When Cain Said Anyone Who Finds Him Will Kill Him, Who Are Those He Was Referring To? Let's Discuss.

https://wtpforum.com/Thread-When-Cain-Said-Anyone-Who-Finds-Him-Will-Kill-Him-Who-Was-He-Referring-To

I'm always asking the same question, they were only 4 people in the whole world then

Ancient aliens.

Adam and Eve were not the only people God created!!

Adam had sets of twins!

fman:
Adam and Eve were not the only people God created!!

But according to Scriptures Adam and Eve were the only people God created, the rest came from them. Except the animals and spirit beings like the fallen angels who were present on the earth at that time.

ctec:
But according to Scriptures Adam and Eve were the only people God created, the rest came from them. Except the animals and spirit beings like the fallen angels who were present on the earth at that time.

Who among those who existed at the time would more than likely take issue with the fact that Cain was not himself killed for the crime that he committed? Strangers or family members?

Kobojunkie:
Who among those who existed at the time would more than likely take issue with the fact that Cain was not himself killed for the crime that he committed? Strangers or family members?

and who were the strangers you might likely be referring to?

mysticwarrior:
and who were the strangers you might likely be referring to?

The story does not mention the existence of these strangers you assume. Instead, it only mentions Cain's family, the ones most likely to go after Cain for the sin he committed against them..

Kobojunkie:
The story does not mention the existence of these strangers you assume. Instead, it only mentions Cain's family, the ones most likely to go after Cain for the sin he committed against them..

who were the members of Cain's family that was most likely to go after him after he killed his brother?

mysticwarrior:
who were the members of Cain's family that was most likely to go after him after he killed his brother?

It is listed in the story that Adam and Eve had more then 2 kids. Check it yourself.

Kobojunkie:
Who among those who existed at the time would more than likely take issue with the fact that Cain was not himself killed for the crime that he committed? Strangers or family members?

if you read Gen 4:13-14, you'll see that Cain Said that God banished him from the land and he'll be a wanderer, so he was referring to the strangers he will meet while wandering the earth and not his family members.

ctec:
if you read Gen 4:13-14, you'll see that Cain Said that God banished him from the land and he'll be a wanderer, so he was referring to the strangers he will meet while wandering the earth and not his family members.

God made him a wanderer does not mean he will only run into strangers. If you read the story, he is written to have settled down, even built a city for himself.

Other descendants of Adam!

MaxInDHouse:
Other descendants of Adam!

Which are?

ctec:
But according to Scriptures Adam and Eve were the only people God created, the rest came from them. Except the animals and spirit beings like the fallen angels who were present on the earth at that time.

Your Bible is incomplete.


The book of Enoch confirms Adam and Eve weren't alone.


Before you turn around to say "Enoch is non-canonical" Jesus himself referenced the book.

So much for the "word of God".

1Sharon:
Your Bible is incomplete. The book of Enoch confirms Adam and Eve weren't alone. Before you turn around to say "Enoch is non-canonical" Jesus himself referenced the book. So much for the "word of God".

Jesus Christ never referenced the book of Enoch.

Also, where in the book of Enoch is it written that Adam and Eve were not alone?

Kobojunkie:
Jesus Christ never referenced the book of Enoch.

Also, where in the book of Enoch is it written that Adam and Eve were not alone?

Mathew 5:5
“Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth”. Then Enoch 5:7 (6:9) says “The elect shall possess light, joy, and peace, and they shall inherit the earth”.

John 5:22
“The Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the son”. Then in Enoch 69:27 (68:39) says “The principal part of the judgment was assigned to him, the son of man”



Even Jude:

Jude 14-15
“And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousand of his saints, to execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken”.


Enoch 1:7, it is written “And behold! He had cometh with ten thousands of his holy ones to execute judgment upon all, and to destroy all the ungodly, and to convict all flesh of all the works of their ungodliness which they have ungodly committed, and of all the hard things which ungodly sinners have spoken against him”.

There was no Adam and Eve at the time of Enoch lol
Does Enoch predate genesis yes or no?

1Sharon:

Which are?

Those to be born and grow to adulthood within less than 1,000 year of their lifespan back then, Cain don't know how long he will live because back then none of them looks old or weak so Cain is scared of other children of his father who may decide to avenge the death of their brother Abel.
Remember that later generations do avenge on what a tribe did to their ancestors so what do you think such avengers would have done if the person that wronged them is still alive?

ctec:
When Cain Said Anyone Who Finds Him Will Kill Him, Who Are Those He Was Referring To? Let's Discuss.

https://wtpforum.com/Thread-When-Cain-Said-Anyone-Who-Finds-Him-Will-Kill-Him-Who-Was-He-Referring-To

This is where you easily see that God's Law of "do unto others what you want done to you", is in force!

When you cheat, you shall be cheated upon; when you steal, you shall be stolen from; and when you kill, you shall be killed!

That is The Law!

Which is why the Bible further Said Evil pursueth sinners.

So, after Cain had killed, he saw that he was marked for death like John Wick and that people were getting notification of "remove the life of this man, he does not deserve to live for he has removed the life of another"

Machinegun91:
I'm always asking the same question, they were only 4 people in the whole world then

Cain married his sister, that means that they were more than 4 people.

ctec:
But according to Scriptures Adam and Eve were the only people God created, the rest came from them. Except the animals and spirit beings like the fallen angels who were present on the earth at that time.

Ehen now! All I need to fill a house is male and female.

Did you not see that Cain married his sister?

