mrvitalis:

The President would also appoint minister for FCT so why can't he get 25% approval from people he would directly administer over

You’re right. It’s illegality! The President serves as the de-facto governor of the FCT. How do you rule over those that didn’t vote you into office??

AntiTerrorist:
Sorry to and your questions with question.

In a secondary school, condition for promotion to the next class is for a Student to have at least 25% in 2/3 of all his subjects and English. If he passes all his subjects but fails English, would he be promoted.

I hope this is not Obi's lawyers will go and say in the court, else na koboko dem go take flog dem for their head.

muykem:
There's no such law in the first instance. 2/3 of 36 states and the F.C.T means F.C.T should not be excluded while calculating spread I.e 2/3 of 36states + F.C.T.

There is a hugh difference between + & and bro

Even in the probability, the calculation is different

BRIMBRAM:


I hope this is not Obi's lawyers will go and say in the court, else na koboko dem go take flog dem for their head.

Each of Obi's lawyer has sense pass all your entire past and present generations combined

Vado2:


The Constitution makes it quite explicit that you need to receive 25% in 2/3rd number of states AND the Federal Capital Territory, which emphasizes the significance.

The President chooses a minister-level administrator because He, the president doubles as the de facto governor of the Federal Capital Territory (FCT).

In an SSCE result, the FCT is just as unique as English or mathematics. It doesn't matter how many A’s you obtain; if you receive an F9 in English or Mathematics, you must retake the full examination; the same applies here.

Like I said, there is no provision or law that declares FCT as superior to any state of the federation. The FCT and the people living there are normal people. The only factor that can make Abuja unique in this parlance is if all the inhabitants are delegates from each state of the federation.

There is difference between "25% from 2/3 of the states and the FCT" and "25% from 2/3 of the states and 25% of the FCT" or "25% from 2/3 of the states, and the FCT".

If emphasis must be placed on the English usage here, only the second and third statements make FCT outright must-have but the first statement will be interpreted as an optional state since no constitution made FCT more important than other states in Nigeria.

TechGallery:


Like I said, there is not provision or law that declares FCT as superior to any state of the federation. It is just the FCT and the people living there are normal people. The only factor that can make Abuja unique in this parlance is if all the inhabitants are delegates from each state of the federation.

There is difference between "25% from 2/3 of the states and the FCT" and "25% from 2/3 of the states and 25% of the FCT" or "25% from 2/3 of the states, and the FCT".

If the emphasis must be placed on the English usage here, only the second and third statements make FCT outright must-have but the first statement will be interpreted as an optional state since no constitution made FCT more important than other states in Nigeria.

Given that it has already been established that the FCT is not a state and that the constitution calls for 25% in the 2/3rd number of states AND FCT, which asserts that obtaining a 25% in the FCT + 2/3rd of all the states (which FCT is not a part of ) is a requirement before you can be declared as a president.

The constitution says “There shall be 36 states and the FCT. @Techgallery, what do you understand by that statement??

TechGallery:


Like I said, there is no provision or law that declares FCT as superior to any state of the federation. The FCT and the people living there are normal people. The only factor that can make Abuja unique in this parlance is if all the inhabitants are delegates from each state of the federation.

There is difference between "25% from 2/3 of the states and the FCT" and "25% from 2/3 of the states and 25% of the FCT" or "25% from 2/3 of the states, and the FCT".

If emphasis must be placed on the English usage here, only the second and third statements make FCT outright must-have but the first statement will be interpreted as an optional state since no constitution made FCT more important than other states in Nigeria.

Stop confusing your self, what is the difference between your first and third statement.

Vado2:


Given that it has already been established that the FCT is not a state and that the constitution calls for 25% in the 2/3rd number of states AND FCT, which asserts that obtaining a 25% in the FCT + 2/3rd of all the states (which FCT is not a part of ) is a requirement before you can be declared as a president.

"He/she must secure not less than 25% of the votes cast in at least two-thirds of all the states of the federation and the FCT"

Let's break the above down again. If the statement means "25% in two-thirds of 36 States and 25% in the FCT", can we deduce the below statement by that logic?

"25% in two-thirds of the 36 States and 25% in two-thirds of the FCT"?

Is it safe to arrive at the above logic from the statement without minding if FCT is just one location or not?

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derealj:


Stop confusing your self, what is the difference between your first and third statement.

Read very well and you will see the difference.

Vado2:
The constitution says “There shall be 36 states and the FCT. @Techgallery, what do you understand by that statement??

