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There Were No ''TRIBES'' In Nigeria Before British Colonization. by Napata77: 10:48pm On Mar 21, 2023
WHAT MANY OF YOU DON'T KNOW IS THAT BEFORE THE BRITISH CAME, THERE WAS NOTHING LIKE ''IGBO MAN'', ''YORUBA MAN'', HAUSA MAN'' ETC.

ACROSS ALL AFRICA, WE DID NOT DISTINGUISH OURSELVES BY LANGUAGE-BASED ''TRIBES''.

YORUBA SPEAKING PEOPLE DID NOT SEE THEMSELVES AS ONE GROUP.

SPEAKING YORUBA DID NOT MAKE YOU A ''YORUBA MAN''.

YOU WERE AN EGBA MAN. OR AN IJEBU MAN. OR AN OYO MAN ETC, WHO JUST HAPPENED TO SPEAK YORUBA.

SAME AS IGBOS. THERE WAS NO ''IGBO TRIBE'' BEFORE COLONIALISM.

THERE WERE JUST IGBO - SPEAKING PEOPLES SCATTERED ACROSS DIFFERENT LANDS.

THEY DID NOT REGARD THEMSELVES AS ''ONE'', AND OFTEN WARRED AGAINST EACH OTHER.

PEOPLE WERE DEFINED BY THEIR TOWN OF ORIGIN - NOT BY THE LANGUAGE THEY SPOKE.

IT WAS THE BRITISH THAT CAME AND SAW THAT THE BEST WAY TO DIVIDE THESE PEOPLE, SO AS TO RULE THEM EASILY, WAS BY SEPARATING THEM INTO LANGUAGE-BASED BLOCS WHICH THEY THEN CALLED ''TRIBES'' .

THUS IGBO SPEAKING PEOPLES BECAME THE ''IGBO TRIBE''.

YORUBA SPEAKING PEOPLES BECAME THE ''YORUBA TRIBE'' ETC ETC.

BY FAVOURING ONE ''TRIBE'' OVER THE OTHER, THEY WOULD CREATE ETHNIC TENSIONS AND RIVALRIES THAT WOULD PREVENT THE 'NATIVES' FROM UNITING IN OPPOSITION AGAINST THE INVADERS, AND INSTEAD, COMPETE AGAINST ONE ANOTHER FOR THE COLONIALISTS' FAVOUR AND ATTENTION.

AND IT WORKED PERFECTLY, AND IS STILL WORKING 60 YEARS AFTER THEY LEFT.

I REPEAT: THERE WERE NOTHING LIKE ''TRIBES'' BEFORE THE BRITISH CAME TO NIGERIA.

IF YOU ARE WALKING AROUND TODAY HATING YOUR AFRICAN BROTHER BECAUSE HE IS OF A DIFFERENT ''TRIBE'' FROM YOU, KNOW THAT YOU ARE A CONDITIONED, PROGRAMMED ROBOT, ACTING OUT A PROGRAM, AND LED BY THE NOSE BY BRITISH IMPERIALISM FOR THEIR OWN SELFISH INTERESTS AND NOBODY ELSE'S, INCLUDING YOURS.
Re: There Were No ''TRIBES'' In Nigeria Before British Colonization. by DeathToAfonja: 10:55pm On Mar 21, 2023
Sharap your mouth

They were tribes


As long as we don't speak same language and corruption exists nothing will work in this country


Nothing at all


It's our ancestors that were very foolish and useless to let a whiteman gum them by force in useless marriage

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Re: There Were No ''TRIBES'' In Nigeria Before British Colonization. by Lanrefront90: 10:59pm On Mar 21, 2023
It will be nice if our government can introduce history has a subject. Our first contact with europeans is with the Portuguese ( lagos was a Portuguese name which means island) and if you check d way niger deltans dress with the hat they copied it from d Portuguese. Secondly when Portuguese came they met civilise people not savages , we have the nupes, benin empire, oyo empire with very good institutions on ground .

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Re: There Were No ''TRIBES'' In Nigeria Before British Colonization. by Napata77: 11:02pm On Mar 21, 2023
DeathToAfonja:
Sharap your mouth

They were tribes


As long as we don't speak same language and corruption exists nothing will work in this country


Nothing at all


It's our ancestors that were very foolish and useless to let a whiteman gum them by force in useless marriage

I don't deal with illiterate touts like you.

