raskymonojendor:

Someone should show him this maps.

Below is the 1962 map of lagos

the dot at the bottom was where the Lagos Island Capital Was all the rest was under the western region

You can see that more than 97% of Today’s lagos was in Awolowo’s western region

Even Lagos Island was handed back to Awolowo as part of the western region at Independence


the western region allowed the National Government to Continue using Lagos Island as the Capital only

out of Consideration for the National Interest

Why are they proud of slavery heritage

christistruth01:



Lagos Island itself is the Property of the Awori Yorubas who gave his returnee slave Ancestors refuge and rehabiltated them

But this insult is too much

People like Desmond Elliott are Yoruba Saro they don't insult other Yorubas like this

This mischief must be the handwork of Bode George

The Saros played a treacherous role in the battle that replaced Oba Kosoko with British vassal Akitoye
Ogun Ahoyaya
Today is not the time to go into detail other than to say Madam Tinubu a prominent Egba Lagosian,slave dealer and wife of Oba Adele lost out when the British decided to end slave trade and returning slaves sided with the British
She was banished to Abeokuta by the British
For a long time there was not much intermarriage because of the slave stigma and s stream of Saros flowed into the Island

christistruth01:



Lagos Island itself is the Property of the Awori Yorubas who gave his returnee slave Ancestors refuge and rehabiltated them

But this insult is too much

People like Desmond Elliott are Yoruba Saro they don't insult other Yorubas like this

This mischief must be the handiwork of Bode George

This map gives another view

christistruth01:



Below is the 1962 map of lagos

the dot at the bottom was where the Capital Was all the rest was under the western region

You can see that more than 97% of Today’s lagos was in Awolowo’s western region

Even Lagos Island was handed back to Awolowo as part of the western region at Independence


the western region allowed the National Government to Continue using Lagos Island as the Capital only

out of Consideration for the National Interest

Lagos Island was not handed back
The Federal capital had a minister the late Yar'adua 's father
The Federal capital ended around the rail crossing where Fela's house used to be: IdiOro
Western Region was from Mushin on that axis
Four divisions Epe,Ikeja,Ikorodu and Badagry were Western Region
Th last Lagos was what used to be called Eko Fedira(federal) before the state was created in 1967

christistruth01:



Below is the 1962 map of lagos

the dot at the bottom was where the Lagos Island Capital Was all the rest was under the western region

You can see that more than 97% of Today’s lagos was in Awolowo’s western region

Even Lagos Island was handed back to Awolowo as part of the western region at Independence


the western region allowed the National Government to Continue using Lagos Island as the Capital only

out of Consideration for the National Interest

Oh. Thanks for this.

thebosstrevor1:
Why are they proud of slavery heritage

Yes. That's why they keep those slave master's name.

0m0nnakoda:

Who is. WE?
Who is your father?
You are now feeling among?
Rhodes are not indigenes of Lagos Island
They are settlers and Ijebus have been on Lagos Island before any Rhodes arrived
Tapa have been on Lagos Island before any Rhodes People crossed the Lagoon centuries before any Rhodes ,from Gberigbe and established several Agboles on the Island
Who was it that sold the ancestors of There Rhodes if not Ijebu Maybe that is why he is bitter
There has not always been a bridge. We know what Lagos Island looked like before bridges were built
Do you have in your mind a concept of Lagos Island before there was a bridge and how people got there 200 years ago? what did they eat? What crops did they grow? Who did they trade with?
We do ,we know their names and where they came from. They crossed the Lagoon on boat
Ijaws have been on the Island before any Rhodes arrived.
The indigenes of the Island are Kosoko,Akiolu,Eshilokun,Adele,Dosunmu etc Not Rhodes r Doherty
But Lagos state is not only the Island
It is five divisions
Badagry
Ikeja
Ikorodu
Lagos
Epe
Epe and Ikorodu are Ijebu and So Lagos state is a largely Ijebu state
The first elected indigene governor Otedola is Ijebu from Epe

Please educate him.

Many Igbos erroneously think that those who bear English or Brazilian (Portuguese) surnames are more Lagosian than those who bear Yoruba surnames.

