DeathToAfonja:



Your thread is dead on arrival.


Nigeria can never be one.

This has been proven countless times.

That is strictly your opinion, and you are just one out of 220 million Nigerians.

Just because you cannot let go of the ethnic hatred programmed into your head by the British, doesn't mean the rest of us are similarly incapable.

Napata77:


That is strictly your opinion, and you are just one out of 220 million Nigerians.

Just because you cannot let go of the ethnic hatred programmed into your head by the British, doesn't mean the rest of us are similarly incapable.

We wouldn't even be having this discussion of being one if it wasn't for the British that joined us together.

If we wanted to be one we would have merged ourselves before the British came along


We're indirectly saying the same thing... only thing is, I'm being more factual and realistic than you.

The British even taught us her language to enable her properly test her experiment yet it didn't work.


We have different cultures and ideologies... we're better of as separate counties than a single country.


A single country isn't working and will never work.

The tribal sentiments and resentment is deeply rooted in our DNA


education and civilization cannot change that!

DeathToAfonja:


We wouldn't even be having this discussion of being one if it wasn't for the British that joined us together.

If we wanted to be one we would have merged ourselves before the British came along

Necessity is the mother of invention. There was no overriding need to unite as one nation before the British invaded. It was AFTER they invaded that this need arose, and we WOULD have met that need and driven out the colonisers because there was no conscious ethnic division amongst our people. AND THE BRITISH KNEW THAT. Which was why they created language based blocs THEY called 'TRIBES', and set them up in opposition to one another. It is a very simple case of social engineering.

We're indirectly saying the same thing... only thing is, I'm being more factual and realistic than you.

The British even taught us her language to enable her properly test her experiment yet it didn't work.


We have different cultures and ideologies... we're better of as separate counties than a single country.


A single country isn't working and will never work.

Rubbish.

The tribal sentiments and resentment is deeply rooted in our DNA


education and civilization cannot change that!

RUBBISH AND LIES. Those ''tribal sentiments and resentments'' were NON-EXISTENT before colonial rule. So hating your brother based on language difference is NOT in your DNA. It was PROGRAMMED in you by the British.

The reason we are disunited is NOT because we speak different languages.

Do you know the Mali empire was multi lingual and multi-religous?

The empire covered almost HALF the entire West Africa at its peak.

So you can imagine how many languages were spoken there.

The empire was known for justice, peace, and prosperity throughout its 800 year existence.

They had numerous languages, but no ''tribes''.

Invading Europeans weren't there to make them into ''tribes''.

Napata77:


Necessity is the mother of invention. There was no overriding need to unite as one nation before the British invaded. It was AFTER they invaded that this need arose, and we WOULD have met that need and driven out the colonisers because there was no conscious ethnic division amongst our people. AND THE BRITISH KNEW THAT. Which was why they created language based blocs THEY called 'TRIBES', and set them up in opposition to one another. It is a very simple case of social engineering.




Rubbish.



RUBBISH AND LIES. Those ''tribal sentiments and resentments'' were NON-EXISTENT before colonial rule. So hating our brother based on language difference is NOT in our DNA. It was PROGRAMMED by the British.

The reason we are disunited is NOT because we speak different languages.

Do you know the Mali empire was multi lingual?

The empire covered almost HALF the entire West Africa at its peak.

The empire was known for justice, peace, and prosperity throughout its 800 year existence.

It seems you're living in wonderland and you've chosen fiction instead of reality.


We were never united.

We did trade with one another but never united.


How then did Europe conquer other nations that were United?


When the Britain left did they leave your people in unity or in disunity?


It is fact based on unity alone were more united when the British colonized us than now they left.


When we were under the British rule we all knew our common enemy was the white man hence we were united to see us defeat and send them away to allow us govern ourselves!



Now they left and we don't see them as enemies/threats anymore we look left and right and the only enemy we can think of this he who has different language and culture as ourselves.


One Nigeria is a delusion!

DeathToAfonja:



It seems you're living in wonderland and you've chosen fiction instead of reality.


We were never united.

We did trade with one another but never united.


How then did Europe conquer other nations that were United?


When the Britain left did they leave your people in unity or in disunity?


It is fact based on unity alone were more united when the British colonized us than now they left.


When we were under the British rule we all knew our common enemy was the white man hence we were united to see us defeat and send them away to allow us govern ourselves!