For those with a working brain, here's a media article expanding on the subject:

Colonialists didn’t fail to root out Africa’s tribal politics. They created it.
BY KAMAU MUIGA
AUGUST 6, 2019


''Before the colonial era, African ethnicities had been highly fluid and malleable phenomena. They did not exist as corporate entities. Boundaries were really shades of grey. People switched back and forth between groups. And, for the most part, no central authority enforced a shared set of laws through a monopoly of violence. As historian Terence Ranger writes in The Invention of Tradition:

“Almost all recent studies of nineteenth-century pre-colonial Africa have emphasized that far from there being a single ‘tribal’ identity, most Africans moved in and out of multiple identities, defining themselves at one moment subject to this chief, at another moment as a member of that cult, at another moment as part of this clan, and at yet another moment as an initiate in that professional guild… the boundaries of the ‘tribal’ polity and the hierarchies of authority within them did not define conceptual horizons of Africans.”

Tribe, in other words, was not an exclusive political category before the onset of colonial rule. Ethnolinguistic groups – people who shared a language and ethnicity – did not necessarily constitute a political grouping known as tribe. As the eminent scholar Mahmood Mamdani puts it in Define and Rule:

“Did tribe exist [in Africa] before colonialism? If we understand by tribe an ethnic group with a common language, it did. But tribe as an administrative entity that distinguishes between natives and non-natives and systematically discriminates in favour of the former against the latter – defining access to land and participation in local governance and rules for settling disputes according to tribal identity – certainly did not exist before colonialism.”

https://africanarguments.org/2019/08/colonialism-tribal-ethnic-politics-africa/
Re: There Were No ''TRIBES'' In Nigeria Before British Colonization. by DeathToAfonja: 11:05pm On Mar 21, 2023
Napata77:


I don't deal with illiterate touts like you.

For those with a working brain, here's a media article expanding in the subject:

Colonialists didn’t fail to root out Africa’s tribal politics. They created it.
BY KAMAU MUIGA
AUGUST 6, 2019


''Before the colonial era, African ethnicities had been highly fluid and malleable phenomena. They did not exist as corporate entities. Boundaries were really shades of grey. People switched back and forth between groups. And, for the most part, no central authority enforced a shared set of laws through a monopoly of violence. As historian Terence Ranger writes in The Invention of Tradition:

“Almost all recent studies of nineteenth-century pre-colonial Africa have emphasized that far from there being a single ‘tribal’ identity, most Africans moved in and out of multiple identities, defining themselves at one moment subject to this chief, at another moment as a member of that cult, at another moment as part of this clan, and at yet another moment as an initiate in that professional guild… the boundaries of the ‘tribal’ polity and the hierarchies of authority within them did not define conceptual horizons of Africans.”

Tribe, in other words, was not an exclusive political category before the onset of colonial rule. Ethnolinguistic groups – people who shared a language and ethnicity – did not necessarily constitute a political grouping known as tribe. As the eminent scholar Mahmood Mamdani puts it in Define and Rule:

“Did tribe exist [in Africa] before colonialism? If we understand by tribe an ethnic group with a common language, it did. But tribe as an administrative entity that distinguishes between natives and non-natives and systematically discriminates in favour of the former against the latter – defining access to land and participation in local governance and rules for settling disputes according to tribal identity – certainly did not exist before colonialism.”

https://africanarguments.org/2019/08/colonialism-tribal-ethnic-politics-africa/

Rotten article and laughable source as usual.


We were never meant to be one!


We have never liked each other.


Why was Afonja conquered and made to dance naked on the streets by the Fulanis if there ever was love?


Why was the ruler of Lagos sent to exile by the Ona of Benin if there ever was love?


Stop being a pig and accept reality
Re: There Were No ''TRIBES'' In Nigeria Before British Colonization. by Napata77: 11:12pm On Mar 21, 2023
DeathToAfonja:


Rotten article and laughable source as usual.


We were never meant to be one!


We have never liked each other.


Why was Afonja conquered and made to dance naked on the streets by the Fulanis if there ever was love?


Why was the ruler of Lagos sent to exile by the Ona of Benin if there ever was love?


Stop being a pig and accept reality

Use your brain, you dunce. You don't know everything.

Nobody said there were no conflicts before colonialism.

