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Re: Naira Now Undervalued After Float, Bank Of America Says by JasonScoolari: 1:35pm On Jun 30, 2023
hush15:


The part Nigerians don't understand is that they will have to fight tooth and nail to have their lives back cos if they believe that BAT, a master rigger and compromiser will give them a free and fair election ever again, they joking, be it from the north or south. The only person that will continue to be President if the courts don't do the right thing, is for an approved stooge that will further entrench Tinubu ever taxing policies and style of governance. InEC will be forever compromised. Peter Obi on the other hand will be able to survive it cos he has the capacity to, also extending that capacity to Nigerians but they refused.
Wish I could like this comment over and over again.

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Re: Naira Now Undervalued After Float, Bank Of America Says by GeneralDae: 1:37pm On Jun 30, 2023
Karnice600:


You are crying about fuel subsidy removal today. Wasn't that a benefit?



How? Benefit bawo?
Show me one average Nigerian that is benefiting from subsidy removal currently.
You don't even know where the said funds are going. No clarity. You just believe as a believer that the government will favor you and your family.
The question is:

You implied Nigerian Government has never given you any benefit whatsoever and in thesame breadth you are crying that they have taken out fuel subsidy.

Isn't that a contradiction?

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Re: Naira Now Undervalued After Float, Bank Of America Says by chidiokay: 1:39pm On Jun 30, 2023
thegooddieyoung:
Just to defend this government and feel you are slighting well meaning people.

It is obvious you do not understand the theory of ripple effect at all.

Manufacturers Association of Nigeria (MAN) are already planning to increase the cost of products and services due to hike in energy tariff.

Expect to buy your darling bread at a cut-throat price.

People are complaining because of the ill-timing. Government is expected to provide some succor to the common man.



Since when did Manfacturer start depending on electricity ...
The reason why most Manufacturing companies left Nigeria is becos of irregular power supply, is that excuse no longer tenable

whatever MAN is planting as nothing to do we the hike per say BUT who Nigerians are, we are our own problem, IF things had gone the other way, Fuel price dropped, electricity price dropped .. we MAN ever come out to declare decrease in prices.

It easy and convenient for so called elites to be shouting palliatives, But what most fail to realize is that there is no palliatives can give at the moment is can bring a cushion effect, lets be realistics.
The only cushion effect that can happen now now as most elites are anticipating is either MAGIC or bring back subsidy

But for the reasonable class that are not allergic to the truth, there is no smooth road out of subsidy regime, what can bring desired relieve is for govt to show sincerity and profound policies that will optimize productivity in Nigeria.

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Re: Naira Now Undervalued After Float, Bank Of America Says by InyinyaAgbaOku(m): 1:39pm On Jun 30, 2023
DeLaRue:


It's laughable.

Every hour, Nigerians are monitoring Naira/USD rate even when they don't do any international trade.

Tailors, office workers, landlords, teachers, market men and women etc are discussing dollar rate every day.

Every time the value goes up by any amount, people's blood pressure rises enmass.

My sister has no business with the dollar, but anytime she calls, she will ask if I know that dollar is so and so

The slavish obsession with the dollar is contributing to making more people wanting to buy it, therefore destroying the naira.

People are just 'doing themselves '.

We are not Americans. Dollar is not our currency.

Why are we obsessed with this currency.

I don't think there's any country in the world where whole swathes of the population have deified another country 's currency.

Mumu.

Is the country economically better on its own , barring the dollar news you keep talking about ?

You suddenly know better than every other country that gets excited about dollar news, it's not a Nigerian thing abeg .

With lots of things imported , is it not clear that the dollar value will affect the prices of goods. Same applies when you want to export things.
Have you paid school fees for anyone abroad before ?
Re: Naira Now Undervalued After Float, Bank Of America Says by WATCHOVER(m): 1:39pm On Jun 30, 2023
DeLaRue:


The government should continue to spend more than $5 billion a year to subsid⁶ise an artificial naira value of N460?

And another $9 billion to subsidise petrol.

And also subsidise many other sectors of the economy.

Mostly with borrowed money.

Are you a baby that government must subsidise every aspect of your life.

Are people in Togo, Republic of Benin, Ghana etc not surviving without ruinous subsidies.

You want the country to go bankrupt like Sri Lanka, Argentina, Lebanon etc

If the country goes bankrupt, naira will go to about N2,500 (or more) to a dollar. I guess your subsidy eye will clear then.

Anyway, the naira is not on a complete free float. The current market price is closer to its real value that N460 was. Government will support the naira if it falls too hard.

