PO one need only four regions to win Nigeria presidency why singling out the East only

spearman:
IGBOS WERE A TOTALLY UNKNOWN ENTITY IN THIS MODERN CIVILIZATION.

Many igbos in today's Nigeria will tell you gleefully that "we have invested more in Nigeria than any other tribes/ethnic groups".
By that statement they are telling you that the Igbo man as a trader is the only person [ except perhaps his arch rival, the Fulani ] you are sure to meet in every hamlet, village, town, city and state in Nigeria.
They tell you that " we are everywhere contributing to the various local communities"
They will tell you that "we developed Lagos, Abuja and every parts of Nigeria"
They will.tell you that " we own all the buildings in Lagos and Abuja "
These statements are very common and from then the average Igbo Zionist harbours in his heart an entitlement mentality by which he makes demands of you on your space. They same demands you won't even dare to ask from him on his own space.
You hear this statement from virtually every Igbo man you meet, practically ALL of them, even the most reserved, most rational and most sensible amongst them.
They say these things freely and openly.
Peter Obi has said these things SEVERAL TIMES on National TV.
Emmanuel Iwuanyanwu said it recently before the world in Awka, Anambra State.
But it is a folly of a statement intended to hoodwink the gullible who aren't vast in history.
I will tell you some things today. Please feel free to draw me back where and when you think I got it wrong.
1. There is no part of our PRE-1914 HISTORY that is known to me which suggests in any way that the Igbos were the kinds of "Nomadic" traders they are today.

Until the European Colonial People came at the tail end of the 19th century, the IGBOS WERE A TOTALLY UNKNOWN ENTITY IN THIS MODERN CIVILIZATION. It was the appearance of the Missionaries, who came ahead of the Colonialist, which exposed the Igbos of today's South-East to the modern world and they began travelling as Missionaries outside their FOREST DWELLINGS.
Until 1914, the igbos weren't any factor of reckoning in Nigeria and infact it was ONLY THE OBONG OF CALABAR AND NOBODY ELSE who was consulted in the whole of that axis to join others in the civilized world concerning the matter of 1914 amalgamation of North and South Nigeria.

Whereas,
CENTURIES before 1914, Yoruba Traders of Iwo, Ogbomoso, Àjàsé, Egba, Ijebu etc were noted in history to have been great travellers who transacted trade deals with Hausas and Kanuri of Northern Nigeria and with the people from as far away as Timbuktu in today's Mali.
CENTURIES before 1914, Hausa and Kanuri Traders were actively dealing with the Arabs of the Middle East Asia.
CENTURIES before 1914, Yoruba Traders of Egba, Àjàsé , Ijebu, Awori lands were already in trading deals with the Europeans even before
Slavery got into the mix.

CENTURIES before 1914, the Itsekiris, Binis, Efik, Ibibios, Ijaws of Opobo [ which the Igbo now lay claim over ] were already trading with Europe and amongst other ethnic groups of today's Nigeria.

CENTURIES before 1914, the Yorubas of today's SW, Binis of today's Edo, Itshekiris of today's Delta, Efik of today's Cross River and several other ethnic groups in the South and North of today's Nigeria had FLOURISHING CIVILIZATION complete with a SOCIAL ORDER REGULATED BY MONARCHIES.

The Igbos of today's South-East [ Not the Aniomas ] were never part of that civilization but roaming wildly in the FOREST DWELLINGS.
The igbos were never mentioned in any of those history known to me that I have read.
The igbos were NEVER going about in trade missions to anywhere outside of their various hamlets where they counted their years by market days.

Those guys were just barbarians roaming about the forests with wrappers and their animal instincts.
They were NEVER the people they pretend to be today.

2. The igbos may have been trading amongst themselves in their South-East areas but they were never known to be dealing OUTSIDE of their immediate areas until much later after 1914.