0m0nnakoda:

The Saros played a treacherous role in the battle that replaced Oba Kosoko with British vassal Akitoye
Ogun Ahoyaya
Today is not the time to go into detail other than to say Madam Tinubu a prominent Egba Lagosian,slave dealer and wife of Oba Adele lost out when the British decided to end slave trade and returning slaves sided with the British
She was banished to Abeokuta by the British
For a long time there was not much intermarriage because of the slave stigma and s stream of Saros flowed into the Island

I know the History very well

Chinedu Rhodes attitude is absolutely Shocking, it is the equivalent of Kenya claiming to own the united States because Obama was President over it


Who do Chinedu and ipob think they are ?

Lagos is Aworiland

Lagos is 100% Yorubaland

The Awori are 100% Yorubas and from Ife Originally



On the day the British Colonial Government first landed in Lagos in 1851 Oyo controlled Badagry Area including Seme Which they had taken from the king of Dahomey along with Porto Novo (Ajase) in War .

The Oyos had initially also taken Allada ,Ouidah and Cotonou at the time but the King of Dahomey had managed to take them back while the Oyo were very busy fighting the Power drunk Afonja and the Fulani at Ilorin

The Oyos had fought Dahomey as Allies of the Eguns
aare oona kakanfo oyabi had led the Oyo Army

The Abeokuta Egba Army Controlled all of Lagos Mainland including Iddo Island and all the Territory from there to Abeokuta Which they had won in the Ota War of 1842 in Which the Oyos of Ibadan fought as Allies of Oba Kosoko and the Awori and received such a heavy defeat at the hands of the Egbas that the Ibadan Army had to be smuggled back home.

The whole Episode almost led to the downfall of Basorun Oluyole back at Ibadan

The Ijebu Army Controlled Everything East and North of Lekki including Victoria Island

All Oba Kosoko Controlled was the Slave market and Port of Isale Eko on Lagos Island, Even Ikoyi belonged to the Onikoyi who was Awori Yoruba with Oyo roots

Again if you hear that Yorubas spent 100 years fighting themselves till 1878,

Just know that the Egba, Ijebu and Oyo Which included Ibadan were also fighting for Control of the Coast of Lagos

Control of the Coast of Lagos meant Titanic Wealth. but unfortunately much of that was from the Slave trade

The Lagos territory Controlled by the Egbas , Oyo and Oba Kosoko belonged to the Awori People who were the most Peaceful and accommodating of all Yoruba Clans


Eko is Yoruba short for Ereko which means field and for Confirmation Ereko Market where the Egbas and Ijebu traded is still on Lagos Island today

Also Eko Ende in Osun State was one of the Locations of the Jalumi War of 1878

The Awori have inhabited Lagos since the 13th Century when they migrated from Ile Ife led by Olofin Ogunfuminire who was a great grandson of Oduduwa and a nephew of Oranmiyan who headed to Benin around the same period

The Land on Which Isale Eko of the Oba of Lagos is located belongs to the Awori Yoruba Aromire family till today

Aromire was one of the Sons of Olofin Ogunfuminire

The Otun Ekiti People migrated from Lagos in the 15 th Century and share the same ancestry with the Awori of Lagos

It was the returnee Egba Slaves who had been Converted to Christianity at Sierra Leone Bishop Ajayi Crowther included that asked the British Queen Victoria to invade Oba Kosoko’s Lagos in order to finally end the Evil Slave trade

Bishop Ajayi Crowther had met with Queen Victoria and Prince Albert her Husband at Windsor Castle over the Issue of how to finally end the Slave Trade in Lagos on 18th November 1851 and the Royal British Navy Bombarded Lagos one month Later on 26th of December 1851.

Bishop Ajayi Crowther who was originally from Osogun near Oyo had himself at age 13 been sold to a Portuguese Slave Trader at Lagos for a bottle of Wine and some Tobacco leaves

Capt Labulo Davies who later married Queen Victoria’s adopted Daughter Sarah Bonnetta (Aina) originally from Ilaro , was on the British ship that Bombarded Oba Kosoko’s Lagos in 1951 and Oba Akitoye whom the British had restored to the Throne of Lagos had first met the British Missionaries at Abeokuta while he was exiled there as Abeokuta was also Oba Akitoyes Owu mother’s Hometown he had promised. to end the Evil Slave Trade if the British helped to restore him to his Throne which his nephew Oba Kosoko had Usurped with the help of some local and Portuguese Slave traders after Oba Akintoye had driven the Portuguese Slave Traders out of Lagos 6 years earlier

