought, frontend or backend?.... Frontend is just a piece of overrated crap...

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Re: Backend Development Is Actually Easier. by Sleekcode: 11:56am On Dec 23, 2022
Ahuitzotl:
Backend is far and away more than that bag'o shit you crapped up... Applying logic, security, coding algorithms into malwares and worms, hacking, cyber-espionage....Infact if there was gonna be a cyberwarfare between The US and China, where do you think it will be fought, frontend or backend?.... [b]Frontend is just a piece of overrated crap...[/b]



They don come... simply defend your backend without insults.

You mean to tell me you don't apply

Logic
Algorithm
And security on the front end also?

Overrated?

I won't even be seeing this your nonsense comment if not for the frontend.

Your last point about cyber warfare is totally out of context and irrelevant.

Hacking and programming are totally different
grin
Re: Backend Development Is Actually Easier. by talk2hb1(m): 12:02pm On Dec 23, 2022
Backend is beyond writing codes for the backend, and does not end with deployment to server.
Know this and know peace.
Re: Backend Development Is Actually Easier. by airsaylongcome: 12:04pm On Dec 23, 2022
Sleekcode:


I swear... waiting for the backend Bros lol... really want to know why they think everything starts and ends on the server side lol... grin


If there was no server side, front end would not be needed o. I'm from the old school were what you all call frontend today, we called HCI. I thought it was bullcheet back then and never got won over

My mind is telling me that Sleekcode=TastyFried..=sqlPAIN

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Re: Backend Development Is Actually Easier. by Sleekcode: 12:07pm On Dec 23, 2022
talk2hb1:
Backend is beyond writing codes for the backend, and does not end with deployment to server.
Know this and know peace.

And frontend ends with deployment to the server?

Frontend codes are regularly maintained more often than backend codes cheesy

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Re: Backend Development Is Actually Easier. by Sleekcode: 12:08pm On Dec 23, 2022
airsaylongcome:


If there was no server side, front end would not be needed o. I'm from the old school were what you all call frontend today, we called HCI. I thought it was bullcheet back then and never got won over

My mind is telling me that Sleekcode=TastyFried..=sqlPAIN

I'm not Tastypussy or sqlpain lol.

Why would u even think that?
Re: Backend Development Is Actually Easier. by Ahuitzotl: 12:08pm On Dec 23, 2022
Sleekcode:


They don come... simply defend your backend without insults.

You mean to tel me you don't apply

Logic
Algorithm
And security on the front end too?

grin
Wetin consign agbero with overload? Where is the security in frontend when you can spoof sites? or the logic if it isn't coming from some documentation or tutorial video? Copy and paste, no originality, that's what's up in the frontend and the less said about algorithms the better...The backend is where the heavy lifting is done...f**k your frontend..

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Re: Backend Development Is Actually Easier. by Sleekcode: 12:09pm On Dec 23, 2022
Ahuitzotl:
Wetin consign agbero with overload? Where is the security in frontend when you can spoof sites? or the logic if it isn't coming from some documentation or tutorial video? Copy and paste, no originality, that's what's up in the frontend and the less said about algorithms the better...The backend is where the heavy lifting is done...f**k your frontend..
f**k your frontend..?


Unnecessary hate... replying this one is a waste of time... oya get lost from the thread.

Mentioning security up and down as if that's not what the backend is all about... That's why it's the backend... you need to know how to build secured code as a backend guy lol.


After you've built 1-5 applications... you can basically share same logic/code you used to secure the previous app hence making your job a lot easier... That's what I'm talking about.


Stop mentioning security and algorithms as if you need to be a genius to write secure apps... it's basically same logic you use for almost all your project.

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Re: Backend Development Is Actually Easier. by Ahuitzotl: 12:12pm On Dec 23, 2022
Sleekcode:

f**k your frontend..?


Unnecessary hate... replying this one is a waste of time... oya get lost from the thread.
Yeah, F**k your frontend..And F**k you too... Done with this clueless f**k.
Re: Backend Development Is Actually Easier. by Sleekcode: 12:15pm On Dec 23, 2022
Ahuitzotl:
Yeah, F**k your frontend..And F**k you too... Done with this clueless f**k.


Run away.... nothing extremely difficult & alien in writing middleware's to act as barrier in every request... after you've written for 1-5 apps is basically same shiit

U can basically create user authentication boilerplates and share between apps cheesy



When you lots think of Frontend all you see is Wordpress and maybe Bootstrap or something.


Imagine building a user interface like that of say full fledged Binance (All options ) or a Game
Re: Backend Development Is Actually Easier. by Ahuitzotl: 12:21pm On Dec 23, 2022
Sleekcode:



Run away.... nothing extremely difficult alien in writing middleware's to act as barrier in every request... after you've written for 1-5 apps is basically same shiit

Hot boiled crap as usual...Yo, F**k your middle ware too..
Re: Backend Development Is Actually Easier. by Sleekcode: 12:23pm On Dec 23, 2022
Ahuitzotl:
Hot boiled crap as usual...Yo, F**k your middle ware too..
....
Ended up contributing nothing...

Go take care of your Farm Mr quack!

