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Re: Is This A Fake Drug? by Everbryte: 3:01pm On Jan 23, 2023
I am not a pharmacist & do not know much about that perceptive.

but when it comes to drug administration - my two cent will be that you follow the advise of a professional pharmacist (not chemist/dispenser)
The doctor may nor even be aware/up-to-date with information/research/update regarding a particular drug. The pharmacist are the custodian of that information & they circulate it within their circle.

Ask the pharmacist for a good alternative and revert to the doctor with that information

God heal your father in Jesus's name

shortgun:
This drug Dexamethasone was prescribed by doctors in a Government hospital for my dad, getting to the pharmacy I was told that NAFDAC have stopped pharmacies from selling the drug and confiscated the ones in their warehouses.

I put a call across to the doctor to speak with the pharmacist about the development. After asking the pharmacist when the drug was withdrawn from circulation and other things the doctor insisted I get the drug in another pharmacy that have it in stock, this is after the pharmacist stood her ground that the drug is no longer safe as directed by NAFDAC.
I've gotten the drug but I am still not sure if I should let my dad take it cos of this confusion.
What do you guys think?

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Re: Is This A Fake Drug? by thesicilian: 3:01pm On Jan 23, 2023
Kellie069:
Doctor said you should buy! Pharmacist said the drugs has been banned by govt !! Probably because the pharmacy didn’t had the drug for sale! If the doctor says it’s okay for consumption; then do it !!! The doctor knows what’s wrong with your relative and he knows what is required !! A banned drugs doesn’t mean it will kill anyone who takes it ! Just that sometimes , the compositions of a drug may not be in-line with government standard and that yet again in some cases doesn’t make the drug harmful to consume!
Seriously bro, I don't know what is wrong with some Nigerians. If your doctor says the drug is good for your father, why would you start doubting him because of what the pharmacy is telling you? The doctor has all the patient's medical records, the pharmacist doesn't. And besides government bans drugs all the time for the flimsiest of reasons. I remember the time they banned most cough syrups because boys were using it to get high.
My advise to this guy is to change the doctor if he doesn't trust his prescription, but I see nothing wrong with it
Re: Is This A Fake Drug? by DanAugust2021: 3:09pm On Jan 23, 2023
LaIabobo:
NAFDAC released an advisory that there are some substandard brands of this drug in circulation.

That doesn't mean all Dexamethasone are fake.

However, this particular brand was part of the substandard ones listed by NAFDAC last year.

Check number 18 on the list below...

https://www.nafdac.gov.ng/public-alert-no-040-2022-alert-on-detection-of-substandard-dexamethasone-products-in-nigeria/
This means the Pharmacist was not entirely true when she said the drug was banned like you pointed out.
Re: Is This A Fake Drug? by ghettochild(m): 3:11pm On Jan 23, 2023
Waakanda:
I used to work in a pharmacy years back. The drug is used for allergic reactions. People buy it a lot for the said purpose. Now, after many years of allowing it to be on the shelf, they banned it. How come they didn't discover what was wrong with it for many years
Naija no dey do adequate drug test...
Re: Is This A Fake Drug? by Kellie069(m): 3:13pm On Jan 23, 2023
thesicilian:

Seriously bro, I don't know what is wrong with some Nigerians. If your doctor says the drug is good for your father, why would you start doubting him because of what the pharmacy is telling you? The doctor has all the patient's medical records, the pharmacist doesn't. And besides government bans drugs all the time for the flimsiest of reasons. I remember the time they banned most cough syrups because boys were using it to get high.
My advise to this guy is to change the doctor if he doesn't trust his prescription, but I see nothing wrong with it


Exactly , funny enough, assuming the pharmacy had that drug in stock , they would have sold it to him without mentioning about it being banned or something!
Re: Is This A Fake Drug? by thesicilian: 3:16pm On Jan 23, 2023
Kellie069:



Exactly , funny enough, assuming the pharmacy had that drug in stock , they would have sold it to him without mentioning about it being banned or something!
Exactly. The same pharmacist would sell a full pack of sleeping drugs to a customer even when the doctor's prescription says 3 or 4 tablets only.

