TenQ:
Internal Evidence that the Qur'an had been Doctored

Prior to the revelation Surah Al-Isra which is the 50th Chapter in the order of Revelation of the Qur'an, Mohammed always preceded the Qur'an with the phrase "In Thy name, O Allah"!

According to the Traditions and books on the life of the Holy Prophet, the writing of Al-Isra happened one year before Hijrah. Thus, this Surah is one of those which were revealed in the last stage of Prophethood at Makkah.
https://www.alim.org/quran/introductions/maududi/surah/17/

Mohammed spent 13 years in Mecca before a further 10 years in Medina .


In the first 13 years of Mohammed's prophethood with him recieving 49 Chapters of the Qur'an, Mohammed NEVER mentioned the name of Allah as Al-Rahman.

Knowing that the Qur'an is the EXACT words of Allah, perfectly preserved exactly as Jubril dictated it to Mohammed from the Tablet in Heaven:

Question:
1. Can Muslims please explain how ALMOST all the chapters of the Qur'an except Al-Tawbah including the first 49 Chapters of the Qur'an contain the word Rahman ?

2. When did Jubril return to Replace the opening phrase "In Thy name, O Allah" with "In the name of Allah the Beneficent the Merciful" (Bismillahir Rahmanir Raheem) in the first 49 Chapters of the Qur'an? (Arabic: 'بِسْمِ ٱللَّٰهِ ٱلرَّحْمَٰنِ ٱلرَّحِيمِ)

3. What is the evidence for authorisation for this change in the Qur'an?

4. How can we prove that the Rahman of
Al-Yamamah is not the same as the Rahman of Mohammed. Apparently, Al-Yamamah owns the copyright to the name Rahman.


As you know, I'll always show you evidences from your RELIGIOUS BOOKS!

Please check for Facts in the next Page before answering these Questions


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Encyclopedia1:


The reason why the Basmalah does not appear at the beginning of Soorat at-Tawbah is that the Sahaabah (may Allah be pleased with them) did not write it at the beginning of this soorah in the Mushaf, following the example of the caliph ‘Uthmaan (may Allah be pleased with him). At-Tirmidhi narrated in as-Sunan that Ibn ‘Abbaas (may Allah be pleased with him) said: “I said to ‘Uthmaan ibn ‘Affaan: ‘What made you put al-Anfaal which is one of the Mathaani, next to Baraa’ah [al-Tawbah], which is one of the Mi’een? Why did you not put the line Bismillaah ir-Rahmaan ir-Raheem in between them when you put it at the beginning of the rest of al-Sab’ al-Tiwaal [the long seven soorahs]?” ‘Uthmaan said: “The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) used to receive revelation of soorahs with many aayahs. When they were revealed, he would call his scribes and tell them, ‘Put these aayahs in the soorah where such-and-such is mentioned.’ Al-Anfaal was one of the first soorahs to be revealed in Madeenah, and Baraa’ah (al-Tawbah) was one of the last parts of the Qur’aan to be revealed. Its stories were similar to the stories mentioned in al-Anfaal, so it was thought that it was part of it. The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) was taken [i.e., died] without explaining whether it was indeed part of it, so they were put next to one another, and the line Bismillaahi ir’Rahmaan ir’Raheem was not written between them, and it [al-Tawbah] was put among the Sab’ al-Tiwaal [seven long soorahs].”

End quote from Fataawa al-Lajnah ad-Daa’imah, 4/225

Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen (may Allah have mercy on him) said: … The correct opinion is that there is no Basmalah between it (Soorat at-Tawbah) and al-Anfaal, because the Basmalah is a verse of the Book of Allah, may He be glorified and exalted, and if the Messenger (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) did not say to put the Basmalah between the two soorahs, they did not put it between them. The Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) is the one who decided and said: Put the Basmalah, and he did not tell them to put the Basmalah between Soorat al-Anfaal and Soorat at-Tawbah, so they did not write it. But it remains to be said: if he did not give instructions to this effect, why is there a separation between it and Soorat al-Anfaal? Why did they not make it one soorah? We say: Yes, they did not make it one soorah because they were uncertain as to whether it was the same soorah as al-Anfaal or they were two separate soorahs, so they said: Let us make a separation between the two soorahs and not write the Basmalah. This is the correct opinion concerning the absence of the Basmalah between Soorat al-Anfaal and Soorat at-Tawbah.

