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Re: ***************************** by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:31pm On Apr 02, 2023
MindHacker9009:
And where does it say in the Old Testasment that the new convenant is going to be based on a man been nailed to the cross and some Marys going into the tomb with anointing oil on the third day be the basis for a new religion?
The Jews themselves are confused regarding the identity of the Messiah because God's word said the Messiah will:

© Be born by a virgin and his name shall be called Emmanuel meaning "with us is God" Isaiah 7:14
© Be counted among criminals and executed! Isaiah 53:12
© Be betrayed for 30 pieces of silver coins! Zechariah 11:12 compare to Matthew 26:14
© Be cut off from among the living! Daniel 9:26
© Be buried without his bones broken like they used to do for executed criminals! Psalms 34:20 compare to John 19:36

Ọmọ you may love to dismiss all these because the Jews themselves has been condemned and they're still angry with their God for not sending a Messiah of their choice but there's nothing anyone can say against Jesus of Nazareth for we have all the proof that he is the promised Messiah! Act 2:36

Thank you! smiley
Re: ***************************** by MindHacker9009(op): 6:53pm On Apr 02, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
The Jews themselves are confused regarding the identity of the Messiah because God's word said the Messiah will:

© Be born by a virgin and his name shall be called Emmanuel meaning "with us is God" Isaiah 7:14
© Be counted among criminals and executed! Isaiah 53:12
© Be betrayed for 30 pieces of silver coins! Zechariah 11:12 compare to Matthew 26:14
© Be cut off from among the living! Daniel 9:26
© Be buried without his bones broken like they used to do for executed criminals! Psalms 34:20 compare to John 19:36

Ọmọ you may love to dismiss all these because the Jews themselves has been condemned and they're still angry with their God for not sending a Messiah of their choice but there's nothing anyone can say against Jesus of Nazareth for we have all the proof that he is the promised Messiah! Act 2:36

Thank you! smiley
"I will also make you a light for the Gentiles that my salvation may reach to the ends of the earth.” Isaiah 49:6

How can the Jews who the True God of the Old Testament has made a light to the gentiles be confused regarding the identity of their Messiah? If the Jews are confused regarding the identity of their Messiah then christians are very naive of the true Messiah and that's why you have accepted an invented messiah by the Roman empire as your messiah.

All you have listed above were put together by the Roman empire to invent your fake messiah
because the word in the
© The Hebrew word is a young woman not a virgin"
© Those the Roman empire crucified were not criminals but those believing they were the Messiah to free Israel from Roman occupation
© Be betrayed for 30 pieces of silver was added to the Jesus story to invent your fake messiah.
© Jesus was not cut off but crucified
© His bones were not broken so that they can use that to invent your fake messiah.

And again where does it say in the Old Testament that the new covenant is going to be based on an innocent man being nailed to the cross and some Marys going into his tomb with anointing oil on the third day be the basis for this new covenant?
Re: ***************************** by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:25pm On Apr 02, 2023
MindHacker9009:
"I will also make you a light for the Gentiles that my salvation may reach to the ends of the earth.” Isaiah 49:6
How can the Jews who the True God of the Old Testament has made a light to the gentiles be confused regarding the identity of their Messiah? If the Jews are confused regarding the identity of their Messiah then christians are very naive of the true Messiah and that's why you have accepted an invented messiah by the Roman empire as your messiah.
All you have listed above were put together by the Roman empire to invent your fake messiah
because the word in the
© The Hebrew word is a young woman not a virgin"
© Those the Roman empire crucified were not criminals but those believing they were the Messiah to free Israel from Roman occupation
© Be betrayed for 30 pieces of silver was added to the Jesus story to invent your fake messiah.
© Jesus was not cut off but crucified
© His bones were not broken so that they can use that to invent your fake messiah.
And again where does it say in the Old Testament that the new covenant is going to be based on an innocent man being nailed to the cross and some Marys going into his tomb with anointing oil on the third day be the basis for this new covenant?
Since you're dismissing what was WRITTEN then there's no need for further explanations.

Thanks for your time! smiley
Re: ***************************** by MindHacker9009(op): 2:12am On Apr 03, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
Since you're dismissing what was WRITTEN then there's no need for further explanations.
Thanks for your time! smiley
You are bringing up a made up story to support a FAKE messiah. GOD in the Old Testament has stated that HE will make the Jews a light for the Gentiles that my salvation may reach to the ends of the earth and GOD did not say HE would make the gentiles a light for the Jews.

"I will also make you a light for the Gentiles that my salvation may reach to the ends of the earth.” Isaiah 49:6

And again before you run away, where does it say in the Old Testament that the new covenant is going to be based on an innocent man being nailed to the cross and some Marys going into his tomb with anointing oil on the third day be the basis for this new covenant?
Re: ***************************** by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:34am On Apr 03, 2023
MindHacker9009:
You are bringing up a made up story to support a FAKE messiah. GOD in the Old Testament has stated that HE will make the Jews a light for the Gentiles that my salvation may reach to the ends of the earth and GOD did not say HE would make the gentiles a light for the Jews.

"I will also make you a light for the Gentiles that my salvation may reach to the ends of the earth.” Isaiah 49:6

And again before you run away, where does it say in the Old Testament that the new covenant is going to be based on an innocent man being nailed to the cross and some Marys going into his tomb with anointing oil on the third day be the basis for this new covenant?
What evidence do you have that the whole book wasn't made up?

A book written and copied by Jews but you're trying to say a part was made up simply because some Jews disagreed with what was written yet according to the one you claim to believe it has always been the attitude of this Jewish people to disbelieve prophets that says what they don't want to hear! smiley
Re: ***************************** by MindHacker9009(op):
MaxInDHouse:
What evidence do you have that the whole book wasn't made up?

A book written and copied by Jews but you're trying to say a part was made up simply because some Jews disagreed with what was written yet according to the one you claim to believe it has always been the attitude of this Jewish people to disbelieve prophets that says what they don't want to hear! smiley
Till today there are plenty of Jews that write and speak Hebrew and Aramaic so why was the New Testament first written in Greek if it was as you claimed that it's "A book written and copied by Jews"?

The New Testament was first translated into Hebrew by Elias Hutter in his Polyglott edition of the New Testament in 1599/ 1600. This was about 1,500 years since the first version was written in Greek. Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bible_translations_into_Hebrew

Here are the evidence that the New Testament was made up to fit in with the Old Testament
© The Hebrew word is a young woman not a virgin"
© Those the Roman empire crucified were not criminals but those believing they were the Messiah to free Israel from Roman occupation
© Be betrayed for 30 pieces of silver was added to the Jesus story to invent your fake messiah.
© Jesus was not cut off but crucified
© His bones were not broken so that they can use that to invent your fake messiah.

The Jews are not a programmed robot like you want people to be and just believe any FAKE New Testament account you tell them. God has instructed the Jews not to fear any prophet but to challenge them to check if they are a true prophet of GOD and not a FAKE.

And before you run away again, where does it say in the Old Testament that the new covenant is going to be based on an innocent man being nailed to the cross and some Marys going into his tomb with anointing oil on the third day be the basis for this new covenant?
Re: ***************************** by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:40am On Apr 04, 2023
MindHacker9009:
Till today there are plenty of Jews that write and speak Hebrew and Aramaic so why was the New Testament first written in Greek if it was as you claimed that it's "A book written and copied by Jews"?
The disciples of Christ first preached among the Jews but their religious leaders insisted they shouldn't preach about Jesus in their synagogues {Act 4:18; 5:28; 13:50; 14:2,19} in what language do you think those Jewish disciples of Christ were preaching to their brothers in their synagogues?
Well it's their own tongue "Hebrew" that's why apostles Paul could write a letter to his people attending the Hebrew speaking congregation! Hebrews 1:1

It was after much pressure, intimidation and persecution that they concluded to write all their accounts in the most popular language of their time - Greek

Today what Jesus uttered back then in his own mother tongue has been translated to thousands of languages today globally but what happens to the Jews and their pride?

Jesus said their house (land) has been abandoned {Matthew 23:38} they will cry and cry and cry nobody will welcome them in any land as servants of God while those believing in Jesus of Nazareth are loved, cared for and celebrated globally! smiley
Re: ***************************** by MindHacker9009(op): 2:27pm On Apr 04, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
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You have added your own made up stories to the already made up stories. The Words of GOD about the Jews still remains the same that He will make the Jews a light for the Gentiles, and not the Gentiles a light for the Jews as you have been trying to make it with made up stories.
"I will also make you a light for the Gentiles that my salvation may reach to the ends of the earth.” Isaiah 49:6

And before you run away again, where does it say in the Old Testament that the new covenant is going to be based on an innocent man being nailed to the cross and some Marys going into his tomb with anointing oil on the third day be the basis for this new covenant?

MaxInDHouse:
The disciples of Christ first preached among the Jews but their religious leaders insisted they shouldn't preach about Jesus in their synagogues {Act 4:18; 5:28; 13:50; 14:2,19} in what language do you think those Jewish disciples of Christ were preaching to their brothers in their synagogues?
Well it's their own tongue "Hebrew" that's why apostles Paul could write a letter to his people attending the Hebrew speaking congregation! Hebrews 1:1

It was after much pressure, intimidation and persecution that they concluded to write all their accounts in the most popular language of their time - Greek

Today what Jesus uttered back then in his own mother tongue has been translated to thousands of languages today globally but what happens to the Jews and their pride?

