BluntCrazeMan:



Instead of you to answer my simple question inside the other uncrowded harmless thread,, you're here mentioning my moniker on another thread.

Nevertheless,, I will still respond to you..

Now..
Let me still drag you back to that same Electoral-Act-2022: Section-64; Sub-Section-(4);.(a-&-b)..

The words there are very clear.

We can all agree that the “Directly-Transmitted Results From The Various Polling-units”, as described inside the Electoral Act, could be done using any method on this earth, (be it “Optical-Fibre Transmission”, “Solar-Waves Transmission”, “Radio Transmission”, “Sonar Transmission”, and even “Seismic Transmission” too),, but definitely NOT “Manual Transmission”, because it wouldn't satisfy the expected requirements of the Electoral Act.


Section-64(4) of the Electoral Act simply maintains that, no matter the Method or Mode which INEC employed for the Transmission of the results (“Directly from the Polling-units”),, it MUST be completely done-and-dusted with before the Collations that are supposed to use the results from those polling-units would start.
This is because,, those directly transmitted results are the results which the Collation Officers at the various “WARDS COLLATION CENTERS” must use to satisfy the requirements of the Section-64(4) of the Electoral-Act-2022.



Therefore,, this particular Court-Ruling still didn't deflate my arguments..


Please read the Section-64; Sub-Section-(4):.(a-&-b) of the Electoral-Act-2022 again,, and explain it well to me,, just in case I am not understanding it very well..

benheaven:

You are doing yourself harm

YorubaRonuuu:
Gbam.... This news won't be nice in the ears of the ipob and the obi followers because they will start crying that the judge has been bribed.

Yoruba Lokan

Tinubu's 8 years is certain!

emerged01:


Yes,INEC has its own guidelines and regulations but they have the power to act against them when the situation calls for it. But not carrying the parties along on the need to take such step is where the mistake came in.

wildkat:


U just open your rotten mouth and shout gbam! Whether the news is genuine or not... So far as it massages your stupid fancy

YorubaRonuuu:
you're very stupid for that statement, so the news isn't genuine now because it's apparently wasn't what you want to hear... Dumbed ass idiot

wildkat:


Yes that's how APC touts and urchins talk. Very foolish set of bastards

mokafor:

https://www.thecable.ng/rewind-in-january-court-ruled-that-inec-can-use-any-method-for-results-transmission/amp

YorubaRonuuu:
it's obvious that you're the real bastard expecting everyone to start acting like a sheep following your candidate deceiving them not to a tribal biggot... I'm not even into politics so get that into your skull

wildkat:


Calm down.. stop foaming from the mouth

bentenny:

This is not a matter of insults or emotions!
Read the guidelines and regulations which is an extension of the amended electoral acts!
If inec gave a contrary training to their presiding officers,then the commission has defaulted in their own laws of which there are grave consequences for such actions which may include an outright cancellations of the presidential election assuming you are right in your assertions!
Peruse before commenting!

Mylove55:
inec follow the electoral act,

Mylove55:

at least 83% of the results were uploaded from the poling unit,

Mylove55:

that means, presiding officers follow inec instructions that any area without network can transfer manually

bentenny:


The guidelines and regulations is an extension of the amended electoral acts!
Its also carries the same weight as the electoral laws itself!



Do you have facts that 83% of results were uploaded in the irev after voting was concluded on February 25th?
Even the same irev wasn't even functioning on the election day as inec admitted they encountered issues with the inec server...


Once again,your assertion if correct further puts inec in trouble and concludes the independent body disobeyed their own laws!
The guidelines and regulations which is as mandatory as the electoral laws indicates that its imperative for results to be transmitted electronically from the polling unit!
Once the primary transmission of results fail,the election is cancelled as the process has been flawed!
Manual transmission implies that the results will be done at the collation centre which compromises the integrity of the results as we have seen so far in some states!
Finally, if inec knew that the e-transmission of results was not possible or attainable,they should have told the public and outrightly postpone the election until they comply with their own laws!
The disobedience of their own laws has just rendered the election null and void!

Mylove55:
if inec had postpone the election, you people will be the first to shout foul play,

Mylove55:

Meanwhile, the court said inec can decide any method, and inec use both method to transmit result

bentenny:


Its not about what people will say...its about doing what is stated in the electoral law in constitution!
Things must be done in the right manner without sentiments!


Yes the court said inec can decide which method of transmission to use...that was why inec brought out their guidelines and regulations to make the electorates and parties aware of the method of transmission they have and will be adopting in the election which is the electronic means!
This is contained in the guidelines and regulations of inec that carries as much weight as the electoral laws!
Infact,the guidelines and regulations are an extension of the electoral laws!
If inec believes they were not prepared for the method of transmission they have adopted,they would have simply postponed the election!
Its that simple!

