V7place:
■Jesus the Messiah did not die on Friday and did not rise on Sunday.
Does it matter? Yes. Why ? Because when asked for a sign from the Pharasees, he specifically said the only sign he would give them would be the sign of Jonah. That just like Jonah was in the belly of a whale for 3 days and 3 nights; so , he would be in the belly of the Earth for 3 days and 3 nights: So did Master Jesus lie or was he mistaken? No he didn't and no he wasn't. It's people that are confused.
■ This is the only sign that Jesus gave when confronted by his enemies, he kept to it. The confusion over the years is that people assume that since the Bible says he was quickly buried before the Sabbath, they think that means Friday, just before Saturday ( Mark 15: 42). Sabbath for Jews begins on Friday sunset and ends on Saturday sunset. But all the festival days like the Passover, Pentecost, and Tabernacles were also considered Sabbaths. Thus the Passover of that year like every other year year was also a Sababath, meaning 2 Sabaths that week. When was Jesus crucified? most likely Wednesday. So we have 3 days: Thursday, Friday and Saturday and 3 nights: Wednesday, Thursday, Friday
■ So when did he resurrect? The Bible never says exactly, all we know is that Mary Magadalene went to the tomb early yes first day of the week ( Sunday) and met and empty tomb.( Matthew 28: 1). So He probably rose on Saturday evening before night fall. No human actually was present nor witnessed the resurrection of the Christ. But the risen Jesus appeared to many. God does not lie. The Bible can be trusted.
Jesus Is Risen.

Kobojunkie:
1.

2. Passover is not a Sabbath. Instead, it is the day after Passover evening that is a Sabbath — a Holy assembly - Exodus 12 and Leviticus 23 vs 4 - 8. Also, Passover takes place in the evening — it is an evening event where the people in each household share the Passover meal.

If Jesus Christ had risen on Saturday evening as you claim, then what you are saying is that all 4 Gospels are wrong in proclaiming that Jesus Christ rose in the morning of the day after the Sabbath — Saturday — is this correct?

3. So, you are saying that Jesus Christ rose the evening before, but chose to stay that night in the tomb until the next morning?

V7place:
■You have a point with number 2, but doesn't negate that he didn't die on Friday. The Gospels are not wrong, they give eye witness accounts of an empty tomb and meeting the Risen Christ, but No one says they say Him rise on Sunday morning.
■ Where did Jesus stay or go immediately he rose? The Bible doesn't say, but there is an indication that He took the blood offering to Heaven and came back at a point because in John 20: 17 he doesn't allow anyone touch him because he hasn't ascended to the Father ; then in Matthew 28: 9 He allows himself to be touched.

Kobojunkie:
1. I am not saying at all that He died on Friday. Why couldn't He have risen on that very same Sunday morning, just before the eyewitnesses showed up to see Him do so? We are talking here of a 6-hour period within which He could have risen prior to the eyewitnesses showing up.

2. Took what blood offering and to what Heaven? According to Scripture, Jesus Christ did not ascend to Heaven until about 2 weeks after His resurrection.

V7place:
■ Please don't get me wrong. I am not saying it didn't happen on Sunday or it happened on Sunday, I wasn't there . And I know He died that week and I know He rose that week. But what I also know is that it couldn't have been death On Friday and resurrection On Sunday as that wouldn't make the 3 days and 3 nights he promised.
He always kept and still keeps His promises.

V7place:


You have a point with number 2, but doesn't negate that he didn't die on Friday.

The Gospels are not wrong, they give eye witness accounts of an empty tomb and meeting the Risen Christ, but No one says they say Him rise on Sunday morning.

Where did Jesus stay or go immediately he rose? The Bible doesn't say, but there is an indication that He took the blood offering to Heaven and came back at a point because in John 20: 17 he doesn't allow anyone touch him because he hasn't ascended to the Father ; then in Matthew 28: 9 He allows himself to be touched.

TenQ:
■ Jesus was crucified on Thursday morning! He was buried before evening on Thursday (day of Preparation)! Friday was a High Sabbath! Saturday was Weekly Sabbath! Jesus rose up Early Sunday Morning! Sunday was the first available day that the Women could anoint Jesus as they couldn't do it on Thursday as Jewish day starts from the Evening.

Kobojunkie:
1. Jesus couldn't have been buried on Thursday particularly since He was supposedly killed for violating the Old Law. Burial on a Holy Day would have been most blasphemous of all things since the dead were never handled on God's Holy days..

TenQ:
■ The day of Preparation was NOT a Holy day. It was the day preceding the Sabbath (for preparing for the sabbath.). The Jewish NEW day starts from EVENING. Thus for a Weekly Sabbath, the Sabbath Day will start from Friday EVENING and run up to Saturday EVENING. Jesus was crucified and buried on the day of Sabbath preparation which was Thursday. Jesus died at about 3pm High Sabbath was from Thursday Evening to Friday Evening, therefore Jesus was buried before evening on Thursday Jesus was buried Just before Thursday Evening High Sabbath (Thursday Evening to Friday Evening) Weekly Sabbath (Friday Evening to Saturday Evening) Sunday Morning Resurrection (Saturday Evening to Sunday Morning) Two Sabbaths in a ROW made it impossible for the Women to annoint Jesus (according to Jewish burial customs) till SUNDAY MORNING!

Thursday Evening, Friday Evening and Saturday Evening = THREE NIGHTS
Friday Morning, Saturday Morning, Sunday Morning =THREE DAYS

Kobojunkie:
1. Jesus couldn't have been buried on Thursday particularly since He was supposedly killed for violating the Old Law. Burial on a Holy Day would have been most blasphemous of all things since the dead were never handled on God's Holy days..

