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Drone Attacks On Moscow - Putin's Days Are Numbered by Gbadebo19(m): 7:13pm On Jun 08, 2023
A series of drone attacks in Moscow over the past month may spell the beginning of the end of Russia’s dominance over Ukraine — and could lead to the demise of President Vladimir Putin, says an expert on the region.
This is the beginning of the end for Putin,” said Luke Coffey, an expert on Russia from the Hudson Institute, a Washington, DC-based think-tank, according to the Daily Mail.
The trajectory now is towards Putin being ousted and the further breakup of the Russian Federation.”

Two suicide drones exploded over the roof of the Kremlin on May 3, and weeks later, drones hit Moscow’s wealthy suburbs as Ukraine began its counteroffensive against Russia.
As Ukraine begins attacks on Russia, one expert believes that it could spell the beginning of the end of Russian leader Vladimir Putin’s reign.

Coffey told the outlet that a Russian defeat in the Ukraine war is inevitable, although he did not know how long it would take.

But when it does come, he predicted that it would lead to the collapse of the Russian Federation.
This is the beginning of the end for Putin,” said Luke Coffey, an expert on Russia from the Hudson Institute said.

Coffey said historians will likely cite February 2022, the month Russia invaded Ukraine, as “the most significant moment of that collapse.”

“The dust is still settling. I believe the 15 countries that emerged in 1991 [when the Soviet Union collapsed] was the safety glass breaking,” he added. “The next round of shattering will be like a 150-year-old pane of glass breaking in an old house. It will shatter in dangerous ways and won’t be easy to repair or fix.”

Coffey said a Russian defeat will lead to further divisions among the country’s elites, with hardliners turning against Putin and oligarchs demanding an end to the bloodshed — and their pariah status in the West in an attempt to maintain their own wealth and power.

Putin, he said, will either end up dead or forced into exile.

Source: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12152585/Recent-attacks-spell-doom-Putin-break-Russia-expert-warns.html

Re: Drone Attacks On Moscow - Putin's Days Are Numbered by Jostoman: 7:25pm On Jun 08, 2023
Make putin just embrace peace and Stop his senseless war in Ukraine.

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Re: Drone Attacks On Moscow - Putin's Days Are Numbered by gaby(m): 7:36pm On Jun 08, 2023
When Putin do him own make una no go on air dey drool from every corner of una mouth sha....

Craze is universal.
Re: Drone Attacks On Moscow - Putin's Days Are Numbered by udede(m): 8:18pm On Jun 08, 2023
Op
You know nothing about Putin nor the powers he weild

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Re: Drone Attacks On Moscow - Putin's Days Are Numbered by iykofias(m): 8:32pm On Jun 08, 2023
So I’m suppose to believe an expert in Russia that lives in Washington grin

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Re: Drone Attacks On Moscow - Putin's Days Are Numbered by Gbadebo19(m): 8:39pm On Jun 08, 2023
iykofias:
So I’m suppose to believe an expert in Russia that lives in Washington grin
It is not by force naw.
Re: Drone Attacks On Moscow - Putin's Days Are Numbered by Tonymegabush1(m): 8:49pm On Jun 08, 2023
War is not fought in the media.
Re: Drone Attacks On Moscow - Putin's Days Are Numbered by Globetrot: 8:57pm On Jun 08, 2023
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣, imagine

iykofias:
So I’m suppose to believe an expert in Russia that lives in Washington grin
Re: Drone Attacks On Moscow - Putin's Days Are Numbered by Gbadebo19(m): 9:18pm On Jun 08, 2023
Tonymegabush1:
War is not fought in the media.
Ok then, since you are a journalist that is present on the battlefield, give us a situation report. grin grin
Re: Drone Attacks On Moscow - Putin's Days Are Numbered by franchasofficia: 9:26pm On Jun 08, 2023
All the Muslims cheering Putin on will desert him when the time comes.



