Brendaniel:


And you can't explain how?

Thats why i asked you were you born in the 90s

Fearyourcreator:

Thats why i asked you were you born in the 90s

What does that have to do with your explanation?

Brendaniel:


What does that have to do with your explanation?

Leave matter then

Brendaniel:


But does that give anyone the rights to stop anyone from voting,, if you support what MC Oluomo did in Lagos, then you have just permitted injustice as a means to prove a point, same thing northern Muslims do to Christians in the north in cases of blasphemy or, using injustice to prove a point, so what's the difference in both sides, one is politics the other is religion.

No one is justifying what Oluomo or anyone said. If not that he smartly turned it as a joke and debunked it, he would have been invited by police. Moreover, his particular statement was directed at a certain Mama Chukwudi unlike the Eze of Ajao Estate who naively or foolishly declared to all. It's wisdom.

Brendaniel:

Then on the issue of you saying it is just political thugs, we can as well say those doing it in the north are religious thugs but they keep doing the damage, people are getting hurt, people are getting killed because of religion or tribe, the reason the south sees the north as a religious hostile people is because of this same thing that is happening in Lagos now in the name o tribe, you said Igbos should not put mouth in Lagos politics same way the north is saying don't put mouth in their religion if not they are ready to kill.

where in the constitution is there punishment for doing such?

What then is the difference between what is happening in the north and what you guys are doing?

No traceable or known person ll kill anyhow in the north. No public figure will commit crimes like killings without being prosecuted. So those doing it it the north, west, east are political thugs, extremists etc.
I don't know how to explain further to you.
But the fact is politicians noticed that they can use divided and rule tactics for the masses. Irrespective of tribe. When they aroused Obi's camp, he n Obidients reacted angrily at some parts they were not meant to be angry. APC capitalized on all these.

Dindondin:

No one is justifying what Oluomo or anyone said. If not that he smartly turned it as a joke and debunked it, he would have been invited by police. Moreover, his particular statement was directed at a certain Mama Chukwudi unlike the Eze of Ajao Estate who naively or foolishly declared to all. It's wisdom.

No traceable or known person ll kill anyhow in the north. No public figure will commit crimes like killings without being prosecuted. So those doing it it the north, west, east are political thugs, extremists etc.
I don't know how to explain further to you.
But the fact is politicians noticed that they can use divided and rule tactics for the masses. Irrespective of tribe. When they aroused Obi's camp, he n Obidients reacted angrily at some parts they were not meant to be angry. APC capitalized on all these.

This is not just about the Igbos only, he made a statement that anyone who is not coming out to vote APC should just stay at home, the first statement already is an offense, what Now made it tribal was him calling mama Chukwudi, fine he said it was a joke, but how do you call something a joke and the statement you said was been repeated in almost every part of Lagos by street thugs on election day and not only that your statement you called a joke came to pass with violence.

Just imagine I came on line TV and threatened to kill the president, people spoke out and I said it was joke, only for the next day the president was assassinated.

Would anybody in the world accept my statement as a joke after that, please let's call a spade a spade, or is the president's life more important than those who lost their lives in Lagos on election day through violence.

On the other hand you are trying to say since he was not at any scene of any of the violence then you can't tie any violence to him, then why is Nnamdi KANU in prison today, was he ever at any scene of any violence in the south east?

Then lastly you said APC capitalized on the anger of Obidients, so the word capitalized can now be interchanged for committing a crime, depriving others of their constitutional rights, beating up citizens and getting away it.

So if you can make your neighbor angry at you then you can capitalize on it to beat him and deprive of him leaving house when it is constitutional rights and because he was angry at you the law should let you go Scot free...

There was no state in Nigeria that made that same statement that if you are not voting for this party don't come out if your house, the only person that tried it was a northern politician in his constituency and he was brought in for questioning immediately, and after the election because of the violence that happened in his constituency he was arrested, the case is still in court.

So why is Lagos different, your guess is as good as mine, Tinubu, and you expect people to feel safe under such a man as president....

A lot of you don't know how ruthless and wicked that man is, he is the reason I wanted Sanwo-Olu out, he is an oppressor and a very ruthless one, you guys think Buhari is a tyrant, Tinubu is a bigger tyrant, you must not oppose him, he hates opposition, that is why Lagos has been under his claws for more than 22 years, he will do anything even if it is to kill to have his way.

Well I have said my own, you can believe whatever you want, it is your constitutional right.

