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Why Amazon Should Sue INEC And Demand Billions Of Dollars In Damages. by Penguin2: 11:34pm On Jun 19, 2023
Today, an Amazon employee and a Cloud Engineer and Architect testified in court at the ongoing Presidential Petition Tribunal and brought with her, 33 reports from 6 regions of the country to refute INEC’s claim that the reason it failed to follow the Electoral Law that mandates it to upload results from polling units was because it’s website suffered “technical glitches”.

The implication of INEC’s claim, if it finally stands, is that Amazon has lied to millions of its customers worldwide on the reliability of its web hosting platform. Recall that Amazon prides that it’s AWS infrastructure is 99.9% efficient in all technological ramifications; from limitless storage capacity to security of data to seamless experience in using the platform. It is therefore imperative for Amazon to clear its name so as to reassure its customers that the platform is still reliable.

Failure to clear its name and incontrovertibly demonstrate in court that its platform is reliable and that INEC lied, the platform might face barrage of lawsuits from users who would cite the failure of AWS in Nigeria as ground to prove that Amazon had lied to them while marketing the platform to them that AWS was 99.9% reliable. Such lawsuits might lead to Amazon losing billions of dollars in damages claims. But it won’t stop there.

Not only would Amazon lose billions of in damages claims, it might also lose its existing customers to rival platforms and they would also likely lose potential clients who would rather deploy rival platforms than deploy AWS that has “failed in Nigeria”.

That is why I am calling on Amazon, that not only should it concentrate on incontrovertibly demonstrating that INEC liked through its teeth just so it could rig the election for Tinubu, they should also sue INEC, either in Nigeria or US, and demand billions of dollars in damages unless INEC is able to incontrovertibly prove in court that it did suffer “technical glitches” and that AWS truly failed, for the first time ever, in Nigeria.

I’ve said it before and I will reiterate it for the umpteenth time, that for the courts to uphold Tinubu’s ‘victory’, they would have to render a greater chunk of the 1999 constitution and the entire Electoral Act 2022 useless.

Like Aisha Yesufu said, “our business is not to trust the judiciary, our business is to overwhelm the judiciary with evidence.”


By the time Obi is done in court, the Judiciary would have no option than to do justice.

Rerun is the best that Tinubu can get out of the courts.

We watch and wait!

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Re: Why Amazon Should Sue INEC And Demand Billions Of Dollars In Damages. by SangoOlukosoOba(m): 11:50pm On Jun 19, 2023

“it’s website suffered “technical glitches”.


I am very certain that whoever composed this gibberish is not an IT expert.

What has AWS got to do with the INEC website? The fact that you hosting a website on AWS does not make AWS responsible for any glitch. You are still 100% liable for websites technical issues.

Oh! You want Amazon to sue INEC because their website had technical issues? 🤣🤣🤣

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Re: Why Amazon Should Sue INEC And Demand Billions Of Dollars In Damages. by StreetFight: 11:52pm On Jun 19, 2023
DO you mean the witness who works for Amazon, but also contested election as a Labourers Party candidate?

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Re: Why Amazon Should Sue INEC And Demand Billions Of Dollars In Damages. by Jostoman: 11:53pm On Jun 19, 2023
He has started preparing in case there is a re- run that was the reason why he has started removing anybody who he is removable including the service chiefs.

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Re: Why Amazon Should Sue INEC And Demand Billions Of Dollars In Damages. by GeneralPula: 12:05am On Jun 20, 2023
Okay..

Amazon will do that on Monday..

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Re: Why Amazon Should Sue INEC And Demand Billions Of Dollars In Damages. by DevilsEqual(m): 12:05am On Jun 20, 2023
Jostoman:
He has started preparing for any re run that was the reason why he has started removing anybody who he is removable including the service chiefs.


Rerun of a presidential election in Nigeria,even with the huge debt on our neck
Na u go borrow us another 400B to run that one


Comments being made by most Obi supporters is a proof that our educational system Needs total overhauling.... Most of u arent even brilliant and CNT think independently too

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Re: Why Amazon Should Sue INEC And Demand Billions Of Dollars In Damages. by Penguin2: 12:07am On Jun 20, 2023
SangoOlukosoOba:

“it’s website suffered “technical glitches”.