How can people be supporting Putin's invasion of a sovereign nation on the allegation that they are planning to join NATO, and some people who call themselves humans are supporting the massacre of innocent children, women, elderly and handicapped persons by Putin's Army, just because they hate America. If Putin and Russia believe they are too strong and indomitable, what stops them from sending missiles to US, UK, Germany, France and not go about bullying a small struggling nation like Ukraine on the pretext of stopping them from joining NATO? Imagine the thousands of innocent Ukrainians killed by Putin's insane, unnecessary invasion of Ukraine yet some heartless souls keep supporting Putin. God of justice is watching you all.



No matter what, I strongly believe there are forces beyond humans that balances things on earth and it will reward us all according to the things we support and cherish

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Re: Drone Attacks On Moscow - Putin's Days Are Numbered by nnatobryno(m): 10:01pm On Jun 08, 2023
Gbadebo19:
A series of drone attacks in Moscow over the past month may spell the beginning of the end of Russia’s dominance over Ukraine — and could lead to the demise of President Vladimir Putin, says an expert on the region.
This is the beginning of the end for Putin,” said Luke Coffey, an expert on Russia from the Hudson Institute, a Washington, DC-based think-tank, according to the Daily Mail.
The trajectory now is towards Putin being ousted and the further breakup of the Russian Federation.”

Two suicide drones exploded over the roof of the Kremlin on May 3, and weeks later, drones hit Moscow’s wealthy suburbs as Ukraine began its counteroffensive against Russia.
As Ukraine begins attacks on Russia, one expert believes that it could spell the beginning of the end of Russian leader Vladimir Putin’s reign.

Coffey told the outlet that a Russian defeat in the Ukraine war is inevitable, although he did not know how long it would take.

But when it does come, he predicted that it would lead to the collapse of the Russian Federation.
This is the beginning of the end for Putin,” said Luke Coffey, an expert on Russia from the Hudson Institute said.

Coffey said historians will likely cite February 2022, the month Russia invaded Ukraine, as “the most significant moment of that collapse.”

“The dust is still settling. I believe the 15 countries that emerged in 1991 [when the Soviet Union collapsed] was the safety glass breaking,” he added. “The next round of shattering will be like a 150-year-old pane of glass breaking in an old house. It will shatter in dangerous ways and won’t be easy to repair or fix.”

Coffey said a Russian defeat will lead to further divisions among the country’s elites, with hardliners turning against Putin and oligarchs demanding an end to the bloodshed — and their pariah status in the West in an attempt to maintain their own wealth and power.

Putin, he said, will either end up dead or forced into exile.

Source: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12152585/Recent-attacks-spell-doom-Putin-break-Russia-expert-warns.html


You are simply brainwashed. Your reliance on news from US/west controlled News channel is affecting your rational mind.

Lemme ask you, what reaction will u expect from the US if Russia/china secures agreement to establish a military in Mexico or Canada.

You need to understand that the world will be more stable without the US. Look at Libya, your backyard, remember Iraq or is it Afghanistan?

Your judgement most times clearly tell on whose side you are, wont be surprised to find out that you are a Ukrainian intelligence officer or PR contractor

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Re: Drone Attacks On Moscow - Putin's Days Are Numbered by Gadafii: 1:03am On Jun 09, 2023
As long as US will not allow Russia or china to have base in Cuba or Mexico, Russia can do what ever the fuxk they like to stop US from having base in Ukraine

US would have nuked Mexico or Cuba if this situation was reversed

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Re: Drone Attacks On Moscow - Putin's Days Are Numbered by Gbadebo19(m): 4:27am On Jun 09, 2023
nnatobryno:


You are simply brainwashed. Your reliance on news from US/west controlled News channel is affecting your rational mind.

Lemme ask you, what reaction will u expect from the US if Russia/china secures agreement to establish a military in Mexico or Canada.

You need to understand that the world will be more stable without the US. Look at Libya, your backyard, remember Iraq or is it Afghanistan?

Your judgement most times clearly tell on whose side you are, wont be surprised to find out that you are a Ukrainian intelligence officer or PR contractor
The foolishness in your argument is when news come from the west, it is propaganda. Prove to me that your so called news sources are not propaganda.
When was the last time you used a Chinese controlled search engine to look up information?
When was the last time you used duck duck go (Chinese version of Google)
When news do not favour you, it is propaganda, but when Reuters and Yahoo report the success of Putin in bombing ukraine. You post it and forget that it is the same western media. Bunch of sick brains.
And you even said the world would be much more stable without US? Are you kidding me? It is honestly not your fault. If the US had allowed the likes of Osama Bin Laden and ISIS to bomb you into oblivion, you will know how to be grateful for once in your life?