End quote from Liqa’ al-Baab al-Maftooh, no. 18

TenQ:


I do honestly appreciate your response to this. You have answered the Question
Why the Basmalah does not appear at the beginning of Soorat at-Tawbah
AND
Why there is no Basmalah between it (Soorat at-Tawbah) and al-Anfaal

Unfortunately, my questions were not about these.

My Questions was about
Why Rahman or Al-Rahman is included in the first 49 Chapters of the Qur'an according to Revelation since the name of Allah Al-Rahman was used FIRST by Mohammed in the 50th Revelation Al-Isra


For example:
Surah Al-Fathia is the 5th Chapter in the Order of Revelation YET, the first verse contain the phrase
"Bismilah Ramani Raheem "

This should not be because the name of Allah Rahman was NOT revealed UNTIL the 50th Revealed Surah Al-Isra


Hence my Questions: :
1. Can Muslims please explain how ALMOST all the chapters of the Qur'an except Al-Tawbah including the first 49 Chapters of the Qur'an contain the word Rahman ?

2. When did Jubril return to Replace the opening phrase "In Thy name, O Allah" with "In the name of Allah the Beneficent the Merciful" (Bismillahir Rahmanir Raheem) in the first 49 Chapters of the Qur'an? (Arabic: 'بِسْمِ ٱللَّٰهِ ٱلرَّحْمَٰنِ ٱلرَّحِيمِ)

3. What is the evidence for authorisation for this change in the Qur'an?

4. How can we prove that the Rahman of
Al-Yamamah is not the same as the Rahman of Mohammed. Apparently, Al-Yamamah owns the copyright to the name Rahman.


Thank you

Encyclopedia1:


To understand Islam, you must open ur mind sir. Now, there will be nothing Angel Jubril (Gabriel) will do without the knowledge of Allah. Allah in His Might does what He wills. I’m not a scholar in this field but I’m sure scholars will gladly answer u. Ire ooo

TenQ:
I decided to find other sources for you so that you won't complain that Wahidi was fabricating history for the greatest human being of all mankind prophet Mohammed!

Is the Book
Kitab asbab al-Nuzul ("Book of occasions of revelation"wink of Ali ibn Ahmad al-Wahidi (d. 1075 CE)

Reliable?

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TenQ:

Thank you, do you want me to open my mind to obviously something that is NOT true?

Your Islamic books say that
1. Jubril dictated the Qur'an perfectly as he received it from Allah

2. The Qur'an is a copy of the Qur'an Qur'an on tablets in Paradise and it is ETERNAL (meaning that it had been perfected even before Adam was created)

3. Al-Rahman was NOT part of the Qur'an till Surah Al-Isra


Don't you know that except someone DOCTORED the Qur'an, it is IMPOSSIBLE that the Name Al-Rahman be part of the first 49 Chapters of the Qur'an?

Can you suggest a Scholar on Nairaland to answer this Question?


At least, Mr Encyclopedia1, you have tried your BEST

Lukuluku69, AntiChristian, LegalWolf will keep Quiet now.

I'm still waiting: am sure you were not taught this because you were not expected to know the answer

TenQ:
Mr AntiChristian,
I guess you can use ChatGPT to answer the Questions as usual!

Ahmad al-Wahidi may be telling lies you know!?

LOL!

AntiChristian:


Ali ibn Ahmad al-Wahidi, also known as Ali ibn Ahmad al-Shafi'i, was a prominent Islamic scholar who lived in the 12th century CE and is known for his work on "Asbab al-Nuzul." He authored a well-known book titled "Kitab Asbab al-Nuzul," which is considered one of the earliest and most significant works on the subject.