It will eventually find its natural level, and that level is likely to be under N700 for some time.
For your information Most Countries even in Europe embrace subsidy, it just that Nigeria leaders are slaves.
From the president down to the least polician are irresponsible

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Re: Naira Now Undervalued After Float, Bank Of America Says by Dimehook: 1:40pm On Jun 30, 2023
Parachoco:
Naira will be between #550-#650 before the end year
Pele oo, economy analyst.
Re: Naira Now Undervalued After Float, Bank Of America Says by Growing(m): 1:42pm On Jun 30, 2023
When it comes to naira devaluation, I don't trust US.
Re: Naira Now Undervalued After Float, Bank Of America Says by IgweBUIKE1(m): 1:43pm On Jun 30, 2023
Pls tinubu will fix the west, this what you get when you tribalise everything
Re: Naira Now Undervalued After Float, Bank Of America Says by InyinyaAgbaOku(m): 1:44pm On Jun 30, 2023
DeLaRue:


The government should continue to spend more than $5 billion a year to subsid⁶ise an artificial naira value of N460?

And another $9 billion to subsidise petrol.

And also subsidise many other sectors of the economy.

Mostly with borrowed money.

Are you a baby that government must subsidise every aspect of your life.

Are people in Togo, Republic of Benin, Ghana etc not surviving without ruinous subsidies.

You want the country to go bankrupt like Sri Lanka, Argentina, Lebanon etc

If the country goes bankrupt, naira will go to about N2,500 (or more) to a dollar. I guess your subsidy eye will clear then.

Anyway, the naira is not on a complete free float. The current market price is closer to its real value that N460 was. Government will support the naira if it falls too hard.

It will eventually find its natural level, and that level is likely to be under N700 for some time.

So,what does the government want to do with all the money if they aren't going to be shouldering these responsibilities.
You removed subsidy and the costs are transferred to the masses.
You don't want to fund professional bodies and the masses are taxed by these bodies for revenue , you don't wan to subsidize education anymore , and the people pay. Pay from where ?
Are European nations that do free quality education and other things thinking their people are babies ?
What's with defending hardship?
Did Tinubu give you a timeline of when the suffering will end and where he will put the money in if not that he and cronies will embezzle them ?
They have refused to increase their own salaries while the masses have become poorer from paying for everything. What's is his government going to be doing for the people? Are Tinubu and family suffering too ?
Re: Naira Now Undervalued After Float, Bank Of America Says by FireUpNow(m): 1:46pm On Jun 30, 2023
Okay
Re: Naira Now Undervalued After Float, Bank Of America Says by Berankis: 1:46pm On Jun 30, 2023
Bidema:
Guys please when last did your country monitored American economy.

That's what you get when you depend on people for your daily bread
The same Bank of America that was alleged to have embezzled customers' funds about 2-3months ago is now evaluating the naira. Lol grin
Re: Naira Now Undervalued After Float, Bank Of America Says by viodemus: 1:56pm On Jun 30, 2023
What does unwise Bola know? If he is not stealibu--ing, he is sillybu-ing; or trying to divide and conquer through tribal and religious beliefs. He is a hardened naive. Day 1, month 1, na hellelle. A very advanced fraudulent tribalist islamics criminal.
Re: Naira Now Undervalued After Float, Bank Of America Says by thegooddieyoung: 2:10pm On Jun 30, 2023
Broh please read your comment again, it seems a bit incoherent to me.

About your introductory remark, MAN is a body make up of even tooth pick producers. We need power to produce anything. Most of them run PMS generators whose pump price has increased. They are also connected to the power grid whose monthly tariff will now be increased from tomorrow.

It will not be easy for the common man at all



chidiokay:



Since when did Manfacturer start depending on electricity ...
The reason why most Manufacturing companies left Nigeria is becos of irregular power supply, is that excuse no longer tenable

whatever MAN is planting as nothing to do we the hike per say BUT who Nigerians are, we are our own problem, IF things had gone the other way, Fuel price dropped, electricity price dropped .. we MAN ever come out to declare decrease in prices.

It easy and convenient for so called elites to be shouting palliatives, But what most fail to realize is that there is no palliatives can give at the moment is can bring a cushion effect, lets be realistics.
The only cushion effect that can happen now now as most elites are anticipating is either MAGIC or bring back subsidy

But for the reasonable class that are not allergic to the truth, there is no smooth road out of subsidy regime, what can bring desired relieve is for govt to show sincerity and profound policies that will optimize productivity in Nigeria.

Re: Naira Now Undervalued After Float, Bank Of America Says by clydecarson(m): 2:12pm On Jun 30, 2023
georgeakins:


Jagaban is the greatest politician this country has produced since independence.

You must worship and adore him.