You are even asking me to look at Libya?
Seriously, you people are a bunch if ungrateful people. Do you know how it feels to be a victim of human rights abuses? You blame US for Libyan crisis as if you will ever choose Libya, Iraq or Afghanistan over US if given a blank visa.
Your hypocrisy is at another level.
Re: Drone Attacks On Moscow - Putin's Days Are Numbered by nnatobryno(m): 8:57am On Jun 09, 2023
Gbadebo19:

The foolishness in your argument is when news come from the west, it is propaganda. Prove to me that your so called news sources are not propaganda.
When was the last time you used a Chinese controlled search engine to look up information?
When was the last time you used duck duck go (Chinese version of Google)
When news do not favour you, it is propaganda, but when Reuters and Yahoo report the success of Putin in bombing ukraine. You post it and forget that it is the same western media. Bunch of sick brains.
And you even said the world would be much more stable without US? Are you kidding me? It is honestly not your fault. If the US had allowed the likes of Osama Bin Laden and ISIS to bomb you into oblivion, you will know how to be grateful for once in your life?

You are even asking me to look at Libya?
Seriously, you people are a bunch if ungrateful people. Do you know how it feels to be a victim of human rights abuses? You blame US for Libyan crisis as if you will ever choose Libya, Iraq or Afghanistan over US if given a blank visa.
Your hypocrisy is at another level.

You are probably a very young guy moved by emotions as seen in your write-up, above. Lemme educate you on what led to the invasion of Ukraine. A democratically elected president was toppled by an uprising instigated by the US leading to a more west-aligned current president and the one before. Russia ever since has been engaging the current Ukrainian Administration on the way to give Russia speaking people of Ukraine special status to stop the abuses meted on them by the Ukrainian Government but all fell to deaf hears because Zelensky felt that his romance with the west is enough security guarantee his Country.

The US has fought wars in Africa, Asia even the tension in Taiwan/Koreans over threat to their National Security, Why will Russia not Preemptively defend themselves in a case that Ukraine (their neighbour) is now posing serious threat to them or are you saying that Ukraine's romance with the West and NATO does not pose any security threat to a superpower like Russia? Why do you think NATO was formed? The current World Order favours the West/US that is why Bush/Tony Blair are still working free after the genocide they committed in Iraq.

Do your research and think well, don't allow emotion about the current deaths affect your judgement, those are collateral damage common with war and both sides have suffered from it.

Ukraine must remain a neutral Country for Russia to feel safe.

Do you gerrrrrit
Re: Drone Attacks On Moscow - Putin's Days Are Numbered by Livelystone01: 8:59am On Jun 09, 2023
Gbadebo19:

The foolishness in your argument is when news come from the west, it is propaganda. Prove to me that your so called news sources are not propaganda.
When was the last time you used a Chinese controlled search engine to look up information?
When was the last time you used duck duck go (Chinese version of Google)
When news do not favour you, it is propaganda, but when Reuters and Yahoo report the success of Putin in bombing ukraine. You post it and forget that it is the same western media. Bunch of sick brains.
And you even said the world would be much more stable without US? Are you kidding me? It is honestly not your fault. If the US had allowed the likes of Osama Bin Laden and ISIS to bomb you into oblivion, you will know how to be grateful for once in your life?

You are even asking me to look at Libya?
Seriously, you people are a bunch if ungrateful people. Do you know how it feels to be a victim of human rights abuses? You blame US for Libyan crisis as if you will ever choose Libya, Iraq or Afghanistan over US if given a blank visa.
Your hypocrisy is at another level.
What are you saying bro?
Was Libya not better off before now? How were they restricted when they were being paid to do nothing then? Why do you think most west Africans flooded the country then? They literally did nothing but get paid, these immigrants were the ones working.

As for ISIS, it will shock you to know that they began and were being sponsored by the so-called peacemakers. Do you know that if there's no war, the military complex in the West will go bankrupt? Why do you think groups are being sponsored or nations who do not go with their ideas are being destabilized?