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Re: Is This A Fake Drug? by CaptainFM1: 3:28pm On Jan 23, 2023
shortgun:
This drug Dexamethasone was prescribed by doctors in a Government hospital for my dad, getting to the pharmacy I was told that NAFDAC have stopped pharmacies from selling the drug and confiscated the ones in their warehouses.

I put a call across to the doctor to speak with the pharmacist about the development. After asking the pharmacist when the drug was withdrawn from circulation and other things the doctor insisted I get the drug in another pharmacy that have it in stock, this is after the pharmacist stood her ground that the drug is no longer safe as directed by NAFDAC.
I've gotten the drug but I am still not sure if I should let my dad take it cos of this confusion.
What do you guys think?

Was the doctor prescription in writing? If so, that's enough evidence if you need one for future litigations.

I would always assume doctors know best once I put myself under their care.
Re: Is This A Fake Drug? by Emmasteev(m): 3:33pm On Jan 23, 2023
Don't mind the NDLEA people, It's their greediness that made them to ban the drugs,the was no information whatsoever about the drugs harming someone, but what I learnt about this drugs being banned for circulation is because they haven't renewed their license with NDLEA, This drug is life saver if people used it the way it's prescribed
Re: Is This A Fake Drug? by IjeBos(m): 4:01pm On Jan 23, 2023
Honestly, why are people on this thread who aren't doctor's, pharmacists or don't work in the regulatory agency dispensing information about why this was or wasn't banned? Doctor's aren't infallible. It's your body and your health at the end of the day. The pharmacist's info does raise alarms whether true or not. Research it some more yourself and only listen to people here who actually know, not guessing.

I had a similar experience in the US. A doctor recommended two drugs. The pharmacist filling it warned that there could be adverse affects if taken together. Spoke to a brilliant doctor friend of mine, who said, yeah you could have a heart attack if you had taken them both. She told me to have the doctor prescribe X instead. Spoke to the doctor and he wouldn't acknowledge he made a mistake, but said X was probably a better drug for me. Never saw him again.

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Re: Is This A Fake Drug? by UyaiIncomparabl(f): 4:01pm On Jan 23, 2023
DearGorgeous:
Op listen to the Pharmacist. I've had similar personal experience in the past. The doctor recommended a drug for me to buy at the hospital's pharmacy (a Federal Government Hospital for that matter).

May God bless that pharmacist. She advised me not to buy the recommended drug. I asked why? She told me it causes kidney failure and liver problems. She said it'll surely cure what I was taking it for, but a bigger problem will arise later. She advised that I google the side effects of the drug when I get home. Seeing her deep care and sincerity, I opted for the alternative drug she introduced to me right at the counter. And I was perfectly ok after taking them.

And through to her words, the side effects were very scary. It's an antibiotic. You can't take it before or after a meal. You take it while eating. If you disobey, you face the repercussion immediately. I named it Satanic Drug!

What's the name of the drug, please?
Re: Is This A Fake Drug? by captainking(m): 4:03pm On Jan 23, 2023
DearGorgeous:
Op listen to the Pharmacist. I've had similar personal experience in the past. The doctor recommended a drug for me to buy at the hospital's pharmacy (a Federal Government Hospital for that matter).

May God bless that pharmacist. She advised me not to buy the recommended drug. I asked why? She told me it causes kidney failure and liver problems. She said it'll surely cure what I was taking it for, but a bigger problem will arise later. She advised that I google the side effects of the drug when I get home. Seeing her deep care and sincerity, I opted for the alternative drug she introduced to me right at the counter. And I was perfectly ok after taking them.

And through to her words, the side effects were very scary. It's an antibiotic. You can't take it before or after meal. You take it while eating. If you disobey, you face the repercussion immediately. I named it Satanic Drug!
almost all the drugs we take can cause liver or kidney failure

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Re: Is This A Fake Drug? by KingFrank01: 4:04pm On Jan 23, 2023
shortgun:
This drug Dexamethasone was prescribed by doctors in a Government hospital for my dad, getting to the pharmacy I was told that NAFDAC have stopped pharmacies from selling the drug and confiscated the ones in their warehouses.