In every part of the world we've had conflicts.

In WW1 and WW2 Europeans slaughtered 100 million of themselves.

So what is your point?

The British introduced the concept of 'tribal division' based on language, which was non-existent before colonialism.

They did that in order to create competing blocs in order to prevent unification of the masses who would OTHERWISE have united to oppose them.
Re: There Were No ''TRIBES'' In Nigeria Before British Colonization. by DeathToAfonja: 11:14pm On Mar 21, 2023
Napata77:


Use your brain.

Nobody said there were no conflicts before colonialism.

In every part of the world we've had conflicts.

In WW1 and WW2 Europeans slaughtered 100 million of themselves.

So what is your point?

The British introduced the concept of 'tribal division' based on language, which was non-existent before colonialism.

They did that in order to prevent unification of people who would OTHERWISE have united to oppose them.




Use your head.


How would we unite if we didn't speak the same language?
Re: There Were No ''TRIBES'' In Nigeria Before British Colonization. by id4sho(m): 11:19pm On Mar 21, 2023
Well, here down north. Most people add their town of origin to their names. It's for a reason
Re: There Were No ''TRIBES'' In Nigeria Before British Colonization. by Napata77: 11:20pm On Mar 21, 2023
DeathToAfonja:


Use your head.

How would we unite if we didn't speak the same language?

What a foolish thing to say. When it is time to unite to drive away a foreign enemy that has slaughtered thousands of your people and seized your lands, you WOULD unite even if it means using sign language to communicate among yourselves!

Plus we had many MULTILINGUAL people in those days, so communication was not a big issue at all.

Our ancestors travelled around. They weren't stuck to one place ignorant of others.

The main thing was that there was no active ethnic division before colonial rule. The British created and entrenched those artificial demarcations for purposes of Divide and Rule.

Why would you normally hate your fellow African simply because he spoke a different language?

It was the colonialists that did that.

It was not like that before they came.
Re: There Were No ''TRIBES'' In Nigeria Before British Colonization. by DeathToAfonja: 11:26pm On Mar 21, 2023
Napata77:


What a foolish thing to say. When it is time to unite to drive away a foreign enemy that has slaughtered thousands of your people and seized your lands, you WOULD unite even if it means using sign language to communicate among yourselves!

Plus we had many MULTILINGUAL people in those days, so communication was not a big issue at all.

Our ancestors travelled around. They weren't stuck to one place ignorant of others.

The main thing was that there was no active ethnic division pre-colonial rule. The British created and entrenched those artificial demarcations for purposes of Divide and Rule.

Here talking about past rubbish and how your forefathers were lazy simps and dimwits who allowed a foreign paled Caucasian from 100s of KM away come rule over them.


We need solutions now not lamenting and crying over spilled mills


The Europeans have already done the damage, steal your wealth and gave you her religion, rules and way of life even though they don't align with those of your forefathers .


Your current generation has done nothing to correct the mess.



Your pointless thread will die a natural death once I stop commenting.
Re: There Were No ''TRIBES'' In Nigeria Before British Colonization. by DeathToAfonja: 11:29pm On Mar 21, 2023
As funny as it sounds.


The Cunny deceptive Caucasian can come and rule over you again and turn you lots to slave if they so please.


You current generation will do absolutely nothing but die like flies if they choose to resist!
Re: There Were No ''TRIBES'' In Nigeria Before British Colonization. by DeathToAfonja: 11:32pm On Mar 21, 2023
I need you to tell me exactly what Nigeria will do if USA choose to invade and colonize her by tomorrow morning.


I'm less than a month Aso rock will be gone and your military base in the country will become leveled field for agricultural use.


Only thing your country will do is cry and beg.



Communications to other countries will be cuttof of course.



Nigeria is nothing.


U were never anything meaningful.
Re: There Were No ''TRIBES'' In Nigeria Before British Colonization. by Napata77: 11:32pm On Mar 21, 2023
DeathToAfonja:


Here talking about past rubbish and how your forefathers were lazy simps and dimwits who allowed a foreign paled Caucasian from 100s of KM away come rule over them.


We need solutions now not lamenting and crying over spilled mills


The Europeans have already done the damage, steal your wealth and gave you her religion.


Your current generation has done nothing to correct the mess.



Your pointless thread will die a natural death once I stop commenting.