Talking about Osama Bin Laden, do you know he was a former CIA? Isn't it clear enough for all to see that the US used him but he turned on them? Doesn't that make you wrong again? If they hadn't trained Osama, he wouldn't have been the terrorist he was.

Do you not know how terrorists are classified by the West and US, it is based on what they feel they want out of it. When they support you, you are a rebel, militant, freedom fighter, but when it is against them, you become a terrorist for doing same thing they labeled someone else differently.

Let me shock you, why do you think the West and US would rather fund a smaller group just to fight against an enemy that can destroy them? They operate on collateral damage of let there be casualties on other areas.

Just as the CIA and other US agencies are helping some drug barons in Mexico, that's how ISIS and co have their backings from these guys.
Re: Drone Attacks On Moscow - Putin's Days Are Numbered by Tonymegabush1(m): 9:44am On Jun 09, 2023
Gbadebo19:

Ok then, since you are a journalist that is present on the battlefield, give us a situation report. grin grin

Sponsor my visa to Ukraine and I will feed you information from the battlefield
Re: Drone Attacks On Moscow - Putin's Days Are Numbered by Gbadebo19(m): 9:45am On Jun 09, 2023
nnatobryno:


You are probably a very young guy moved by emotions as seen in your write-up, above. Lemme educate you on what led to the invasion of Ukraine. A democratically elected president was toppled by an uprising instigated by the US leading to a more west-aligned current president and the one before. Russia ever since has been engaging the current Ukrainian Administration on the way to give Russia speaking people of Ukraine special status to stop the abuses meted on them by the Ukrainian Government but all fell to deaf hears because Zelensky felt that his romance with the west is enough security guarantee his Country.

The US has fought wars in Africa, Asia even the tension in Taiwan/Koreans over threat to their National Security, Why will Russia not Preemptively defend themselves in a case that Ukraine (their neighbour) is now posing serious threat to them or are you saying that Ukraine's romance with the West and NATO does not pose any security threat to a superpower like Russia? Why do you think NATO was formed? The current World Order favours the West/US that is why Bush/Tony Blair are still working free after the genocide they committed in Iraq.

Do your research and think well, don't allow emotion about the current deaths affect your judgement, those are collateral damage common with war and both sides have suffered from it.

Ukraine must remain a neutral Country for Russia to feel safe.

Do you gerrrrrit

Wao!!! What a very sound argument. I will now tell you something too to prove that I am not moved by emotions.
First of all, the independence of Ukraine from the soviet union in 1991 was not without western powers (US and UK) talking it (Ukraine) into giving up its missiles in exchange for independence.
Note the year 1991, I put it there to prove that western alliance with Ukraine did NOT start with the so called west inclined Zelensky or the president before him but at the fall of the soviet union.
Secondly, Ukraine practically paid a price for its independence by giving up its missiles. It is only normal for it to have an alliance with the west who persuaded it to do so.
Next, you said Russia has been engaging with the Ukrainian administration to give Russian speaking people special status. I will point out a fact to you. At the time Ukraine voted for independence in 1991, every region voted massively for independence. The region with the lowest vote was Crimea. (Note: I did not say Crimea did not vote for independence but that it was the region with the lowest percentage).
Considering the above, the minority who did not vote for independence cannot overrule the majority even in their region. That is akin to lumping the south south of Nigeria together with the Biafran secession agitation.
On your 4th point on US fighting war in Africa, I must tell you that the US has never engaged any African military in direct confrontation. Every US mission in Africa is either about the suppression of terrorist activities or protection of human rights (backed by the UN Security council).
As for Korea, South Korea specifically requested the help of US in combatting North Korea. You will see all these informations from experts and neutral minded people who answer questions on Quora.
On why NATO was formed: NATO was formed in order to prevent the never ending wars that usually broke out in Europe not specifically to counter Russia.
Now you claim Ukraine is posing serious threat to Russia because of its alliance with the west, that is not true. If Russia had not annexed Crimea, the rest of Ukraine will not be looking for how to defend itself from further annexation. The handwriting is clear on the wall. Vladimir Putin has an attitude and the former soviet states have noticed it. When a section of a former soviet state pushes to return to Russia, instead of leaving the country to solve the issue within itself where the worst case scenario will be a civil war, Russia quickly moves its troops into that country. This is a fact that occurred in Georgia as well as the Donetsk Peoples Republic. That is the reason why Georgia has cut off all diplomatic ties with Russia. Russia did same thing in Donetsk, annexed Crimea and smaller countries such as Montenegro and North Macedonia joined NATO.
It is very clear to see the path Russia is towing in restoring the old Soviet Union.
Now I will talk about the so called genocide committed by Bush in another quote to prove to you that I am much more educated and objective than you think.
Re: Drone Attacks On Moscow - Putin's Days Are Numbered by Gbadebo19(m): 10:14am On Jun 09, 2023
nnatobryno:


You are probably a very young guy moved by emotions as seen in your write-up, above. Lemme educate you on what led to the invasion of Ukraine. A democratically elected president was toppled by an uprising instigated by the US leading to a more west-aligned current president and the one before. Russia ever since has been engaging the current Ukrainian Administration on the way to give Russia speaking people of Ukraine special status to stop the abuses meted on them by the Ukrainian Government but all fell to deaf hears because Zelensky felt that his romance with the west is enough security guarantee his Country.

The US has fought wars in Africa, Asia even the tension in Taiwan/Koreans over threat to their National Security, Why will Russia not Preemptively defend themselves in a case that Ukraine (their neighbour) is now posing serious threat to them or are you saying that Ukraine's romance with the West and NATO does not pose any security threat to a superpower like Russia? Why do you think NATO was formed? The current World Order favours the West/US that is why Bush/Tony Blair are still working free after the genocide they committed in Iraq.

Do your research and think well, don't allow emotion about the current deaths affect your judgement, those are collateral damage common with war and both sides have suffered from it.

Ukraine must remain a neutral Country for Russia to feel safe.

Do you gerrrrrit
On your issue of genocide. Genocide was first recognized as a crime after the second world war. It was entrenched in the Rome Statute which was created by the Geneva convention of 1949. The statute created the ICC which has a mandate to prosecute international crines and crimes against humanity. This is where expertise of law comes in. International agreements are only enforceable on the doctrine of "Pacta Sunt Servanda" which means it can only be enforced up to the level the cooperating States allow it because the ICC does not have a police system to enforce judgement.
The ICC does not try countries, only individuals. Therefore, it can only prosecute an individual if the country in which he resides cooperates with the ICC.
For the ICC to be able to prosecute anybody, the country in which the person resides must have been a signatory to the Rome Statute mentioned above which gives The Hague (ICC) prosecution powers.
Now, it is a different thing for a country to be a signatory to a international agreement, it is another thing for the agreement to be ratified by the legislature of that country. (A discussion on this aspect for another day cos it is lengthy).
Countries that never signed it are: China, Ethiopia, India, Iraq, North Korea, Saudi Arabia, Turkey and Indonesia. This basically means that they do not cooperate with the ICC at all.
Countries that signed but their legislature never ratified it are: Egypt, Iran, Israel, Russia, US, Sudan and Syria.
This means that while offending individuals remain in these countries, the ICC cannot do anything until they move to a country that both signed and ratified the Rome Statute AND that country cooperates to hand them over to ICC ( Remember the Pacta Sunt Servanda) doctrine I mentioned earlier.
Now on the issue of Bush and Tony Blair, I want you to know that legal terminologies are most times not in consonance with what the common man perceives it to be. For instance, a crime will be genocide if it is:
1. Targeted at a specific group of people. (Large scale killing of Tutsis by Hutus in Rwanda)
2. It must be planned and systematic. (This is the reason why the Nigerian civil war will not be regarded as genocide)

These are the two I can remember for now. There are a host of others. Also remember that ALL of them must occur because the Statute uses the word "AND". If any part is missing, it is another crime entirely.
Now tell me, which one did Bush or Blair commit in what I have listed above. The ball is now in your court to prove me wrong as someone who is emotionally driven.
Re: Drone Attacks On Moscow - Putin's Days Are Numbered by nnatobryno(m): 10:30am On Jun 09, 2023
Gbadebo19:


Wao!!! What a very sound argument. I will now tell you something too to prove that I am not moved by emotions.
First of all, the independence of Ukraine from the soviet union in 1991 was not without western powers (US and UK) talking it (Ukraine) into giving up its missiles in exchange for independence.
Note the year 1991, I put it there to prove that western alliance with Ukraine did NOT start with the so called west inclined Zelensky or the president before him but at the fall of the soviet union.
Secondly, Ukraine practically paid a price for its independence by giving up its missiles. It is only normal for it to have an alliance with the west who persuaded it to do so.
Next, you said Russia has been engaging with the Ukrainian administration to give Russian speaking people special status. I will point out a fact to you. At the time Ukraine voted for independence in 1991, every region voted massively for independence. The region with the lowest vote was Crimea. (Note: I did not say Crimea did not vote for independence but that it was the region with the lowest percentage).
Considering the above, the minority who did not vote for independence cannot overrule the majority even in their region. That is akin to lumping the south south of Nigeria together with the Biafran secession agitation.
On your 4th point on US fighting war in Africa, I must tell you that the US has never engaged any African military in direct confrontation. Every US mission in Africa is either about the suppression of terrorist activities or protection of human rights (backed by the UN Security council).
As for Korea, South Korea specifically requested the help of US in combatting North Korea. You will see all these informations from experts and neutral minded people who answer questions on Quora.
On why NATO was formed: NATO was formed in order to prevent the never ending wars that usually broke out in Europe not specifically to counter Russia.
Now you claim Ukraine is posing serious threat to Russia because of its alliance with the west, that is not true. If Russia had not annexed Crimea, the rest of Ukraine will not be looking for how to defend itself from further annexation. The handwriting is clear on the wall. Vladimir Putin has an attitude and the former soviet states have noticed it. When a section of a former soviet state pushes to return to Russia, instead of leaving the country to solve the issue within itself where the worst case scenario will be a civil war, Russia quickly moves its troops into that country. This is a fact that occurred in Georgia as well as the Donetsk Peoples Republic. That is the reason why Georgia has cut off all diplomatic ties with Russia. Russia did same thing in Donetsk, annexed Crimea and smaller countries such as Montenegro and North Macedonia joined NATO.
It is very clear to see the path Russia is towing in restoring the old Soviet Union.
Now I will talk about the so called genocide committed by Bush in another quote to prove to you that I am much more educated and objective than you think.

You are forcing yourself to sound informed but you keep muddling everything.

Russia just like the other superpowers will do everything possible to protect their interest both at home and abroad which is why the US is directly/indirectly involved in wars all over the world. Putin in his speech on the eve of the invasion put down some points that i think you should go back and watch.

To further correct you, NATO is an alliance formed to secure peace in Europe and to guard their freedom – all of this in the context of countering the threat posed at the time by the Soviet Union https://www.nato.int/wearenato/why-was-nato-founded.html#:~:text=Its%20purpose%20was%20to%20secure,European%20and%20North%20American%20countries

You know nothing about the Korean War so I don't want to engage you on that.

What led to the annexation of Crimea? Do you know? Go and research.

You are so aligned with the West that you see nothing wrong in anything they do, which I don't blame you, cuz most of the mainstream media are heavily controlled/influenced by the West.
Re: Drone Attacks On Moscow - Putin's Days Are Numbered by Gbadebo19(m): 10:43am On Jun 09, 2023
nnatobryno:


You are forcing yourself to sound informed but you keep muddling everything.

Russia just like the other superpowers will do everything possible to protect their interest both at home and abroad which is why the US is directly/indirectly involved in wars all over the world. Putin in his speech on the eve of the invasion put down some points that i think you should go back and watch.

To further correct you, NATO is an alliance formed to secure peace in Europe and to guard their freedom – all of this in the context of countering the threat posed at the time by the Soviet Union https://www.nato.int/wearenato/why-was-nato-founded.html#:~:text=Its%20purpose%20was%20to%20secure,European%20and%20North%20American%20countries

You know nothing about the Korean War so I don't want to engage you on that.

What led to the annexation of Crimea? Do you know? Go and research.