3. The first set of igbos who explored other lands outside Igbo land weren't traders but mostly missionaries and civil servants

4. The phenomenon of TRADING by the igbos in SW YORUBA LAND didn't fully start until after the civil war in the 1970s.
Before 1970, majority of Igbos in Yoruba land were civil servants, office people and not many were traders.

5. The activity of TRADING AND APPRENTICESHIP SCHEME of the IGBOS is an excuse, a well oiled "UNDERGROUND RAILROAD" for the migration of their population from their landlocked areas to places like the South-West.

Trading was the "CONDUIT PIPE'" for the mass movement of their disorderly population of badly trained Youths into Yoruba land and other parts of Nigeria.
Between 1940 and Independence in 1960, the igbos had used the underground railroad of TRADING to circulate their population in Northern Nigeria. They had had great faith in the lousy statement of Azikiwe that "Nigeria was the inheritance of the igbos" so they were positioning all over the country.
At that time the SW wasn't too easy as the wave of political awareness and solidarity amongst the Yorubas was tight .
The IGBO ZIONISTS didn't start to look at the Western Region of Yorubas until after the civil when the Northeners and the Ikwerre people of today's Rivers State had dealt them blows.
They located SW and narrowed on Lagos.
It wasn't until the 1980s through the help of Obasanjo did they find their footing in Lagos
They had the ZIONIST FUNDS [ obtained most from DRUG related crimes ] to support their them as SEED CAPITAL for whatever businesses they chose and there was no way anyone could have competed with them.
With their ZIONIST FUNDS they established HUGE "MARKETS" all over the place big enough to accommodate the continuous migration of their population to achieve DEMOGRAPHIC ALTERATIONS in the lands they occupy.
6. Before the War, Igbo youths weren't coming to Lagos because they operated from the Portharcourt Ports and did most of their businesses in the East.
They completely overwhelmed the people of today's Rivers and Beyelsa state in those days and it's infact the reason of the merciless action of "abandoned property" saga in Portharcourt.
The indigenous people of Portharcourt rose and SEIZED all Igbo Properties on their land during and after the war.
Such thing didn't happen in Lagos or anywhere in the SW during and father the war. YORUBAS never did such but KEPT their properties for them even with rents accrued over three years
It is the reason that till this day the average Igbo trader feel more comfortable in the SW, 600miles from his land, than the Portharcourt which is less than 40miles to Aba.
That hospitality borne out of ignorance of the typical Igbo man is the crime of Yorubas for which we have today been robbed of sound sleep.
7. You claim you developed Lagos even when Lagos didn't invite you to develop her. Whereas, in actual sense and in reality you guys RUINED LAGOS.
Between 1983 and 1999 the MILITARY AND IGBO ZIONISTS RUINED AND STAGNATED LAGOS.
Unless you suffer memory loss or you are stupid you should be able to remember exactly what Lagos was reduced to as at 1999.
The ZIONISTS messed up our environment, overstretched our infrastructure, soiled our morality and totally brutalized our social order
But they can't know unless you told them.
These things are already happening in Abeokuta today and I will write about it in my next post.
NOTHING GOOD COMES OUT OF THE ZIONISTS WHEN THEY STAY WITH YOU BECAUSE THEIR MISSION WAS NEVER TO HELP BUT TO DESTROY AND CONQUER YOUR LAND
© Adedamola Adetayo
28 March 2023

Aros were the greatest pre colonial traders in Nigeria

Blackpanda, your number 3 is very true.

Lotsa Nigerians has short term memory.

The same people who filled the streets with jubilation in 2015, by installing their packaged saviour Buhari, are now cursing & cussing him, when he's about to complete 8 years.

MXrep:

Why isolate SE? Obasanjo won without SW, GEJ won without core north. Every region need others more than others need them.

what do u mean by core north

KanwuliaExtra:


You left out the betrayers of the SWaste.

how did Yorubas betray igbos?