YorubaRonuuu:
asshole face front

Mylove55:
there is no way to have 100% electronic transmission of results, because network do fails in nigeria,
Even your banking system guarantee 100% cashless,

Mylove55:

For inec to get 83% electronic transmission is not a small fit,

Mylove55:

Some area can not transmit electronically,

Mylove55:

Meanwhile, the 12 state won by apc came in less than 24hrs,
Follow by where atiku won,
But where obi won came after 48hrs, even Abuja result came last,
Obi.diot are simply ashamed to concede defeat,
Is not really easy to concede defeat after all the insult and boasting to defeat tinubu.
Just admit that this election is the most freest and fairest election since 1960

bentenny:

Sorry dear but if humongous funds gotten from taxpayers were channelled towards getting the BIVAS and ensuring electronic transmission,the least expected from INEC was a near flawless election!
The reason behind the electronic transmission of results from polling units was to ensure that the integrity of the election and independence of the commission was preserved!
If INEC were unable to perform what was contained in their guidelines and regulations,it simply meant they conducted a disgraceful election which should not have stood had the commission had an ounce of credibility left in them!

Yes, inec did a good job, pdp already employed the service of Russians to hack the server as they did in 2019,
The pdp actually attacked the server 166 times,
You need to commend Inec for a job well done

You are still yet to provide me with proof that there was 83% electronic transmission of results on february 25!
There were various degrees of problems aside INEC's inability to electronically transmit results!
Most polling units had no INEC official hence no voting was done or When there was presence of INEC officials,the BIVAS was either not working or the voting materials were not enough for the particular PUs!
Most INEC officials showed up at their respective centres with no material for the election and went back to the collation centre only to hear that results from that PU had been manufactured from nowhere and the results announced!
In most PUs INEC officials came very late to their centres and in two hours they wanted to leave!
All these are on INEC and they were provided with enough funds in order not to blame anyone!
Overall,the election was a sham and the primary reason for many electorates who came out to vote which is believing their votes will count using an electronic means was truncated by INEC's inability to conduct a free and fair election!



You still dont get it!
Whose fault is it?
INEC boasted about their preparedness and assured everyone that results will be transmitted electronically from all PUs in the country!
If there was network failure or hitch,the guidelines and regulations stated explicitly that for such PUs will either be cancelled and a free election held 24 hours later!
So thats no excuse dear!



Obviously you are speaking from a partisan inclination!
However,the reason behind conducting a free and fair election is for all parties to realize that they were not in any way cheated!
This was the reason for the BIVAS and the electronic transmission of results in order to give the election the needed credibility!
Another reason why the BIVAS was introduced is to ensure transparency and a future reduction of court processes!
Unfortunately,this was not possible because the election outcome was horrendously conducted and left room for election malpractices!
If you claim the 2023 presidential election was the freest and fairest election since 1960,then i guess i am living in a totally different country from yours!

Finally one point to note is that you have deviated from the main conversation and trying fruitlessly to hold brief for INEC....Have you finally admitted that INEC failed to uphold their own end of the bargain by disobeying their own laws that was stipulated in their own guidelines and regulations which is also as mandatory as the electoral laws? Yes or No?

Mylove55:
if inec had postpone the election, you people will be the first to shout foul play,
Meanwhile, the court said inec can decide any method, and inec use both method to transmit result

feedthenation:


---Maybe INEC decided to stop electronic transmission of results due to videos like the link below---

https://twitter.com/Sir_Muby49/status/1633856211564089345?s=20

bentenny:

Sorry dear but if humongous funds gotten from taxpayers were channelled towards getting the BIVAS and ensuring electronic transmission,the least expected from INEC was a near flawless election!
The reason behind the electronic transmission of results from polling units was to ensure that the integrity of the election and independence of the commission was preserved!
If INEC were unable to perform what was contained in their guidelines and regulations,it simply meant they conducted a disappointing and disgraceful election which should never have stood had the commission had an ounce of credibility left in them!


You are still yet to provide me with proof that there was 83% electronic transmission of results on february 25!
There were various degrees of problems aside INEC's inability to electronically transmit results!
Most polling units had no INEC official hence no voting was done or When there was presence of INEC officials,the BIVAS was either not working or the voting materials were not enough for the particular PUs!
Most INEC officials showed up at their respective centres with no material for the election and went back to the collation centre only to hear that results from that PU had been manufactured from nowhere and the results announced!
In most PUs INEC officials came very late to their centres and in two hours they wanted to leave!
All these are on INEC and they were provided with enough funds in order not to blame anyone!
Overall,the election was a sham and the primary reason for many electorates who came out to vote which is believing their votes will count using an electronic means was truncated by INEC's inability to conduct a free and fair election!



