Dtruthspeaker:


And for many of them, their colour tone is not like the Africans in Africa. Not to talk of the age old crime of polygamy and secret children and children born by prostitutes.

Again what are you talking about?

There are African Americans darker than Africans so what is your point?

OgaNightmare:
■ Jude even qoutes the book of Enoch directly and make several allusions to it
■ Apostle Paul also tapped from it, he got his idea of the seven heavens from there. Just that Enoch did not make it into the present Bible Cannon.
■ Moreover none of this books are what this evangelicals claim it to be. It's just full of oral tradition, tales and revisionist history

1. Jude did not quote the book as he instead mentioned Enoch directly.

2. Paul may have gotten his idea from there or may have not. There is no direct correlation between Paul's claim and what is written in the book. Also, Paul was not dealing with the Canons during his time..

3. So?

1Sharon:
■You can ask your God all those questions If the book was not legitimate, why would Jesus reference it?

Jesus Christ did not reference the book. You cannot conclude the book was referenced simply on grounds of similar phrase used in both statements

1Sharon:



You can ask your God all those questions

If the book was not legitimate, why would Jesus reference it?

and Jesus told you he was referencing it 🐒

1Sharon:

Again what are you talking about?

There are African Americans darker than Africans so what is your point?

You have gotten my point which is we have seen how variation naturally occurs eg Chike's parents are black but chike is albino fair. He goes abroad and gets fairer (white). He has sex with a white girl, now a white chike is born.

Dtruthspeaker:


You have gotten my point which is we have seen how variation naturally occurs eg Chike's parents are black but chike is albino fair. He goes abroad and gets fairer (white). He has sex with a white girl, now a white chike is born.

An albino is still a black person. No matter how long a black person stays abroad they can never turn white. Just stop.

1Sharon:


An albino is still a black person. No matter how long a black person stays abroad they can never turn white. Just stop.

That is what you choose to call him, we don't care. All we see is a human different from us. And chike's son from a white woman will be white

ctec:
But according to Scriptures Adam and Eve were the only people God created, the rest came from them. Except the animals and spirit beings like the fallen angels who were present on the earth at that time.

When you read fairy tales, you're bound to figure out many loopholes, especially if you actually believe it happened. I dont believe Snow White and the seven dwarves happened. I just take it as a fairy but if I believed it actually happened, then I'll be stuck in a rut because there are many loopholes and lies I have to come to terms with.
The Bible is a big fairy tale

Kobojunkie:
It is listed in the story that Adam and Eve had more then 2 kids. Check it yourself.

The kids came way after Cain left them. Besides Cain was much older than them, and they couldn't have hurt him, even if they tried.
Talk another lie

Kobojunkie:
God made him a wanderer does not mean he will only run into strangers. If you read the story, he is written to have settled down, even built a city for himself.

Whoa. Built a whole city alone? Whoa. This is better than Snow White and the 7 Dwarves

Dtruthspeaker:


Cain married his sister, that means that they were more than 4 people.

Whats her name? Even if it happened, are you saying Yahweh endorsed incest?

Dtruthspeaker:


And for many of them, their colour tone is not like the Africans in Africa. Not to talk of the age old crime of polygamy and secret children and children born by prostitutes.

Sorry youre wrong. Some African Americans are even darker than Nigerians.
And what has prostitute babies got to do with skin colors?

1Sharon:



Again what are you talking about?

There are African Americans darker than Africans so what is your point?

Dtruthspeaker lives in alternate science

Dtruthspeaker:


You have gotten my point which is we have seen how variation naturally occurs eg Chike's parents are black but chike is albino fair. He goes abroad and gets fairer (white). He has sex with a white girl, now a white chike is born.

Bro, albinism is an autosomal recessive trait, meaning that a child has to get 2 copies of the gene that causes albinism (1 from each parent) to have the condition. If both parents carry the gene, there's a 1 in 4 chance that their child will have albinism and a 1 in 2 chance that their child will be a carrier. Even an albino can have very dark babies, and occasionally have albino babies along the line. But they can't all be albinos. Never.
Bro, you keep on exhibiting poor grasp of basic biology every time you open your mouth

1Sharon:


An albino is still a black person. No matter how long a black person stays abroad they can never turn white. Just stop.

Lol. Dude has his own version of biology, taught by his pastor

Dtruthspeaker:


That is what you choose to call him, we don't care. All we see is a human different from us. And chike's son from a white woman will be white

Lol

Dtruthspeaker:


That is what you choose to call him, we don't care. All we see is a human different from us. And chike's son from a white woman will be white

I'll leave you to wallow in your ignorance.

gohf:
and Jesus told you he was referencing it 🐒

You don read your Bible so? 🤡

Kobojunkie:
1. Jude did not quote the book as he instead mentioned Enoch directly.

2. Paul may have gotten his idea from there or may have not. There is no direct correlation between Paul's claim and what is written in the book. Also, Paul was not dealing with the Canons during his time..

