promisedeco:

You think you dodged the question, right?

Which one?

phemmyfour:
The joke is on you. You were using same book to justify suicide killing before I box you into a corner. You are the real HYPOCRITE

Which book did i use?

AntiChristian:


Sorry I made a mistake! John 3:16 say God sent his son to be murdered!
He accepted to be murdered instead of rejecting it.

Samson was not fighting anyone at the time he died!

John 3:16
Just talks about the destiny of Jesus to save us. He wasn't sent onnsuicide mission.

Samson was tied and was mocked to be killed. And he struck his enemies back. He was already dying when he struck back.

AntiChristian:


Many Boko Haram has been found not to be Muslims!

So they are on Samson's way!

Really? Non-Muslims are members of Jamā'at Ahl as-Sunnah lid-Da'wah wa'l-Jihād aka an Islamist militant organization?

Why do you like lies like this?
So Non-Muslims are propagating sunnah through jihad?
Taqiyyah will not kill you

AntiChristian:


Bring the verse that says he was defending the philistines when he killed himself with his enemies?

Judges 13:5 You will become pregnant and have a son whose head is never to be touched by a razor because the boy is to be a Nazirite, dedicated to God from the womb. He will take the lead in delivering Israel from the hands of the Philistines.”

AntiChristian:


Forget resurrection! His first aim was to borrow people's hand to commit murder!

Jesus borrowed people's hands to commit murder
Who are the idiots who allowed their hands to be borrowed to do such nefarious deed
Can I also borrow your hand to commit murder?

In this life we come and we go, don’t let religion beliefs bother you joor

The person dies.

AntiChristian:


Some Christians talk am on first page o

Lol

Agbegbaorogboye:

Jesus borrowed people's hands to commit murder
Who are the idiots who allowed their hands to be borrowed to do such nefarious deed
Can I also borrow your hand to commit murder?

Judas, Pontius Pilate, the people present at the judgement and the soldiers!

No you can't!

God too supported what you called nefarious deed!

Agbegbaorogboye:

Judges 13:5 You will become pregnant and have a son whose head is never to be touched by a razor because the boy is to be a Nazirite, dedicated to God from the womb. He will take the lead in delivering Israel from the hands of the Philistines.”

At the time of his death!

AntiChristian:


Forget resurrection! His first aim was to borrow people's hand to commit murder!

Do you believe in God yes or no?

AntiChristian:


At the time of his death!

Did anyone even pluck out Muhammad's eyes before he started smiting necks and hacking limbs?
Yet you call him the most perfect man and the last prophet
Why will you subject Samson to a test you will happily excuse Muhammad from oh hypocrite?

AntiChristian:


Judas, Pontius Pilate, the people present at the judgement and the soldiers!

No you can't!

God too supported what you called nefarious deed!

Where is it written that God supported it?
You're very quick to read rubbish meanings to happenings and events recorded in the Bible while your own convoluted and disjointed Quran you leave in peace?
Hypocrite

Agbegbaorogboye:

Where is it written that God supported it?
You're very quick to read rubbish meanings to happenings and events recorded in the Bible while your own convoluted and disjointed Quran you leave in peace?
Hypocrite

The Qur'an is not the subject of discuss here as regard Samson.
Earlier you said his destiny was to fight the Philistine. And he prayed to do die with them. And God allowed it.

What is hypocrisy in this submission?

Agbegbaorogboye:

Did anyone even pluck out Muhammad's eyes before he started smiting necks and hacking limbs?
Yet you call him the most perfect man and the last prophet
Why will you subject Samson to a test you will happily excuse Muhammad from oh hypocrite?

Once again Samson is not in the Qur'an. If you want a hadith from the Prophet about suicide I can give you one.

Abu Hurayrah (may Allah be pleased with him) narrated that the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) said: “Whoever throws himself down from a mountain and kills himself will be throwing himself down in the Fire of Hell for ever and ever. Whoever drinks poison and kills himself will be sipping it in the Fire of Hell for ever and ever. Whoever kills himself with a piece of iron will have that iron in his hand, thrusting it into his belly in the Fire of Hell for ever and ever.” (Narrated by al-Bukhari (5442) and Muslim (109)

AntiChristian:


The Qur'an is not the subject of discuss here as regard Samson.
Earlier you said his destiny was to fight the Philistine. And he prayed to do die with them. And God allowed it.

What is hypocrisy in this submission?