I am very certain that whoever composed this gibberish is not an IT expert.

What has AWS got to do with the INEC website? The fact that you hosting a website on AWS does not make AWS responsible for any glitch. You are still 100% liable for websites technical issues.


Do you even understand what cloud storage is? Eh Mr IT expert?

Let me make an illustration and try to break it down like you are a primary 2 pupil….

Let’s say Adeniyi Incorporated opens a warehouse. He doesn’t sale any goods but he tells those who sale goods that he can be helping them secure their goods in his warehouse while they pay him for his services. The traders agreed.

Now, one day, a supplier ordered for goods from one of the traders who stores his goods with Adeniyi Incorporated. When it was time to deliver, the trader who stores goods with Adeniyi Incorporated failed to supply to the customer who placed order with him and blamed it on Adeniyi Incorporated for failing to secure the goods he kept under the care of the company.

Do you know what that means?

It means Adeniyi Incorporated cannot be trusted with people’s goods. The onus now lies on Adeniyi Incorporated to prove that it is the trader that is dubious and not his company that failed on its duties.

Now, if we are to follow your argument, we would then argue, that even though the trader paid Adeniyi Incorporated to secure his goods, the security of such goods is still not on Adeniyi Incorporated but on the trader. Does that make sense? If yes, why was Adeniyi Incorporated paid in the first place?

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Re: Why Amazon Should Sue INEC And Demand Billions Of Dollars In Damages. by SangoOlukosoOba(m): 12:09am On Jun 20, 2023
Penguin2:


Do you even understand what cloud storage is? Eh Mr IT expert?

Let me make an illustration and try to break it down like you are a primary 2 pupil….

Let’s say Adeniyi Incorporated opens a warehouse. He doesn’t sale any goods but he tells those who sale goods that he can be helping them secure their goods in his warehouse while they pay him for his services. The traders agreed.

Now, one day, a supplier ordered for goods from one of the traders who stores his goods with Adeniyi Incorporated. When it was time to deliver, the trader who stores goods with Adeniyi Incorporated failed to supply to the customer who placed order with him and blamed it on Adeniyi Incorporated for failing to secure the goods he kept under the care of the company.

Do you know what that means?

It means Adeniyi Incorporated cannot be trusted with people’s goods. The onus now lies on Adeniyi Incorporated to prove that it is the trader that is dubious and not his company that failed on its duties.

Now, if we are to follow your argument, we would then argue, that even though the trader paid Adeniyi Incorporated to secure his goods, the security of such goods is still not on Adeniyi Incorporated but on the trader. Does that make sense? If yes, why was Adeniyi Incorporated paid in the first place?


Ignore the long epistle.

How is Amazon responsible for the technical issue of INEC website?

Did INEC claim they had an outage, unavailability, storage or access issue?

INEC said “its website” had glitches. What is Amazon responsible for in this scenario?

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Re: Why Amazon Should Sue INEC And Demand Billions Of Dollars In Damages. by Tulsaguy: 12:10am On Jun 20, 2023
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Re: Why Amazon Should Sue INEC And Demand Billions Of Dollars In Damages. by AntiWailer: 12:13am On Jun 20, 2023
SangoOlukosoOba:

“it’s website suffered “technical glitches”.


I am very certain that whoever composed this gibberish is not an IT expert.

What has AWS got to do with the INEC website? The fact that you hosting a website on AWS does not make AWS responsible for any glitch. You are still 100% liable for websites technical issues.

Oh! You want Amazon to sue INEC because their website had technical issues? 🤣🤣🤣

Lol no mind the chronic M0r0ns.

So if I deploy application dt the developer did rubbish and it was not accessible or useable it means Amazon’s AWS is down ?

The level of ignorance and ability to write plenty rubbish with confidence is pitiable.

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Re: Why Amazon Should Sue INEC And Demand Billions Of Dollars In Damages. by SangoOlukosoOba(m): 12:21am On Jun 20, 2023
AntiWailer:


Lol no mind the chronic M0r0ns.

So if I deploy application dt the developer did rubbish and it was not accessible or useable it means Amazon’s AWS is down ?

The level of ignorance and ability to write plenty rubbish with confidence is pitiable.

Sincerely!