You mean greatest thief....
Re: Naira Now Undervalued After Float, Bank Of America Says by kayusely70(m): 2:13pm On Jun 30, 2023
viodemus:
What does unwise Bola know? If he is not stealibu--ing, he is sillybu-ing; or trying to divide and conquer through tribal and religious beliefs. He is a hardened naive. Day 1, month 1, na hellelle. A very advanced fraudulent tribalist islamics criminal.
When will you people stop your unending WAILINGS!!!!!!!
Re: Naira Now Undervalued After Float, Bank Of America Says by Dybala11(m): 2:28pm On Jun 30, 2023
JasonScoolari:
This is just the beginning.... First thing tomorrow, hike in Electricity Tariff will hit everyone hard.

Sad thing is that one Kwara Polytechnic Nd2 dropout, living in the suburbs of Ilorin as a part-time agbero, with a heavily padded Itel A2 as his major property and traits of mental disorder will come here to abuse Obidients and everyone who speaks against Tinubu and his tax killing government..
You sef don too sabi yab person o. Abi what is all this adjectives that you're using to describe the miscreants na. 😂😂😂😂😂
Re: Naira Now Undervalued After Float, Bank Of America Says by viodemus: 2:30pm On Jun 30, 2023
kayusely70:
When will you people stop your unending WAILINGS!!!!!!!



f off.
Re: Naira Now Undervalued After Float, Bank Of America Says by Dybala11(m): 2:39pm On Jun 30, 2023
DeLaRue:


It's laughable.

Every hour, Nigerians are monitoring Naira/USD rate even when they don't do any international trade.

Tailors, office workers, landlords, teachers, market men and women etc are discussing dollar rate every day.

Every time the value goes up by any amount, people's blood pressure rises enmass.

My sister has no business with the dollar, but anytime she calls, she will ask if I know that dollar is so and so

The slavish obsession with the dollar is contributing to making more people wanting to buy it, therefore destroying the naira.

People are just 'doing themselves '.

We are not Americans. Dollar is not our currency.

Why are we obsessed with this currency.

I don't think there's any country in the world where whole swathes of the population have deified another country 's currency.
Do you want to know this is so??
Because we import almost all of not all goods and commodities that we use in this country. Do you think those commodities are bought on the international market with naira??
Since the commodities are bought with dollars, automatically those that bought it have to sell their goods taking into consideration the exchange rate at which they bought their goods. Forex is scarce jor. We can stabilise the Naira better by improving on our exports if at all we have any presently apart from crude oil.

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Re: Naira Now Undervalued After Float, Bank Of America Says by prophetfire: 4:09pm On Jun 30, 2023
Parachoco:
Naira will be between #550-#650 before the end year
opono from dream land economics.
Re: Naira Now Undervalued After Float, Bank Of America Says by confirmerg(m): 4:45pm On Jun 30, 2023
[quote author=Chloraseptic post=124118510]Somebody said he would continue Buhari legacy and zombies want him to be better than Buhari. Is that not stupidity..

The man is busy dishing out new policies just after assumption of office in a bid to come off as proactive president without properly thinking it through..

It's kinda like a coach who uses all his subs in first half without without thinking about how the game might turn out in the second half. [/Tinubu never play up to 15mins, he Don dey remove players. Let see how secondhalf will be.]
Re: Naira Now Undervalued After Float, Bank Of America Says by confirmerg(m): 4:47pm On Jun 30, 2023
[quote author=confirmerg post=124128977][/quote] lol
Re: Naira Now Undervalued After Float, Bank Of America Says by confirmerg(m): 4:49pm On Jun 30, 2023
prophetfire:
opono from dream land economics.
don't be too hard on him bro
Re: Naira Now Undervalued After Float, Bank Of America Says by chidiokay: 5:11pm On Jun 30, 2023
thegooddieyoung:
Broh please read your comment again, it seems a bit incoherent to me.

About your introductory remark, MAN is a body make up of even tooth pick producers. We need power to produce anything. Most of them run PMS generators whose pump price has increased. They are also connected to the power grid whose monthly tariff will now be increased from tomorrow.
It will not be easy for the common man at all



I know what i am saying, Bro you have a point manufacturers need power but why wrap it up with lies .. Most manufacturers use plants that run on diesel.
At the time subsidy was removed on diesel most manufacturers, even hotels back then hiked the prices of there services and product

In Nigeria manufacturer will always cease every oppprtunity they get to hike price, i asked a simple question supposedly the price of fuel and electricity were reduced will MAN come out to declare reduction in prices of the product ??
Nig Manufacturers are bed buds .. what infuriates me the most is for every increase in the price of any product what consumers get is lower quantity or quality 😡

since the days of our fathers it as never being Easy for a common man, we just have to find a way to augment our income legit and make sure we hold the govt accountable
Re: Naira Now Undervalued After Float, Bank Of America Says by Brownshoe: 6:32pm On Jun 30, 2023
The solution is this make them each family 10000dolapo ,secondly make them do Netflix sub of a year each guy age 18-upward,




Them make raise tax by 50% to generate equilibrium expenditure economic benefit value taxation fiscal yearly earnings! Abi se normal so


What have done, I no sha sabi economics mtcheeeew.