Kobojunkie:
1. First obvious issue is with your assertion regarding your Jewish day partitioning. This separation of Morning from evening formulae of yours goes against that decreed by God as far as that entire day is concerned in Exodus 12 and Leviticus 23 vs 1 - 8. According, to God, the Passover takes place only beginning at sundown but the entire next day He decreed a Holy assembly day meaning that the whole 24 hours of the day was a Sabbath day or specifically the First Day of the Festival of Unleavened Bread. That happens to be the day the Gospels record that Jesus Christ was tried, crucified, and eventually died on.

TenQ:
The day of Preparation was NOT a Holy day. It was the day preceding the Sabbath (for preparing for the sabbath.).
The Jewish NEW day starts from EVENING. Thus for a Weekly Sabbath, the Sabbath Day will start from Friday EVENING and run up to Saturday EVENING.


Jesus was crucified and buried on the day of Sabbath preparation which was Thursday. Jesus died at about 3pm
High Sabbath was from Thursday Evening to Friday Evening, therefore Jesus was buried before evening on Thursday

Jesus was buried Just before Thursday Evening
High Sabbath (Thursday Evening to Friday Evening)
Weekly Sabbath (Friday Evening to Saturday Evening)
Sunday Morning Resurrection (Saturday Evening to Sunday Morning)

Two Sabbaths in a ROW made it impossible for the Women to annoint Jesus (according to Jewish burial customs) till SUNDAY MORNING!

Thursday Evening, Friday Evening and Saturday Evening = THREE NIGHTS
Friday Morning, Saturday Morning, Sunday Morning =THREE DAYS

TenQ:
■ I guess you think Jesus was crucified on Monday? And he rose from the dead on Tuesday? Since all you know about to do is tear down, please let's hear your own.
It must take care of
1. The parable of Noah (3days and 3 nights)
2. The Women going to his empty tomb on early morning first day of the week
3. Why the women had to go to anoint Jesus for burial 3days after death rather than immediately before burial.

Don't force the scriptures into what it didn't say

V7place:
Interesting.

Kobojunkie:
1. I would rather you keep your private delusions away from scripture is all. According to what is written, Jesus Christ was crucified and died on the First day of the Festival of Unleavened Bread, the day after Passover evening. That is what the Gospels in fact report. Jesus Christ was buried the day after that since the handling of the dead on a Holy day — the First day of the Festival of Unleavened Bread is a Holy day — was against God's Law.

Kobojunkie:
Leviticus 23 vs 1 - 8 do infact state that the day after Passover evening is the first day of the Festival of Unleavened Bread, a Holy day. This would explain the reason why a crowd was gathered in Jerusalem on that day — a Holy assembly of the people was commanded by God on that day, and no work was allowed on that day. It also explains why Pilate had to handle the killing of Jesus Christ even though He was tried by the Jewish priests — it was against the Law to put a man to death on a Holy day. Also figured is the fact that the body of Jesus Christ had to hang on the cross until the next day before it was then taken down and buried before the Sabbath day began.

V7place:
■ Hang until the next day? He was buried the same day.

Kobojunkie:
1. It was not in fact stated in scripture that He was buried the very same day. However, when you review the facts, you realize that He did hang until the next day. One small detail is the claim that blood and water poured out of His side when He was speared by one of the soldiers - John 19 vs 33 - 34. Jesus Christ had to been hanging dead on the cross for about 24 hours hours at that point.

Kobojunkie:
1. It was not in fact stated in scripture that He was buried the very same day. However, when you review the facts, you realize that He did hang until the next day. One small detail is the claim that blood and water poured out of His side when He was speared by one of the soldiers - John 19 vs 33 - 34. Jesus Christ had to been hanging dead on the cross for about 24 hours hours at that point.

V7place:
■ Although the practice was to let the convicts hang till they died, which could take a day; which was why Pilate was suprised that the Master was already dead, so quickly. ( Mark 15: 44)
In essence he died quickly at 3pm that same day ( Matt 27: 45-50.
■ Verse 57 says " As evening approached" that would have to be the same day that Pilate gave them permission to bring down the body.

Kobojunkie:
1. It wasn't out of the ordinary for convicts to hang for days on the cross by the way. And yes, Jesus Christ dying on the same day was a bit out of the norm. However, the story does not state that Pilates suprise came the same day of Jesus Christ's death.

2. " As evening approached.." does not include a reference to it being the evening of the same day that He died though. So it is wrong to conclude it has to have been the same evening that Jesus Christ died.

Add to that what Jesus Christ promised the thief on the cross , "Today, you will be with me in Paradise", indicating that rather than hang for days on the cross, the thief too would die that very same day that Jesus Christ did.

V7place:
■ That " Today you ll be with me in paradise '" had the comma put in the wrong spot before today. They didn't use commas and full stops in the days the Bible was written. The English translators used the liberty to place them where they thought necessary.
■ No way the thief went to paradise that same day.

Kobojunkie:
1. But paradise is euphemism for the grave.

2. Anyways, Jesus Christ was in the grave that day(Today), the next day(the day after today) and the day after that(the day after the day after today). So when exactly do you think the thief eventually went to be with Jesus Christ in paradise?

V7place:
■ Nooo o ? grave how? He said " Remember when you come in your Kingdom" ..how can the response be Grave?

Kobojunkie:
1. Except a man be born-again, he cannot enter into the Kingdom of God - John 3 vs 1 - 8 . The thief on the cross had no chance at all as far as entering into the Kingdom of God, this as stated by Jesus Christ Himself.
So, the man's question was that, His question. Jesus Christ did offer him the next best thing, the grave.

V7place: