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Re: Ocampo/hague Kenya Case by AfroBlue(m): 6:50pm On Jan 24, 2012
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Always had a love for the entire continent. My parents were big fans of
Babatunde Olatunji and Miriam Makeba and grandparents were Marcus Garvey/ites . A lot of American and Caribbean folks name their kids Kenya or Jomo, or Kenyatta.



I have a relative studying in Uganda now.

[quote author=pendo89 d. you seem to love EA.
Re: Ocampo/hague Kenya Case by pendo89(f): 8:27pm On Jan 24, 2012
cool. ur friend must be in makerere uni i guess.
i have come across the name kenya in the west before,found it interesting.
Re: Ocampo/hague Kenya Case by kenyaman: 9:17pm On Jan 24, 2012
ACHA HISA ZA UPENDO WA AFRICA MASHARIKI, MIMI NI MKAZI WA KENYA HALISI, SIO MWAMBAO, NI MWANAINCHI HALISI. NI MUZALIWA WA KENYA, MLEWA WA KENYA, NIMEKULIA KENYA. DAMU YANGU NI YA KENYA, MWILI NA HATA MIKOJO YANGU NI YA KENYA. HAKUNA MAMBO MENGINE, HASHA HATQA KIDOGO.



KUHUSU WALE AMBAO HAGUE YA NUIA WAENDE MBELELE, KAMA SERIKALI YA KENYA NI YA KABILA MOJA, WAZIDI KUPONDA MFUKO WA FEDHA ZA KENYA KWA WATU HAWA, LAKINI KAMA KENYA NI MAJIMBHO ARUBAINI NA SABA, KUTOA HATA NDURURU KWA MAOVU YA WALE WAINNE, NAJIBI, "HASHA"

Since Independence, one or two people have in practice claimed to own everything. The land, the economy, the politics, the cultural and the education system of Kenya. NO MORE, SHALL OUR CHILDREN DIE BECAUSE THE EDUCATION SYSTEM IS SET TO BENEFIT ONE, TWO OR THREE PEOPLE GROUPS.

IN MY VIEW LET EVERY COUNTY RUN ITS OWN EDUCATION, LIKE ALL CIVILIZED STATES AROUND THE WORLD.
Re: Ocampo/hague Kenya Case by kenyaman: 9:45pm On Jan 24, 2012
THE STRENGTH AND DECISION MAKING OF KENYA MUST LIE ON THE STRENGTH OF THE 47 COUNTIES. NO MORE ONE TRIBE RULE OR ONE TRIBE SETTING OFFICES IN EVERY COUNTY AND PLUNDERING THE WANANCHI. NO, EACH COUNTRY MUST FROM NOW FORWARD RUN


ITS OWN SCHOOLS WITH RESOURCES FROM THE FEDERATION AND FROM WITHOUT
RUN ITS OWN BUSINESS WITHOUT DEPENDING ON ONE TRIBE TO CHOOSE TO ISSUE LICENSES OR DENY OTHER COUNTIES.

RUN ITS OWN VALUABLE INSTALLATIONS AND BUSINESSES, MOMBASA PORT SHOULD BE RUN BY THE COUNTIES OF THE COAST. NO MORE PLUNDERING OF RESOURCES. ANY WEALTH STOLEN MUST BE RETURNED TO JUMP START THE COAST

WE SHALL NEED TO BUILD OUR OWN UNIVERSITIES IN ALL REGIONS. THE COUNTIES IN THE COAST CAN AND MUST BUILD THEIR OWN UNIVERSITIES THAT ARE ACCREDITED, AND WE STEAR AWAY FROM TRIBAL TO NATIONAL AND INTERNATIONAL KIND OF UNIVERSITIES
Re: Ocampo/hague Kenya Case by kenyaman: 9:45pm On Jan 24, 2012
Kenya must forge forward and refuse to elect leaders who by nature are tribal like the G7 of the Ruto, UHURU agenda, where the whole platform is built to defeat another candidate and raise the wages of the neo-colonial club, rather that fight for the public.