I put a call across to the doctor to speak with the pharmacist about the development. After asking the pharmacist when the drug was withdrawn from circulation and other things the doctor insisted I get the drug in another pharmacy that have it in stock, this is after the pharmacist stood her ground that the drug is no longer safe as directed by NAFDAC.
I've gotten the drug but I am still not sure if I should let my dad take it cos of this confusion.
What do you guys think?
pls how much did you get the drug?
Re: Is This A Fake Drug? by DearGorgeous(f): 4:07pm On Jan 23, 2023
UyaiIncomparabl:


What's the real name of the drug, please?

I can't remember the name of that drug, but the Pharmacist replaced it with Chymoral.

So I was administered Erythromycin and Chymoral.

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Re: Is This A Fake Drug? by DearGorgeous(f): 4:08pm On Jan 23, 2023
captainking:

almost all the drugs we take can cause liver or kidney failure

May God help us sha.
Re: Is This A Fake Drug? by cedricksly: 4:17pm On Jan 23, 2023
shortgun:
This drug Dexamethasone was prescribed by doctors in a Government hospital for my dad, getting to the pharmacy I was told that NAFDAC have stopped pharmacies from selling the drug and confiscated the ones in their warehouses.

I put a call across to the doctor to speak with the pharmacist about the development. After asking the pharmacist when the drug was withdrawn from circulation and other things the doctor insisted I get the drug in another pharmacy that have it in stock, this is after the pharmacist stood her ground that the drug is no longer safe as directed by NAFDAC.
I've gotten the drug but I am still not sure if I should let my dad take it cos of this confusion.
What do you guys think?
the drug is safe to use.. The drug is a controlled drug, doesn't mean it is fake or not safe for use.. A controlled drug is a drug that chemist aren't allowed to sell or stock, and pharmacy with license only sell it to medical personnels or strictly based on doctors prescription... The drug is safe to use, no cause for alarm..
Re: Is This A Fake Drug? by jaephoenix(m): 4:28pm On Jan 23, 2023
oka4ugoo:
Doctors from government hospital grin grin grin. Just visit that doctor's private clinic tomorrow and you will be surprised that he will recommend for ur daddy a better different drugs.

You better go back to that pharmacist and ask him or her to give you a better alternative drug because as far as am concern the one you bought na original fake drug.

Aside from surgical operations, I believe pharmacists more than I believe doctors when it comes to drugs that's why with just ur lab result you can visit professional pharmacists (not chemists oo) for drug
This right here is a typical Nigerian, very ignorant but proud in his ignorance.
You want a pharmacist to prescribe a med for a diagnosis s/he didn't make. Really? The pharmacist that doesn't know the disease disease pathology and complications? cheesy
In one fell swoop, you casted all the government doctors into the trash can, but you're forgetting private practice doctors refer patients to government hospitals which include tertiary health institutions like Teaching and Specialist Hospitals. These hospitals are where you have the best professors in the medical field. But somehow, you prefer a pharmacist's prescription to theirs. Or if you have tetanus infection, multiple myeloma etc, you'll rush to a pharmacist? grin
And no, you aren't better off with visiting a pharmacist with lab tests because lab tests does not give the complete picture of a disease. You need a doctor to examine and take history. Some lab tests are plain useless, example is Widal test. Now this test has been abandoned a long time ago but roadside labs still swindle ignorant folks like you to do it, and they tell you your titer is high and prescribe drugs for you that you have typhoid fever. Lol grin
Til now, I still get patients sending me test results like Widal and Malaria parasite test, asking me to prescribe drugs for them. I ignore most of them. Some I take history from them.
About the OP's case, here's what I know.
Dexamethazone is very much a safe drug. We use it in a range of disease like allergies, shock, premature labor etc. What is the issue here is the brand of dexamethazone here which is Xasten. NAFDAC found out Xasten, Destrax, Dexacure etc contain substandard amount of the dexamethazone. Meaning the dexamethazone is not up to 0.5mg in each tab. So, the doctor is right by telling you to get dexamethazone. He doesn't know the actual brand youre buying. The pharmacist is wrong(or maybe you misunderstood him/her) in saying dexamethazone is banned or fake. She should have told the doctor the particular brand is substandard and not tell him dexamethazone is not safe.