Now they left and we don't see them as enemies/threats anymore we look left and right and the only enemy we can think of this he who has different language and culture as ourselves.


One Nigeria is a delusion!

You are the one who lives in hate and wishes to be allowed to continue living in hate.

Don't rope us all into your sense of hatred for other language groups.

Have you heard of the MALI EMPIRE?

Don't pretend you didn't read what I wrote about them.

THEY ARE A CLEAR EXAMPLE of a multi-language empire in West African history that WORKED.

So your argument that Nigerians cannot form a nation because of language differences is invalid.

What Nigeria needs to do, and what some African nations are already doing, is to JETTISON THE POISONOUS COLONIAL INVENTION CALLED ''TRIBE''.

Once you do that, disunity ends.

Napata77:


You are the one who lives in hate and wishes to be allowed to continue living in hate.

Don't rope us all into your sense of hatred for other language groups.

Have you heard of the MALI EMPIRE?

Don't pretend you didn't read what I wrote about them.

THEY ARE A CLEAR EXAMPLE of a multi-language empire in West African history that WORKED.

So your argument that Nigerians cannot form a nation because of language differences is invalid.

What Nigeria needs to do, and what some African nations are already doing, is to JETTISON THE COLONIAL INVENTION CALLED ''TRIBE''.

Once you do that, disunity ends.

Unfortunately u cannot erase the term "TRIBE" or the idea behind it.

Not all empire is like or will be like Malian empire.

DeathToAfonja:


Unfortunately u cannot erase the term "TRIBE" or the idea behind it.

Wrong. Rwanda has done that. In Rwanda today, there are no ethnic groups. In 2003, the new Rwandan constitution removed any ethnic identification in their books. Given their history of ethnic tensions, conflicts, and genocide against the Tutsis, the new government programs have done everything in their power to eliminate the meaning and significance of ethnic groups (Hutu, Tutsi, or Twa).

It is all about social engineering. It can easily be done in Nigeria with a serious government at the helm.

Rwanda by the way, is now among the fastest developing nations on the continent, so that should tell you something.

Napata77:


Wrong. Rwanda has done that. In Rwanda today, there are no ethnic groups. In 2003, the new Rwandan constitution removed any ethnic identification in their books. Given their history of ethnic tensions, conflicts, and genocide against the Tutsis, the new government programs have done everything in their power to eliminate the meaning and significance of ethnic groups (Hutu, Tutsi, or Twa).

It is all about social engineering. It can easily be done in Nigeria with a serious government at the helm.

Rwanda by the way, is now among the fastest developing nations on the continent today, so that should tell you something.

You're saying nothing .


Kindly define the term "TRIBE"

DeathToAfonja:



You're saying nothing .


Kindly define the term "TRIBE"

Ask the British who gave you the term, what it means.

Why are you asking me?

Napata77:


Ask the British who gave you the term.

Why are you asking me?

You're trying to push a narrative and simply defining the term is giving you heart attack.

Should we also ask the British why the forcefully joined us together?

Napata77:


Ask the British who gave you the term, what it means.

Why are you asking me?

Wait so for your mind any British create Tribe for Nigeria?


I was even thinking you had something upstairs

DeathToAfonja:


Wait so for your mind any British create Tribe for Nigeria?


I was even thinking you had something upstairs

You have a lot to learn. Here's some education by Walter Rodney, famed writer of the book How Europe Underdeveloped Africa.. Here's what he wrote about the roots of tribalism in Nigeria:

''...it must be pointed out that nowhere in the history of pre-colonial Nigeria can anyone point to the massacre of Igbos by Hausas or any incident which suggests that people up to the nineteenth century were fighting each other because of ethnic origin. Of course there were wars, but they had a rational basis in trade rivalry, religious contentions, and the clashes of political expansion. What came to be called tribalism at the beginning of the new epoch of political independence in Nigeria was itself a product of the way that people were brought together under colonialism so as to be exploited. It was a product of administrative devices, of entrenched regional separations, of differential access by particular ethnic groups into colonial economy and culture.''

https://www.versobooks.com/blogs/4810-colonialism-as-a-system-for-underdeveloping-africa

In other words, use your head and quit being a toad and a British-built robot programmed to hate your African brother because of the BRITISH INVENTED POISON called ''tribe''.

Every morning you wake up and think you hate 'Hausas' or hate 'Yorubas' etc, just understand you are acting out a white man's evil programme.

