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The Implication Of The Osun Election Tribunal And The Anarchy It May Cause by Brendaniel: 1:33am On Jan 28, 2023
After finding out the method used for the judgement on the election tribunal that gave victory to Oyetola over Adeleke, I would say it is a recipe for disaster, the method applied was cancelling all the votes of a polling unit because of over voting in that particular polling unit.


The questions I ask are:

1. As it happened that there were over voting in various polling units in the Osun election, what if each opposition connives to perpetrate over voting in polling units in each opposition strong holds?

2. What then is the use for BVAS in over voting if after the BVAS is able to identify the number of over votes only to end up cancelling all votes(valid) and over votes(invalid)?

3. If there is an election tribunal like this and a rerun takes place, what if the same over voting keeps occurring over and over, would they keep repeating the election tribunal process and back to rerun again?

In my opinion, the law is just an error or a purposeful scheme to rig an election using what I call reverse voting
Just simply tamper with your opposition strong holds and invalidate their votes, So we might be having a case where a carefully selected and protected minority will determine winners of an election instead of the majority carrying the votes.


Implications:

1. It will make elections become very dirty because politicians will be all about scheming to invalidate votes in opposition strong holds.

2. It will make the voters lose confidence in the electoral process, because a voter will not be sure if his vote will be invalidated or not by someone else scheming with a politician in his/her polling unit.

3. It will make voters wear out easily and may cause voter apathy when you have reruns after stressful elections, thereby reducing voters turn-up in reruns.

4. It may not reflect the true will of the people and also reduce the total number of voter participation, just like the Osun election tribunal, the total number of votes cast for both PDP and APC after the cancellation doesn't reflect the true will of the people to declare Oyetola the winner.

5. Elections will cost more because of Tribunal, reruns and time wasting.

6. It could lead to anarchy and total chaos, like in some volatile states in the north where they riot over political results, just imagine after election and INEC says they have cancelled over 20,000 polling units across the north which were all stronghold of a particular candidate, because of over voting of less than 2000 voters, imagine what will happen in the aftermath of such news.

Solution:

In situations of over voting, Why not just deduct the invalid votes(over votes) and count the rest, the BVAS already identifies the number of over votes(invalid votes), doing so, INEC will avoid a lot of election tribunals, scheming by politicians, reduce cost of doing reruns, make more accurate results, increase voters confidence, reduce time wasting, reflect the true will of the people and avoid anarchy.

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Re: The Implication Of The Osun Election Tribunal And The Anarchy It May Cause by SultanOfPuna: 2:06am On Jan 28, 2023
Davido lost his son
Sen. Adekeke lost his mandate
Must be tough for the Adeleke family
May God give them strength

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Re: The Implication Of The Osun Election Tribunal And The Anarchy It May Cause by Bragalane: 2:13am On Jan 28, 2023
Your solution expose why your idea should not be accepted by well meaning Nigerians.

A crime as been committed and those involved should be severely punished in this case the INEC official that supervised the fraud of bypassing BVAS n allowing over voting.

The next is the motive who does the over voting favour if they have been allowed to get away with it ? This is what police use on unraveling murder case across the globe.

The person should also be punished. BVAS from this election as proven to be beta than INEC explained in the sense that it detected the over voting thay as always been the bane of Nigeria election.

If iNEC personal never tampered with election result there will be no contradicting # of voters.. The right n only solution is for iNEC to have trustworthy official manning every polling both. If that is not possible considering the greed by Nigerians n fact that politicains will pay whatever to have results manipulated, every polling unit with manipulated result should be discarded total.

While this may seem harsh it should be noted that each party as an agent monitoring procedure. For Adeleke to manipulate in various center both the APC n PDP officials representing at their party and the electoral official must have been compromised and should be jailed to deter others.



Brendaniel:

Solution:
In situations of over voting, Why not just deduct the invalid votes(over votes) and count the rest, the BVAS already identifies the number of over votes(invalid votes), doing so, INEC will avoid a lot of election tribunals, scheming by politicians, reduce cost of doing reruns, make more accurate results, increase voters confidence, reduce time wasting, reflect the true will of the people and avoid anarchy.


Brendaniel post=120437606:

Please can you explain why?

. Done

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Re: The Implication Of The Osun Election Tribunal And The Anarchy It May Cause by mtngloetiartel: 2:23am On Jan 28, 2023
Pls make your point clear. You sound unintelligent
Bragalane:
Your solution expose why your idea should not be accepted by well meaning Nigerians.



Re: The Implication Of The Osun Election Tribunal And The Anarchy It May Cause by Brendaniel: 2:30am On Jan 28, 2023
Bragalane:
Your solution expose why your idea should not be accepted by well meaning Nigerians.




Please can you explain why?

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Re: The Implication Of The Osun Election Tribunal And The Anarchy It May Cause by ipobarecriminals: 2:41am On Jan 28, 2023
grin undecided Which anarchy E go cause angry .The 2 months spelling Bee governor is a gonna for good. He go dance back to US grin.Nonsense angry

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Re: The Implication Of The Osun Election Tribunal And The Anarchy It May Cause by Ancestortinubu: 2:41am On Jan 28, 2023
Oyetola is wasting his time. Supreme court will not repeat imo drama. Besides APC will exit power in 2023 before the Supreme Court judgment will come. The joy of batstad urchins is shortlived.
Re: The Implication Of The Osun Election Tribunal And The Anarchy It May Cause by Brendaniel: 2:42am On Jan 28, 2023
Bragalane:
Your solution expose why your idea should not be accepted by well meaning Nigerians.

A crime as been committed and those involved should be severely punished in this case the INEC official that supervised the fraud of bypassing BVAS n allowing over voting.

The next is the motive who does the over voting favour if they have been allowed to get away with it ? This is what police use on unraveling murder case across the globe.

The person should also be punished. BVAS from this election as proven to be beta than INEC explained in the sense that it detected the over voting thay as always been the bane of Nigeria election.

If iNEC personal never tampered with election result there will be no contradicting # of voters.. The right n only solution is for iNEC to have trustworthy official manning every polling both. If that is not possible considering the greed by Nigerians n fact that politicains will pay whatever to have results manipulated, every polling unit with manipulated result should be discarded total.

While this may souls harsh it should be noted that each party as an agent monitoring procedure. For Adeleke to manipulate in various center both the APC n PDP officials representing at the party and the electoral official must have been compromised and should be jailed to deter others.



. Done

this does not solve the problem because politicians will scheme, just what if it was APC who connived with the INEC officials in those polling units knowing it PDP's stronghold to cause over voting just to cancel the polling unit to favour APC, you see why the polling unit cancellation is flawed.

With BVAS anyone who does over voting, the vote will be invalid and deleted after proper verification while the valid votes will still be counted, it will discourage anyone from trying to scheme or do over voting because in the end it will be a total waste of time and resources...

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Re: The Implication Of The Osun Election Tribunal And The Anarchy It May Cause by christistruth01: 4:01am On Jan 28, 2023
It will not cause any Anarchy

The case will go to the Supreme court and Osun State will be peaceful

Overvoting should be deducted everywhere not only in the winners Strongholds they should be deducted in opposition strongholds too

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Re: The Implication Of The Osun Election Tribunal And The Anarchy It May Cause by loffyloffy: 6:03am On Jan 28, 2023
Brendaniel:


this does not solve the problem because politicians will scheme, just what if it was APC who connived with the INEC officials in those polling units knowing it PDP's stronghold to cause over voting just to cancel the polling unit to favour APC, you see why the polling unit cancellation is flawed.

Your logics is amazing..

You mean APC instead of pushing to win the election by encouraging their supporters to vote for them, will instead use those supporters to be causing over voting at 700 polling units, that they don't even know whether they will win or lose?

Let's assume they deploy 100 people per unit to achieve this(and they will need more, possibly 400 per unit to guarantee over voting)

That is at least 70,000 votes wasted on over voting...enough margin to win the election.

This your logic is made in Alaba

With BVAS anyone who does over voting, the vote will be invalid and deleted after proper verification while the valid votes will still be counted, it will discourage anyone from trying to scheme or do over voting because in the end it will be a total waste of time and resources...
Re: The Implication Of The Osun Election Tribunal And The Anarchy It May Cause by SmartPolician: 6:09am On Jan 28, 2023
I'm afraid the first and second points you made wouldn't let me read the rest of the piece because it shows you don't even understand what you are writing about.

Your #1 is impossible because parties that have a structure also have party agents that monitor their votes. What happened in Osun is a situation where INEC and PDP agents connived to alter the true results of the election. Now, it has backfired.

#2 shows that you don't know how BVAS works. To be fair, I will mention you in a comment I explained it.

Good morning.

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Re: The Implication Of The Osun Election Tribunal And The Anarchy It May Cause by DesChyko: 6:43am On Jan 28, 2023
Bragalane:

A crime as been committed and those involved should be severely punished in this case the INEC official that supervised the fraud of bypassing BVAS n allowing over voting.

Firstly, some heads should roll without mercy. That's when we know we are serious


Well done! 👌
Re: The Implication Of The Osun Election Tribunal And The Anarchy It May Cause by Shifi1: 6:44am On Jan 28, 2023
Please educate us how they uter the results
Re: The Implication Of The Osun Election Tribunal And The Anarchy It May Cause by Bragalane: 7:08am On Jan 28, 2023
You then need to ask if BVAS capture what party each individual voted, if it does not how do you sort valid n BVAS verified vote from the invalid vote that led to over voting ?



Brendaniel:

this does not solve the problem because politicians will scheme, just what if it was APC who connived with the INEC officials in those polling units knowing it PDP's stronghold to cause over voting just to cancel the polling unit to favour APC, you see why the polling unit cancellation is flawed.

With BVAS anyone who does over voting, the vote will be invalid and deleted after proper verification while the valid votes will still be counted, it will discourage anyone from trying to scheme or do over voting because in the end it will be a total waste of time and resources...

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Re: The Implication Of The Osun Election Tribunal And The Anarchy It May Cause by Brendaniel: 8:26am On Jan 28, 2023
Bragalane:
You then need to ask if BVAS capture what party each individual voted, if it does not how do you sort valid n BVAS verified vote from the invalid vote that led to over voting ?




You guys are so focused on the party that the over votes went for, that is not even the concern here, the BVAS identifies votes that were not accredited with the BVAS, it does not matter who the person, in fact we don't want to know who the over votes went, just delete the over votes because it was not accredited.

This is not party matter, invalid votes is invalid votes, just remove it and count the rest, we don't care who the invalid votes were for, the main purpose of the BVAS was to do that in the first place .

If you cancel the entire polling unit, that is like throwing away a baby with the bath water when you can simply remove the baby and throw away the bath water...
Re: The Implication Of The Osun Election Tribunal And The Anarchy It May Cause by okeysoninv: 8:33am On Jan 28, 2023
I agreed with the op. This people are actually preparing for anarchy in the land . Even if there is case of over voting why not remove the over votes example; accredited register have 500 and over vote 550. is it better to remove 50 votes that incur from over voting than total cancellation of entire vote. these evil people knows what they are doing.
Re: The Implication Of The Osun Election Tribunal And The Anarchy It May Cause by Bragalane: 9:15am On Jan 28, 2023
And those that perpetuate the fraud should be allowed to smile to the bank so how will that deter such criminalities on the future.


Brendaniel:


You guys are so focused on the party that the over votes went for, that is not even the concern here, the BVAS identifies votes that were not accredited with the BVAS, it does not matter who the person, in fact we don't want to know who the over votes went, just delete the over votes because it was not accredited.

This is not party matter, invalid votes is invalid votes, just remove it and count the rest, we don't care who the invalid votes were for, the main purpose of the BVAS was to do that in the first place .

If you cancel the entire polling unit, that is like throwing away a baby with the bath water when you can simply remove the baby and throw away the bath water...
Re: The Implication Of The Osun Election Tribunal And The Anarchy It May Cause by Brendaniel: 9:22am On Jan 28, 2023
Bragalane:
And those that perpetuate the fraud should be allowed to smile to the bank so how will that deter such criminalities on the future.



how are they smiling to the bank with valid votes, the valid votes should count, that is my point...
Re: The Implication Of The Osun Election Tribunal And The Anarchy It May Cause by Brendaniel: 12:13pm On Jan 28, 2023
SmartPolician:
I'm afraid the first and second points you made wouldn't let me read the rest of the piece because it shows you don't even understand what you are writing about.

Your #1 is impossible because parties that have a structure also have party agents that monitor their votes. What happened in Osun is a situation where INEC and PDP agents connived to alter the true results of the election. Now, it has backfired.

#2 shows that you don't know how BVAS works. To be fair, I will mention you in a comment I explained it.

Good morning.

Oga your explanation is very wrong .....

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