You are so aligned with the West that you see nothing wrong in anything they do, which I don't blame you, cuz most of the mainstream media are heavily controlled/influenced by the West.
Just look at yourself. I said NATO was formed to counter incessant breakout of wars in Europe, you said NATO was formed to secure peace in Europe. Any difference?
What led to annexation of Crimea? How can you on earth justify the invasion of a sovereign state that practically paid for its independence?
If after reading all that, you still don't see anything wrong with Russia trying to restore a broken soviet union. I have no business educating you anymore. Enjoy your ignorance just because you hate the west.
Re: Drone Attacks On Moscow - Putin's Days Are Numbered by Kingsnairaland(m): 10:45am On Jun 09, 2023
Biden defense saw ordinary plane that lost it track approaching him and they blew the plane to chit and your talking about drones that means nothing while Biden is shit scared of his life

Biden has cancer he will probably die before Putin.
Re: Drone Attacks On Moscow - Putin's Days Are Numbered by nnatobryno(m): 10:48am On Jun 09, 2023
Gbadebo19:

On your issue of genocide. Genocide was first recognized as a crime after the second world war. It was entrenched in the Rome Statute which was created by the Geneva convention of 1949. The statute created the ICC which has a mandate to prosecute international crines and crimes against humanity. This is where expertise of law comes in. International agreements are only enforceable on the doctrine of "Pacta Sunt Servanda" which means it can only be enforced up to the level the cooperating States allow it because the ICC does not have a police system to enforce judgement.
The ICC does not try countries, only individuals. Therefore, it can only prosecute an individual if the country in which he resides cooperates with the ICC.
For the ICC to be able to prosecute anybody, the country in which the person resides must have been a signatory to the Rome Statute mentioned above which gives The Hague (ICC) prosecution powers.
Now, it is a different thing for a country to be a signatory to a international agreement, it is another thing for the agreement to be ratified by the legislature of that country. (A discussion on this aspect for another day cos it is lengthy).
Countries that never signed it are: China, Ethiopia, India, Iraq, North Korea, Saudi Arabia, Turkey and Indonesia. This basically means that they do not cooperate with the ICC at all.
Countries that signed but their legislature never ratified it are: Egypt, Iran, Israel, Russia, US, Sudan and Syria.
This means that while offending individuals remain in these countries, the ICC cannot do anything until they move to a country that both signed and ratified the Rome Statute AND that country cooperates to hand them over to ICC ( Remember the Pacta Sunt Servanda) doctrine I mentioned earlier.
Now on the issue of Bush and Tony Blair, I want you to know that legal terminologies are most times not in consonance with what the common man perceives it to be. For instance, a crime will be genocide if it is:
1. Targeted at a specific group of people. (Large scale killing of Tutsis by Hutus in Rwanda)
2. It must be planned and systematic. (This is the reason why the Nigerian civil war will not be regarded as genocide)

These are the two I can remember for now. There are a host of others. Also remember that ALL of them must occur because the Statute uses the word "AND". If any part is missing, it is another crime entirely.
Now tell me, which one did Bush or Blair commit in what I have listed above. The ball is now in your court to prove me wrong as someone who is emotionally driven.

The only difference between Russia's invasion of Ukraine and the Iraqi War is that Bush/Blair deceived the world and secured a UN resolution which obviously was possible because the world order favors them. They invaded Iraq, killed indiscriminately, fired at people attending parties and others as released by[i] Julian Assange's Wikileaks[/i]

Iraq was invaded under the false pretense of WMD, of which after the war no single evidence was found. Muammar Gadafi was killed because he always opposed the West and rejected the too much freedom that come with Democracy. Libyans/Africa were better off with him.

These things are deep but I advise you to read more from people that criticize the West as well as the ones promoting their agenda for you to get a balanced view of things.
Re: Drone Attacks On Moscow - Putin's Days Are Numbered by nnatobryno(m): 10:50am On Jun 09, 2023
Gbadebo19:

Just look at yourself. I said NATO was formed to counter incessant breakout of wars in Europe, you said NATO was formed to secure peace in Europe. Any difference?
What led to annexation of Crimea? How can you on earth justify the invasion of a sovereign state that practically paid for its independence?
If after reading all that, you still don't see anything wrong with Russia trying to restore a broken soviet union. I have no business educating you anymore. Enjoy your ignorance just because you hate the west.