The Europeans conquered the entire world, not just Africa, after they began using Chinese gunpowder to build guns and bombs 400 years ago.

For 20,000 years of history prior, the entire world used iron weapons.

That the Europeans developed firearms out of desperate greed to loot the wealth of the world, does not make any of us, their victims, ''dimwits''. It makes THEM demonic.

UNDERSTOOD?

Plus you will not be missed if you disappear from this thread, so do us all the favour.
Re: There Were No ''TRIBES'' In Nigeria Before British Colonization. by 2mch(m): 11:33pm On Mar 21, 2023
Empires actually which is worse than tribes. And the big ones were already fighting and constantly at war. We don fight ourself tire before colonization. Only Igbo was relatively isolated na why dem no get the respect and they are just learning. They have not felt the full effect of the damage such battles can cause and why everybody got tired and chose to respect each other.
Re: There Were No ''TRIBES'' In Nigeria Before British Colonization. by Napata77: 11:33pm On Mar 21, 2023
DeathToAfonja:
I need you to tell me exactly what Nigeria will do if USA choose to invade and colonize her by tomorrow morning.


I'm less than a month Aso rock will be fun and your military base in the countries will become leveled field for agricultural use.


Only thing your country will do is cry and beg.



Communications to other countries will be cuttof of course.



Nigeria is nothing.


U were never anything meaningful.



Ok, I'm done with you. You're a kid drowned in self hatred and inferiority complex.

You clearly need therapy. Not my job. Bye.
Re: There Were No ''TRIBES'' In Nigeria Before British Colonization. by DeathToAfonja: 11:37pm On Mar 21, 2023
Napata77:


The Europeans conquered the entire world, not just Africa, after they began using Chinese gunpowder to build guns and bombs 400 years ago.

For 20,000 years of history prior, the entire world used iron weapons.

That the Europeans developed firearms out of desperate greed to loot the wealth of the world, does not make any of us, their victims, ''dimwits''. It makes THEM demonic.

UNDERSTOOD?

Plus you will not be missed if you disappear from this thread, so do us all the favour.

Empires conquer empires


It is the game of the world since time immemorial.


Chinese have conquered other countries

Japanese, Russia, USA long list


Even the Stone Age humans seek to conquer others


Conquering nations is a game that will never stop

Romans conquered many nations without the use of fireman's


Mesopotamia conquered nations without use of fireman's

Edo in your backyard conquered Lagos

Keats was conquered by Fulani in their horses and sticks



Don't use firearms as excuse.



Europeans have been conquering nations without firearms.
Re: There Were No ''TRIBES'' In Nigeria Before British Colonization. by Napata77: 11:38pm On Mar 21, 2023
2mch:
Empires actually which is worse than tribes. And the big ones were already fighting and constantly at war. We don fight ourself tire before colonization. Only Igbo was relatively isolated na why dem no get the respect and they are just learning. They have not felt the full effect of the damage such battles can cause and why everybody got tired and chose to respect each other.

You are wrong, and exhibit the same ignorance of history common to this generation.

Empires were not ''constantly at war''. The people were not all suffering and dying till the white man came to rescue and 'civiize' them, like the colonialists taught you.

They taught you lies to make you feel racially inferior and worship them.

Do you know that Benin city was ranked among the most beautiful cities on Earth in the 16th century by visiting Europeans?

It had underground drainage and was the first city on Earth known to have streetlights.
Re: There Were No ''TRIBES'' In Nigeria Before British Colonization. by DeathToAfonja: 11:39pm On Mar 21, 2023
Napata77:


Ok, I'm done with you. You're a kid drowned in self hatred and inferiority complex.

You clearly need therapy. Not my job. Bye.

Nobi only inferiority complex.


I dare u to mention were I sounded inferior and what I stated that wasn't fact!

Isn't fact the truth?

Should I ignore fact and swallow a lie just because I need to massage my ego?


Unless your country and her kind who share at least same skin color wakes up


They'd forever be third class citizens and seen as joke by others.


Even the efforts currently made to give them any atom of respect is only supported and taken seriously if a Caucasian endorse it.


Laughable lots
Re: There Were No ''TRIBES'' In Nigeria Before British Colonization. by Napata77: 11:43pm On Mar 21, 2023
DeathToAfonja:


Empires conquer empires


It is the game of the world since time immemorial.