Ruto, Uhuru, and even the silent blind followers of these two, HOW MANY TIMES WAS YOUR WAGES RAISED. TO HOW MUCH MONEY?  DID YOU GO TO THE STREETS OF NAIROBI AND MOMBASA TO PROTEST THE RAISE OF YOUR OWN WAGES?

DID YOU PAY WILLINGLY ALL YOUR TAXES?  DID YOU UHURU AND RUTO, AND ALL MEMBERS FOLLOWING YOU RAISE THE WAGES OF THE COMMON MAN EVERY YEAR?


DO NOT OPEN YOUR MOUTH NOW THAT ELECTIONS ARE HERE FOR THE COMMON MAN WHEN YOU WERE QUIET ALL THE YEARS YOU HAVE BEEN IN OFFICE?   DID YOU UHURU DO ANYTHING ABOUT IDP'S OR DID YOU PUSH THEM TO THE COAST WHERE YOU HAVE BENEFITTED AND CONTINUE TO BENEFIT OUT OF THE COASTAL LANDS WITHOUT ANY REQARD TO THE NATIVES OF THE LAND?   fROM uhuru OF kENYA TO pRESENT. Land illegally taken by billions of pounds for local resettlement must be returned to locals. In this case NANDI people,
Re: Ocampo/hague Kenya Case by pendo89(f): 6:39am On Jan 25, 2012
Wewe una story mob. Sasa nani amesema mikojo yako sio ya kenya?  undecided undecided

Lakini sikiza, nimekuambia eti hizi kelele unapiga hapa hazisaidii mtu. Mbona hupeleki hoja zako kwa forum ya wakenya wakusikize?
Hapa ni nani anakusikiza? unasound kama voice in the wilderness.

Vile unaongea wewe unaweza sababisha vita za kikabila.Sio fair.Wakenya wanatry ku unite na wewe unaleta siasa za kale.
Uko wapi kwanza?? wapiga kelele ukiwa nje ya kenya.Si uje kenya uungane na wenzako? Kuna watu na vikundi vingi vya kutetea haki ya wakenya huku kenya,wewe wapiga domo online!!

Njoo kenya tujenge nchii au uanzishe chama chako.Nitakupa support. grin


Wacha kushinda ukisema haki za watu na hauko nao. Nandi amboa moi alijaza kwenye polisi? kenya ilikua wapi wanandi wakitawala?
stop talking like a tribalist.Sijali natoka kabila gani.Mimi ni mkenya fullstop na ikiwa msamburu atasimama na awe mtu mpoa nitampa kura zangu.
Am soo past tribal politics bwana.
Chanuka!!
Re: Ocampo/hague Kenya Case by kenyaman: 5:12am On Jan 26, 2012
UPENDO89,


I am very shocked to hear the way you conduct yourself. Do you think a Kenyan tax that is lower at 1/3 for the federal or central government, 1/3 for county wages, and 1/3 for county building is NOT NATIONAL?

Do you think having education run by the counties and national highways run by the federation is not national.?
Do you think the military run by the NATIONAL government bu the police run by each state is not national?
Do you think business licenses for each count to be given and run by the counties is not NATIONAL?


YOU NEED TO KNOW WHAT OTHER SUCCESSFUL COUNTRIES, LIKE CANADA, GERMANY, SWITSERLAND, USA HAVE DONE IN THIS REGARD BEFORE YOU DISMISS THESE IDEAS.
Re: Ocampo/hague Kenya Case by kenyaman: 5:22am On Jan 26, 2012
TAKE PRIDE IN KENYA, ON KENYA'S EFFORT TO GET RIDE OF CORRUPTION AT ALL COST. THIS MEANS WE SHOULD ALL SUPPORT OUR TROOPS.
THIS ALSO IS A NATIONAL GOAL.
WE SHOULD MAKE SURE, NO MORE GREEDY OR CORRUPT MEMBERS OF PARLIAMENT A RETURNED TO THE AUGUST HOUSE AFTER THE ELECTIONS IN KENYA.
THIS ALSO IS A NATIONALIST GOAL.
WE SHOULD MAKE SURE THAT NO ONE TRIBE CONTROLS ALL
THE KENYAN FERTILE, AND MANY ARE GOING LANDLESS WITHOUT EVEN SHELTER.
THIS ALSO IS A NATIONAL GOAL.

