litigator:
SMH… you must be a spokesperson or a PR manager.

None of the above applies. I simply like to see what is written as it is written ---- you know, let scripture speak its own truth rather than bury it in layers of delusions and misinterpretions.

litigator:



Must we always ask for it?

Forgiveness?

Thought there is concept known as advance forgiveness

No sir.

Ask and you shall be given

With the mouth, confession is made unto salvation.

Asking for it is attaching yourself to that which has already been established.

Just like salvation, healing and likes, it has been given ahead already, but u need to ask to receive.

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Jesus Christ forgave everyone including Judas.

By those Words ""it is better that man was not born than for him to betray Him" forgiveness cannot reach Judas at all.

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He had to forgive everyone as a man and as our sinless example. The point made was in the forgiveness, not in reach/cover/answer of prayers.

Forgiveness is a Personal Right exercisable at the exclusive pleasure or displeasure of the Person Directly Offended, which is one the many lessons Christ was teaching.

Therefore, if you have offended thy brother, then go to him and obtain his forgiveness for Christ lacks jurisdiction there, which is what The Law Said and Christ re-pronounced.

Which is why if you look again you would see He did not say "I forgive them". He rather Asked Another to "Forgive them" which is "If you you Will"!

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. Do you think Jesus Christ had any grudges against anyone on the cross?

Yes! Against The Pharisees and scribes, the stupid thief, Nazareth etc

But as A Faithful Servant, He Knows that His Personal feelings should not interfere with the Work His Master has Sent Him and that all His Experience can be reported to His Master, Who will deal with it, because it is The Master Who is the recipient of this offences exactly as God told Moses, "it is not you they hate"!

Till today that bloody Sonobabeast hasn't repented.

You can kill Buhari but immediately start palpitating asking for forgiveness, you will go to heaven

You can kill Buhari but immediately start palpitating asking for forgiveness, you will go to heaven.

litigator:
I have often wondered if forgiveness is real.

I am not unmindful of the New Testament injunction that asked that we forgive our offenders 70 x 70 times.

I am also not unmindful of the passage wherein we were admonished to ensure we don’t harbor unforgiveness in our heart when approaching the alter for prayers, thanksgiving and supplications.

Thus bringing me to understand that we must learn to forgive no matter what and regardless of the circumstances cos we are all sinners.

But I do not seem to understand why Apostle Peter was forgiven for denying Jesus Christ three time and Judas Iscariot wasn’t forgiven for leading the mob to arrest Jesus in the garden.

Weren’t they all fulfilling the scriptures as it was foretold?

Why did the Apostle decide not to forgive Judas but replace him.

Do you think was against the teachings on forgiveness?

Kindly educate my ignorance.

Shalom

A few things here, how did you come about the fact that he was not forgiven? Do you forget that he killed himself?
Again if you assume that he was not forgiven because he was replaced, that means you don't understand the meaning of forgiveness and where it comes in.
So if you have 3 daughters and you notice that one does not cook tasty soups, would you still keep her as the house cook or would you give the position to the better cook? This has nothing to do with forgiveness

Judas is 330. Satan is also 330. A dry Crust with liberty in Hell is better than a King 'a luxury with a chain.

The Son of Man goes, even as it is written of him, but woe to that man through whom the Son of Man is betrayed! It would be better for that man if he had not been born."

tctrills:

A few things here, how did you come about the fact that he was not forgiven? Do you forget that he killed himself?
Again if you assume that he was not forgiven because he was replaced, that means you don't understand the meaning of forgiveness and where it comes in.
So if you have 3 daughters and you notice that one does not cook tasty soups, would you still keep her as the house cook or would you give the position to the better cook? This has nothing to do with forgiveness

So what was it about?