Chinese have conquered other countries

Japanese, Russia, USA long list


Even the Stone Age humans seek to conquer others


Conquering nations is a game that will never stop

Romans conquered many nations without the use of fireman's


Mesopotamia conquered nations without use of fireman's

Edo in your backyard conquered Lagos

Keats was conquered by Fulani in their horses and sticks



Don't use firearms as excuse.



Europeans have been conquering nations without firearms.

Are you dumb or something?

Europeans only conquered the world BECAUSE THEY HAD FIREARMS.

Before that, they could not conquer NIGERIA or anywhere in Africa or China or India or South America etc.

They even said so themselves in the famous English 1898 quote at the height of colonialism, where Hilaire Belloc wrote:

''Whatever happens, we have got the Maxim Gun, and they have not''.

Just arguing blindly like a mumu.

Keep quiet and learn. You don't know everything.
Re: There Were No ''TRIBES'' In Nigeria Before British Colonization. by DeathToAfonja: 11:46pm On Mar 21, 2023
Napata77:


Are you dumb or something?

Europeans only conquered the world BECAUSE THEY HAD FIREARMS.

Before that, they could not conquer NIGERIA or anywhere in Africa or China or India like they did.

They even said so themselves in the famous English poem;

''Whatever happens, we have got, the Maxim, and they have not''.

Just arguing blindly like a mumu.


They conquered you because they had superior knowledge as at then.

I'm not saying and average Caucasian is smarter than people of other tribe


They make better use of their sense collectively.


Was the knowledge of making firearms isolated and exclusive to Europeans alone?


U claimed China was were the European gained knowledge on firearms


How come little Japan far away island nation conquered this China in few days


This China were Europeans learnt how to build firearms grin
Re: There Were No ''TRIBES'' In Nigeria Before British Colonization. by Napata77: 11:55pm On Mar 21, 2023
DeathToAfonja:


They conquered you because they had superior knowledge as at then.

I'm not saying and average Caucasian is smarter than people of other tribe


They make better use of their sense collectively.


Was the knowledge of making firearms isolated and exclusive to Europeans alone?


U claimed China was were the European gained knowledge on firearms


How come little Japan far away island nation conquered this China in few days


This China were Europeans learnt her to build firearms from grin

Learn what was stated before arguing. I never said Europeans learnt from the Chinese how to build firearms.

They used Chinese gunpowder, which was a native mixture of elements which the Chinese had long used to create fireworks used in worship of their deities etc.

The Europeans simply observed the use of gunpowder and decided to use the process to make guns and harmful explosives like bombs, for the purposes of conquest. Europe was the poorest region on Earth, and her leaders were greedy for the world's resources.

Their use of firearms changed the power balance of the world virtually overnight, as they now had serious military advantage over every other region, as everyone else still used iron weapons.

That was how they conquered the Americas, Africa, and Asia. FIREARMS.

By the time other regions began using firearms, the Europeans, as the pioneers, had advanced in the production of firearms, and maintained their dominance till date. Although China is having a say nowadays.

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Re: There Were No ''TRIBES'' In Nigeria Before British Colonization. by DeathToAfonja: 12:00am On Mar 22, 2023
Napata77:


Learn what was stated before arguing. I never said Europeans learnt from the Chinese how to build firearms.

They used Chinese gunpowder, which was a native mixture of elements which the Chinese had long used to create fireworks used in worship of their deities etc.

The Europeans simply used gunpowder and decided to use the process to make guns and harmful explosives like bombs, for the purposes of conquest.

This changed the power balance of the world virtually overnight, as they now had serious military advantage over every other region, as everyone else still used iron weapons.

That was how they conquered the Americas, Africa, and Asia. FIREARMS.

By the time other regions began using firearms, the Europeans, as the pioneers, had advanced in the production of firearms, and maintained their dominance till date.


My point is... Nations, lands have been conquered before the Europeans started dreaming of conquering other Nations.

Even in Bible and other religions books


You literally can never become world power without conquering or intimidating other nations with your weapons.


It is the game of the world

The world was never made to be peaceful.


Have you been to the jungle and witnessed how carnivores conquer preys?

Earth is 1000% survival of the fittest.


If the Europeans didn't conquer your people they won't be where they are today.


Unless Africa look for a continent to steal from and exploit... they'll forever be the shithole of the earth.