WE SHOULD NEVER ALL 2% OF THE POPULATION TO PLUNDER THE NATIONAL PURSE IN WAGES, JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE IN POWER. THIS ALSO IS A NATIONAL GOAL.

pendo, you are not a national if you truly object to the above common sense democratic ideals.
Re: Ocampo/hague Kenya Case by kenyaman: 5:31am On Jan 26, 2012
Haki gani iko kwa watu wanaoungana ili wamshide Mwanasiasa mwingine kama Raila?

You can choose to be a voice for Kenya by establishing and working on the big ideas rather than allow selfish politicians, and greedy tribal to run Kenya.


Kenyans have a choice to ensure, no greedy member of Parliament who never fought for the wages of the poor gets a vote this time around. IF YOU WANT TO CLEAN KENYA OF CORRUPTION, MAKE YOUR VOTE COUNT, BY VOTING FOR A TRUE NATIONALIST WHO DOES NOT DUMP HIS TRIBE IN OTHER PLACES SO THAT THEY MAKE KEEP THOUSANDS OF ACRES IN KENYA LAND, WHILE OTHERS CANNOT AFFORD A PLOT.


SUCH IS INHUMANE, GREEDY AND OUTRIGHT WRONG.
Re: Ocampo/hague Kenya Case by kenyaman: 5:38am On Jan 26, 2012
IDP SETTLEMENT MUST BE DONE CAREFULLY TO ENSURE THEY ARE SETTLED IN THEIR LANDS NOT IN LANDS WHERE OTHERS WILL BE DEPRIVED OF THEIR LANDS BECAUSE THEY CANNOT READ AND WRITE, OR THEY ARE POOR AND COULD NOT USE TRACTORS TO TILL THEIR LAND. PARTICULARLY IN THE 10 MILE COASTAL STRIP, NANDI ETC



NO EXPLOITATION, IN THE NAME OF NATIONALISM IN KENYA
Re: Ocampo/hague Kenya Case by pendo89(f): 8:29am On Jan 26, 2012
Have you ever voted in kenya? did u vote in the new constitution? People who do nothing to propagate anything make the loudest noise.
You are beating drums c'mmon you need to air your opinions on a kenyan forum!!! I am not commenting on ur issues cz we we'll clash.
Talk to kenyans,engage kenyans,challenge kenyans get their views.For christs sake who cares what you type here really?
I don't see any kenyan engaging you that's why you are just a noisemaker!!

You don't even know me,my background and u question my patriotism
Re: Ocampo/hague Kenya Case by kenyaman: 7:31am On Jan 28, 2012
"Have you ever voted in kenya? did u vote in the new constitution? People who do nothing to propagate anything make the loudest noise.
You are beating drums c'mmon you need to air your opinions on a kenyan forum!!! I am not commenting on ur issues cz we we'll clash.
Talk to kenyans,engage kenyans,challenge kenyans get their views.For christs sake who cares what you type here really?
I don't see any kenyan engaging you that's why you are just a noisemaker!!

You don't even know me,my background and u question my patriotism"


IT IS FUNNY THAT YOU CLAIM TO BE KENYAN, BUT YOU WEAR A WHITE SKIN, YOU CLAIM THERE ARE NO KENYANS HERE, BUT YOU FIND KENYAMAN HERE. THUS YOU NEED ALSO TO BE IN THE KENYAN FORUM. I ALWAYS HAVE ADVISED YOU TO POST WHAT YOU READ FROM ME TO THE SITES YOU HAVE SUGGESTED AND LET THEM CONSUME THE PROVOCATIVE AND ENLIGHTENING IDEAS. VOTING IS A RIGHT TO ALL CITIZENS OF KENYA. THEY MUST EXERCISE CAREFULLY NOT TO REPEAT PAST MISTAKES.

