guysbewise:

But note that Daniel 2:44 has nothing to do with the 2000 year old second coming scam created by the Roman Empire, so don't let anyone deceive you anymore.

MrPresident1:

Expand on the scam part please

Lighthouse50:
Op, where do you belong? Dont sit on the fence. Why hold strictly to old convenant and reject new.

guysbewise:

There is no second coming scam of Jesus Christ anywhere in the Book of Daniel. The second coming scam of Jesus Christ is a creation of the Roman Empire 2000 years ago after they destroyed the Temple in Jerusalem the Romans realised how strong the Old Testament promise of a Messiah was for the Jews to come and defeat the Romans from the land of Israel, so the Roman Empire decided to create their own gentle messiah called Jesus Christ so as to take the minds of the people away from the promised Messiah in the Old Testament.

guysbewise:

Then read again: “In the time of those kings, the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed, nor will it be left to another people. It will crush all those kingdoms and bring them to an end, but it will itself endure forever” (Daniel 2:44, NIV). ...

Wawelexy:
I pray you don't realise when it's too late

Dtruthspeaker:

guysbewise:


The second coming opium you are taking is even the fake one that has damaged your mind beyond repair that you are now showing your madness everywhere on the forum.
Satan is using you and your madness to continue with this second coming yahoo yahoo scam that started 2000 years ago.

THUNDER WILL CONTINUE TO STRIKE you and your madness will continue to increase that you will start to say MrPresident1 is MaxInDHouse .

Wawelexy:
I pray you don't realise when it's too late

von02:
I weep for von02 for , so after seeing all these world events dovetail the prophecies in the Bible, you still prove stubborn to heed to God
You even had the audacity to call it a scam, Kai, what a deceitful and blinded age the Bible prophecied (Laodecean Age) and yet they don't know it.
Let this be known to You, If God ever made a promise, He is OBLIGATED to His Promise, Heavens and Earth shall pass, but not His Word, it may take ages, but will certainly come to pass. It's even better I am Ready for the second coming as He promised, (because He MUST certainly Fulfill His Word), it's better am prepared to meet Him, than not to be prepared and have my self to be blamed on that day

Dtruthspeaker:

As your threads have shown you, Dtruthspeaker is just mad by himself.

guysbewise:


Then read again: “In the time of those kings, the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed, nor will it be left to another people. It will crush all those kingdoms and bring them to an end, but it will itself endure forever” (Daniel 2:44, NIV).

There is no second coming scam of Jesus Christ anywhere in the Book of Daniel. The second coming scam of Jesus Christ is a creation of the Roman Empire 2000 years ago after they destroyed the Temple in Jerusalem the Romans realised how strong the Old Testament promise of a Messiah was for the Jews to come and defeat the Romans from the land of Israel, so the Roman Empire decided to create their own gentle messiah called Jesus Christ so as to take the minds of the people away from the promised Messiah in the Old Testament.

guysbewise:


Then weep for yourself that 2000 year old yahoo yahoo SCAMMERS are still scamming you 2000 years later.

Then read (Daniel 2:44, NIV): “In the time of those kings, the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed, nor will it be left to another people. It will crush all those kingdoms and bring them to an end, but it will itself endure forever” (Daniel 2:44, NIV).

There is no second coming scam of Jesus Christ anywhere in the Book of Daniel. The second coming scam of Jesus Christ is a creation of the Roman Empire 2000 years ago after they destroyed the Temple in Jerusalem the Romans realised how strong the Old Testament promise of a Messiah was for the Jews to come and defeat the Romans from the land of Israel, so the Roman Empire decided to create their own gentle messiah called Jesus Christ so as to take the minds of the people away from the promised Messiah in the Old Testament.  

von02:

Your approach to the bible is dead wrong. I really weep for von02. Where are you getting all this false make ups from?? If they are not in accordance with the Bible by Revelation, then you are on your own, cuz God won't come to terms with your ideologies, God don't care about your reasonings and man made philosophies of what you think His word His. So You better make sure you can prove all these nonsense you are saying by the scriptures. And if You can't prove it by the Bible then You better stay away with your false claims, your just making blind claims with no backup.