Just like how a computer is infected with a virus and programmed to do harmful things. No difference.

The question is When will you delete the file?

Napata77:


You have a lot to learn. Here's some education by Walter Rodney, famed writer of the book How Europe Underdeveloped Africa.. Here's what he wrote about the roots of tribalism in Nigeria:

''...it must be pointed out that nowhere in the history of pre-colonial Nigeria can anyone point to the massacre of Igbos by Hausas or any incident which suggests that people up to the nineteenth century were fighting each other because of ethnic origin. Of course there were wars, but they had a rational basis in trade rivalry, religious contentions, and the clashes of political expansion. What came to be called tribalism at the beginning of the new epoch of political independence in Nigeria was itself a product of the way that people were brought together under colonialism so as to be exploited. It was a product of administrative devices, of entrenched regional separations, of differential access by particular ethnic groups into colonial economy and culture.''

https://www.versobooks.com/blogs/4810-colonialism-as-a-system-for-underdeveloping-africa

In other words, use your head and quit being a toad and a British-built robot programmed to hate your African brother because of the BRITISH INVENTED POISON called ''tribe''.

Every morning you wake up and think you hate 'Hausas' or hate 'Yorubas' etc, just understand you are acting out a white man's programme.

Just like how a computer is programmed to do certain things. No difference.

The question is When will you delete the file?

Nobody hate Hausa or Yoruba.


We just can't share the same country peacefully.


It's like merging USA/Mexico/Canada and telling them to form a country peacefully.

When you erase Tribe or whetaver you term it... Culture sets in.... Once u erase that Religion will set it.


We will also find a way to resent on another... especially if one side feel intimidated or cheated by the others.

Bye.

Your thread sha ends here!

id4sho:
Well, here down north. Most people add their town of origin to their names. It's for a reason

Exactly. The reason is because that was how they identified themselves in the pre-colonial era, not by the language they spoke, as we do today.

Back in those days, a man could speak up to 5 or 6 different languages, especially if he was a trader or a migrant from some other region.

So the only way to identify himself was by his town of origin, not by the language he spoke.

People were always migrating from one place to another, and a travelling family might speak Yoruba at the outset, move to a region were Igbo is spoken, and in a few years, they would all be speaking Igbo!

Remember there was no neutral language like English or Pidgin back then, so if you migrated, you HAD to learn the language and culture of your new abode, and in a few decades, your family would have turned 'Igbo'.

So there was nothing like ''I am Igbo'', ''I am Yoruba''. Theoretically, you could be BOTH Igbo and Yoruba and even Hausa at various points in the course of your life! That's how it was before colonial rule. Identity was very fluid.

So you might be here today sitting in Umuahia as an ''Igbo man'', declaring your hatred for ''Yorubas'', not knowing that your personal ancestors were migrants from Ijebu or Ile-Ife 300 years ago, or 400 years ago.

x

Bump!

DeathToAfonja:


Nobody hate Hausa or Yoruba.


We just can't share the same country peacefully.

SHUT UP. You hate them. You are a liar. Your moniker says 'DeathToAfonja'. You epitomise tribal hatred, and you are an utter disgrace.

If we cannot share the same country peacefully, how the hell are 11 million Igbos like you living in the north peacefully with no problems? Why haven't the Hausas and Fulanis killed you all or driven you away?

Can't you see you are a liar?

It's like merging USA/Mexico/Canada and telling them to form a country peacefully.

When you erase Tribe or whetaver you term it... Culture sets in.... Once u erase that Religion will set it.


We will also find a way to resent on another... especially if one side feel intimidated or cheated by the others.

Bye.

Your thread sha ends here!

Shut up, mumu. In every country there are divisions, including racial, religious, and class divisions. Doesn't mean they can't live together.

JUST SAY WHAT YOU REALLY WANT TO SAY, WHICH IS ''Please allow me to continue hating Yorubas and Hausas, and other 'non-Igbos', because the 'TRIBE' program the British wrote into my brain is just too strong and powerful to overcome!''

Go on.....Say it!