THE WORLD OF KENYA AGREES WITH ME. PASSING THIS MESSAGE MEANS YOU ARE DOING SOMETHING.
Re: Ocampo/hague Kenya Case by kenyaman: 7:38am On Jan 28, 2012
"Njoo kenya tujenge nchii au uanzishe chama chako.Nitakupa support. "


IT WOULD BE VERY IMPORTANT TO EXAMINE FIRST WHO IN THE PILE OF POLITICIANS HAS A NATIONAL PLATFORM? IT IS NOT MORE CHAMA'S IT IS MORE NATIONALISM. RAILA CAN TEACH KENYANS ONE OR TWO THINGS ABOUT NATIONALISM. WORK WITH HIM. GIVE HIM YOUR VOTE AND THOSE OF YOUR FRIENDS.


WACHA UKABILA
Re: Ocampo/hague Kenya Case by kenyaman: 7:46am On Jan 28, 2012
RUTO, NEEDS TO RESIGN FOR THE INTEREST OF THE NATION.
HERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR HIM TO FOLLOW THE FOOTSTEPS OF CIVILIZED POLITICIANS AROUND THE WORLD AND EVEN IN KENYA.

LET HIM RESIGN, WHEN HE CLEANS HIS RECORD.
HE CAN VIE FOR POWER. RIGHT NOW HE WANTS MORE POWER THAN HE WANTS KENYA.
IT SMELLS UGLY, WHOEVER IS ADVISING HIM IS MISLEADING HIM.
NOW AND FOREVER, IF HE KEEPS ON DENYING THE REALITY THAT HE IS NOT THE ONLY PEBBLE IN THE BEACH.

WHICH KENYAN WILL VOTE IN A PERSON OR PERSONS THAT ARE UNDER INVESTIGATION? If Baraza can go, Ruto must also follow.
Re: Ocampo/hague Kenya Case by kenyaman: 4:48am On Feb 07, 2012
The long awaited results of the OCAMPO 6, came in January and FOUR were confirmed. Muthaura, Sang, Uhuru and Ruto. Unfortunately, just as they voted NO to the Constitution, here again the tribal G7 hope to buy their way into controlling the counties by using WEALTH to campaign across the country.


why should Kenyans have to choose from a lot of spoilt suspect apples when the field is crowed with others like Raila and Karua who voted YES for the constitution and are NATIONALISTS. WHAT PRESIDENTIAL POSITION HAS THE DIGO BEEN PROMISED BY THE G7? Did that coastal vote with the NO camp?


Does he really know the problems of the MIJI KENDA? Which citizen objectives has he fought for with vigor? HAS HE EVER PUT THE NEEDS OF THE COASTAL PEOPLE, LAND, JOBS, THE PORT, AHEAD OF THE TRIBAL G7 INTERESTS?

As a mdigo, what does he gain in being in G7 other than the photo opportunity?
Re: Ocampo/hague Kenya Case by kenyaman: 4:52am On Feb 07, 2012
WE MAY NEED TO WATCH FOR EVEN THE EDUCATION SYSTEM TO ENSURE THAT WE DO NOT IMPORT, THE KENYATTA SYSTEM OF EDUCATION THAT HAS BEEN TRIBAL TO COUNTIES AROUND KENYA.



WE MUST DISMANTLE THE OLD, AND REPLACE IT WITH THE NEW, WHICH IS EVERY COUNTY, TO RUN THEIR OWN AFFAIRS. ROADS, MILTARY AND THE JUDICIAL SUPREME COURT SHOULD BE FEDERAL, ALL OTHERS INCLUDING EDUCATION SHOULD BE A STATE MANDATE.
Re: Ocampo/hague Kenya Case by kenyaman: 4:58am On Feb 07, 2012
WE CAN NO LONGER ACCEPT TRIBAL GEMA LEADERS

WE MUST STEER AWAY FROM TRIBAL LEADERS, WHO SPEAK IN KIKUYU WHEN IN NAIROBI, AND PRETEND TO SPEAK SWAHILI WHEN IN THE COAST