Even if Africa start manufacturing her own products


They still need means to create monopolies to make sure other countries relies solely on their products... you can only achieve this by systematically conquering that country.
Re: There Were No ''TRIBES'' In Nigeria Before British Colonization. by 2mch(m): 12:01am On Mar 22, 2023
Napata77:


You are wrong, and exhibit the same ignorance of history common to this generation.

Empires were not ''constantly at war''. The people were not all suffering and dying till the white man came to rescue and 'civiize' them, like the colonialists taught you.

They taught you lies to make you feel racially inferior and worship them.

Do you now that Benin city was ranked among the most beautiful cities on Earth in the 16th century by visiting Europeans?

It had underground drainage and was the first city on Earth known to have streetlights.

There were wars everywhere! Yoruba-Nupe, Yoruba-Fulani, Yoruba- all Dahomey, Togo, and everybody in between. inter Yoruba civil war. I need to confirm Yoruba - Hausa. Fulani also fought all the empires in the North. Empires conquer, tribes are isolated group on people! Benin was conquering SS and colonizing some parts of SE. Nigeria is full of empires and many battles to define our territories. Not just tribes. Yoruba was even trying to advance to Ghana. Read Nigerian history. It’s all there. We were not some primitive tribe. You are the one talking like you are not well if you don’t know this history.
Re: There Were No ''TRIBES'' In Nigeria Before British Colonization. by DeathToAfonja: 12:08am On Mar 22, 2023
Napata77:


You are wrong, and exhibit the same ignorance of history common to this generation.

Empires were not ''constantly at war''. The people were not all suffering and dying till the white man came to rescue and 'civiize' them, like the colonialists taught you.

They taught you lies to make you feel racially inferior and worship them.

Do you now that Benin city was ranked among the most beautiful cities on Earth in the 16th century by visiting Europeans?

It had underground drainage and was the first city on Earth known to have streetlights.


Will you stop crying over spilled milk?


Do you know that Hiroshima and Nagasaki were beautiful cities before they got Nuked?


Did you know that China were prosperous in science and technology before the got colonized?


Do you know that India had amazing government and we're doing well before they got colonized?


Do you know that Persian empire once ruled the world before they got defeated by Alexander the Great?


All this nonsense do you know this and that won't build your cities back


Europeans have done the did already

Other continents are rebuilding and already becoming world power.


Less than 30 years ago Chinese were seen as short yellow funny eyed Chinks.

Now they're doing trade world with economic power USA.

Either rebuild your nation or remain laughing stock of the earth.

Germany got over treaty of Versailles in less than 20 years, became world power and defeated 10s of nations simultaneously.


They got defeated again, their lands bombed to bits... yet they've rebuilt and slowly becoming world power.


Israelites suffered almost equal fate and your ancestors both are slaves and underdogs but have rebuilt and becoming world power

People from your continent are in the bottom of the food chain!



You're here telling us stories!!!
Re: There Were No ''TRIBES'' In Nigeria Before British Colonization. by Napata77: 12:08am On Mar 22, 2023
2mch:

There were wars everywhere! Yoruba-Nupe, Yoruba-Fulani, Yoruba- all Dahomey, Togo, and everybody in between. inter Yoruba civil war. I need to confirm Yoruba - Hausa. Fulani also fought all the empires in the North. Empires conquer, tribes are isolated group on people! Benin was conquering SS and colonizing some parts of SE. Nigeria is full of empires and many battles to define our territories. Not just tribes. Yoruba was even trying to advance to Ghana. Read Nigerian history. It’s all there. We were not some primitive tribe. You are the one talking like you are not well if you don’t know this history.

Spare us this garbage. Colonialist clap trap.

In every part of the world, including Africa, they were periodic battles and skirmishes which wouldn't even qualify as ''wars'' by today's bloody standards.

Today we have wars that kill millions of people by bombs and missiles.

Precolonial 'wars' were minor skirmishes in comparison. A major war between Oyo and Dahomey might cost 500 lives or less. You can never compare wars fought with iron weapons with the calamitous situation we have today.
Re: There Were No ''TRIBES'' In Nigeria Before British Colonization. by DeathToAfonja: 12:13am On Mar 22, 2023
Napata77:


Spare us this garbage. Colonialist clap trap.