I am still trying to figure out where Amazon comes in🤣🤣

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Re: Why Amazon Should Sue INEC And Demand Billions Of Dollars In Damages. by sreamsense: 12:39am On Jun 20, 2023
All these ignorant Elupees, they will just be making themselves happy for short time before they resume wailing. This is how they wrote long useless report defending ANAP/Bantupage election forecast that Obi would win. They later resumed writing long letter quoting constitution upside down on Tinubu must have 25% in Abuja. There is nothing special from what AWS engineer said.

At least wait for cross examination first from opposition lawyers and see how your AWS engineer will end up disgracing Obi/LP. She will answer technical question tirelessly when she is bombarded during cross examination. INEC IT engineer must have hinted INEC lawyer on type of technical questions and wheather she just got AWS certifications or she is working presently as AWS in the data center location. LP has no case to prove, they are just entertaining us

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Re: Why Amazon Should Sue INEC And Demand Billions Of Dollars In Damages. by Feintline: 1:25am On Jun 20, 2023
Just 7 witness from PO so far and yakubu and his crime against Nigeria has been busted.

The process through which people come into any position is far more fundamental than what they do thereafter- Peter obi

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Re: Why Amazon Should Sue INEC And Demand Billions Of Dollars In Damages. by DMerciful(m): 4:09am On Jun 20, 2023
What glitches did INEC suffer for only presidential ? INEC intentionally disabled uploads, period!
SangoOlukosoOba:



Ignore the long epistle.

How is Amazon responsible for the technical issue of INEC website?

Did INEC claim they had an outage, unavailability, storage or access issue?

INEC said “its website” had glitches. What is Amazon responsible for in this scenario?

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Re: Why Amazon Should Sue INEC And Demand Billions Of Dollars In Damages. by SangoOlukosoOba(m): 4:18am On Jun 20, 2023
DMerciful:
What glitches did INEC suffer for only presidential ? INEC intentionally disabled uploads, period!

It was not intentional. The website had issues.
Re: Why Amazon Should Sue INEC And Demand Billions Of Dollars In Damages. by DMerciful(m): 6:37am On Jun 20, 2023
Use your head, don't be gullible!
SangoOlukosoOba:


It was not intentional. The website had issues.
Re: Why Amazon Should Sue INEC And Demand Billions Of Dollars In Damages. by SOSinNigeria: 6:46am On Jun 20, 2023
Penguin2:
Today, an Amazon employee and a Cloud Engineer and Architect testified in court at the ongoing Presidential Petition Tribunal and brought with her, 33 reports from 6 regions of the country to refute INEC’s claim that the reason it failed to follow the Electoral Law that mandates it to upload results from polling units was because it’s website suffered “technical glitches”.

The implication of INEC’s claim, if it finally stands, is that Amazon has lied to millions of its customers worldwide on the reliability of its web hosting platform. Recall that Amazon prides that it’s AWS infrastructure is 99.9% efficient in all technological ramifications; from limitless storage capacity to security of data to seamless experience in using the platform. It is therefore imperative for Amazon to clear its name so as to reassure its customers that the platform is still reliable.

Failure to clear its name and incontrovertibly demonstrate in court that its platform is reliable and that INEC lied, the platform might face barrage of lawsuits from users who would cite the failure of AWS in Nigeria as ground to prove that Amazon had lied to them while marketing the platform to them that AWS was 99.9% reliable. Such lawsuits might lead to Amazon losing billions of dollars in damages claims. But it won’t stop there.

Not only would Amazon lose billions of in damages claims, it might also lose its existing customers to rival platforms and they would also likely lose potential clients who would rather deploy rival platforms than deploy AWS that has “failed in Nigeria”.

That is why I am calling on Amazon, that not only should it concentrate on incontrovertibly demonstrating that INEC liked through its teeth just so it could rig the election for Tinubu, they should also sue INEC, either in Nigeria or US, and demand billions of dollars in damages unless INEC is able to incontrovertibly prove in court that it did suffer “technical glitches” and that AWS truly failed, for the first time ever, in Nigeria.

I’ve said it before and I will reiterate it for the umpteenth time, that for the courts to uphold Tinubu’s ‘victory’, they would have to render a greater chunk of the 1999 constitution and the entire Electoral Act 2022 useless.