The reliability of al-Wahidi's "Kitab Asbab al-Nuzul" is generally recognized by Islamic scholars and researchers, although there may be varying opinions on specific details or interpretations. Al-Wahidi was a renowned scholar of his time and had expertise in various fields, including Quranic exegesis and hadith (sayings and actions of Prophet Muhammad). He drew upon earlier sources, including the works of earlier scholars and the sayings of the Prophet Muhammad, to compile his book on the reasons behind the revelation of Quranic verses.

However, it's important to note that "Asbab al-Nuzul" is not a primary source of Islamic teachings. It is a secondary source that provides insights into the historical context of Quranic verses and should be used in conjunction with other established sources of Quranic exegesis and scholarly consensus. As with any scholarly work, it is always advisable to exercise critical thinking, cross-reference information with other reliable sources, and consult with qualified scholars for a comprehensive understanding of the subject matter.

AntiChristian:


Al-Rahman was mentioned about 31 times in the Qur'an and one Surah goes by that name!
Surah Al-Rahman is the 55th Surah and the first verse starts with Al-Rahman!

TenQ:
Internal Evidence that the Qur'an had been Doctored

Prior to the revelation Surah Al-Isra which is the 50th Chapter in the order of Revelation of the Qur'an, Mohammed always preceded the Qur'an with the phrase "In Thy name, O Allah"!

According to the Traditions and books on the life of the Holy Prophet, the writing of Al-Isra happened one year before Hijrah. Thus, this Surah is one of those which were revealed in the last stage of Prophethood at Makkah.
https://www.alim.org/quran/introductions/maududi/surah/17/

Mohammed spent 13 years in Mecca before a further 10 years in Medina .


In the first 13 years of Mohammed's prophethood with him recieving 49 Chapters of the Qur'an, Mohammed NEVER mentioned the name of Allah as Al-Rahman.

Knowing that the Qur'an is the EXACT words of Allah, perfectly preserved exactly as Jubril dictated it to Mohammed from the Tablet in Heaven:

Question:
1. Can Muslims please explain how ALMOST all the chapters of the Qur'an except Al-Tawbah including the first 49 Chapters of the Qur'an contain the word Rahman ?

2. When did Jubril return to Replace the opening phrase "In Thy name, O Allah" with "In the name of Allah the Beneficent the Merciful" (Bismillahir Rahmanir Raheem) in the first 49 Chapters of the Qur'an? (Arabic: 'بِسْمِ ٱللَّٰهِ ٱلرَّحْمَٰنِ ٱلرَّحِيمِ)

3. What is the evidence for authorisation for this change in the Qur'an?

4. How can we prove that the Rahman of
Al-Yamamah is not the same as the Rahman of Mohammed. Apparently, Al-Yamamah owns the copyright to the name Rahman.

As you know, I'll always show you evidences from your RELIGIOUS BOOKS!

Please check for Facts in the next Page before answering these Questions


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TenQ:

I don't have problems with chapters revealed AFTER Qur'an 17. I only have problems with chapters revealed before it

I guess I should help you with examples of Surahs containing Al-Rahman that preceded Surah 17. I have ignored the headers of the Surahs to make things easy

Examples:
Surah Al-Fatihah (Chapter 1), verse 3
Surah Al-Baqarah (Chapter 2), verse 163
Surah Maryam (Chapter 19), verse 58
Surah Ta-Ha (Chapter 20), verse 5
Surah Al-Furqan (Chapter 25), verse 60
Surah Ya-Sin (Chapter 36), verse 3


How do you explain the direct inclusion of Rahman in these verses?

Thanks

Attached is a screenshot of the Al-Fathia

AntiChristian:


Since whenever we answer you keep saying we are telling lies, Artificial Intelligence won't tell lies nor be partial!

AntiChristian:


Since whenever we answer you keep saying we are telling lies, Artificial Intelligence won't tell lies nor be partial!