It means we have 36 states and the FCT. It does not connote that residents of the FCT carry more electoral value or weight than the residents of Anambra or Kano.

“He or she must secure not less than 25% of votes cast in at least two-thirds of all the the states of the federation and FCT”.

The “and" in the statement is a conjunction, and it is used to connect the parts two parts of the statement.

The first statement “He or she must secure not less than 25% of votes cast in at least two-thirds of all the states of the federation” means that 25% of votes must be secured in two-thirds of the 36 states.

and FCT," refers to the inclusion of the Federal Capital Territory (FCT) in the calculation. Very simple. I think people arguing this are just trying to be mischievous that’s all.

TechGallery:


It means we have 36 states and the FCT. It does not connote that residents of the FCT carry more electoral value or weight than the residents of Anambra or Kano.

Like the FCT, English language and mathematics are not subjects that are more superior than others. To advance to the next level, you must pass this core subjects, just as you must receive a minimum of 25% in the FCT to be declared the election's winner.

Vado2:


Like the FCT, English language and mathematics are not subjects that are more superior than others. To advance to the next level, you must pass this core subjects, just as you must receive a minimum of 25% in the FCT to be declared the election's winner.

English and Mathematics are core subjects, more important subjects, for the University admissions or exams in Nigeria but FCT is not a core state or more important than any other state. That is the difference. At least no constitution states that.

muykem:
There's no such law in the first instance. 2/3 of 36 states and the F.C.T means F.C.T should not be excluded while calculating spread I.e 2/3 of 36states + F.C.T.

It is only an interpretation in which the Supreme Court will rule in favor of Bola Tinubu & APC.

agemmy113:
Brother I will like to ask you few questions
1. What makes 25% in Abuja more important than other state.
2. Does people in Abuja more quality than people in other state, that makes there vote have value than other states
3. Why would you include English and mathematics to this
(a) it is believed if you can't pass English that was used to asked the questions, how did you read and pass the exam.
It is required that any student in Nigeria know basic English
I know many people hate Tinubu for personal reasons but that doesn't mean the hatred you block our eyes from seeing the truth.
Thanks

Ask the drafters of the constitution or ask the courts to interpret that section of the constitution. Or is that what PO is doing - seeking interpretation?

TechGallery:


English and Mathematics are core subjects, more important subjects, for the University admissions or exams in Nigeria but FCT is not a core state or more important than any other state. That is the difference. At least no constitution states that.

English language and mathematics are not more superior subjects, they are core subjects, just as F.C.T. is a core territory that must be won before you can be sworn in as president regardless of whether you get 99% of the votes cast in the 36 states of the federation.

If get you get 99% of all the votes in the 36 states of the federation and not get 25% in FCT you can’t be declared winner as stated by the constitution, doesn’t that make it a core territory, just like English and Mathematics??

Vado2:


Educate yourself


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43_mR6Z9-3w

Na wa for you ooo. I said bring up the case and you are bring up IPOB lawyer. There was no case like that.

AntiTerrorist:
Sorry to answer your questions with question.

Look at this analogy:

In a secondary school, condition for promotion to the next class is for a Student to have at least 25% in 2/3 of the 12 subjects in the curriculum AND English. If he passes all his subjects but fails Sports, wouldn't he be promoted?

Sorry the error in the sentence is English is a subject. So I reconstructed the sentence. Replace the bolded English with e.g SPORTS which receives a grade but is not a subject in your sentence then u see the meaning changes. Because Abuja is not a state (but give a status of state) you can't refer to it as state but FcT as stated in the constitution.

When you look at the new sentence
In a secondary school, condition for promotion to the next class is for a Student to have at least 25% in 2/3 of the 12 subjects in the curriculum AND SPORTS. If he passes all his subjects but fails English, would he be promoted. If the student fails Sport? Won't he be promoted?

muykem:
Your analogy is unreasonable and myopic. English and Mathematics have special status in our education system. It was copied from our colonial master education system.
Is Abuja residence have special status in our constitution and where did we copied it from?

Same 25% Was copied from the American system, theirs is presidential system of govt.

Vado2:


English language and mathematics are not more superior subjects, they are core subjects, just as F.C.T. is a core territory that must be won before you can be sworn in as president regardless of whether you get 99% of the votes cast in the 36 states of the federation.

If get you get 99% of all the votes in the 36 states of the federation and not get 25% in FCT you can’t be declared winner as stated by the constitution, doesn’t that make it a core territory, just like English and Mathematics??