Read again you will see the difference:

To further correct you, NATO is an alliance formed to secure peace in Europe and to guard their freedom – all of this in the context of countering the threat posed at the time by the Soviet Union https://www.nato.int/wearenato/why-was-nato-founded.html#:~:text=Its%20purpose%20was%20to%20secure,European%20and%20North%20American%20countries

NATO was formed to counter Russia/Soviet Union.

I'm you Teacher today, permit me to educate you more.
Re: Drone Attacks On Moscow - Putin's Days Are Numbered by Gbadebo19(m): 10:52am On Jun 09, 2023
nnatobryno:


The only difference between Russia's invasion of Ukraine and the Iraqi War is that Bush/Blair deceived the world and secured a UN resolution which obviously was possible because the world order favors them. They invaded Iraq, killed indiscriminately, fired at people attending parties and others as released by[i] Julian Assange's Wikileaks[/i]

Iraq was invaded under the false pretense of WMD, of which after the war no single evidence was found. Muammar Gadafi was killed because he always opposed the West and rejected the too much freedom that come with Democracy. Libyans/Africa were better off with him.

These things are deep but I advise you to read more from people that criticize the West as well as the ones promoting their agenda for you to get a balanced view of things.
The action of US in Iraq must be backed by all 5 permanent members of the UN security council which the same Russia you are backing supported.
Let's say the US deceived them, do they not have a mind if their own? Or can't they just abstain from voting?
You guys just dey justify evil because your darling Russia is at the receiving end.
Re: Drone Attacks On Moscow - Putin's Days Are Numbered by Gbadebo19(m): 10:54am On Jun 09, 2023
nnatobryno:


Read again you will see the difference:

To further correct you, NATO is an alliance formed to secure peace in Europe and to guard their freedom – all of this in the context of countering the threat posed at the time by the Soviet Union https://www.nato.int/wearenato/why-was-nato-founded.html#:~:text=Its%20purpose%20was%20to%20secure,European%20and%20North%20American%20countries

NATO was formed to counter Russia/Soviet Union.

I'm you Teacher today, permit me to educate you more.
My God!!! You don't seem to understand things in context.
Re: Drone Attacks On Moscow - Putin's Days Are Numbered by Gbadebo19(m): 10:58am On Jun 09, 2023
nnatobryno:


Read again you will see the difference:

To further correct you, NATO is an alliance formed to secure peace in Europe and to guard their freedom – all of this in the context of countering the threat posed at the time by the Soviet Union https://www.nato.int/wearenato/why-was-nato-founded.html#:~:text=Its%20purpose%20was%20to%20secure,European%20and%20North%20American%20countries

NATO was formed to counter Russia/Soviet Union.

I'm you Teacher today, permit me to educate you more.
Let's go by your supposed differece which says NATO was created to counter the threat posed by the soviet union. You will then agree with me that the soviet union was a threat to other peace loving nations in Europe, not to America or Britain won't you?
That succinctly answers the question of Russia being an aggressor from time immemorial. Cest finis.

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Re: Drone Attacks On Moscow - Putin's Days Are Numbered by Gbadebo19(m): 11:01am On Jun 09, 2023
nnatobryno:


The only difference between Russia's invasion of Ukraine and the Iraqi War is that Bush/Blair deceived the world and secured a UN resolution which obviously was possible because the world order favors them. They invaded Iraq, killed indiscriminately, fired at people attending parties and others as released by[i] Julian Assange's Wikileaks[/i]

Iraq was invaded under the false pretense of WMD, of which after the war no single evidence was found. Muammar Gadafi was killed because he always opposed the West and rejected the too much freedom that come with Democracy. Libyans/Africa were better off with him.

These things are deep but I advise you to read more from people that criticize the West as well as the ones promoting their agenda for you to get a balanced view of things.
I advise you read again about Muammar Ghaddafi. Allegations of Human rights abuses against him had been existing since 1971. And don't even accuse US here cos that mission was led by France, they only shared intelligence with US.

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