If you say God allowed it and therefore God supports suicide, which is where you're going, then it is logical to also imply that Allah allowed terrorist Muslims to bomb the UN building, killing themselves and innocent people who have done them no wrong. Therefore, Allah supports Islamic terrorism and terrorists, suicide and genocide. QED

Any other observations?

AntiChristian:


Once again Samson is not in the Qur'an. If you want a hadith from the Prophet about suicide I can give you one.

Abu Hurayrah (may Allah be pleased with him) narrated that the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) said: “Whoever throws himself down from a mountain and kills himself will be throwing himself down in the Fire of Hell for ever and ever. Whoever drinks poison and kills himself will be sipping it in the Fire of Hell for ever and ever. Whoever kills himself with a piece of iron will have that iron in his hand, thrusting it into his belly in the Fire of Hell for ever and ever.” (Narrated by al-Bukhari (5442) and Muslim (109)

Also add this one which Islamic terrorists recite before carrying out suicide bombing:
Those who leave their homes in the cause of Allah, and are then slain or die,- On them will Allah bestow verily a goodly Provision: Truly Allah is He Who bestows the best provision. Verily He will admit them to a place with which they shall be well pleased: for Allah is All-Knowing, Most Forbearing.

DaddyGngeess:


Do you believe in God yes or no?

Of Course! God is the the creator of all things!

Agbegbaorogboye:


Also add this one which Islamic terrorists recite before carrying out suicide bombing:
Those who leave their homes in the cause of Allah, and are then slain or die,- On them will Allah bestow verily a goodly Provision: Truly Allah is He Who bestows the best provision. Verily He will admit them to a place with which they shall be well pleased: for Allah is All-Knowing, Most Forbearing.

An example is Sheikh Muhammad Auwal Albani Zaria (May Allah have mercy on him) who was killed with one of his wife by Boko Haram on his way back from Tafsir! He was on the way of Jihad preaching against Boko Haram and doing Tafsir!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_Auwal_Albani_Zaria

Agbegbaorogboye:

If you say God allowed it and therefore God supports suicide, which is where you're going, then it is logical to also imply that Allah allowed terrorist Muslims to bomb the UN building, killing themselves and innocent people who have done them no wrong. Therefore, Allah supports Islamic terrorism and terrorists, suicide and genocide. QED

Any other observations?

Where is the evidence Allah commanded them?

AntiChristian:




Where is the evidence Allah commanded them?

Those who leave their homes in the cause of Allah, and are then slain or die, - On them will Allah bestow verily a goodly Provision: Truly Allah is He Who bestows the best provision. Verily He will admit them to a place with which they shall be well pleased: for Allah is All-Knowing, Most Forbearing

Where's the evidence that God supported Samson dying along with his enemies.

AntiChristian:


An example is Sheikh Muhammad Auwal Albani Zaria (May Allah have mercy on him) who was killed with one of his wife by Boko Haram on his way back from Tafsir! He was on the way of Jihad preaching against Boko Haram and doing Tafsir!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_Auwal_Albani_Zaria

Sheikh Dr Osama Bin Laden will disagree with this. You can't claim to be a better Muslim than him or know Islam more than him yet he read that particular Quran verse to support suicide bombing

Agbegbaorogboye:


Sheikh Dr Osama Bin Laden will disagree with this. You can't claim to be a better Muslim than him or know Islam more than him yet he read that particular Quran verse to support suicide bombing

Wasn't He an agent working for USA before?

Agbegbaorogboye:




Where's the evidence that God supported Samson dying along with his enemies.

Give us the last request of Samson to God!

AntiChristian:


Give us the last request of Samson to God!

What does that prove the God answered the request?
Jepthah in the Bible is recorded to have offered his daughter as a sacrifice contrary to God's command based on a vow he made.
If we're to go with your logic, it was God who pushed the daughter to come out so she can be sacrificed and the sacrifice was acceptable to God.

Meanwhile, boko haram are fighting Allah's cause against the infidels and getting killed in the process. Allah be praised

AntiChristian:


Wasn't He an agent working for USA before?

Did he ever prescribe suicide bombing for the US as he did for the mujahideen?

Agbegbaorogboye:

Did he ever prescribe suicide bombing for the US as he did for the mujahideen?

Who told you he did suicide bombing?
I asked if he wasn't their agent before it turns south?

Stop lying! Just say the truth as you figure it out! The propaganda has been against Islam for long. The truth is out!