Like Aisha Yesufu said, “our business is not to trust the judiciary, our business is to overwhelm the judiciary with evidence.”


By the time Obi is done in court, the Judiciary would have no option than to do justice.

Rerun is the best that Tinubu can get out of the courts.

We watch and wait!

The criminal Manhood or whatever he is called will be having sleepless nights by now. It's either he ends it by himself just like Judas Iscariot did or be prepared to live the rest of his life in absolute misery.

The bastard never knew that Obi was well prepared.

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Re: Why Amazon Should Sue INEC And Demand Billions Of Dollars In Damages. by billante(m): 7:20am On Jun 20, 2023
SangoOlukosoOba:


It was not intentional. The website had issues.

It had issues because yakubu told you it had issues!

Where you there?

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Re: Why Amazon Should Sue INEC And Demand Billions Of Dollars In Damages. by inoki247: 7:25am On Jun 20, 2023
Lol this people are joker's so all the technical glitch we get from Banks all this Payment portal the fault we face during the Cash scarcity also are from the host and not the developer....


When they say you people are slow and have nothing in ur brain they're not lying...

I don't even think you know anything Abt Website ur own na just to open Page ...


Well you can sue INEC on behalf of Amazon so you can get what you're looking for...

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Re: Why Amazon Should Sue INEC And Demand Billions Of Dollars In Damages. by billante(m): 7:27am On Jun 20, 2023
AntiWailer:


Lol no mind the chronic M0r0ns.

So if I deploy application dt the developer did rubbish and it was not accessible or useable it means Amazon’s AWS is down ?

The level of ignorance and ability to write plenty rubbish with confidence is pitiable.

You Batists should stop defending everything, especially the ones you don't understand.

Every platform/website hosted anywhere has log files that you can check to know it's history/activities, if it is a password was changed or a dot was mistakenly deleted from a source code, you will see it on the log files.

IREV log files AWS has access to it.

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Re: Why Amazon Should Sue INEC And Demand Billions Of Dollars In Damages. by IVORY2009(m): 7:29am On Jun 20, 2023
StreetFight:
DO you mean the witness who works for Amazon, but also contested election as a Labourers Party candidate?
Do you have comprehension issues?
Re: Why Amazon Should Sue INEC And Demand Billions Of Dollars In Damages. by N3TRAL: 7:31am On Jun 20, 2023
Na so Atiku shout server for 2019. Even Hushpuppy scam am say he go hack server 😂

The greatest lie is self-deception.

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Re: Why Amazon Should Sue INEC And Demand Billions Of Dollars In Damages. by N3TRAL: 7:33am On Jun 20, 2023
billante:


You Batists should stop defending everything, especially the ones you don't understand.

Every platform/website hosted anywhere has log files that you can check to know it's history/activities, if it is a password was changed or a dot was mistakenly deleted from a source code, you will see it on the log files.

IREV log files AWS has access to it.

You can't tender evidence from a third party in court. Only INEC's data is proper evidence. Amazon is a third party.

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Re: Why Amazon Should Sue INEC And Demand Billions Of Dollars In Damages. by inoki247: 7:33am On Jun 20, 2023
billante:


You Batists should stop defending everything, especially the ones you don't understand.

Every platform/website hosted anywhere has log files that you can check to know it's history/activities, if it is a password was changed or a dot was mistakenly deleted from a source code, you will see it on the log files.

IREV log files AWS has access to it.

Lol if AWS have access to it they will still need a court order before they can give it to anyone.....



Just like you saying because Google az access to ur GMail they can just wake up and give anybody the transcript of your mail without approaching any court and just even give it to dere staff nd not even a Lawyer or a Law enforcement agency....

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Re: Why Amazon Should Sue INEC And Demand Billions Of Dollars In Damages. by engineerboat(m): 7:37am On Jun 20, 2023
SangoOlukosoOba:



Ignore the long epistle.

How is Amazon responsible for the technical issue of INEC website?

Did INEC claim they had an outage, unavailability, storage or access issue?

INEC said “its website” had glitches. What is Amazon responsible for in this scenario?
I'm sure You know that service provider are involve in linking the website with BVAS nationwide.