Brendaniel:


This is not just about the Igbos only, he made a statement that anyone who is not coming out to vote APC should just stay at home, the first statement already is an offense, what Now made it tribal was him calling mama Chukwudi, fine he said it was a joke, but how do you call something a joke and the statement you said was been repeated in almost every part of Lagos by street thugs on election day and not only that your statement you called a joke came to pass with violence.

Just imagine I came on line TV and threatened to kill the president, people spoke out and I said it was joke, only for the next day the president was assassinated.

Would anybody in the world accept my statement as a joke after that, please let's call a spade a spade, or is the president's life more important than those who lost their lives in Lagos on election day through violence.

On the other hand you are trying to say since he was not at any scene of any of the violence then you can't tie any violence to him, then why is Nnamdi KANU in prison today, was he ever at any scene of any violence in the south east?

Then lastly you said APC capitalized on the anger of Obidients, so the word capitalized can now be interchanged for committing a crime, depriving others of their constitutional rights, beating up citizens and getting away it.

So if you can make your neighbor angry at you then you can capitalize on it to beat him and deprive of him leaving house when it is constitutional rights and because he was angry at you the law should let you go Scot free...

There was no state in Nigeria that made that same statement that if you are not voting for this party don't come out if your house, the only person that tried it was a northern politician in his constituency and he was brought in for questioning immediately, and after the election because of the violence that happened in his constituency he was arrested, the case is still in court.

So why is Lagos different, your guess is as good as mine, Tinubu, and you expect people to feel safe under such a man as president....

A lot of you don't know how ruthless and wicked that man is, he is the reason I wanted Sanwo-Olu out, he is an oppressor and a very ruthless one, you guys think Buhari is a tyrant, Tinubu is a bigger tyrant, you must not oppose him, he hates opposition, that is why Lagos has been under his claws for more than 22 years, he will do anything even if it is to kill to have his way.

Well I have said my own, you can believe whatever you want, it is your constitutional right.

Posterity ll judge Tinubu. People have voted him. It's on him to prove genius and rule well and it's on him to misrule and see that God doesn't sleep.
See how FG is dragging Nwajagu. He made same mistake as Abiola, Kanu, El-Zakzaki, Igboho etc.
You don't come out to challenge a sitting govt.
They ll twist it and hang treason on you.
Sense is required in fighting for rights.
Tinubu himself ran away from Abacha instead of staying in Nigeria to be challenging June 12. If he had stayed, it's possible he ll be dead before 1998.
As for the Oluomo case. I v explained it severally but you are twisting my statement. His acts were wrong but he was cunny with his statement thereby making it controversial, passing his message but at same time removing incitements.
There are two videos. First was a video on morning of presidential election were a man that looked like Oluomo dished direct threats. That man should be fished out. He's not Oluomo but fake news carriers started sending it around.
Towards Lagos Guber, Oluomo did the Mama Chukwudi stuff.
So you can see how cunny the situation is. It's not cos he enjoyed Tinubu's protection but cos he capitalised on a political situation.
I m not here to justify such. In fact laws should be made that anyone should not joke anyhow and say na joke. Joke or true, any incitement should be punished.
So bro, let's hope for a good tenure under Tinubu.
Last last, na all of us go be Obidient.
Not about Obi but a clamour for good democracy we all yearn.

Dindondin:

Posterity ll judge Tinubu. People have voted him. It's on him to prove genius and rule well and it's on him to misrule and see that God doesn't sleep.
See how FG is dragging Nwajagu. He made same mistake as Abiola, Kanu, El-Zakzaki, Igboho etc.
You don't come out to challenge a sitting govt.
They ll twist it and hang treason on you.
Sense is required in fighting for rights.
Tinubu himself ran away from Abacha instead of staying in Nigeria to be challenging June 12. If he had stayed, it's possible he ll be dead before 1998.
As for the Oluomo case. I v explained it severally but you are twisting my statement. His acts were wrong but he was cunny with his statement thereby making it controversial, passing his message but at same time removing incitements.
There are two videos. First was a video on morning of presidential election were a man that looked like Oluomo dished direct threats. That man should be fished out. He's not Oluomo but fake news carriers started sending it around.
Towards Lagos Guber, Oluomo did the Mama Chukwudi stuff.
So you can see how cunny the situation is. It's not cos he enjoyed Tinubu's protection but cos he capitalised on a political situation.
I m not here to justify such. In fact laws should be made that anyone should not joke anyhow and say na joke. Joke or true, any incitement should be punished.
So bro, let's hope for a good tenure under Tinubu.
Last last, na all of us go be Obidient.
Not about Obi but a clamour for good democracy we all yearn.