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Re: Is This A Fake Drug? by Damieadeh(f): 4:33pm On Jan 23, 2023
I think it was banned because some people use to get weight.

quote author=Waakanda post=120310530]I used to work in a pharmacy years back. The drug is used for allergic reactions. People buy it a lot for the said purpose. Now, after many years of allowing it to be on the shelf, they banned it. How come they didn't discover what was wrong with it for many years [/quote]
Re: Is This A Fake Drug? by jaephoenix(m): 4:38pm On Jan 23, 2023
acewines:



I hate anything government hospital

I bought one drugs there according to the doctor's prescription and they covered the name with paper, after it got finished, I removed it only to see that it's tramadol...

My guy was stooling blood,na so general hospital for gbagada tell am to come back in 2 months time that that's when the specialist will be around.. now judge the matter
Hospitals cover drug names because Nigerians abuse drugs seriously, as in crazy abuse. So they are right, though patient has the right to know the name of the drug s/he is taking.
General and Teaching Hospitals are overbooked. If you have an urgent case, no need going there, just go to a private hospital. In this case your bro was stooling blood, he should have been admitted depending on the severity, but even at that, they are overcrowded. Even today, I sent an emergency case to GH Gbagada, and they bounced them. Same as LUTH and LASUTH. No space

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Re: Is This A Fake Drug? by jaephoenix(m): 4:46pm On Jan 23, 2023
DearGorgeous:
Op listen to the Pharmacist. I've had similar personal experience in the past. The doctor recommended a drug for me to buy at the hospital's pharmacy (a Federal Government Hospital for that matter).

May God bless that pharmacist. She advised me not to buy the recommended drug. I asked why? She told me it causes kidney failure and liver problems. She said it'll surely cure what I was taking it for, but a bigger problem will arise later. She advised that I google the side effects of the drug when I get home. Seeing her deep care and sincerity, I opted for the alternative drug she introduced to me right at the counter. And I was perfectly ok after taking them.

And through to her words, the side effects were very scary. It's an antibiotic. You can't take it before or after meal. You take it while eating. If you disobey, you face the repercussion immediately. I named it Satanic Drug!
Lol. This is seriously funny. A pharmacist told you not to take a drug because it causes kidney failure, and you disobeyed your doctor? Please you should have asked that pharmacist which drugs doesn't have organ failure as a side effect?
The truth is all drugs are poison. And that includes the pills, herbs, agbo etc. Anything that alters the body physiology is a drug. The paracetamol y'all abuse causes liver failure. The ibuprofen/ibucap/diclofenac causes kidney failure. Does it mean if you take it according to doc prescription you'll have organ failure? No! First thing, the doc won't prescribe it if you already have an organ failure, and if he does, it is for short period and he has weighed the pros outweighs the cons.

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Re: Is This A Fake Drug? by jaephoenix(m): 4:51pm On Jan 23, 2023
mignone:

Same way they discouraged us from using chloroquine for malaria, instead they introduced a athemeter nonsense so people will have to keep coming back to buy meds.
Another ignorant Nigerian gladly displaying ignorance.
Chloroquine was discouraged because y'all Nigerians abused the hell out of it, causing the malaria to be resistant to it. It became almost useless. Now even the artemether lumefantrine combination is not effective because you guys have still abused the hell out of it.
Patients just meet me 'Doctor i want to treat malaria, I have treated it for 2 years' or they say 'Doctor, mosquitoes bit me yesterday, I want to treat malaria'.Even after advising them not to take antimalarials, they still ignore me and take it. Same issue we see for antibiotics.
Are you now blaming WHO for your stupidity?

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Re: Is This A Fake Drug? by LagBlogger(m): 4:59pm On Jan 23, 2023
Kellie069:
Doctor said you should buy! Pharmacist said the drugs has been banned by govt !! Probably because the pharmacy didn’t had the drug for sale! If the doctor says it’s okay for consumption; then do it !!! The doctor knows what’s wrong with your relative and he knows what is required !! A banned drugs doesn’t mean it will kill anyone who takes it ! Just that sometimes , the compositions of a drug may not be in-line with government standard and that yet again in some cases doesn’t make the drug harmful to consume!