TenQ:

If you have been using ChatGPT well, you know that sometimes it gives a very wrong information. Information from it need to be verified sometimes!

Secondly, AI can be very partial my friend. It looks like these people have some certain PHOBIAS of offending especially Islam that they have programmed the AI to provide ONLY the nicest things about the religion. The same is observable with Google-translate.

Some months ago, I tried to show you where the verse of
"Allah and his Angels send blessings to the Messanger "
was translated as
"Allah and his Angels send blessings to the Messanger "

A simple replacement of names in the verse however gives you the correct interpretation.

https://www.nairaland.com/7335980/does-quran-use-special-arabic

You can try these question with ChatGPT:
1. Is Prophet Mohammed more influential than Jesus?
2. Is Barrack Obama more influential than Muhamadu Buhari
3. List at least one morally bad things Prophet Mohammed did in his lifetime
4. List two morally bad things Adolf Hitler did in his lifetime

You will see that the AI is trained to avoid especially religious conflicts by sitting on the fence.

AI is good for general information which may be confirmed from other sources except if trivial

TenQ:

Actually, when we Quote your sources for you,
It's either
1. You claim we are lying

2. The source is a Fabrication

3. The source is Daif

4. We have Copy-pasted from Christian apologists websites
etc

AntiChristian:


Al-Rahman is one of the names of Allah! He has many lofty names. So why can't He place His name anywhere He wishes in the entire Qur'an?
I still don't understand your question!

AntiChristian:


I know its limit and I understand the outputs better!

AntiChristian:
Of course you do tell lies! I still remember the lie of Allah = Al plus Lah and many others!
Can't the source be a fabrication?
Don't we have Da'if narrations?
Have you guys never copied before?

AntiChristian:
This question is "Holly Spirit" Filled as usual. It makes no sense!
All chapters of the Qur'an is recited with Bamallah except Al-Tawbah! Rahman also exists in other verses apart from the Basmallah that begins 113 Chapters of the Qur'an.

AntiChristian:

Another Holly Spirit question! What is the difference between In your name O Allah aka بِسْمِ ٱللَّٰهِ and In your name O Allah, the Most Merciful, the Most Compassionate aka بِسْمِ ٱللَّٰهِ ٱلرَّحْمَٰنِ ٱلرَّحِيمِ When ٱلرَّحْمَٰنِ ٱلرَّحِيمِ Al-Rahman and Al-Rahim are two among His names?

AntiChristian:

No Change! Just that you can't think!

AntiChristian:

Who is Rahman of Al-Yamamah? The only Al-Rahman we know from the Qur'an is Allah. Al-Rahman is one of the names of Allah!

AntiChristian:

Below are some places where Al-Rahman is mentioned in the Qur'an as a verse!

1. Surah Al-Fatihah, verse 1: "In the name of Allah, the Most Merciful (Ar-Rahman), the Most Compassionate (Ar-Rahim)."

2. Surah Maryam, verse 58: "Those were some of the prophets on whom Allah bestowed favor from among the descendants of Adam and of those We carried [in the ship] with Noah, and of the descendants of Abraham and Israel, and of those whom We guided and chose. When the verses of the Most Merciful (Ar-Rahman) were recited to them, they fell in prostration and weeping."

3. Surah Al-Furqan, verse 60: "And when it is said to them, 'Prostrate to the Most Merciful (Ar-Rahman),' they say, 'And what is the Most Merciful? Should we prostrate to that which you order us?' And it increases them in aversion."

4. Surah Al-Furqan, verse 70: "Except for one who repents, believes, and does righteous work. For those, Allah will replace their evil deeds with good deeds. And ever is Allah Forgiving and Merciful (Ar-Rahman)."

5. Surah Al-Inshiqaq, verse 6: "O mankind, what has deceived you concerning your Lord, the Most Merciful (Ar-Rahman)?"

AntiChristian:
This question is "Holly Spirit" Filled as usual. It makes no sense!
All chapters of the Qur'an is recited with Bamallah except Al-Tawbah! Rahman also exists in other verses apart from the Basmallah that begins 113 Chapters of the Qur'an.