This is not about Obi or whether it was MC Oluomo who made the statements or not, this so about the future of Nigeria, you think if they all get away with this even Wike, that the next election will be better, I can tell you with all confidence that it will be worse, it is not swear and you don't need a sooth sayer to tell you that it will be worse, from 2015 the elections have been taking this dimension and it has been getting worse in terms of violence.

The more people get away with it, the more violent it will be in the next election. What it simply means is that if you want to win election, you should be the most violent person and it is the electorate that will suffer most.

If this is allowed to sail then I'm done with anything election in Nigeria, you might say but some people got elected properly, that is a drop of sanity that occured in the ocean of insanity, a lot if people don't know how bad this thing can get in the nearest future.

Sometimes people use the statement that our country is still young that most countries in the world passed through this stage and I just laugh at their ignorance, the reason why history is written is to learn from history and avoid errors and mistakes of other people.

I will use the case of Liberia, at some point during Charles Taylor's time, they lined people who came out to vote and where cutting of their hands, the question people should be asking when reading such is how did they get there, do you know that Liberia is about over 200 years old, they gained independence in the 18th century, they had a normal country where they were electing their presidents, in fact an Igbo man was their 3rd president or so.

How did they get to that stage of cutting people's hands during election, the country became a shadow of what a country should be like, I grew up knowing Liberia as nonsense country, it took George Bush's intervention to restore peace in the country and till date their country cannot boast of any thing tangible like that.

Do you know why, at some point they had greedy and heartleas leaders like Tinubu, Wike,Uzondinma and co, who piloted the affairs of their country for a long period, the country was on constant descent like what is happening in Nigeria today till it got to the level of cutting of people's hands during election day.

Do we have to wait till it gets to that level or wait for foreign intervention, can't we all behave like normal human beings?

Why must some people act like animals, I watched documentary of Liberia and I shook my head.

Tomorrow more politicians who have seen the successes of Tinubu, Wike, Uzondinma and co who rig and go violent on election day will tow the same path, they are teaching others, if you are trying to do the right thing you are looked upon as a fool who will only waste his time and money.

Brendaniel:


This is not about Obi or whether it was MC Oluomo who made the statements or not, this so about the future of Nigeria, you think if they all get away with this even Wike, that the next election will be better, I can tell you with all confidence that it will be worse, it is not swear and you don't need a sooth sayer to tell you that it will be worse, from 2015 the elections have been taking this dimension and it has been getting worse in terms of violence.

The more people get away with it, the more violent it will be in the next election. What it simply means is that if you want to win election, you should be the most violent person and it is the electorate that will suffer most.

If this is allowed to sail then I'm done with anything election in Nigeria, you might say but some people got elected properly, that is a drop of sanity that occured in the ocean of insanity, a lot if people don't know how bad this thing can get in the nearest future.

Sometimes people use the statement that our country is still young that most countries in the world passed through this stage and I just laugh at their ignorance, the reason why history is written is to learn from history and avoid errors and mistakes of other people.

I will use the case of Liberia, at some point during Charles Taylor's time, they lined people who came out to vote and where cutting of their hands, the question people should be asking when reading such is how did they get there, do you know that Liberia is about over 200 years old, they gained independence in the 18th century, they had a normal country where they were electing their presidents, in fact an Igbo man was their 3rd president or so.

How did they get to that stage of cutting people's hands during election, the country became a shadow of what a country should be like, I grew up knowing Liberia as nonsense country, it took George Bush's intervention to restore peace in the country and till date their country cannot boast of any thing tangible like that.

Do you know why, at some point they had greedy and heartleas leaders like Tinubu, Wike,Uzondinma and co, who piloted the affairs of their country for a long period, the country was on constant descent like what is happening in Nigeria today till it got to the level of cutting of people's hands during election day.

Do we have to wait till it gets to that level or wait for foreign intervention, can't we all behave like normal human beings?

Why must some people act like animals, I watched documentary of Liberia and I shook my head.

Tomorrow more politicians who have seen the successes of Tinubu, Wike, Uzondinma and co who rig and go violent on election day will tow the same path, they are teaching others, if you are trying to do the right thing you are looked upon as a fool who will only waste his time and money.

What do we do?
We have seen the mechanism used in this election. Why not collabo to stop it towards 2027.
I m here to tell you that let there be real Obidient.
I know it's not a out Oluomo, Obi etc.
Real Obidient is the union of all concerned Nigerians.
When we have a solid vote from southwest to southeast and then to north and all other regions. Corrupt politicians ll have no place to hide.
Calling for protests, incitements etc will be termed as treason.
LP would have won the last elections if it was able to convince everyone decisively. Larger part of south west went to APC. Larger part of north went to PDP, APC and NNPP.

Dindondin:

What do we do?
We have seen the mechanism used in this election. Why not collabo to stop it towards 2027.
I m here to tell you that let there be real Obidient.
I know it's not a out Oluomo, Obi etc.
Real Obidient is the union of all concerned Nigerians.
When we have a solid vote from southwest to southeast and then to north and all other regions. Corrupt politicians ll have no place to hide.
Calling for protests, incitements etc will be termed as treason.
LP would have won the last elections if it was able to convince everyone decisively. Larger part of south west went to APC. Larger part of north went to PDP, APC and NNPP.

Bro I won't lie to you, it is not going to work, you think those who came out peacefully to vote did not have the same idea as you have shared, that was why they came out to vote, the problem is the institutions that guard the constitution of a country, if they are not held accountable then all your efforts will mean nothing.

I told someone here that even if they lumped all the other parties together in one and contested against Tinubu, INEC will still declare Tinubu winner because that is what it means when someone becomes bigger than the institution, you don't know why I said I will leave anything election in Nigeria if these people are allowed to have their way, it is not because of what they did only but because the institutions that should have worked for Nigerians.

Injustice becomes the order of the day, bow do you think some African presidents have rule for over 30 years, the truth is they have become than all the institutions in that country and by virtue of that become bigger than the country.

Who can hold them accountable? Nobody, you think a Tinubu who his way when he was not president will let anyone unsit him when he is president, even if his tenure was 100times worse than Buhari, he will not give anyone a chance to do that, as it stands he is bigger than most institutions in Nigeria, I am only praying the courts will prove otherwise, if not then he is virtually bigger than Nigeria.

Reason I told you I will be done with anything election or democracy self as a whole because no amount of opposition will change anything, a template has been set and that template will be on rinse and repeat.

Brendaniel:


Bro I won't lie to you, it is not going to work, you think those who came out peacefully to vote did not have the same idea as you have shared, that was why they came out to vote, the problem is the institutions that guard the constitution of a country, if they are not held accountable then all your efforts will mean nothing.

I told someone here that even if they lumped all the other parties together in one and contested against Tinubu, INEC will still declare Tinubu winner because that is what it means when someone becomes bigger than the institution, you don't know why I said I will leave anything election in Nigeria if these people are allowed to have their way, it is not because of what they did only but because the institutions that should have worked for Nigerians.

Injustice becomes the order of the day, bow do you think some African presidents have rule for over 30 years, the truth is they have become than all the institutions in that country and by virtue of that become bigger than the country.

Who can hold them accountable? Nobody, you think a Tinubu who his way when he was not president will let anyone unsit him when he is president, even if his tenure was 100times worse than Buhari, he will not give anyone a chance to do that, as it stands he is bigger than most institutions in Nigeria, I am only praying the courts will prove otherwise, if not then he is virtually bigger than Nigeria.

Reason I told you I will be done with anything election or democracy self as a whole because no amount of opposition will change anything, a template has been set and that template will be on rinse and repeat.

Tinubu's not like that. He deserved to be given a benefit of doubt. His records are there as a governor that ruled well. Rest, let him enter first. Nothing wey no get solution.

Dindondin:

Tinubu's not like that. He deserved to be given a benefit of doubt. His records are there as a governor that ruled well. Rest, let him enter first. Nothing wey no get solution.

You don't still get it, if he has his way with the courts then he is bigger than Nigeria, I am saying it with my full chest.

It is not just about Tinubu winning or doing wrong or right in power, it is for our institutions to work, you might need that same institution to stand for you tomorrow but because someone else is also bigger than that institution then injustice might just prevail on you.

What makes America where they are today is they try to make sure nobody is bigger than their institutions, recently Trump was arrested and taken to court, once institutions fail injustice prevails, it is not a guess work or we should try if this person will do well or not.

Why South Africa is ahead of Nigeria is because of the same thing , Jacob Zuma was imprisoned, the institutions there are working.