Long before Jesus was born Isaiah prophecied of His first coming Isaiah 40vs3, And we know from the scriptures that John the Baptist was the forunner of the first coming of Christ. Jesus came to earth and fulfilled all as it was written of Him, and Jesus in His own words for told of His second coming in Matthew 24vs35-51 and also James 5vs 7-9.
So what's your scripturural backup ??

von02:

Your approach to the bible is dead wrong. I really weep for You dear...

Dtruthspeaker:


Dtruthspeaker is a well known mad person who got mad because of his drug use operating with about 4 different monikers. He never recovered from his drug abuse, so there isn't anything normal with him.

guysbewise:
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Dtruthspeaker:


See proof!

The mad Dtruthspeaker has got so high in his madness from the FAKE second coming opium his has been taking.

Dtruthspeaker:


See, even when this passage clearly says that God will come and set up His Kingdom that will last forever, mad man is not seeing it nor understanding it.

Broveens42:


So how does this relate to the SECOND coming of JESUS? (Underline 'second')
You see why I advise us to back to our native languages; it will be a lot easier to enjoy this story book as it is, rather than adding more gullibility.
These are one of so many visions of a god coming down..

Let us look at this other passage critically

Dan 4
13 “I saw in the visions of my head while on my bed, and there was a watcher, a holy one, COMING DOWN from heaven.
14 He cried aloud and said thus:
‘Chop down the tree and cut off its branches,
Strip off its leaves and scatter its fruit.
Let the BEAST get out from under it,
And the birds from its branches.
16 Let his heart be changed from that of a MAN,
Let him be given the heart of a BEAST,
And let seven times pass over him.
17 ‘This decision is by the decree of the watchers,
And the sentence by the word of the holy ones,
In order that the living may know
That the MOST HIGH RULES in the kingdom of MEN,
GIVES it to WHOMEVER He will,
And sets over it the LOWEST of MEN

Lol
When you read this in your native language; then your interpretation, devoid of bias, would be:
The stronger the government (most high/advanced nation, the greater your chances of influencing certain policies of other weaker nations; they can even be given the lowest of men to rule.

Dtruthspeaker:


First, it was authored by a person from my tribe so I can not read it based on my native language.

Secondly, we have already seen that since the strongest governments have been ruling since the time of the prophecy of the strongest government eg Rome, Europe, Europe and America, Europe, America, China .

And thank God you admitted that there are other prophecies and those prophecies point out to other events that we are told to look out for the prophecy of the hardness of buying and selling.

So you do not speak well at all.

Jashub:
Everything is always true until proven false and so far it's impossible to assume that the second coming Jesus is a false narrative .

Secondly, just because you don't believe in a particular religion doesn't make it false. On the contrary the second coming of Christ is true because the Man Jesus Christ really existed, and if He existed , then the bible and its narratives must be true about what's to come

von02:
I weep for you for , so after seeing all these world events dovetail the prophecies in the Bible, you still prove stubborn to heed to God
You even had the audacity to call it a scam, Kai, what a deceitful and blinded age the Bible prophecied (Laodecean Age) and yet they don't know it.
Let this be known to You, If God ever made a promise, He is OBLIGATED to His Promise, Heavens and Earth shall pass, but not His Word, it may take ages, but will certainly come to pass. It's even better I am Ready for the second coming as He promised, (because He MUST certainly Fulfill His Word), it's better am prepared to meet Him, than not to be prepared and have my self to be blamed on that day

jaephoenix:

1. No. Your claim is everything is true til proven false is a lie. If I tell you I have wings and I fly to work everyday, I guess you won't need proof. Just believe me
2. Apart from your buybull, which history text corroborated the existence of Jesus, or better still lent credibility to his deity?

Jashub:
We've already debated this subject and I brought references to famous historians like Josephus and Tacitus who both accounted in their writings of Jesus existence . Going back and forth on this matter is actually boring ...

jaephoenix:

… and what did you get from our discourse?
Josephus account was proved to fake and Tacitus's made a sentence about him. A sentence.

Jashub:
You're the one that made Josephus argument fake by coming up with your own delusions about fact that's known by many atheists and agnostics. And the last time I checked , reputatable Scholars (including atheists) believed Jesus existed. Even the almighty, Bart Ehrman, an agnostic and one of Christianity’s most outspoken critics, believes that Jesus was a historical flesh and blood person.

If you're still looking for historians who believe and wrote about the historical individual called Jesus, just Google Pliny the Younger .