Slave Trading was Oba Kosoko’s Business and his Slave Market was at Ereko Market of Isale Eko on Lagos Island where he also sold European made Goods

Ok listen to the Oba of Lagos Himself
At 25 mins of the Video below the what did Oba of lagos mean when he Said
"I am a Yoruba monarch" ?







https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7y0IK0SL9s0&t=1740s

christistruth01:




I know the History very well

Chinedu Rhodes attitude is absolutely Shocking, it is the equivalent of Kenya claiming to own the united States because Obama was President over it


Who do ipob think they are ?


Lagos is Aworiland

Lagos is 100% Yorubaland

The Awori are 100% Yorubas and from Ife Originally



On the day the British Colonial Government first landed in Lagos in 1851 Oyo controlled Badagry Area including Seme Which they had taken from the king of Dahomey along with Porto Novo (Ajase) in War .

The Oyos had initially also taken Allada ,Ouidah and Cotonou at the time but the King of Dahomey had managed to take them back while the Oyo were very busy fighting the Power drunk Afonja and the Fulani at Ilorin

The Oyos had fought Dahomey as Allies of the Eguns
aare oona kakanfo oyabi had led the Oyo Army

The Abeokuta Egba Army Controlled all of Lagos Mainland including Iddo Island and all the Territory from there to Abeokuta Which they had won in the Ota War of 1842 in Which the Oyos of Ibadan fought as Allies of Oba Kosoko and the Awori and received such a heavy defeat at the hands of the Egbas that the Ibadan Army had to be smuggled back home.

The whole Episode almost led to the downfall of Basorun Oluyole back at Ibadan

The Ijebu Army Controlled Everything East and North of Lekki including Victoria Island

All Oba Kosoko Controlled was the Slave market and Port of Isale Eko on Lagos Island, Even Ikoyi belonged to the Onikoyi who was Awori Yoruba with Oyo roots

Again if you hear that Yorubas spent 100 years fighting themselves till 1878,

Just know that the Egba, Ijebu and Oyo Which included Ibadan were also fighting for Control of the Coast of Lagos

Control of the Coast of Lagos meant Titanic Wealth. but unfortunately much of that was from the Slave trade

The Lagos territory Controlled by the Egbas , Oyo and Oba Kosoko belonged to the Awori People who were the most Peaceful and accommodating of all Yoruba Clans


Eko is Yoruba short for Ereko which means field and for Confirmation Ereko Market where the Egbas and Ijebu traded is still on Lagos Island today

Also Eko Ende in Osun State was one of the Locations of the Jalumi War of 1878

The Awori have inhabited Lagos since the 13th Century when they migrated from Ile Ife led by Olofin Ogunfuminire who was a great grandson of Oduduwa and a nephew of Oranmiyan who headed to Benin around the same period

The Land on Which Isale Eko of the Oba of Lagos is located belongs to the Awori Yoruba Aromire family till today

Aromire was one of the Sons of Olofin Ogunfuminire

The Otun Ekiti People migrated from Lagos in the 15 th Century and share the same ancestry with the Awori of Lagos

It was the returnee Egba Slaves who had been Converted to Christianity at Sierra Leone Bishop Ajayi Crowther included that asked the British Queen Victoria to invade Oba Kosoko’s Lagos in order to finally end the Evil Slave trade

Bishop Ajayi Crowther had met with Queen Victoria and Prince Albert her Husband at Windsor Castle over the Issue of how to finally end the Slave Trade in Lagos on 18th November 1851 and the Royal British Navy Bombarded Lagos one month Later on 26th of December 1851.