You still dont get it!
Whose fault is it? The electorates or INEC that kept ponificating about how ready they were to deliver a free and fair election!
INEC boasted about their preparedness and assured everyone that results will be transmitted electronically from all PUs in the country!
If there were network failures or hitches,the guidelines and regulations stated explicitly that such PUs will either be cancelled and a new election held 24 hours later!
So thats no excuse dear!



Obviously you are speaking from a partisan inclination!
However,the reason behind conducting a free and fair election is for all parties to realize that they were not in any way cheated!
This was the reason for the BIVAS and the electronic transmission of results in order to give the election the needed credibility!
Another reason why the BIVAS was introduced is to ensure transparency and a future reduction of court processes!
Unfortunately,this was not possible because the election outcome was horrendously conducted and left room for election malpractices!
If you claim the 2023 presidential election was the freest and fairest election since 1960,then i guess i am living in a totally different country from yours!

Finally one point to note is that you have deviated from the main conversation and trying fruitlessly to hold brief for INEC....Have you finally admitted that INEC failed to uphold their own end of the bargain by disobeying their own laws that was stipulated in their own guidelines and regulations which is also as mandatory as the electoral laws? Yes or No?

feedthenation:


---Maybe INEC decided to stop electronic transmission of results due to videos like the link below---

https://twitter.com/Sir_Muby49/status/1633856211564089345?s=20

Mylove55:
Yes, inec did a good job, pdp already employed the service of Russians to hack the server as they did in 2019,
The pdp actually attacked the server 166 times,
You need to commend Inec for a job well done

Mylove55:

Meanwhile, the election should only be conducted in south east,
You said inec came late and without material and result were already in collation center,
That means those results awarded to obi in south east of 95% were all fake,

Mylove55:

.

bentenny:


Did a good job?
Are you sure you know what you are saying?
They failed in making provisions for their officers in terms of logistics hence the officials arrived at their PU centres very late!
They failed to adequately transmit results from PUs as the officials had challenges with uploading results thereby compromising the entire electoral process!
They failed to provide enough materials for many PUs across the country thereby disenfranchising many electorates!
Even INEC admitted though indirectly in their earlier press briefing that they didn't fulfill they purpose for which they promised Nigerians!
Most INEC officials were seem compromising the results by manipulating results due to the apparent absence of e-transmission of results!
If that is what you refer to as good then i would need to check the meaning again to know if it has recently been changed to something else!


Whether in the SE,or SS or NW or NE or SW or any other region in nigeria,the entire process was compromised the moment INEC failed to ensure the e-transmission of results from the polling units and the entire process should have been cancelled!

Once again,you are deviating from the main purpose of discus....do you finally agree that e-transmission of results was mandatory as contained in the guidelines and regulation of INEC which is an extension of the electoral laws? Yes or No?

bentenny:

Inec stopping the e-transmission of results and using manual transmission for any reason whatsoever goes contrary to their guidelines and regulations....The only option available to them was to cancel the entire process and declare that the election had been compromised while seeking a new date for another election instead of continuing with manual transmission of results without informing the public!
If this is Inec's argument,the election will definitely be cancelled by any court of law!

Mylove55:
inec actually received results from poling unit to their server,
But not to irev, because obi and atiku plan to infuse their result to irev,

Mylove55:

As you can see from the video I sent you, and dino agree he try to enter irev 166 times,
Inec knows their plan, that was the reason inec stop the irev and only received the result in inec server from poling unit,
Inec compare the results in server with the manual collation before announcing the result,
Inec really did a good job,
If not, nigeria would have be no more by now

Mylove55:
the aggrieved candidates are already comparing the result from inec server with what inec announced.
There is no difference

bentenny:

Interesting!
Firstly,what is IreV?
What to you is a server?


lol
It would seem as if you misunderstand a party situation room,IreV and Server!
In one hand,you are saying INEC ditched the usage of e-transmission and in another hand you are also saying INEC transmitted results to the inec server!
Obviously,it seems you do not know the relationship between the INEC server and IreV!

Mylove55:
that is the reason court will stroke out the issue of electronic transmitted result,
Because inec will tell court that she actually received the result from poling unit,

Mylove55:

Pdp or Lp disagreement is the issue of irev,

Mylove55:

And irev is not mandatory in electoral act or inec guidelines,

Mylove55:

For example, if NTA promise to show live match, and at last unable to show the live match, will you give court paper to NTA for not keeping to her promise, will not showing the match change the result of the match,

Mylove55:

Inec received the live result from poling unit and could not transmit the received result from server to viewing portal, does that affect the received result in the inec server?

Mylove55:

According to obi online inec ( mark essien) he could not see the difference between inec received result in the server and what inec actually announced