WE MUST NOT LET SUCH LEADERS WHO PLUNDERED LAND TO DOMINATE THE POLITICS OF FREE KENYA

VOTE NO TO TRIBAL LEADERS


VOTE NO TO THOSE WHO REJECTED THE NEW CONSTITUTION

VOTE NO TO THOSE WHO STOLE LAND AND PLUNDERED THE WEALTH RESOURCES OF THE KENYAN REPUBLIC
Re: Ocampo/hague Kenya Case by kenyaman: 5:00am On Feb 07, 2012
vote yes to raila and karua
Re: Ocampo/hague Kenya Case by kenyaman: 7:18am On Feb 25, 2012
THE STRENGTH AND DECISION MAKING OF KENYA MUST LIE ON THE STRENGTH OF THE 47 COUNTIES. NO MORE ONE TRIBE RULE OR ONE TRIBE SETTING OFFICES IN EVERY COUNTY AND PLUNDERING THE WANANCHI. NO, EACH COUNTRY MUST FROM NOW FORWARD RUN


THERE IS VERY DISTURBING TRENDS FOR THIS GOVERNMENT TO WANT TO PASS LOWS THAT CONSOLIDATE THE POWER OF THE CENTRAL GOVERNMENT.

A) IN THE WEST COUNTIES RUN THERE ALL AFFAIRS, RAISE THEIR OWN TAXES FROM THE COUNTY, MANAGE THEIR OWN AFFAIRS AND ONLY COLLABORATE WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IN NATIONAL HIGHWAYS, MILITARY, HEALTH, AND JUDICIAL. EVEN IN THE JUDICIAL COUNTY COURTS RUN CERTAIN ASPECTS OF THE JUDICIAL




HOUSING MUST BE RUN BY THE STATES, OR COUNTIES. QUITE CENTRALIZING KENYA, TO TRIBAL OR THE THIEVES WHO HAVE ALWAYS PAID THEMSELVES HIGH WAGES, AND UNDER CUT COUNTY WANAINCHI WAGES.


WE DO NOT WELCOME THE MWAKWERE, PRESIDENCY IN THE COAST, TIED TO G7, THE SAME CROWD THAT IS ALWAYS INCREASING THEIR WAGES AT THE EXPENSE OF THE KENYAN MWANAINCHI.
Re: Ocampo/hague Kenya Case by kenyaman: 7:19am On Feb 25, 2012
OPSI LAWS
Re: Ocampo/hague Kenya Case by kenyaman: 7:20am On Feb 25, 2012
OPSI THEIR
Re: Ocampo/hague Kenya Case by kenyaman: 7:27am On Feb 25, 2012
WE CANNOT DECENTRALIZE THE NATION, AND HAVE KIKUYU'S, LUO'S KAMBA, GOING AROUND KENYA AND BECOMING NATIONAL ACCOUNTANTS, ADVISERS FOR THE COUNTIES. LET THE PEOPLE DECIDE, STAY OUT OF OTHER PEOPLE'S COUNTIES. LET THE LOCALS DECIDE WHAT IS BEST FOR THEM.



ALL MEMBERS OF THIS PARLIAMENT MUST GO WITH THE OLD AND THEY SHOULD HAVE NO MANDATE TO TAX, DECIDE, MAKE LAWS FOR THE 2013 PARLIAMENT, SENATE OR COUNTY ASSEMBLIES'.


IT IS WRONG FOR THEM TO SET A BUDGET FOR HOW COUNTIES SHOULD BE RUN. THEY FAILED SINCE INDEPENDENCE, LET THE COUNTIES ASSEMBLE THEIR OWN LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND RUN THEIR OWN AFFAIRS.
Re: Ocampo/hague Kenya Case by kenyaman: 7:30am On Feb 25, 2012
one million salary for members of parliament who have barely a bachelors degree, is raping the wallet of the kenyan government. let this parliament be dissolved, let new elections be held, then let the new elect government in favor of the new constitution decide the new evolved kenya
Re: Ocampo/hague Kenya Case by kenyaman: 7:34am On Feb 25, 2012
LET HAGUE ALSO DEAL WITH THE O'CAMPO QUESTION SWIFTLY AND REMOVE THE DARK CLOUD ON THE FOUR.