Bishop Ajayi Crowther who was originally from Osogun near Oyo had himself at age 13 been sold to a Portuguese Slave Trader at Lagos for a bottle of Wine and some Tobacco leaves

Capt Labulo Davies who later married Queen Victoria’s adopted Daughter Sarah Bonnetta (Aina) originally from Ilaro , was on the British ship that Bombarded Oba Kosoko’s Lagos in 1951 and Oba Akitoye whom the British had restored to the Throne of Lagos had first met the British Missionaries at Abeokuta while he was exiled there as Abeokuta was also Oba Akitoyes Owu mother’s Hometown he had promised. to end the Evil Slave Trade if the British helped to restore him to his Throne which his nephew Oba Kosoko had Usurped with the help of some local and Portuguese Slave traders after Oba Akintoye had driven the Portuguese Slave Traders out of Lagos 6 years earlier

Slave Trading was Oba Kosoko’s Business and his Slave Market was at Ereko Market of Isale Eko on Lagos Island where he also sold European made Goods

Ok listen to the Oba of Lagos Himself
At 25 mins of the Video below the what did Oba of lagos mean when he Said
"I am a Yoruba monarch" ?







https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7y0IK0SL9s0&t=1740s

I mostly agree but do not agree That Oyo controlled Badagry .
Discussion for another day

So Lagosians from the Island are more Lagosians than those of us from Ikorodu Epe Badagry is that what you foolishly implies ?

40Bullets:
Oga go and rest.
When.we talk about Lagos we refer to the island not Ikorodu or gberigbe area.

Very soon now Jakande's family from kwara will be claiming Lagosian because the father governed Lagos

0m0nnakoda:
I mostly agree but do not agree That Oyo controlled Badagry .
Discussion for another day

Badagry was the Alaafin of Oyos Sea Port

and the Egun were his Subjects but as you said that is for another day and the Egun can clarify their own History themselves

But this Chinedu boy doesn't know the first thing about Lagos History which is Lagos City itself belongs mainly to Awori and Ijebu


But why have ipob abandoned the SE for Lagos

Have they lost interest in Biafra already?

Throwback:


Please educate him.

Many Igbos erroneously think that those who bear English or Brazilian (Portuguese) surnames are more Lagosian than those who bear Yoruba surnames.

Autochthons do not bear any of those names like Doherty,Williams,Coker,Smith,Gonzalez,Da Silva,Cole,,Doherty,Randle etc but those families settled and identified as Yoruba and were accepted. Many were educated to very high standard and consequently constituted a privileged and elite class on the Island with direct access to the colonial British
Many sent their kids to London to get educated e.g Olayinka Rhodes in the famous Board members song
Their contribution to Lagos cannot be denied but I understand why they might not have a full concept of the Rest of the state

YINKA RHODES AND ABACHA

Ballmer:
So Lagosians from the Island are more Lagosians than those of us from Ikorodu Epe Badagry is that what you foolishly implies ?

Add
Ikeja Iddo Ebute Meta ,Agege ,Oshodi etc

It is a big shame that someone who claimed to be from Lagos opened his mouth and allowed that Trash to come out

Firstly Lagos Island is less than 3% of Lagos State

Secondly Lagos Island belongs to the Yoruba Awori everyone else settled there as their guests

christistruth01:



Badagry was the Alaafin of Oyos Sea Port

and the Egun were his Subjects but as you said that is for another day and the Egun can clarify their own History themselves

But this Chinedu boy doesn't know the first thing about Lagos History which is Lagos City itself belongs mainly to Awori and Ijebu


But why have ipob abandoned the SE for Lagos

Have they lost interest in Biafra already?

It is simply not true. Let us not derail this thread
Oyo never controlled Ijebu and certainly not Badagry You might need to go to Ajase/Porto Novo to seek Oyo controlled ports.
You need to unlearn that
It is also not true that Oyo was in the reckoning in 1851.Ibadan was the major military force involved in the Osogbo war in 1840

0m0nnakoda:

It is simply not true. Let us not derail this thread
Oyo never controlled Ijebu and certainly not Badagry You might need to go to Ajase/Porto Novo to seek Oyo controlled ports.
You need to unlearn that
It is also not true that Oyo was in the reckoning in 1851.Ibadan was the major military force involved in the Osogbo war in 1840

Ibadan are Ethnic Oyo
When Oyo people are mentioned Ibadan is included in the term
Oyo never controlled Ijebu Thank God
Ijebu People were too much of a headache to handle even for the British
They are the only ones that can handle themselves

That Badagry paid tribute to Oyo is beyond contention
That is correct but don't let us not digress

0m0nnakoda:

Lagos Island was not handed back
The Federal capital had a minister the late Yar'adua 's father
The Federal capital ended around the rail crossing where Fela's house used to be: IdiOro
Western Region was from Mushin on that axis
Four divisions Epe,Ikeja,Ikorodu and Badagry were Western Region
Th last Lagos was what used to be called Eko Fedira(federal) before the state was created in 1967

Lagos Island was part of the Western Region at Independence

It was allowed to continue as the Capital just for the sake of National Unity

This is the most educated thread have ever read in nairaland since have join this forum.

raskymonojendor:

"Tewonde" Bode George. I hope he has started packing his bags

He should take the likes of Chinedu Rhodes with him

Eko O ni baje

Ballmer:
So Lagosians from the Island are more Lagosians than those of us from Ikorodu Epe Badagry is that what you foolishly implies ?

That is what Chinedu has said.

He would rather that his Igbo uncles and aunties have opportunities in Lagos than Ijebus who own a vast portion of Lagos.

christistruth01:



Lagos Island was part of the Western Region at Independence

It was allowed to continue as the Capital just for the sake of National Unity

Sorry that is totally wrong
I adjure you to stop making assertions about what you do not know
Lagos which was the capital of Nigeria was not just Lagos Island it included Lagos Mainland,,Ikoyi ,Victoria Island and Apapa. It was not part of the Western Region.
That is nonsense I am sorry. At no time was Lagos Island part of the Western Region or governed from Ibadan
It's status in British Law was also different from the rest of Nigeria. The pre 1960 passport was different if you were born in "Lagos Colony" which was not a Protectorate but a Possession of the British Crown. If you were born in Lagos Colony before 1960 you can still today apply for a British passport

Beremx:
Real Lagosians are supporting GRV. Lagosians wannabe-attachee by force from other SW states are crying foul about the candidacy of GRV.

Na wa o!!

What do you mean "Lagosians wannabe-attached"? I am Ijebu and Ijebus are indigenous to Lagos State. They are indigenous to Lagos island too in particular because they are one of the earliest settlers probably after the Awori group.

Throwback:


See typical Igbo.

So he wants to win only Lagos Island where his forefathers settled as slave returnees?

Were his forefathers taken from Lagos Island as slaves?

Who's to know if his ancestors are not Ijebu?

Does he know the population of Ogun Ijebu in Lagos, not to talk of Lagos State Ijebus who fully control 2 (Ikorodu and Epe) of the 5 zones of Lagos?

This clown will regret his words.

Leave the clown. Abiiko akoigbo ita lati nko won wa ile.

christistruth01:


Ibadan are Ethnic Oyo
When Oyo people are mentioned Ibadan is included in the term
Oyo never controlled Ijebu Thank God
Ijebu People were too much of a headache to handle even for the British
They are the only ones that can handle themselves

That Badagry paid tribute to Oyo is beyond contention
That is correct but don't let us not digress

Doesn't matter and is irrelevant.
Americans were ethnically English
I do not know whether Badagry paid tribute to Oyobut I do not believe that
Paying tribute and being in control are completely different things
People pay tribute to Boko Haram and or Bandits
I have to ask you if you are from Lagos state because your claims do not match anything I have heard and I have decades of study of Lagos history under my belt
Badagry was never part of Oyo Empire . That is untrue

Lagos is Nigerian territory.....it was surrendered when the colony of Lagos was amalgamated to the Southern protectorate before merging with the Northern protectorate.

90% of development in Lagos was dine by federal government using Nigerian esp Niger Delta oil money. Lagos belongs to all Nigerians equally

0m0nnakoda:

Who is. WE?
Who is your father?
You are now feeling among?
Rhodes are not indigenes of Lagos Island
They are settlers and Ijebus have been on Lagos Island before any Rhodes arrived
Tapa have been on Lagos Island before any Rhodes People crossed the Lagoon centuries before any Rhodes ,from Gberigbe and established several Agboles on the Island
Who was it that sold the ancestors of There Rhodes if not Ijebu Maybe that is why he is bitter
There has not always been a bridge. We know what Lagos Island looked like before bridges were built
Do you have in your mind a concept of Lagos Island before there was a bridge and how people got there 200 years ago? what did they eat? What crops did they grow? Who did they trade with?
We do ,we know their names and where they came from. They crossed the Lagoon on boat
Ijaws have been on the Island before any Rhodes arrived.
The indigenes of the Island are Kosoko,Akiolu,Eshilokun,Adele,Dosunmu etc Not Rhodes r Doherty
But Lagos state is not only the Island
It is five divisions
Badagry
Ikeja
Ikorodu
Lagos
Epe
Epe and Ikorodu are Ijebu and So Lagos state is a largely Ijebu state
The first elected indigene governor Otedola is Ijebu from Epe