Don't kill someone with bad advise. A pharmacist is in a better position than a doctor to say which drug should not.be used. Doctors know more about ailments than pharmacists but not the other way round when it comes to drugs.
Re: Is This A Fake Drug? by LagBlogger(m): 5:05pm On Jan 23, 2023
jaephoenix:

Lol. This is seriously funny. A pharmacist told you not to take a drug because it causes kidney failure, and you disobeyed your doctor? Please you should have asked that pharmacist which drugs doesn't have organ failure as a side effect?
The truth is all drugs are poison. And that includes the pills, herbs, agbo etc. Anything that alters the body physiology is a drug. The paracetamol y'all abuse causes liver failure. The ibuprofen/ibucap/diclofenac causes kidney failure. Does it mean if you take it according to doc prescription you'll have organ failure? No! First thing, the doc won't prescribe it if you already have an organ failure, and if he does, it is for short period and he has weighed the pros outweighs the cons.

It is not funny because some doctors are incompetent and yes pharmacists know drugs better than doctors.

All drugs have side effects but their side effects varies. Some are mild while others are strong.

Avoid drugs with strong side effects because the doctor will not be able to save you nor will he accept blame when the worst happens.

Don't give people this type of advise as you are not qualified to give it.

It is life we are talking about here not merely an ailment.

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Re: Is This A Fake Drug? by DearGorgeous(f): 5:07pm On Jan 23, 2023
jaephoenix:

Lol. This is seriously funny. A pharmacist told you not to take a drug because it causes kidney failure, and you disobeyed your doctor? Please you should have asked that pharmacist which drugs doesn't have organ failure as a side effect?
The truth is all drugs are poison. And that includes the pills, herbs, agbo etc. Anything that alters the body physiology is a drug. The paracetamol y'all abuse causes liver failure. The ibuprofen/ibucap/diclofenac causes kidney failure. Does it mean if you take it according to doc prescription you'll have organ failure? No! First thing, the doc won't prescribe it if you already have an organ failure, and if he does, it is for short period and he has weighed the pros outweighs the cons.

Bros, I am happy I didn't take that antibiotic, abeg. And I'm grateful for the Pharmacist that advised me.

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Re: Is This A Fake Drug? by Rocktation(f): 5:10pm On Jan 23, 2023
Kellie069:
Doctor said you should buy! Pharmacist said the drugs has been banned by govt !! Probably because the pharmacy didn’t had the drug for sale! If the doctor says it’s okay for consumption; then do it !!! The doctor knows what’s wrong with your relative and he knows what is required !! A banned drugs doesn’t mean it will kill anyone who takes it ! Just that sometimes , the compositions of a drug may not be in-line with government standard and that yet again in some cases doesn’t make the drug harmful to consume!

This!
Given my experience with Nigerian business owners, I can agree that it's mostly because the pharmacist does not have the said drug.
Re: Is This A Fake Drug? by Nobody: 5:13pm On Jan 23, 2023
jaephoenix:

Hospitals cover drug names because Nigerians abuse drugs seriously, as in crazy abuse. So they are right, though patient has the right to know the name of the drug s/he is taking.
General and Teaching Hospitals are overbooked. If you have an urgent case, no need going there, just go to a private hospital. In this case your bro was stooling blood, he should have been admitted depending on the severity, but even at that, they are overcrowded. Even today, I sent an emergency case to GH Gbagada, and they bounced them. Same as LUTH and LASUTH. No space

This is not about overcrowding or something

Had an accident and I was bleeding from my right ear, I went to GH gbagada and I given a card with 2months appointment date, as it wasn't that serious like b4 I waited for the time to come, I went back there and I was given another 1month and I asked,she said the ENT isn't available for now, 1 month came, she gave the 3rd date,tho 2weeks. I left the 2 weeks came I went to the place I was asked to stay, some minutes later she came in and said they have reached the number of people (18) that the specialist could see for the day out of annoyance,I told her how I've been posted severally, she gave a nonchalant comment, I threw the card over the canter to where she sat and stormed out, I left the hospital,5mins later my phone rang and I answered, only for the person to tell me to come back that she has written my name there.. I didn't answer her but to apologize for my actions earlier and I haven't gone to any hospital to check on my ear.. still hearing a little bit of noise inside it

When I'm chanced will visit the military hospital for yaba
Re: Is This A Fake Drug? by jaephoenix(m): 5:15pm On Jan 23, 2023
LagBlogger:


It is not funny because some doctors are incompetent and yes pharmacists know drugs better than doctors.