KENYA NEEDS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH CLEAN CHARACTERS, THE MWAKWERE, MONEY THIRST, FORMING ALLIANCES SHOULD NOT SWAY KENYANS, THEY ARE USING YOUR MILLIONS TO BUY THEMSELVES MORE BILLIONS. USE YOUR VOTES KENYANS WISELY.
Re: Ocampo/hague Kenya Case by kenyaman: 7:44am On Feb 25, 2012
Wewe Pendo89 ulikana, ama ulishuku kkwamba mimi nimkazi wa Kenya. Hivyo ilibidi nijitetea kikweli kawmba, ngozi yangu, akili yangu, mikojo yangu na vyote nilivyonavyo ni vya Kenya
Re: Ocampo/hague Kenya Case by kenyaman: 7:48am On Feb 25, 2012
"Have you ever voted in kenya? did u vote in the new constitution? People who do nothing to propagate anything make the loudest noise.
You are beating drums c'mmon you need to air your opinions on a kenyan forum!!! I am not commenting on ur issues cz we we'll clash.
Talk to kenyans,engage kenyans,challenge kenyans get their views."


ACHA KUYUMBA YUMBA, MKAZI WA KENYA KURA ZAKE NI ZA KENYA. WACHANA NA WALE WANYANYASI, AMBAO KURA ZAO NI ZA KIKABILA. HOJA ZAO NI ZA KIKAMBILA. SUCH MUST BE VOTED OUT, AND WE PUT IN NATIONALISTS LIKE RAILA, KARUA, ETC
Re: Ocampo/hague Kenya Case by kenyaman: 7:50am On Feb 25, 2012
no more tribal chiefs to rule across kenya. let local counties have teeth in their power. running counties from central government must die with the death of the central governance
Re: Ocampo/hague Kenya Case by kenyaman: 8:51am On Feb 25, 2012
THE ONLY REASON RUTO IN THE G7 IS LOOKING FOR MORE FOOLS IN KENYA IS BECAUSE HE THINGS YOU THE VOTER HAS FORGOTTEN THAT HE VOTED 'NO' TO THE CONSTITUTION.


KENYANS BE WARE;.



TAKE PRIDE IN KENYA, ON KENYA'S EFFORT TO GET RIDE OF CORRUPTION AT ALL COST. THIS MEANS WE SHOULD ALL SUPPORT OUR TROOPS.
THIS ALSO IS A NATIONAL GOAL.
WE SHOULD MAKE SURE, NO MORE GREEDY OR CORRUPT MEMBERS OF PARLIAMENT A RETURNED TO THE AUGUST HOUSE AFTER THE ELECTIONS IN KENYA.
THIS ALSO IS A NATIONALIST GOAL.
WE SHOULD MAKE SURE THAT NO ONE TRIBE CONTROLS ALL
THE KENYAN FERTILE, AND MANY ARE GOING LANDLESS WITHOUT EVEN SHELTER.
THIS ALSO IS A NATIONAL GOAL.

WE SHOULD NEVER ALLOW 2% OF THE POPULATION TO PLUNDER THE NATIONAL PURSE IN WAGES, JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE IN POWER. THIS ALSO IS A NATIONAL GOAL.
Re: Ocampo/hague Kenya Case by kenyaman: 2:25am On Feb 26, 2012
When you receive the Kenyaman messages, you are welcome to copy and forward to the Kenya forums like Wazua, make them the consumers of the messages. ACHA KUTEGATEGA, YAANI KUYUMBAYUMBA
Re: Ocampo/hague Kenya Case by kenyaman: 2:27am On Feb 26, 2012
There are more Un9versities than Makerere, however Makerere is an excellent University
Re: Ocampo/hague Kenya Case by kenyaman: 2:30am On Feb 26, 2012
Universities do matter, but excellent students will always go to the best of world universities.
Re: Ocampo/hague Kenya Case by kenyaman: 2:31am On Feb 26, 2012
When I send you a serious piece send it to all Kenyan sites

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