English and Mathematics are compulsory subjects which make them more valuable and important than all other subjects. For you to be admitted, you MUST pass the two. Every other subject is optional as long as you can have three additional credits in any of the rest, you can get admitted even if you aren't given your desired course to study. But in the case of the election, there is no law that makes FCT or its residents more important than any of the 36 States. If FCT is more important, then while conducting election there on the same date with the rest of the states?

surgical:
The law was reviewed because of the 12 2/3 of 19 fiasco between chief obafemi awolowo and alhaji sheu Shagari where the federal capital was interpreted to be a state in the calculations because it was specified but now it has been specified as stand alone as far as presidential election is concerned
Adiminstatvely it should be accorded the status of a state, every thing has been specified by the constitution you can't deviate from prescriptions of the constitution

For me ,I'm not a lawyer .Let the fire 🔥 works begin.I think ,this and the shetima issue are all deliberate distractions to the main issues in the petition.
The forfeiture vs indictment (drug)case is even stronger since the US court will come and testify and interprete their laws to us.(Probably the CJN might be the one to put an end to it.
Also,whether INEC followed thier guide lines which gives flesh to the electorial act also has some strength.
Finally,the strongest case is if either the PDP could prove that they have more lawful vote than declared by INEC.nothing that once tye BiVAS establishes over voting anywhere ,what ever result gotten in that polling unit is zero as declared by the court in the Osun case .

muykem:
intepret this word "SHARE 60B NAIRA TO 36 STATES AND THE FCT."

Hmmm.....the context you are stating is different from what is the base argument. Based your argument on REQUIREMENTS.

Omowale2023:

Hmmm.....the context you are stating is different from what is the base argument. Based your argument on REQUIREMENTS.

There is a spirit of constitution I.e what it set to achieve. Did writer of constitution intend to make Abuja residence superior or equal to other Nigerian? The same constitution says every Nigerian are equal irrespective of where you are coming from.

A better analogy
Take this $37 million and share it equally between the 36 states AND Abuja

Should that mean give Abuja $18.5million and t he 36 states get $18.5million

IVORY2009:


Likewise this 25% copied from the America’s system

you're right, our constitution copy from US,
And you don't need to get any percentage vote from Washington before you can be declared winner

IVORY2009:


Likewise this 25% copied from the America’s system

Not true
They use an electoral college system m each state has a number of votes based on population you win a state
you get ALL the votes
E.g California has 54
New York 30
Iowa 6
Texas 40

To win a candidate must get 270 votes

He will get all the votes for a state of He wins by 1 vote

TechGallery:


English and Mathematics are compulsory subjects which make them more valuable and important than all other subjects. For you to be admitted, you MUST pass the two. Every other subject is optional as long as you can have three additional credits in any of the rest, you can get admitted even if you aren't given your desired course to study. But in the case of the election, there is no law that makes FCT or its residents more important than any of the 36 States. If FCT is more important, then while conducting election there on the same date with the rest of the states?

If English and mathematics are compulsory, as you said, then the Federal Capital Territory (FCT) is a “compulsory” territory that must be won in order for you to be declared the victor as president, regardless of whether you also win all 36 of the other states in the federation. The territory is what is in question, not whether the people are unique. I hope you comprehend. I apologize for the delayed response; I have been busy all week long.

IF YOU DON’T get 25% OF THE VOTES CAST IN THE FCT, ALL THE FIGURES YOU HAVE GOTTEN FROM OTHER STATES IS USELESS, SAME APPLIES TO ENGLISH AND MATHEMATICS TO OTHER SUBJECTS.

Vado2:
For everyone who is asking whether F.C.T. will be significant and what sense it will make if someone wins all the states but fails to receives at least 25% in F.C.T.

Will you be admitted with your SSCE score if you receive all A's but fail to get at least a C6 in mathematics?

Yes.
If you can forge your certificate.

KanwuliaExtra:


Yes.
If you can forge your certificate.

😂 😂

BRIMBRAM:


That analogy using the Waec is the best their brain can offer which is a faulty analogy with respect to when it comes to the court of law.

Did the constitution mention that FCT should be treated "as if it were" a state? Yes

Did the constitution mention that the president also act as the governor of FCT? Yes

Can an individual become governor of a state without getting 25% in 2/3rd of the state? NO

Case closed⚖️. If you like cry from now till next year OBi and Ipob bingos will rule over you and your family. 🤣