Are u saying the Asians, Africans, Albinos all came from Adam and Eve? Unless the scriptures get as he be

ctec:
But according to Scriptures Adam and Eve were the only people God created, the rest came from them. Except the animals and spirit beings like the fallen angels who were present on the earth at that time.

9JAFULLBREED:
Are u saying the Asians, Africans, Albinos all came from Adam and Eve? Unless the scriptures get as he be

Sure! We see how people change when they move to a different place and how parents have birthed children who were different from themselves eg black parents birthing albino.

That is Power of a Creator in action.

1Sharon:



Which are?

Gen.5.4 - And the days of Adam after he had begotten Seth were eight hundred years: and he begat sons and daughters:


Sons and daughters

ctec:
When Cain Said Anyone Who Finds Him Will Kill Him, Who Are Those He Was Referring To? Let's Discuss.

https://wtpforum.com/Thread-When-Cain-Said-Anyone-Who-Finds-Him-Will-Kill-Him-Who-Was-He-Referring-To

The murderer was afraid to be killed in the future

1Sharon:



Mathew 5:5
“Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth”. Then Enoch 5:7 (6:9) says “The elect shall possess light, joy, and peace, and they shall inherit the earth”.

John 5:22
“The Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the son”. Then in Enoch 69:27 (68:39) says “The principal part of the judgment was assigned to him, the son of man”



Even Jude:

Jude 14-15
“And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousand of his saints, to execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken”.


Enoch 1:7, it is written “And behold! He had cometh with ten thousands of his holy ones to execute judgment upon all, and to destroy all the ungodly, and to convict all flesh of all the works of their ungodliness which they have ungodly committed, and of all the hard things which ungodly sinners have spoken against him”.

There was no Adam and Eve at the time of Enoch lol
Does Enoch predate genesis yes or no?

One question why didn't Abraham, Isaac, Jacob mention the book of Enoch, not even Noah not Moses, nor of the prophets before Jesus.

Wait not even the Hebrews or Jews recognize the book nor it's author.

One person should have, not even Joseph. There are oral saying of Enoch, Noah, the forefathers but no book of Enoch. Question is who wrote it, who passed it down where was it found, what language was it written it, how many early translations did it have.

gohf:


One question why didn't Abraham, Isaac, Jacob mention the book of Enoch, not even Noah not Moses, nor of the prophets before Jesus.

Wait not even the Hebrews or Jews recognize the book nor it's author.

One person should have, not even Joseph. There are oral saying of Enoch, Noah, the forefathers but no book of Enoch. Question is who wrote it, who passed it down where was it found, what language was it written it, how many early translations did it have.

You can ask your God all those questions

If the book was not legitimate, why would Jesus reference it?

Dtruthspeaker:


Sure! We see how people change when they move to a different place and how parents have birthed children who were different from themselves eg black parents birthing albino.

That is Power of a Creator in action.

An albino is still a black person.


African Americans have not turned white yet despite being in the US for 4 centuries.

What are you talking about?

What race was Adam and Eve?

1Sharon:
■ Mathew 5:5
“Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth”. Then Enoch 5:7 (6:9) says “The elect shall possess light, joy, and peace, and they shall inherit the earth”.

■ John 5:22
“The Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the son”. Then in Enoch 69:27 (68:39) says “The principal part of the judgment was assigned to him, the son of man”

■ Even Jude: Jude 14-15
“And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousand of his saints, to execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken”.


Enoch 1:7, it is written “And behold! He had cometh with ten thousands of his holy ones to execute judgment upon all, and to destroy all the ungodly, and to convict all flesh of all the works of their ungodliness which they have ungodly committed, and of all the hard things which ungodly sinners have spoken against him”.
■ There was no Adam and Eve at the time of Enoch lol
Does Enoch predate genesis yes or no?

1. The one says the meek --- alluding to all that are meek ---' whereas the others references all those who are elect --- not necessarily the meek among them --- inheriting the earth. So, how can both statements be the same? Do we simply declare them the same simply on grounds of the phrase "inherit the earth"?

2. The one from John records that All judgment has been committed to the son, whereas the other records instead that part of judgment has, so how can both be considered the same?

3. We know that Jude referenced Enoch, not the book, and we are not certain the source of his statement regarding Enoch is from that book we have today though. And what Jude indicated in his letter points to a complete judgement of all, as opposed to the partial judgment which you had earlier indicated from your extract from the Book of Enoch.

4. I don't understand. Enoch came after Adam and Eve. Your claim was that there were others besides them , others not descended from them.

According to records, the book of Enoch was supposedly written in 2nd century BCE, whereas Genesis was written sometime between 15th and 13th century B.C.

1Sharon:


An albino is still a black person.

African Americans have not turned white yet despite being in the US for 4 centuries.

What are you talking about?

What race was Adam and Eve?

And for many of them, their colour tone is not like the Africans in Africa. Not to talk of the age old crime of polygamy and secret children and children born by prostitutes.

1Sharon:




Your Bible is incomplete.


The book of Enoch confirms Adam and Eve weren't alone.


Before you turn around to say "Enoch is non-canonical" Jesus himself referenced the book.

So much for the "word of God".

Jude even qoutes the book of Enoch directly and make several allusions to it
Apostle Paul also tapped from it, he got his idea of the seven heavens from there.
Just that Enoch did not make it into the present Bible Cannon.
Moreover none of this books are what this evangelicals claim it to be. It's just full of oral tradition, tales and revisionist history