Go back and read INec message on what happened that day

Go back and check if at all you have the time to even check thr error report the website was giving that dsy how INEC made it look like it's service provider glitches as error .message
Re: Why Amazon Should Sue INEC And Demand Billions Of Dollars In Damages. by engineerboat(m): 7:39am On Jun 20, 2023
AntiWailer:


Lol no mind the chronic M0r0ns.

So if I deploy application dt the developer did rubbish and it was not accessible or useable it means Amazon’s AWS is down ?

The level of ignorance and ability to write plenty rubbish with confidence is pitiable.

I'm not sure you understand the error message INEC website was giving during the check on IREV that day you will not be saying this thrash, you will then understand why it involves AWS
Re: Why Amazon Should Sue INEC And Demand Billions Of Dollars In Damages. by engineerboat(m): 7:41am On Jun 20, 2023
N3TRAL:


You can't tender evidence from a third party in court. Only INEC's data is proper evidence. Amazon is a third party.

Say's what

WAec tendering certificate is what
NYSC tendering discharge certificate is what

Find another propaganda
Re: Why Amazon Should Sue INEC And Demand Billions Of Dollars In Damages. by N3TRAL: 7:49am On Jun 20, 2023
engineerboat:


Say's what

WAec tendering certificate is what
NYSC tendering discharge certificate is what

Find another propaganda

WAEC, NYSC etc are the organisations that issue the certification. They are legally vested with the responsibility of issuing certificates just like INEC collate results, announce them and issue certificates of return.

Neither WAEC nor NYSC are third parties. WAEC and NYSC have websites with data of millions stored in the servers of web hosting service providers.

They're are instances where WAEC or NYSC hold that they do not have the record of candidates in their custody. The candidate whose record is not found cannot approach the third party hosting service to prove that their record is in WAEC'S or NYSC'S servers.
According to the Evidence Act, only WAEC or NYSC or INEC records is valid evidence.

The evidence of the web hosting service provider here would only have nuisance value for social media accolades and nothing else.

Bringing Amazon to the case is of no value than bragging rights.
Re: Why Amazon Should Sue INEC And Demand Billions Of Dollars In Damages. by AntiWailer: 7:52am On Jun 20, 2023
billante:


You Batists should stop defending everything, especially the ones you don't understand.

Every platform/website hosted anywhere has log files that you can check to know it's history/activities, if it is a password was changed or a dot was mistakenly deleted from a source code, you will see it on the log files.

IREV log files AWS has access to it.

What rubbish log files are u talking about ?
Re: Why Amazon Should Sue INEC And Demand Billions Of Dollars In Damages. by meolaniyi(m): 8:08am On Jun 20, 2023
The funny thing is that this APC mandate stealers are busy defending illegality.
Re: Why Amazon Should Sue INEC And Demand Billions Of Dollars In Damages. by 2mch(m): 8:13am On Jun 20, 2023
Was there not proof of LP agents coming to polling booths to take picture of verification machine serial numbers? Or you forgot we saw the video. What about the videos of the LP people abroad assuring Peter Obi they can hack the system if he wants them to? Because APC dribble all una plans, una de cry.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q04kqMhNNFo

Never once did Obi reject their offer.
Re: Why Amazon Should Sue INEC And Demand Billions Of Dollars In Damages. by engineerboat(m): 8:18am On Jun 20, 2023
N3TRAL:


WAEC, NYSC etc are the organisations that issue the certification. They are legally vested with the responsibility of issuing certificates just like INEC collate results, announce them and issue certificates of return.

Neither WAEC nor NYSC are third parties. WAEC and NYSC have websites with data of millions stored in the servers of web hosting service providers.

They're are instances where WAEC or NYSC hold that they do not have the record of candidates in their custody. The candidate whose record is not found cannot approach the third party hosting service to prove that their record is in WAEC'S or NYSC'S servers.
According to the Evidence Act, only WAEC or NYSC or INEC records is valid evidence.

The evidence of the web hosting service provider here would only have nuisance value for social media accolades and nothing else.

Bringing Amazon to the case is of no value than bragging rights.

1. Amazon where subpoena

2. INEC website error report that day clearly implicates Amazon because the website refuse to open with error report at the blame door of Amazon

Hence Amazon need to clear the air on what happened.

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