Re: Naira Now Undervalued After Float, Bank Of America Says by shepherd316: 6:34pm On Jun 30, 2023
Bidema:
Guys please when last did your country monitored American economy.
You felt offended by his observation because you follow APC like zombie, God will heal you grin

That's what you get when you depend on people for your daily bread
Re: Naira Now Undervalued After Float, Bank Of America Says by Karnice600: 6:38pm On Jun 30, 2023
GeneralDae:

The question is:

You implied Nigerian Government has never given you any benefit whatsoever and in thesame breadth you are crying that they have taken out fuel subsidy.

Isn't that a contradiction?


Now understand what I mean. Don't twist it to suit your sentiments.
Subsidies were like bandages on a broken arm; an arm marred by ridiculous policies and economics.
Now even if the bandage on a broken arm isn't the desired condition for anyone in such bad shape, you can't just take off those bandages when the arm is yet to be healed. That bandage wasn't something to boast about, yet it wasn't something to do without either at such moment. It was remedying a critical situation. Yes it was more of a remedy than a benefit. Removing it hastily rather than strategically is an insensitive move. Its gross incompetence.
Re: Naira Now Undervalued After Float, Bank Of America Says by shepherd316: 6:39pm On Jun 30, 2023
jumper524:
If unethical caution is not taken, these Americans would still devalue our naira and blame it on some economic factor.
Haba bros, speak as a free thinker, speak as an ambassador of humanity, don't speak as an headless zombie
Re: Naira Now Undervalued After Float, Bank Of America Says by XAUBulls: 6:44pm On Jun 30, 2023
dre11:
The Nigerian naira has moved from being overvalued to undervalued following the government’s long-awaited foreign exchange reform, analysts at US-based Bank of America said in…




https://dailytrust.com/naira-now-undervalued-after-float-bank-of-america-says/
Re: Naira Now Undervalued After Float, Bank Of America Says by GeneralDae: 7:45pm On Jun 30, 2023
Karnice600:



Now understand what I mean. Don't twist it to suit your sentiments.
Subsidies were like bandages on a broken arm; an arm marred by ridiculous policies and economics.
Now even if the bandage on a broken arm isn't the desired condition for anyone in such bad shape, you can't just take off those bandages when the arm is yet to be healed. That bandage wasn't something to boast about, yet it wasn't something to do without either at such moment. It was remedying a critical situation. Yes it was more of a remedy than a benefit. Removing it hastily rather than strategically is an insensitive move. Its gross incompetence.

What of education subsidy? Is that also a bandage or at least can you admit Government has benefited you however small?
Re: Naira Now Undervalued After Float, Bank Of America Says by Crvrider: 7:48pm On Jun 30, 2023
jmoore:
The analysts are obviously myopic. Nigeria is an importing country, therefore expecting a dollar to be 650 naira next year won't happen. Tens of billions of dollars from crude oil revenue is not enough to meet the demand of forex.

Don't be ignorant. Read about Kuwait. Their only and major export is oil and they have the world's best performing currency.
Re: Naira Now Undervalued After Float, Bank Of America Says by Crvrider: 7:50pm On Jun 30, 2023
JasonScoolari:
Wetin bring Peter Obi come this matter?

Is he the reason why the Naira is undervalued?

Is he the reason fuel is now N520 per litre and will be N700 per litre in the North?

Is he the reason why 5 seed of tomatoes is now N350?

Is he the reason you entered trailer from Kaduna to Ilorin to celebrate Salah?

Is he the reason there will be increase in electricity tariff as from tomorrow?

Is he the reason students at Federal Universities will start paying double of their fees?

Simply put, you would have just asked him if Peter Obi is his president?
Re: Naira Now Undervalued After Float, Bank Of America Says by jmoore(m): 8:11pm On Jun 30, 2023
Crvrider:


Don't be ignorant. Read about Kuwait. Their only and major export is oil and they have the world's best performing currency.
_

People like you go open mouth waa!!

Kuwait has a population of 4.5 million people. They export more crude oil than Nigeria.


Common sense should tell you that Kuwait has surplus of forex when compared to Nigeria when you factor in that Nigeria has a population of 180 million.

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