Nigerians are suffering not just because of what the leaders are doing but virtually all the institutions have failed, a lot of people are bigger than so many institutions, who can hold them accountable?, injustice becomes the order of the day.

That was the same mistake OBJ made in his time, he conducted elections and always rigged making himself bigger than the electoral institution, when he had the opportunity to strengthen the electoral institution and its laws, but he did not because it favoured him, in 2007 he rigged election for Yaradua because he wanted Yaradua as president.

Fast forward to 2023 he wanted Obi to be president, that institution he did not make strong to work for the people was to work against him and Nigerians, he would have done Nigerians a huge Favour back then by making sure that the institution worked, OBJ won in 2007 for Yaradua but Nigeria lost and is still losing because failed institutions, same thing is happening, Tinubu wants to have his way, if he wins in the court, he wins and Nigeria would lose again.

We want Nigeria to be like America, Canada, UAE, Saudi Arabia and so on but we don't want to do what they are doing with their institution, we want to be doing trial and error with hope in mind that the system will somehow just work.

No country in the world has ever grown with the way we are handling things in Nigeria with our institutions, no matter how much hope you put.

My Pastor once asked OBJ why he did the things he did as president, he said he felt he was doing the right things for the country...

But he was doing it the wrong way which made him do the wrong things, same thing Tinubu and co are doing today and we want our country to be like those countries I listed, we can't continue deceiving ourselves with hope in mind that things will just change.

I want a president that would be elected into office with the institutions working for the people, If Tinubu is to win let him win credibly and Obi is to lose let him lose credibly and vice-versa, let the institutions work for the people....

Brendaniel:


You don't still get it, if he has his way with the courts then he is bigger than Nigeria, I am saying it with my full chest.

It is not just about Tinubu winning or doing wrong or right in power, it is for our institutions to work, you might need that same institution to stand for you tomorrow but because someone else is also bigger than that institution then injustice might just prevail on you.

What makes America where they are today is they try to make sure nobody is bigger than their institutions, recently Trump was arrested and taken to court, once institutions fail injustice prevails, it is not a guess work or we should try if this person will do well or not.

Why South Africa is ahead of Nigeria is because of the same thing , Jacob Zuma was imprisoned, the institutions there are working.

Nigerians are suffering not just because of what the leaders are doing but virtually all the institutions have failed, a lot of people are bigger than so many institutions, who can hold them accountable?, injustice becomes the order of the day.

That was the same mistake OBJ made in his time, he conducted elections and always rigged making himself bigger than the electoral institution, when he had the opportunity to strengthen the electoral institution and its laws, but he did not because it favoured him, in 2007 he rigged election for Yaradua because he wanted Yaradua as president.

Fast forward to 2023 he wanted Obi to be president, that institution he did not make strong to work for the people was to work against him and Nigerians, he would have done Nigerians a huge Favour back then by making sure that the institution worked, OBJ won in 2007 for Yaradua but Nigeria lost and is still losing because failed institutions, same thing is happening, Tinubu wants to have his way, if he wins in the court, he wins and Nigeria would lose again.

We want Nigeria to be like America, Canada, UAE, Saudi Arabia and so on but we don't want to do what they are doing with their institution, we want to be doing trial and error with hope in mind that the system will somehow just work.

No country in the world has ever grown with the way we are handling things in Nigeria with our institutions, no matter how much hope you put.

My Pastor once asked OBJ why he did the things he did as president, he said he felt he was doing the right things for the country...

But he was doing it the wrong way which made him do the wrong things, same thing Tinubu and co are doing today and we want our country to be like those countries I listed, we can't continue deceiving ourselves with hope in mind that things will just change.

I want a president that would be elected into office with the institutions working for the people, If Tinubu is to win let him win credibly and Obi is to lose let him lose credibly and vice-versa, let the institutions work for the people....

I got your points. Abeg they summarise your write ups.
Let's see what the future holds.

Dindondin:

I got your points. Abeg they summarise your write ups.
Let's see what the future holds.

I'm only explaining it the best way I can and I pray Tinubu and his likes don't have their way with this election rigging....

Brendaniel:


I'm only explaining it the best way I can and I pray Tinubu and his likes don't have their way with this election rigging....

Let the court decide. But posterity ll judge who's right or wrong.
Meanwhile, see as them.dey drag LP https://www.nairaland.com/7643396/lamidi-apapa-takes-over-labour
Let LP put their house in order.