ELECTION IN NIGERIA.
*RE: TRIBAL JINGOISM*
*Call it whatever you want, but this is the BITTER TRUTH!*
Peter Obi IS FROM SOUTH EAST comprising Abia, Anambra, Ebonyi,
Enugu And Imo States. His party (Labour Party) won these areas with the following votes:
Abia - 88%
Anambra - 95%
Ebonyi - 80%
Enugu - 94%
Imo- 77%
No Presidential Candidate - Tinubu, Atiku or Kwankaso won 25% in any Igboland or South East!
The results in South East could only happen in the old SOVIET UNION! South East was the cesspit of rigging during 2003, 2007, 2011, 2015, 2019 and now more glaringly in 2023 Elections from the above stated results!
SOUTH EAST is the only geopolitical zone in Nigeria that refused to open up to other Nigerians!
Igboland for Igbos only?
Who is a fool?
Who is a tribalist?
Is this the Nigeria of our dream?
Love begets Love! Trust begets Trust!
In Atiku's region, Atiku didn't win all the states, Tinubu won one, Tinubu won Borno.
In Tinubu's region, Tinubu didn't win all the states, Atiku won in Osun while Obi won Lagos.
But in Obi's region, Obi cleared all the 5 states.
No outsider (presidential candidate) won any of the States in the entire South-East.
Tinubu and Atiku didn't even meet up the 25% of the votes mark, Tinubu made 0% in Anambra and 1% in some of the Eastern states likewise Atiku.
When you point a finger at some, four are pointing back at you.
You accused others of tribalism but with this analysis, it is clear which tribe is doing tribalism, No outsider won in your region, no outsider made the 25% votes mark. Nawaooo.
Or were the elections in the South East not rigged because the lowest percentage Obi got was in Imo........77%,
Anambra...95%
Enugu........94%
Ebonyi.......80%
Abia...........88%
Tinubu's percentage in his own region
Lagos........45%
Ondo.........67%
Oyo...........56%
Ogun.........59%
Ekiti...........65%
Osun.........47%
Atiku's percentage in his own region
Adamawa...57%
Taraba........38%
Borno.........41%
Bauchi........50%
Gombe.......63%
Yobe...........52%
*Statistics don't lie*
Now, where does the tribalism lies?*

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Godwin4444:
how did Yorubas betray igbos?

Unlike you, I am not orally or anally-fixated with anything Igbo.
I think in terms of Nigeria only.
Not a 'regional-minded' entity like most of you.

blackpanda:


1. There is no such thing as a successful honest politician. All have soiled fingers.
2. The political power in Nigeria resides with the north. The only way to defeat them is if east and south unify, but its impossible
3. Nigerians are emotional voters with selective memory. They will forgive all evil if they like you.
4. Nigerians are highly religious and tribalistic
5. You dont need the east to win Presidential elections. 25% is more than enough
6. The east needs other regions to produce the President, otherwise no way.
7. All political parties are riggers. The winners is who can rig the best and defend it in Court
8. Money answereth all things. What money cannot do, more money can do it.
9. Corruption can never be eliminated in Nigeria. Same as vote buying.
10. Do we even need democracy i'm not sure.

Power does not reside in the North. . . THE SOUTH GIVES THE NORTH POWER. . . .BY SELLING OUT THEMSELVES.

ubest1:
PO one need only four regions to win Nigeria presidency why singling out the East only

For anyone to win the elections without the North, you need to win the SW,SE,SS and the entire middle Belt.

That is how PDP won elections against the far North in 2003, 2007 and 2011.

Obi only got SE, and some parts of the middle belt. He was nowhere in the SW, except Lagos., and nowhere in Kwara, Kogi, Niger, and the rest of the North.

Seun as you can see, this is a tribal thread opened to whip up tribal slurs and attack.
I think it's just a way of testing your resolve because this same Op was on that of yours about ending tribal slurs.

It's should to be closed now and not allowed to survive another post.

Mynd44 lalasticlala rule 2.