In every part of the world, including Africa, they were periodic battles and skirmishes which wouldn't even qualify as ''wars'' by today's bloody standards.

Today we have wars that kill millions of people by bombs and missiles.

Precolonial 'wars' were minor skirmishes in comparison. A major war between Oyo and Dahomey might cost 500 lives or less. You can never compare wars fought with iron weapons with the calamitous situation we have today.


War is War!

10,000 people dying or 500 people doesn't change the fact it is war.


Be here talking trash why Caucasian is in her lab as we speak building weapons of mass destruction to intimidate you when need arise.


You can only cry and weep and hope they don't unload on you unseats if doing the needful

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Re: There Were No ''TRIBES'' In Nigeria Before British Colonization. by 2mch(m): 12:13am On Mar 22, 2023
Napata77:


Spare us this garbage. Colonialist clap trap.

In every part of the world, including Africa, they were periodic battles and skirmishes which wouldn't even qualify as ''wars'' by today's bloody standards.

Today we have wars that kill millions of people by bombs and missiles.

Precolonial 'wars' were minor skirmishes in comparison. A major war between Oyo and Dahomey might cost 500 lives or less. You can never compare wars fought with iron weapons with the calamitous situation we have today.

There is no colonialist clap trap here. These are wars narrated by our forefathers and the evidence is there around the Western part close to Nigeria. So, Nigerian Nations, not tribes.
Re: There Were No ''TRIBES'' In Nigeria Before British Colonization. by DeathToAfonja: 12:15am On Mar 22, 2023
2mch:

There is no colonialist clap trap here. These are wars narrated by our forefathers and the evidence is there around the Western part close to Nigeria. So, Nigerian Nations, not tribes.

This person doesn't know the definition of a "TRIBE"
Re: There Were No ''TRIBES'' In Nigeria Before British Colonization. by gidgiddy: 12:15am On Mar 22, 2023
Napata77:
WHAT MANY OF YOU DON'T KNOW IS THAT BEFORE THE BRITISH CAME, THERE WAS NOTHING LIKE ''IGBO MAN'', ''YORUBA MAN'', HAUSA MAN'' ETC.

ACROSS ALL AFRICA, WE DID NOT DISTINGUISH OURSELVES BY ''TRIBES''.

YORUBA SPEAKING PEOPLE DID NOT SEE THEMSELVES AS ONE GROUP.

SPEAKING YORUBA DID NOT MAKE YOU A ''YORUBA MAN''.

YOU WERE AN EGBA MAN. OR AN IJEBU MAN. OR AN OYO MAN ETC.

SAME AS IGBOS. THERE WAS NO ''IGBO TRIBE'' BEFORE COLONIALISM.

THERE WERE JUST IGBO SPEAKING PEOPLES SCATTERED ACROSS DIFFERENT LANDS.

THEY DID NOT REGARD THEMSELVES AS ''ONE'', AND OFTEN WARRED AGAINST EACH OTHER.

PEOPLE WERE DEFINED BY THEIR TOWN OF ORIGIN - NOT BY THE LANGUAGE THEY SPOKE.

IT WAS THE BRITISH THAT CAME AND SAW THAT THE BEST WAY TO DIVIDE THESE PEOPLE, SO AS TO RULE THEM EASILY, WAS BY SEPARATING THEM INTO LANGUAGE-BASED GROUPS WHICH THEY THEN CALLED ''TRIBES'' .

THUS IGBO SPEAKING PEOPLES BECAME THE ''IGBO TRIBE''.

YORUBA SPEAKING PEOPLES BECAME THE ''YORUBA TRIBE'' ETC ETC.

BY FAVOURING ONE ''TRIBE'' OVER THE OTHER, THEY WOULD CREATE ETHNIC TENSIONS AND RIVALRIES THAT WOULD PREVENT THE 'NATIVES' FROM UNITING IN OPPOSITION AGAINST THE INVADERS, AND INSTEAD, COMPETE AGAINST ONE ANOTHER FOR THE COLONIALISTS' FAVOUR AND ATTENTION.

AND IT WORKED PERFECTLY, AND IS STILL WORKING 60 YEARS AFTER THEY LEFT.

I REPEAT: THERE WERE NOTHING LIKE ''TRIBES'' BEFORE THE BRITISH CAME TO NIGERIA.