Agbegbaorogboye:

What does that prove the God answered the request?
Jepthah in the Bible is recorded to have offered his daughter as a sacrifice contrary to God's command based on a vow he made.
If we're to go with your logic, it was God who pushed the daughter to come out so she can be sacrificed and the sacrifice was acceptable to God.

Meanwhile, boko haram are fighting Allah's cause against the infidels and getting killed in the process. Allah be praised

I showed you Boko Haram killed our sheikh but that doesn't stop you from still typing nonsense!

Your God sent his son to be killed.

Whoever He wants to die dies!

Elisha cursed 42 kids and God answered sending bears to the kids just because they called him "apari".

Abraham wanted to kill his child but god replaced him with a ram.

AntiChristian:


I showed you Boko Haram killed our sheikh but that doesn't stop you from still typing nonsense!

Your God sent his son to be killed.

Whoever He wants to die dies!

Elisha cursed 42 kids and God answered sending bears to the kids just because they called him "apari".

Abraham wanted to kill his child but god replaced him with a ram.

In one breath you're condemning God sending his son to be killed for people to be saved. But in another breath you praise Allah for sending Muhammad to kill people. How do you justify this hypocrisy? Is it not better to save than to kill in your own eyes. If by the death of one man, God saved billions of souls, is it not to be deemed better than Allah killing millions of soul by allowing one man to become a prophet?

Where is it written that whoever he wants to die, dies?

You accuse God of answering Elisha's prayer concerning 42 kids. Are you aware that a prophet's words carry power and sometimes does not need the permission of God to come to pass? Read the words of Elijah the prophet, whose powers Elisha inherited:

1 Kings 17:1 Now Elijah the Tishbite, from Tishbe in Gilead, said to Ahab, “As the LORD, the God of Israel, lives, whom I serve, there will be neither dew nor rain in the next few years except at my word. ”

From there bolded, you can see that it is according to Elijah not God before rain will fall. And it was fulfilled in chapter 18.
What I'm pointing out to you is that just as you have ministers who exercise power on behalf of the Nigerian president, so do prophets exercise the powers given to them by God freely and not necessarily with his acquiescence.
What is paramount is they will answer to God for the use or misuse of the power given to them.

Boko Haram killed your sheikh because he was not being a good Muslim. He was blaspheming the jihad which is punishable by death under Sharia which Boko Haram follow strictly.
Boko Haram seems to be good and serious Muslims

AntiChristian:


Who told you he did suicide bombing?
I asked if he wasn't their agent before it turns south?

Stop lying! Just say the truth as you figure it out! The propaganda has been against Islam for long. The truth is out!

Go and read the fatwa he gave concerning suicide bombing. He quoted that particular Quran verse to back it up.

What propaganda? At least it's good to see you agree bin laden is representative of Islam.
What truth is out though? After bin laden, other Muslim terrorist groups have sprang up who also embrace similar culture of suicide bombing like ISIS, Boko Haram, Al-shabab, ISWAP. So, it shows that suicide bombing is well accepted as a form of jihad in Islam.
All these guys can't be wrong. They are Arabs and better Muslims than you can ever be

Agbegbaorogboye:

In one breath you're condemning God sending his son to be killed for people to be saved. But in another breath you praise Allah for sending Muhammad to kill people. How do you justify this hypocrisy? Is it not better to save than to kill in your own eyes. If by the death of one man, God saved billions of souls, is it not to be deemed better than Allah killing millions of soul by allowing one man to become a prophet?

Where is it written that whoever he wants to die, dies?

You accuse God of answering Elisha's prayer concerning 42 kids. Are you aware that a prophet's words carry power and sometimes does not need the permission of God to come to pass? Read the words of Elijah the prophet, whose powers Elisha inherited:

From there bolded, you can see that it is according to Elijah not God before rain will fall. And it was fulfilled in chapter 18.
What I'm pointing out to you is that just as you have ministers who exercise power on behalf of the Nigerian president, so do prophets exercise the powers given to them by God freely and not necessarily with his acquiescence.
What is paramount is they will answer to God for the use or misuse of the power given to them.

Boko Haram killed your sheikh because he was not being a good Muslim. He was blaspheming the jihad which is punishable by death under Sharia which Boko Haram follow strictly.
Boko Haram seems to be good and serious Muslims

Where did i justify any killing here? You're the one trying to divert Samson's story to the Qu'ran!

If Boko Haram are good Muslims to you then may they show you and your family their goodness just as our sheikh and his wife!

Aamin