KanwuliaExtra:



Unlike you, I am not orally or anally-fixated with anything Igbo.
I think in terms of Nigeria only.
Not a 'regional-minded' entity like most of you.

Lol @anally

BeardedmeatR:
Seun as you can see, this is a tribal thread opened to whip up tribal slurs and attack.
I think it's just a way of testing your resolve because this same Op was on that of yours about ending tribal slurs.

It's should to be closed now and not allowed to survive another post.

Mynd44 lalasticlala rule 2.

How is this a tribal thread I believe you can read.

S

spearman:
ELECTION IN NIGERIA.
*RE: TRIBAL JINGOISM*
*Call it whatever you want, but this is the BITTER TRUTH!*
Peter Obi IS FROM SOUTH EAST comprising Abia, Anambra, Ebonyi,
Enugu And Imo States. His party (Labour Party) won these areas with the following votes:
Abia - 88%
Anambra - 95%
Ebonyi - 80%
Enugu - 94%
Imo- 77%
No Presidential Candidate - Tinubu, Atiku or Kwankaso won 25% in any Igboland or South East!
The results in South East could only happen in the old SOVIET UNION! South East was the cesspit of rigging during 2003, 2007, 2011, 2015, 2019 and now more glaringly in 2023 Elections from the above stated results!
SOUTH EAST is the only geopolitical zone in Nigeria that refused to open up to other Nigerians!
Igboland for Igbos only?
Who is a fool?
Who is a tribalist?
Is this the Nigeria of our dream?
Love begets Love! Trust begets Trust!
In Atiku's region, Atiku didn't win all the states, Tinubu won one, Tinubu won Borno.
In Tinubu's region, Tinubu didn't win all the states, Atiku won in Osun while Obi won Lagos.
But in Obi's region, Obi cleared all the 5 states.
No outsider (presidential candidate) won any of the States in the entire South-East.
Tinubu and Atiku didn't even meet up the 25% of the votes mark, Tinubu made 0% in Anambra and 1% in some of the Eastern states likewise Atiku.
When you point a finger at some, four are pointing back at you.
You accused others of tribalism but with this analysis, it is clear which tribe is doing tribalism, No outsider won in your region, no outsider made the 25% votes mark. Nawaooo.
Or were the elections in the South East not rigged because the lowest percentage Obi got was in Imo........77%,
Anambra...95%
Enugu........94%
Ebonyi.......80%
Abia...........88%
Tinubu's percentage in his own region
Lagos........45%
Ondo.........67%
Oyo...........56%
Ogun.........59%
Ekiti...........65%
Osun.........47%
Atiku's percentage in his own region
Adamawa...57%
Taraba........38%
Borno.........41%
Bauchi........50%
Gombe.......63%
Yobe...........52%
*Statistics don't lie*
Now, where does the tribalism lies?*
KEEP PRAYING FOR ONE UNITED NIGERIA.
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Indeed it was the cesspit of rigging.

blackpanda:

1. There is no such thing as a successful honest politician. All have soiled fingers.
2. The political power in Nigeria resides with the north. The only way to defeat them is if east and south unify, but its impossible
3. Nigerians are emotional voters with selective memory. They will forgive all evil if they like you.
4. Nigerians are highly religious and tribalistic[/b]
5. You dont need the east to win Presidential elections. 25% is more than enough
6. The east needs other regions to produce the President, otherwise no way.
7. All political parties are riggers. The winners is who can rig the best and defend it in Court
8. Money answereth all things. What money cannot do, more money can do it.
9. Corruption can never be eliminated in Nigeria. Same as vote buying.
10. Do we even need democracy i'm not sure.

OP. You are on point.


1. They are all soiled. Peter Obi for example is exPDP.
You can't be in PDP and not be a crook. Also remember that Peter Obi demanded over 7 Billion naira from Willie Obiano.

2.
The political power resides with two region. One region can't do it all alone. Buhari lu le several times even until he formed an alliance with Tinubu's party for the SW.