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Re: Backend Development Is Actually Easier. by Sleekcode: 12:28pm On Dec 23, 2022
airsaylongcome:


If there was no server side, front end would not be needed o. I'm from the old school were what you all call frontend today, we called HCI. I thought it was bullcheet back then and never got won over

My mind is telling me that Sleekcode=TastyFriedd..=sqlPAIN

TastyFriedd..=sqlPAIN

People way I the bash everyday na it your mind the tell u say we be same?


It's like I'm not bashing them enough.
Re: Backend Development Is Actually Easier. by Ahuitzotl: 12:33pm On Dec 23, 2022
Sleekcode:

....
Ended up contributing nothing...

Go take care of your Farm Mr quack!
Oops, Mr arsehole did I drill a nerve?
Re: Backend Development Is Actually Easier. by Sleekcode: 12:34pm On Dec 23, 2022
Ahuitzotl:
Oops, Mr arsehole did I drill a nerve?

....
Re: Backend Development Is Actually Easier. by talk2hb1(m): 2:12pm On Dec 23, 2022
Sleekcode:


And frontend ends with deployment to the server?

Frontend codes are regularly maintained more often than backend codes cheesy
Backend Developers also caters for
-the servers
-Security of the applications
- Scalability of the application
- dynamic business needs
- etc
Re: Backend Development Is Actually Easier. by Sleekcode: 2:30pm On Dec 23, 2022
talk2hb1:

Backend Developers also caters for
-the servers
-Security of the applications
- Scalability of the application
- dynamic business needs
- etc

Yea... it's in their Job description.
Re: Backend Development Is Actually Easier. by QuoteJustOnce: 4:57pm On Dec 23, 2022
As a fullstack engineer (who has done both) + devops specialist
i would tell you that none is easier tho with different risk levels, in summary.

FE: physical stress, what could go wrong? worst case bad UX e.g. forgetting it's a 2 col grid instead of 3, you get pissed-off customers
BE: mental stress, what could go wrong? worst case loss of revenue,e.g. forgetting to divide/multiple by 100 when using paystack, you give free cashout for your customers grin grin
DE: hyperstress, what could go wrong? worst case,e.g forgetting to install a firewall... DDOS attacks and total application shutdown; you get the worst kind of customers

these are just minor examples but good enough to make you find the answer yourself.
Re: Backend Development Is Actually Easier. by QuoteJustOnce: 5:03pm On Dec 23, 2022
as a side note, remember the MTN MOMO attack, they allegedly lost $53M
was that a backend error or a frontend error?
i'll like to see an example where a faulty frontend led to loss of revenue....
even if the frontend was sending bad data, backend team gets punished for not validating request bodies and testing enough.
once again none is easier but you choose.

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Re: Backend Development Is Actually Easier. by Sleekcode: 5:07pm On Dec 23, 2022
QuoteJustOnce:
as a side note, remember the MTN MOMO attack, they allegedly lost $53M
was that a backend error or a frontend error?
i'll like to see an example where a faulty frontend led to loss of revenue....
even if the frontend was sending bad data, backend team gets punished for not validating request bodies and testing enough.
once again none is easier but you choose.

We're talking about difficulty here lol bro.

Not how much Mtn lost due to their own negligence.
Re: Backend Development Is Actually Easier. by Sleekcode: 5:09pm On Dec 23, 2022
QuoteJustOnce:
as a side note, remember the MTN MOMO attack, they allegedly lost $53M
was that a backend error or a frontend error?
i'll like to see an example where a faulty frontend led to loss of revenue....
even if the frontend was sending bad data, backend team gets punished for not validating request bodies and testing enough.
once again none is easier but you choose.

Poor user experience can lead to loss of revenue lol
Re: Backend Development Is Actually Easier. by QuoteJustOnce: 5:10pm On Dec 23, 2022
Sleekcode:


Hey didn't lost that much.

I said "allegedly" and Google is your friend
Re: Backend Development Is Actually Easier. by QuoteJustOnce: 5:10pm On Dec 23, 2022
Sleekcode:


Poor user experience can lead to loss of revenue lol

Explain how and give one example. let's argue like adults please.
Re: Backend Development Is Actually Easier. by akwesenana: 5:16pm On Dec 23, 2022
QuoteJustOnce:


Explain how and give one example. let's argue like adults please.
The straw dey draw sef.
Re: Backend Development Is Actually Easier. by QuoteJustOnce: 5:24pm On Dec 23, 2022
Ahuitzotl:
Wetin consign agbero with overload? Where is the security in frontend when you can spoof sites? or the logic if it isn't coming from some documentation or tutorial video? Copy and paste, no originality, that's what's up in the frontend and the less said about algorithms the better...The backend is where the heavy lifting is done...f**k your frontend..

No need to fight, just let him understand. Without BE, FE are pretty much useless. Unless you're deploying a static website that just talks about your or your business and shows a phone number to call. No contact forms, no authentication whatsover.
Apply all the security to the FE( i wonder what security anyway lol grin grin) and then zero at the backend and you in for a world of pain. Because they tell you everyday at FE101, dont save critical ENVs at the FE that the code can be inspected and modified.
Take away all the security ( meh grin grin) from the FE and add security to the backend, and the app still stands gidigba.
Now add security to both and leave the cloud open (self-deployment), let my russian and chinese friends use your app do target practice grin grin grin
Once again, none is easier; just different risks (in order of magnitude, the FE being the lowest) and workloads attached to them.

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