Bump

Napata77:


You have a lot to learn. Here's some education by Walter Rodney, famed writer of the book How Europe Underdeveloped Africa.. Here's what he wrote about the roots of tribalism in Nigeria:

''...it must be pointed out that nowhere in the history of pre-colonial Nigeria can anyone point to the massacre of Igbos by Hausas or any incident which suggests that people up to the nineteenth century were fighting each other because of ethnic origin. Of course there were wars, but they had a rational basis in trade rivalry, religious contentions, and the clashes of political expansion. What came to be called tribalism at the beginning of the new epoch of political independence in Nigeria was itself a product of the way that people were brought together under colonialism so as to be exploited. It was a product of administrative devices, of entrenched regional separations, of differential access by particular ethnic groups into colonial economy and culture.''

https://www.versobooks.com/blogs/4810-colonialism-as-a-system-for-underdeveloping-africa

In other words, use your head and quit being a toad and a British-built robot programmed to hate your African brother because of the BRITISH INVENTED POISON called ''tribe''.

Every morning you wake up and think you hate 'Hausas' or hate 'Yorubas' etc, just understand you are acting out a white man's evil programme.

Just like how a computer is infected with a virus and programmed to do harmful things. No difference.

The question is When will you delete the file?

Do you actually think that if tribe is jettisoned, the people called Nigerians will be united? Will you also jettison religion, culture and ideology?

The question is can Nigeria work? We have had since 1914 as a country, and since 1960 as a federal nation to answer that question. Nigeria has been a disaster and gets worse by the day

So we should all stop deceiving our selves, agree that the British colonial contraption called Nigeria is heading no where, agree to a peaceful break up, organise referendum and go our seperate ways

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gidgiddy:


Do you actually think that if tribe is jettisoned, the people called Nigerians will be united? Will you also jettison religion, culture and ideology?

The question is can Nigeria work? We have had since 1914 as a country, and since 1960 as a federal nation to answer that question. Nigeria has been a disaster and gets worse by the day

So we should all stop deceiving our selves, agree that the British colonial contraption called Nigeria is heading no where, agree to a peaceful break up, organise referendum and go our seperate ways

The ONLY PEOPLE complaining that ''we cannot live together'' are YOU ''IGBOS''.

The only people who daily insult Nigeria online and offline, calling it a ''zoo'' and ''disaster'' are you TRAITOROUS, UNPATRIOTIC 'IGBOS'.

You are greedy to secede and steal the oil and gas of the country.

Your problem is GREED and SELFISHNESS, allied to NARCISISSM.

The rest of Nigeria have NO PROBLEM with exploring ways of further unifying the nation.

11 million Igbos live peacefully in the north. 10 million in the rest of the country.

If we cannot live together, why have they not driven you from all those places?

What are YOU even doing there, since we ''cannot live together''?

It is YOU who cannot live with Nigerians because of your tribalist hate and bigotry.

AND IF YOU WANT TO SECEDE, DO SO ON YOUR OWN.

BE A HOLE IN A CIRCLE LIKE LESOTHO.

DON'T TELL US THE ENTIRE NIGERIA SHOULD BREAK UP BECAUSE A FEW 'IGBO' NARCISSISTS LIKE YOU ARE GREEDY FOR FREE NIGER DELTA OIL.

Napata77:


The ONLY PEOPLE complaining that ''we cannot live together'' are YOU ''IGBOS''.

The only people who daily insult Nigeria online and offline, calling it a ''zoo'' and ''disaster'' are you TRAITOROUS, UNPATRIOTIC 'IGBOS'.

You are greedy to secede and steal the oil and gas of the country.

Your problem is GREED and SELFISHNESS, allied to NARCISISSM.

The rest of Nigeria have NO PROBLEM with exploring ways of further unifying the nation.

11 million Igbos live peacefully in the north. 10 million in the rest of the country.

If we cannot live together, why have they not driven you from all those places?

What are YOU even doing there, since we ''cannot live together''?

It is YOU who cannot live with Nigerians because of your tribalist hate and bigotry.

AND IF YOU WANT TO SECEDE, DO SO ON YOUR OWN.

BE A HOLE IN A CIRCLE LIKE LESOTHO.

DON'T TELL US THE ENTIRE NIGERIA SHOULD BREAK UP BECAUSE A FEW 'IGBO' NARCISSISTS LIKE YOU ARE GREEDY FOR FREE NIGER DELTA OIL.

Better to be a circle like Lesotho, but in charge of my destiny, than to be part of poverty capital of the world, 8th most insecure country on earth and the all round failure called Nigeria

We Igbos will gain our independence and exit this long failed British colonial contraption called Nigeria