IF YOU ARE WALKING AROUND TODAY HATING YOUR AFRICAN BROTHER BECAUSE HE IS OF A DIFFERENT ''TRIBE'' FROM YOU, KNOW THAT YOU ARE A CONDITIONED, PROGRAMMED ROBOT, ACTING OUT A PROGRAM, AND LED BY THE NOSE BY BRITISH IMPERIALISM FOR THEIR OWN SELFISH INTERESTS AND NOBODY ELSE'S, INCLUDING YOURS.



And this is why it is very important that we do away with this British colonial construct called Nigeria, organise a referendum so that all the people that Britain brought together choose where they want to belong

No matter the ethnic divide that may, or may not exist, nobody can deny that Nigeria isnt working
Re: There Were No ''TRIBES'' In Nigeria Before British Colonization. by Napata77: 12:18am On Mar 22, 2023
DeathToAfonja:


Will you stop crying over spilled milk?


Do you know that Hiroshima and Nagasaki were beautiful cities before they got Nuked?


Did you know that China were prosperous in science and technology before the got colonized?


Do you know that India had amazing government and we're doing well before they got colonized?


Do you know that Persian empire once ruled the world before they got defeated by Alexander the Great?


All this nonsense do you know this and that won't build your cities back


Europeans have done the did already

Other continents are rebuilding and already becoming world power.


Less than 30 years ago Chinese were seen as short yellow funny eyed Chinks.

Now they're doing trade world with economic power USA.

Either rebuild your nation or remain laughing stock of the earth.

Germany got over treaty of Versailles in less than 20 years, became world power and defeated 10s of nations simultaneously.


They got defeated again, their lands bombed to bits... yet they've rebuilt and slowly becoming world power.


Israelites suffered almost equal fate and your ancestors both are slaves and underdogs but have rebuilt and becoming world power

People from your continent are in the bottom of the food chain!



You're here telling us stories!!!

Stop posting rubbish and drivel, you blasted peabrain.

IF YOU WEREN'T THICK, you would know that the reason for this thread is PRECISELY to get Nigerians to abandon the artificial colonial TRIBAL DIVISIONS that have held them back.

You say ''rebuild your nation''. How do you 'rebuild your nation' if you refuse to understand why you are in trouble in the first place, insist on being a tribalist, and are only here to argue about everything?

You are the very cause of the problems you are moaning about, because you practice TRIBALISM, and insist on practicing it, while telling us to ''rebuild our nation''.

They are telling you that language based tribal divisions were artificially created by the colonialists to foster disunity. Something we need to conquer and jettison in order to move forward. Why are you opposed to that? Why are you arguing over that, or are you stupid?

You just come in here to argue blindly for the sake of arguing.
Re: There Were No ''TRIBES'' In Nigeria Before British Colonization. by DeathToAfonja: 12:25am On Mar 22, 2023
Napata77:


Stop posting rubbish and drivel.

IF YOU WEREN'T THICK, you would know that the reason for this thread is PRECISELY to get Nigerians to abandon the artificial colonial TRIBAL DIVISIONS that have held them back.

You say ''rebuild your nation''. How do you 'rebuild your nation' if you refuse to understand why you are in trouble, and are only here to argue about everything?

They are telling you that language based tribal divisions were artificially created by the colonialists to foster disunity. Something we nned to conquer. Why are you opposed to that?

You just come in here to argue blindly for the sake if arguing.





Your thread is dead on arrival.


Nigeria can never be one.

This has been proven countless times.
Re: There Were No ''TRIBES'' In Nigeria Before British Colonization. by Napata77: 12:27am On Mar 22, 2023
What we need in Nigeria is to BAN the use of terms like 'Yoruba, Hausa, Igbo', etc to distinguish our people.

TOTAL BAN.

IF YOU WANT TO REFER TO A PERSON, REFER TO HIM BY HIS TOWN OR STATE OF ORIGIN.

IF WE DO THIS FOR THE NEXT 10-15 YEARS, WE WLL GET RID OF TRIBALISM, UNITE, AND MOVE FORWARD AS AN AFRICAN GIANT.

I HEAR THEY ARE DOING STUFF LIKE THIS IN RWANDA, KENYA ETC. CLAMPING DOWN ON 'TRIBAL' SENTIMENTS.

WE NEED THAT HERE AS A MATTER OF URGENCY.

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