Another Holly Spirit question! What is the difference between In your name O Allah aka بِسْمِ ٱللَّٰهِ and In your name O Allah, the Most Merciful, the Most Compassionate aka بِسْمِ ٱللَّٰهِ ٱلرَّحْمَٰنِ ٱلرَّحِيمِ When ٱلرَّحْمَٰنِ ٱلرَّحِيمِ Al-Rahman and Al-Rahim are two among His names?

No Change! Just that you can't think!


Who is Rahman of Al-Yamamah? The only Al-Rahman we know from the Qur'an is Allah. Al-Rahman is one of the names of Allah!




Below are some places where Al-Rahman is mentioned in the Qur'an as a verse!

1. Surah Al-Fatihah, verse 1: "In the name of Allah, the Most Merciful (Ar-Rahman), the Most Compassionate (Ar-Rahim)."

2. Surah Maryam, verse 58: "Those were some of the prophets on whom Allah bestowed favor from among the descendants of Adam and of those We carried [in the ship] with Noah, and of the descendants of Abraham and Israel, and of those whom We guided and chose. When the verses of the Most Merciful (Ar-Rahman) were recited to them, they fell in prostration and weeping."

3. Surah Al-Furqan, verse 60: "And when it is said to them, 'Prostrate to the Most Merciful (Ar-Rahman),' they say, 'And what is the Most Merciful? Should we prostrate to that which you order us?' And it increases them in aversion."

4. Surah Al-Furqan, verse 70: "Except for one who repents, believes, and does righteous work. For those, Allah will replace their evil deeds with good deeds. And ever is Allah Forgiving and Merciful (Ar-Rahman)."

5. Surah Al-Inshiqaq, verse 6: "O mankind, what has deceived you concerning your Lord, the Most Merciful (Ar-Rahman)?"

TenQ:
Internal Evidence that the Qur'an had been Doctored

Prior to the revelation Surah Al-Isra which is the 50th Chapter in the order of Revelation of the Qur'an, Mohammed always preceded the Qur'an with the phrase "In Thy name, O Allah"!

According to the Traditions and books on the life of the Holy Prophet, the writing of Al-Isra happened one year before Hijrah. Thus, this Surah is one of those which were revealed in the last stage of Prophethood at Makkah.
https://www.alim.org/quran/introductions/maududi/surah/17/

Mohammed spent 13 years in Mecca before a further 10 years in Medina .


In the first 13 years of Mohammed's prophethood with him recieving 49 Chapters of the Qur'an, Mohammed NEVER mentioned the name of Allah as Al-Rahman.

Knowing that the Qur'an is the EXACT words of Allah, perfectly preserved exactly as Jubril dictated it to Mohammed from the Tablet in Heaven:

Question:
1. Can Muslims please explain how ALMOST all the chapters of the Qur'an except Al-Tawbah including the first 49 Chapters of the Qur'an contain the word Rahman ?

2. When did Jubril return to Replace the opening phrase "In Thy name, O Allah" with "In the name of Allah the Beneficent the Merciful" (Bismillahir Rahmanir Raheem) in the first 49 Chapters of the Qur'an? (Arabic: 'بِسْمِ ٱللَّٰهِ ٱلرَّحْمَٰنِ ٱلرَّحِيمِ)

3. What is the evidence for authorisation for this change in the Qur'an?

4. How can we prove that the Rahman of
Al-Yamamah is not the same as the Rahman of Mohammed. Apparently, Al-Yamamah owns the copyright to the name Rahman.


As you know, I'll always show you evidences from your RELIGIOUS BOOKS!

Please check for Facts in the next Page before answering these Questions


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gaskiyamagana:

Continues wasting your time. It is a fool, if not mad to dare saying, let alone writing jargons that Qur'an is dis and dat like your New Version, Revised, Standard etc Bibles.

gaskiyamagana:

What is dis wan saying?