3. So?

He had to be doing something right to be mentioned, so why didn't Enoch make the Canon?

ctec:
But according to Scriptures Adam and Eve were the only people God created, the rest came from them. Except the animals and spirit beings like the fallen angels who were present on the earth at that time.

Adam was the first man created.
But not the only creature..

1Sharon:


I'll leave you to wallow in your ignorance.

You are the one ignoring what is clearly in front of you.

Dtruthspeaker:


You are the one ignoring what is clearly in front of you.

What is in front of her?

1Sharon:
You don read your Bible so? 🤡

Have you actually ever read the Book of Enoch for your own self either? The very context from which those partials which you supposedly matched to the statements made by Jesus Christ are lifted from says you haven't.

jaephoenix:

What is in front of her?

Please ask him again 🤣

1Sharon:
He had to be doing something right to be mentioned, so why didn't Enoch make the Canon?

I don't know or care about the Canons but I know why I would not quote from the book of Enoch as boldly as you pretend you can. For one, much of what is available in the writings are fragments. Also, when you clearly compare the passage below from which you earlier claimed Jesus Christ partially quoted, to the context of the sermon on the mount, where Jesus Christ spoke His teachings to the people, you will find that the messages do not resonate in any way.

5.1 Contemplate how the trees are covered with green leaves and bear fruit. And understand, in respect of everything, and perceive how He Who Lives Forever made all these things for you.
5.2 And how His works are before Him in each succeeding year, and all His works serve Him and do not change; but as God has decreed - so everything is done.
5.3 And consider how the seas and rivers together complete their tasks.
5.4 But you have not persevered in, nor observed, the Law of the Lord. But you have transgressed and have spoken proud and hard words with your unclean mouth against his majesty. You hard of heart! You will not have peace!
5.5 And because of this you will curse your days, and the years of your life you will destroy. And the eternal curse will increase and you will not receive mercy.
5.6 In those days, you will transform your name into an eternal curse to all the righteous. And they will curse you sinners forever.
5.7 For the chosen; there will be light, joy, and peace, and they will inherit the earth. But for you, the impious, there will be a curse.
5.8 When wisdom is given to the chosen they will all live, and will not again do wrong, either through forgetfulness, or through pride. But those who possess wisdom will be humble.
5.9 They will not again do wrong, and they will not be judged in all the days of their life, and they will not die of wrath or anger. But they will complete the number of the days of their life. And their life will grow in peace, and the years of their joy will increase in gladness and eternal peace; all the days of their life. - Enoch 5 vs 1- 9

There is no real point of connection to be found between the two messages except for the fact that similar terms are used here are there.

1 When Jesus saw the crowds of people there, he went up on a hill and sat down. His followers came and sat next to him.
2 Then Jesus began teaching the people. He said,
3 “Great blessings belong to those who know they are spiritually in need. God’s kingdom belongs to them.
4 Great blessings belong to those who are sad now. God will comfort them.
5 Great blessings belong to those who are humble. They will be given the land God promised.
6 Great blessings belong to those who want to do right more than anything else. God will fully satisfy them.
7 Great blessings belong to those who show mercy to others. Mercy will be given to them.
8 Great blessings belong to those whose thoughts are pure. They will be with God.
9 Great blessings belong to those who work to bring peace. God will call them his sons and daughters.
10 Great blessings belong to those who suffer persecution for doing what is right. God’s kingdom belongs to them. - Matthew 5 vs 1 - 10

The writings in the book of Enoch seem generalized in their address of the righteous and the unrighteous, and it does not make any clear identification of whether it speaks of those who are on the earth or those who are instead of the Kingdom of God --- no clearly established context for the message contained.

Personally, I approach the message in the book of Enoch same way I do the Gospel of Thomas, carefully. The general law stipulated in both the Law of Moses and the Gospel regarding how to attend to all matters of Truth dictates that a truth(each case considered on its' own) is only established when there is a supporting claim made of it by another witness of the same.

ODU-DU-IWA. ODU IS THE WAY. DU IS THE TRUTH. IWA MEANING CHARACTER IS THE LIFE. ODUDUWA WAS CONTEMPORANEOUS WITH ADAM. ADAM WAS REORDERED IN CHRIST JESUS THE WAY THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE. ODU-DU-IWA REMAINS CONSTANT. NO SHAKING. THE INCIDENT OF CAIN IS DIFFERENTLY FATHOMED IN IFA OF ODU-DU-IWA.

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orisa37:
ODU-DU-IWA. ODU IS THE WAY. DU IS THE TRUTH. IWA MEANING CHARACTER IS THE LIFE. ODUDUWA WAS CONTEMPORANEOUS WITH ADAM. ADAM WAS REORDERED IN CHRIST JESUS THE WAY THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE. ODU-DU-IWA REMAINS CONSTANT. NO SHAKING. THE INCIDENT OF CAIN IS DIFFERENTLY FATHOMED IN IFA OF ODU-DU-IWA.

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THE FLYING SPAGHETTI MONSTER IS THE WAY. HE IS THE GREATEST

jaephoenix:

THE FLYING SPAGHETTI MONSTER IS THE WAY. HE IS THE GREATEST

I LIKE THAT.