Lagos has been captured but Igbo hate is bigger than servitude

0m0nnakoda:

Why are you not worried about separating real Eboes from Wawa in Enugu?
That should exercise your mind more
There is no debate
On Sunday we will know who is in charge of the state

AndroBlaze:
Its only those who do not know basic history that can denigrate the Ijebu peoples contribution to Lagos...this is very very sad.

As in..... The guy has lost it.

0m0nnakoda:

Doesn't matter and is irrelevant.
Americans were ethnically English
I do not know whether Badagry paid tribute to Oyobut I do not believe that
Paying tribute and being in control are completely different things
People pay tribute to Boko Haram and or Bandits
I have to ask you if you are from Lagos state because your claims do not match anything I have heard and I have decades of study of Lagos history under my belt
Badagry was never part of Oyo Empire . That is untrue

Ask the People of Badagry themselves

DMerciful:
Lagos is Nigerian territory.....it was surrendered when the colony of Lagos was amalgamated to the Southern protectorate before merging with the Northern protectorate.

90% of development in Lagos was dine by federal government using Nigerian esp Niger Delta oil money. Lagos belongs to all Nigerians equally

You just jump in like an errant child into adult conversationand start talking ignorantly
Who is talking about territory?
We are talking law and legal status
Where does SURRENDER come into it.
The question of What is or is not Nigerian territory can only arise after 1960. Before then it was British and So any queries would have to reference British law and treaties. Part of why we had to give up Bakassi
What was the official title of Nigeria after Amalgamation in 1914
Today it is Federal republic of Nigeria
What was it in 1914?
Colony and Protectorate of Nigeria
Colony was Lagos
Legally in British law the rest of Nigeria was a Protectorate and not a Colony many never inquire into what that means legally but it is significant
The likes of Vivour-Rhodes may qualify for a British passport by a complex but still valid route

raskymonojendor:
Gbadebo Chinedu is absolutely clueless about the state he wants to govern.

It is not possible for someone from Lagos State not to know that a Big Chunk of Lagos State is actually in Ijebuland

Many People said he isn't Yoruba and cannot speak the Language

He doesn't know anything about Lagos History

0m0nnakoda:

Sorry that is totally wrong
I adjure you to stop making assertions about what you do not know
Lagos which was the capital of Nigeria was not just Lagos Island it included Lagos Mainland,,Ikoyi ,Victoria Island and Apapa. It was not part of the Western Region.
That is nonsense I am sorry. At no time was Lagos Island part of the Western Region or governed from Ibadan
It's status in British Law was also different from the rest of Nigeria. The pre 1960 passport was different if you were born in "Lagos Colony" which was not a Protectorate but a Possession of the British Crown. If you were born in Lagos Colony before 1960 you can still today apply for a British passport

Christistruth01, he is right about what the area composition of colonial Lagos was as at pre-independence.

However, Lagos was part of the Western Region Parliament, as such, Azikiwe being an MP from Lagos, wanted to become Premier of the Western Region.

When his NCNC failed to gain majority seat in the Western Region Parliament, with AG forming the regional government with Awolowo as Premier, Azikiwe then tried to go to the Federal Parliament as a Lagos MP. However, the regional Parliament was required to ratify those who would proceed to Federal Parliament, so Awolowo rather ensured that it was a Yoruba Lagos MP (Olorunimbe) that was ratified for Lagos to proceed to the federal Parliament.

Azikiwe realising that Awolowo had successfully caged him within the Western Region Parliament, abandoned his Lagos MP seat at the Ibadan regional Parliament, and took up a seat by replacement in the East, and ensured he resisted Dr Eyo Ita who had become Premier as NCNC leader in the SouthEast but could not successfully start his government, so he could take up the Eastern Premiership for himself as NCNC national leader.