Jesus said their house (land) has been abandoned {Matthew 23:38} they will cry and cry and cry nobody will welcome them in any land as servants of God while those believing in Jesus of Nazareth are loved, cared for and celebrated globally! smiley
Re: ***************************** by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:45pm On Apr 04, 2023
MindHacker9009:
You have added your own made up stories to the already made up stories. The Words of GOD about the Jews still remains the same that He will make the Jews a light for the Gentiles, and not the Gentiles a light for the Jews as you have been trying to make it with made up stories.
"I will also make you a light for the Gentiles that my salvation may reach to the ends of the earth.” Isaiah 49:6
And before you run away again, where does it say in the Old Testament that the new covenant is going to be based on an innocent man being nailed to the cross and some Marys going into his tomb with anointing oil on the third day be the basis for this new covenant?
The God of Abraham promised the Israelites that they will become the light but when they kept turning against his prophets He declare:

I love those loving me, And those seeking me will find me. Proverbs 8:17

So the true God has raised up children for Abraham from other nations due to their faith and the love they showed for His name! Joel 2:32

I wonder the name those confused Jews have agreed to call upon for their salvation perhaps you think God has no option but to save them whether they're faithful or faithless! cheesy
Re: ***************************** by MindHacker9009(op): 3:01pm On Apr 04, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
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The True God of Israel has commanded "Not to add to the Torah commandments or their oral explanations. (Deuteronomy 13:1)" and did not raise up those that started a new religion of women going into a tomb on the third day with anointing oil on which a FAKE messiah was declared which you are now following and wants others to follow too like a programmed robot.

And before you run away again, where does it say in the Old Testament that the new covenant is going to be based on an innocent man being nailed to the cross and some Marys going into his tomb with anointing oil on the third day be the basis for this new covenant?

MaxInDHouse:
The God of Abraham promised the Israelites that they will become the light but when they kept turning against his prophets He declare:

I love those loving me, And those seeking me will find me. Proverbs 8:17

So the true God has raised up children for Abraham from other nations due to their faith and the love they showed for His name! Joel 2:32

I wonder the name those confused Jews have agreed to call upon for their salvation perhaps you think God has no option but to save them whether they're faithful or faithless! cheesy
Re: ***************************** by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:27pm On Apr 04, 2023
MindHacker9009:
The True God of Israel has commanded "Not to add to the Torah commandments or their oral explanations. (Deuteronomy 13:1)" and did not raise up those that started a new religion of women going into a tomb on the third day with anointing oil on which a FAKE messiah was declared which you are now following and wants others to follow too like a programmed robot. And before you run away again, where does it say in the Old Testament that the new covenant is going to be based on an innocent man being nailed to the cross and some Marys going into his tomb with anointing oil on the third day be the basis for this new covenant?
You've dismissed all the prophesies pointing to Jesus of Nazareth as the promised Messiah so there's no need asking for prophecies since you won't take it even though it's written in black and white! cheesy
Re: ***************************** by MindHacker9009(op): 4:36pm On Apr 04, 2023
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Re: ***************************** by MindHacker9009(op): 4:39pm On Apr 04, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
You've dismissed all the prophesies pointing to Jesus of Nazareth as the promised Messiah so there's no need asking for prophecies since you won't take it even though it's written in black and white! cheesy
Okay show the prophecies in the Old Testament that an innocent man being nailed to the cross and some Marys going into his tomb with anointing oil on the third day to be the fulfilment of those prophecies?
Re: ***************************** by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:47pm On Apr 04, 2023
MindHacker9009:
Okay show the prophecies in the Old Testament that an innocent man being nailed to the cross and some Marys going into his tomb with anointing oil on the third day to be the fulfilment of those prophecies?
Ọmọ stop deceiving yourself.
God's word has foretold enough to help honest hearted individuals see reasons that Jesus of Nazareth is the promised Messiah, calling for everything that happened to Jesus to be foretold only shows how faithless you are! wink
Re: ***************************** by MindHacker9009(op): 5:02pm On Apr 04, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ stop deceiving yourself.
God's word has foretold enough to help honest hearted individuals see reasons that Jesus of Nazareth is the promised Messiah, calling for everything that happened to Jesus to be foretold only shows how faithless you are! wink
If you are no the one deceiving yourself and wants other to be deceived and to base their faith on a FAKE pagan messiah then: Show the prophecies in the Old Testament that an innocent man being nailed to the cross and some Marys going into his tomb with anointing oil on the third day to anoint his body, to be the fulfilment of those prophecies?
Re: ***************************** by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:09pm On Apr 04, 2023
Person don blow you so tey all your face don swell up you still dey drag sey you no go gri! cheesy

All the evidences i have shown you on this thread is enough to help any honest hearted and sincere individual to know that if the old testament really worth considering then Jesus of Nazareth is indisputably the Messiah! wink

MindHacker9009:
If you are no the one deceiving yourself and wants other to be deceived and to base their faith on a FAKE pagan messiah then: Show the prophecies in the Old Testament that an innocent man being nailed to the cross and some Marys going into his tomb with anointing oil on the third day to anoint his body, to be the fulfilment of those prophecies?
Re: ***************************** by MindHacker9009(op): 5:15pm On Apr 04, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
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You are the one person don blow you so tey all your face don swell up you still dey drag sey you no go gri! If not you would have shown the prophecies in the Old Testament that an innocent man being nailed to the cross and some Marys going into his tomb with anointing oil on the third day to anoint his body, to be the fulfilment of those prophecies?

MaxInDHouse:
Person don blow you so tey all your face don swell up you still dey drag sey you no go gri! cheesy

All the evidences i have shown you on this thread is enough to help any honest hearted and sincere individual to know that if the old testament really worth considering then Jesus of Nazareth is indisputably the Messiah! wink
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