3.
Peter Obi that Anambrans and fellow Igbos were cursing all over social media including nairaland for being one of the worst governors has been repackaged as the best thing since slice bread. It's either one of two things:
Tribalism
Or
Short memory.

4.
See point 3 above

5.
Buhari has won without the east twice and Tinubu now once.

6.
See point 2 above.

7.
Well, all party rigged to an extent.

8.
You don't even need money. As Nweke Junior described above. Jollof and Okpa is enough.

9.
Corruption is tough to eliminate. Do not start at all is the cure

10.
Democracy is not perfect but it's still the best form of government. Dictatorship, Communism, socialism e.t.c are worse.

The only lesson from this election is that rigging decides the winner.

Running a clean campaign and getting legitimate votes is a waste of time.

If this election stands, it means that there are only two ways to become president in Nigeria:
The first is military coup, and the second is civilian coup.
What happened on Feb 25th was a civilian coup.

Try to shame southeast is ridiculous.

The north that has produced most of the presidents, how has it affected their region positively? North still ranks 1st in terrorism, poverty and illiteracy.

spearman:
ELECTION IN NIGERIA.

*Call it whatever you want, but this is the BITTER TRUTH!*
Peter Obi IS FROM SOUTH EAST comprising Abia, Anambra, Ebonyi,
Enugu And Imo States. His party (Labour Party) won these areas with the following votes:
Abia - 88%
Anambra - 95%
Ebonyi - 80%
Enugu - 94%
Imo- 77%
No Presidential Candidate - Tinubu, Atiku or Kwankaso won 25% in any Igboland or South East!
The results in South East could only happen in the old SOVIET UNION! SouthEast was the cesspit of rigging during 2003, 2007, 2011, 2015, 2019 and now more glaringly in 2023 Elections from the above stated results!
SOUTHEAST is the only geopolitical zone in Nigeria that refused to open up to other Nigerians!
Igboland for Igbos only?
Who is a fool?
Who is a tribalist?

southeast voted for Obasanjo, Yar adua. Goodluck, When has southwest voted mostly for Igbo? When has north voted mostly for Igbo? Look in the mirror and you will see the answers to what you asked.

blackpanda:
1. There is no such thing as a successful honest politician. All have soiled fingers.
2. The political power in Nigeria resides with the north. The only way to defeat them is if east and south unify, but its impossible
3. Nigerians are emotional voters with selective memory. They will forgive all evil if they like you.
4. Nigerians are highly religious and tribalistic
5. You dont need the east to win Presidential elections. 25% is more than enough
6. The east needs other regions to produce the President, otherwise no way.
7. All political parties are riggers. The winners is who can rig the best and defend it in Court
8. Money answereth all things. What money cannot do, more money can do it.
9. Corruption can never be eliminated in Nigeria. Same as vote buying.
10. Do we even need democracy i'm not sure.

I agree with all your points except number 2. Power does not resides with the north but with all Nigerians. If power resides solely with the north, Buhari would have been president since 2003.

Power resides solely with the Nigerian people and only a candidate with a national base can win the presidential election. Tinubu is the only candidate in the last election that had the required national base and that’s why he won easily. Apart from the South east that voted strictly on ethnic line, Tinubu won at least a state in all the other five regions. No other candidate achieved that feat. He won core Christian states like Benue, Ekiti, Rivers, Ondo and won core Muslim states like Zamfara, Borno, Jigawa and Niger. He also won mixed states like Kwara, Kogi, Ogun and Oyo.

Peter Obi and Atiku did not get this kind of national support. Peter Obi only won Christian states in the south and north central. He couldn’t win a single state in the core Muslim regions of north east and north west. In fact, he only won in two states outside the south. No one can become the president of Nigeria by winning just 2 out of the 19 northern states.

Atiku on the other hand also lacked national base. He did not win a single state in the north central and south east. He struggled to win only two Christian states and one mixed states. No one can win the presidency with such a base.