All drugs have side effects but their side effects varies. Some are mild while others are strong.

Avoid drugs with strong side effects because the doctor will not be able to save you nor will he accept blame when the worst happens.

Don't give people medical advise you are not qualified to give because it is life we are talking about here not merely an ailment.
The same way we have incompetent docs is the same way we have incompetent pharmacies. Like in this OP's case, the pharmacist is incompetent because s/he said dexamethasone is banned when it was actually the brand Xasten that was banned/substandard.
YES we know the side effects of drugs before prescriptions and we anticipate them,in fact,we use the side effect as therapeutic use. If I have a hypertensive with poor sleep, that has catarrh, I would prefer chlorpheniramine to loratidine as an anticatarrh because of it is has a more sedative effect
Re: Is This A Fake Drug? by jaephoenix(m): 5:16pm On Jan 23, 2023
DearGorgeous:


Bros, I am happy I didn't take that antibiotic, abeg. And I'm grateful for the Pharmacist that advised me.
Whatever rocks your boat.
The antibiotic wasn't dangerous, you are too gullible
Re: Is This A Fake Drug? by jaephoenix(m): 5:21pm On Jan 23, 2023
acewines:


This is not about overcrowding or something

Had an accident and I was bleeding from my right ear, I went to GH gbagada and I given a card with 2months appointment date, as it wasn't that serious like b4 I waited for the time to come, I went back there and I was given another 1month and I asked,she said the ENT isn't available for now, 1 month came, she gave the 3rd date,tho 2weeks. I left the 2 weeks came I went to the place I was asked to stay, some minutes later she came in and said they have reached the number of people (18) that the specialist could see for the day out of annoyance,I told her how I've been posted severally, she gave a nonchalant comment, I threw the card over the canter to where she sat and stormed out, I left the hospital,5mins later my phone rang and I answered, only for the person to tell me to come back that she has written my name there.. I didn't answer her but to apologize for my actions earlier and I haven't gone to any hospital to check on my ear.. still hearing a little bit of noise inside it

When I'm chanced will visit the military hospital for yaba
Its the same thing we're saying, overcrowding. If the capacities were enlarged and more doctors employed,do you think there would be crowds and postponements(like you had)? In advanced countries, you'll easily see doctors, but you pay through your nose.
I think why they called you back was that the ENT specialist heard about your postponements and decided to take your case out of pity. These specialists usually do rounds after the clinic, so they have to leave that clinic early
Re: Is This A Fake Drug? by Nobody: 5:31pm On Jan 23, 2023
jaephoenix:

Its the same thing we're saying, overcrowding. If the capacities were enlarged and more doctors employed,do you think there would be crowds and postponements(like you had)? In advanced countries, you'll easily see doctors, but you pay through your nose.
I think why they called you back was that the ENT specialist heard about your postponements and decided to take your case out of pity. These specialists usually do rounds after the clinic, so they have to leave that clinic early

Ok

But as big as that place is plus the empty lands at the back, I think they should expand or employ more

What if it's something serious, anyways I think the op needs to find an alternative to the medication
Re: Is This A Fake Drug? by Nobody: 5:34pm On Jan 23, 2023
This should help

Op

Re: Is This A Fake Drug? by Jeffy1206(m): 5:37pm On Jan 23, 2023
People use it for weight gain and some other things... Story short, they're abusing this drug a lot.

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Re: Is This A Fake Drug? by Nobody: 5:39pm On Jan 23, 2023
shortgun:
This drug Dexamethasone was prescribed by doctors in a Government hospital for my dad, getting to the pharmacy I was told that NAFDAC have stopped pharmacies from selling the drug and confiscated the ones in their warehouses.

I put a call across to the doctor to speak with the pharmacist about the development. After asking the pharmacist when the drug was withdrawn from circulation and other things the doctor insisted I get the drug in another pharmacy that have it in stock, this is after the pharmacist stood her ground that the drug is no longer safe as directed by NAFDAC.
I've gotten the drug but I am still not sure if I should let my dad take it cos of this confusion.
What do you guys think?

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